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 No.4419

I really just want to up and leave. Drive across the country and live in my vehicle. Go to all kinds of different places and meet all kinds of different people. I am so tired of my non-adventurous life. I live in a small city. I'm the youngest child, and both of my brothers have moved out and started families, while I'm 19 years old and living with my parents working a fast food job.

Something about my stable life is boring. Like I said earlier, there is no adventure. I do the same routine every day and I feel like it's been carved out for me. I love my family. I love my nieces and nephews and my parents and brothers, and I like to spend time with them. I can't just leave.

I would essentially live out of an SUV. Enough room to sleep in and store things that I need. I'd save up enough money that would last me a while, and if I ran out then I would work odd jobs.

Why do I lack the balls to do something like this?

 No.4420

This is a pretty common feeling for people around your age.

Hundreds of years ago, the world was largely undiscovered. People like you could go out and colonize the frontier or discover the new world. There was still something to find and that adventurous spirit could take hold.

Now, things are different. We've discovered, mapped, and photographed every centimeter of the planet.

>Why do I lack the balls to do something like this?

You've lived your entire life comfy and secure. The part of your brain that kept you safe 100,000 years ago knows that you will successfully not die if you just keep doing what you're doing.


 No.4421

>>4420

Even though we've discovered and mapped everything, I haven't. I haven't seen over 90% of America, let alone the entire world. That's why I want that adventurous life. I don't want to work until I'm told I can retire. I want to live my life doing fun shit.


 No.4422

>>4419

You should do something like what you described, but not as stupid. Living out of a car constantly on the road won't be sustainable long, and you will only end up in a worse condition than you did before.

In the opinion of some complete stranger on the internet that just so happens to frequent the same board you do, I believe you should find a way to explore life without compromising your own.

In my own experience with the scenario, I started studying a language and meeting people from other countries, investing myself in my community, mapping out a place nearby or somewhere in the country that has stuff happening. Be at the center of your own universe, so to speak.

You don't have to hike across the country and flash your hypothetical breasts at passing cars to get anywhere, you just go looking for opportunities nearby, and if there are none; do your best to create some, or relocate yourself to a place where you see opportunities.

All I'm saying is, don't sell yourself short. Set yourself up for a more enjoyable situation either tomorrow or the immediacy of a year. You don't have to slave drive yourself, and maybe you can make a career of doing something you enjoy.

Take a while to think about it. Ask your friends, or someone who knows you well. Ask them for their opinion. The answer to the most damning question is always near by.


 No.4423

>>4419

You might like the /trv/ board on halfchan.

There are a lot of guys like you there, some who have successfully realized their dream to live on the road.

I've traveled for months on my own, but I also had passive income so I didn't have to hustle for odd jobs . You might want to learn coding or do freelance translation work to sustain yourself abroad.


 No.4426

>>4419

I took a labour-position job over the summer out of the city, where I work 12 hours a day (30 min break) outdoors shipping trees. I really enjoy it, and escaping the gloom of the city, the problems caused by the internet, the media, and everyone else is just spectacular. Mind you, going "off the grid" is pretty tough to do, only because it's something you need to commit to. Once you're ready to commit, you're ready to go.

My advice is collect a bit of travel cash, and then move around. It's a good experience, no matter your initial fears.


 No.4429

>>4419

Take me with you


 No.4430

>>4429

Throughout my life since childhood, my dream has been to be approached by an experienced and eccentric captain and offered to sail around the world as a nomad, along with a crew of equally interesting sailors and deckhands of all different backgrounds. And we go on adventures, and we get into trouble, and even if I die at least I would have died living the dream.


 No.4446

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>>4419

I've had that feeling since grade school. The desire to go out and have adventures and see the world and meet new people.

For a while, my plan was to retrofit a schoolbus and live a wild hippy lifestyle on the road, but as it turns out, that's not exactly easy, cheap, or sustainable, unless you already own property to park on and have lods e mone to support that lifestyle. It's not the kind of thing that a poor, listless young person can do without a lot of help and luck.

Even still, when imagining this whimsical road life, I'd come up with these fantasies about going to places and helping out people and learning new things.. But when I took a step back and thought about my own life, I realized that people are very isolated and very guarded. We do not let new people into our lives and we are seldom given the chance to meet new people who will become lifelong friends.

I do a weekly game night with friends and our group has dwindled so badly that it's almost impossible to keep doing, now that everyone has full-time jobs and has moved away. Some of my friends even have kids now. It's surreal. We keep saying that we need to make new friends, but all of us, despite being in our late 20s, have no idea where to even start, let alone when we'd make time to do so.

I considered going full innawoods hermit and somehow setting up a green energy grid so I could just play vidya and live a life of peaceful contemplation, but even being the socially retarded loner that I am most of the time, even I crave companionship.

best solution I can figure out is to either buy wilderness property and build a commune, or find an abandoned or foreclosed property, like a warehouse or something, and turn that into a commune so I can have a place to invite all my friends to live.. But I don't know if even that would work out for a variety of reasons.. Few people are suited for a life like that, and most want to do the whole murrican dream thing; get married, start a family, settle down in a little house of their own.. That doesn't exactly work when you're living in a ramshackle collective home built in the woods or in some restored property.


 No.4464

>>4446 I, too, have dreamt of this lifestyle. For years I've wondered how possible it would be to to start a spiritual philosophy, Zen vidya-ism, and build a monastery in the wooded hills of California. We'd grow our own crops, practice kung-fu, earn money by performing computer odd jobs in the city, and study/play vidya as if they were sacred texts. We'd have rankings with high monks and abotts, and be totally devoted to the gamefication of mind body and soul.

The Four Noble Truths:

1) The purpose of life is to master living.

2) There is no life that is not game theory.

3) The intangible essence of game theory (mathematics) is as old as the universe. Vidya is this essence manifest.

4) To understand vidya, is to understand all the ten thousand things.

Join me young monks, let us build the Zen temple of Shoyu Win


 No.4465

Start small with weekend trips. Myself, I love exploring the outdoors, so whenever I get the chance I head out of the city on Friday, make camp wherever I feel like it, then spend the rest of the weekend exploring the surrounding woods. I know it’s not a roadtrip, but after living in the same place for my entire life, I still haven’t explored all the land within a 3 hour drive of my house.

This summer I’m hoping to do a few more dignified road trip. It helps to have a flexible job, I think, since I don’t want to just drop everything and pull a McCandless. That’s why I’m working for my cousin on his farm this summer. It’s poppycock pay, but the perk is that it’s flexible…certain times of the year when work is light, I can take a whole week off at a time to explore a new state and have a cozy farmhouse to come back to when I’m done. Unless you’ve also got a farmer cousin, I would recommend volunteering through WWOOF. Basically, you volunteer on an organic farm (from anywhere from a day to a few months), and the farmers give you food and place to stay while you’re there. Between jobs, you explore the country on money you have saved. That was what I was planning on doing until I reconnected with my cousin. I also remember reading about some kind of couch-surfing community where people just let travelers stay at their homes for free. That could work also.


 No.4467

>>4464

I've wondered if there were philosophical insights that we could gleam from vidya. /v/ wasn't too keen on the idea, but all the same, there's wisdom to be found from acknowledging the underlying and unintentional messages hidden in games.

Monster Hunter, for example, teaches you to come to terms with the desire for instant gratification. All things you want will take time to earn and every step made to reach a goal may not always take you closer and that success may find you when you least expect it. Also, you may find during your grind that what you want and what you actually need at not the same thing, which may not be as rewarding as a new possession, but it's a valuable revelation that will hopefully allow you to choose your goals more effectively next time..

But this may all be discussion for a different thread.


 No.4577

>>4420

>The part of your brain that kept you safe 100,000 years ago knows that you will successfully not die if you just keep doing what you're doing.

I would argue that, on the contrary, people instinctually want to wander. Look at the epic of Gilgamesh. It's humanity's first work of literature, and it's essentially a road-trip story. It was written by the first sedentary civilization in history, and yet already they were wanting to be nomadic again. 100,000 years ago all people were nomadic or seminomadic…we've only been living this way for 2,000 years or so, so chances are the part of our brain that compelled us to wander hasn't been lost yet.

>>4465

This is going off topic a bit, but I agree. Every game has tricks that, once learned, make you a master of that game. A good gamer is someone who is good at finding these tricks. Real life activities have similar tricks…mountain biking for example, is an extremely technical sport. Sure, to be a good mountain biker you have to be physically fit, but most of it's technique. It's a game. Everything is a game.

>>4465

>It’s poppycock pay, but the perk is that it’s flexible

Did they put in a wordfilter that changes "poppycock" to "poppycock"? If so, that's classy as fuck.

Testing this poppycock.

bullpoppycock

poppycock-hit-the-fan

poppycockhead


 No.4676

You sound like me OP. I'm 21 and would love to do the same thing. I moved cross country a year ago and am working odd jobs to sustain myself, just traveling the states. I moved about a lot when I was 16 also. Here's the thing, it's fucking awesome for the first month, then reality sets in. You get jealous of the others around you who have these normal, "boring" lives. You don't know how great it is to come home to a family, until you have none.

It's been manageable, but even then it becomes monotonous. The thing that kills me most is the immense feeling of loneliness. God damn do you get lonely. You reach a point where you'd do anything for a friend to talk to. It's not easy, and I guess it comes down to what you value. Before you make the choice to do it, be sure it's REALLY what you want. There's no going back after a certain point.

The thing is, I could never live with myself if I didn't live my life in a way that was true to me. I have to do it, it's a desire as strong as hunger.


 No.4761

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For me, the internet has been the most interesting 'adventure' I've ever been on, and it just keeps getting more and more interesting.

You want to talk to new people? You can do that online. Nowhere will you find more people ready and willing to talk, from all parts of the globe.

New things to see or do? There's a zillion different things to see and activities to do on the net.

Is it that you want to be a different person? You can do that too, just start today in small ways. Same place, new routines, new behaviors, new perspectives.

Living out of a van isn't unheard of, actually I'm doing it now. Its not that hard, if you're really willing and into it. The psychological aspects are probably the most important to overcome for people; the practicalities are relatively simple, especially in this day with free wifi cafes, food everywhere, GPS, phones/computers, etc.

Start by living out of your van within your home town. If you can manage that for say a month, then you can move to the next town over, and so on, expanding as you feel comfortable.

Its not expensive either. $5,000 gets you started easily, which you could save up quickly enough.

Someone posted a Kino no Tabi pic. That's a good and relevant anime, I recommend it.

>>4467

I learned a lot from playing competitive video games. Teamwork, social skills, clans, organizing and community things, strategy/tactics, fun, bonding, liars/cheaters, poppycock-talkers, flamers, self-discipline, the value of practice, calmness/tranquility, creativity in modding and such. Lots of things. I even made a little singing, art and videography because of that game.

I feel like a lot of games have expanded my imagination in general. The content is so diverse and creative.


 No.4763

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OP I turned 20 a few months ago. Since graduating highschool, I've not stayed at my home in the US for more than a month at a time. I've lived in two major cities in the US and cities in China/Taiwan, east europe and currently spending the summer in one in the arabic gulf. After highschool, I spent a year in China/Taiwan, then came to US to do a year of community college in one major city then got accepted into a uni at another major city; I'm currently spending the summer on a job in a city in the gulf region. Spring semester I'll do study abroad in EU. Paid for myself during the gap year day-trading stocks then altcoins and btc gambling, my parents paid for my rent/schooling when I came back to US. I wouldn't goto school at all otherwise; I'm not from a poor background, but my parents only intend to support me through uni. And I wouldn't travel poor, it's pathetic.

It's a very lonely life. I don't connect with anyone but the same few friends I grew up with since I was a kid. My world experience and taste and interests are radically different from anyone I meet. At school now, I have to keep an artificial front just to not alienate people. Make a constant effort to seem normal. I don't make friends on the internet either, but sometimes I'm lucky to run into someone where it really clicks - most often because we're on the same level taste/knowledge-wise within an interest.

Travelling, I focused primarily on underground cultures, seeking out artist communities and their parties. Going to basement raves, drinking, taking drugs was easy and the most fun socially and I developed friend circles but I never connected with anyone super closely. I'd like to add, you run into a lot of "travel enthusiasts," middle aged english teachers chasing yellow in some poppycock overground club, dumb college dropouts with half formed internet-sourced marxism - they're always equally pathetic. I would suggest against travelling poor if you can help it. It wasn't just the language barrier because there would always be expats and now I'm back in the US, in the midwest when I grew up in the west coast, I feel just as outsider.

Lately I only chase foreign study abroad girls, because the inherent communication barrier and short term period makes it primarily a physical-emotional relationship, the intellectual area is where things always fall apart.

It's not the fact that I've lived around alone, though. I've lived around because I'm seeking a social and architectural situation that doesn't feel antagonistic. But the more I expand my experience, the more alienating I am to others, the more effort I have to put in to be liked… and I'm still not sure if this position of exteriority was something I chose myself or was pushed into.

So I don't know if my experience will be the same as yours. The other Mr(s). Anon mentioned missing his family. I don't know, I like my family but I don't miss them at all, maybe it's because they were always spread across US/EU/Asia, I'm used to keeping in touch over VOIP.

This summer is the worst, though. I didn't choose this city, I just got a good job here. I don't know a single person. It's ramadan and I can't eat or drink until nightfall. It's hot as hell in the day. It's got interesting residential architecture and good food and I'm getting paid way better than I should be in a job I really never should have been accepted for, though.

I think I'm really just looking for a certain special girl. Travelling is different in a relationship.


 No.4764

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>>4467

>Monster Hunter exploits controlled release gambling dynamics as an incentivizing mechanism

>this is 'teaching you to come to terms' with the mechanic

Please, it's just using it functionally. That's like saying a casino's roulette machine is a teaching tool for the same mechanism. No, it's an example of it in use.

Anyway, here's an essay I read sometime back covering the subject. As I recall, the reason I saved it was because it was a concise and comprehensive demonstration of standard educational methodologies applied to games:

http://ocw.metu.edu.tr/pluginfile.php/2379/mod_resource/content/0/ceit706/week7/Becker.PDF

Just search google scholar for "videogame pedogagy" if you're actually interested in reading more though I doubt there's a lot of material.

Partially related is Alexander Galloway's Allegories of Control (on Civilization)

http://cultureandcommunication.org/galloway/pdf/Galloway_AllegoriesOfControl.pdf

And Ian Bogost's Rhetoric of Videogames (on Animal Crossing)

http://nau.edu/CAL/Interdisciplinary-Writing-Program/_Forms/RhetoricVideoGames_Bogost/

Covering the subject of narrative (rather than pedagogy) expressed through in functional game design. I'd like to add my opinion that Bogost is a dope, because it's not ever said, Galloway's essay is much much better

Sage for offtopic


 No.4766

>>4763

Sorry for the triple post, but what I mean by travelling poor is having a significant portion of your time spent on day-to-day survival. Better to work steady on-and-off, travelling is better to not constantly moving but staying in place to place a couple months at a time. It takes some time to get a real sense of a town, even a small one in a country you're familiar with. And you're never going to meet anyone worthwhile being another unhealthy, dirty, mooching, half-educated white kid. There's a reason internet travel blogs overlap with internet PUA and a reason why they're forced to double down on empty neoliberal internalizations like "live your life" "see the world" "everyone has a story" etc.


 No.4770

>>4763

>the more I expand my experience, the more alienating I am to others, the more effort I have to put in to be liked

Why is this? Shouldn't it be the opposite? The more you experience, the more you have to relate on with others.


 No.4776

i've lived in five states in the past five years

i started moving around when i was sixteen and picked up jobs doing manual labor. i learned to frame, install roofs, pour concrete, lay flooring, even did some steel working and logging last year.

i have lived a nomadic lifestyle to the poing where i was diagnosed as nomadic type anti social personality disorder. (whatever)

fukn do it op, you will feel old at 21. and you will regret never having gone and seen what there is to see.

currently i am tied down to a full time job but thats only so i can save money to go to china to start a new adventure.

its worth it.


 No.4799

I've wanted to do that for years. I'd really love to. But one I don't have money and two I have friends.


 No.4800

>>4446

Ayyyy Kino no Tabi. Good stuff, man.


 No.4896

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>>4420

pic related


 No.4900

>>4799

>I don't have money and two I have friends.

take em with ya




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