No.402791
Subs soon
Are you Japanese enough to laugh?
No.402792
>>402791
>Shitty Joshiraku
I'll pass
No.402794
>Japanese enough to laugh
Thank god I dropped it the moment I saw it was "josei".
No.402796
>>402792
worse
>Joshiraku without cute girls
No.402814
Joshiraku with cute guys?
M-maybe a little...
No.402815
I'll be watching. I'm not sure if I have enough 大和魂 to truly appreciate it, but we've all gotta start somewhere.
No.402897
Sure enough, less than thirty minutes after I posted, it released.
Shishou being a massive cunt aside, it was great. I had absolutely no expectations, but this murder(?) mystery, Rakugo, and character drama is interesting. The Dekigokoro scene really did drag on long though. I thought he was going to bomb it, but things turned out well enough. That said, it was still painful to watch, with long stretches of nobody laughing, including myself.
Why was it 50 minutes though? Special premier sort of thing?
No.402905
>>402897
It was an ova mixed with the first episode. They cut the part where they show Yotaro's back tattoo.
No.403026
>>402897
I actually thought the Dekigokoro scene was the best part. The character drama stuff was alright, but felt really rushed and probably could have gotten its own episode.
No.403034
Holy shit well DEEN actually can animate. All those Shaft expats must have served them well.
But then this first ep is just eps 1 + 2 of the OVA put together. The real test of quality comes next week when the actual first made-for-TV-ep drops. We'll see if DEEN can keep it up.
Great first ep by the way, I, too, loved the Dekigokoro scene. The VA really knows what the hell he's doing.
Everything worked great in this one, for me. Also it's nice to see more anime starring and targeted at adults.
No.403072
The humor only goes up to sensible chuckle level to me, but the character investment put me on the edge of my seat during Dekigokoro. Well done.
The arc after that didn't grab me. The protagonist's conflict was supposed to be finding his own style(?) but the immediate crisis was falling asleep and snoring. While it can be justified by the protagonist being exhausted from last minute practice and going on air, previous character development hammered down his respect for his master and interest his watching Rakugo shows. Because of that, falling asleep felt contrived.
No.403192
>>402792
laws of inverse
that makes this good
No.403488
I just got to say I loved the heck out of that. My only qualm is the way the Konatsu over reacted which means they might shoe horn in some unnecessary drama. The way the story was structured and the pacing was excellent. The choreography for the performances was fantastic. If they can keep this same tempo throughout the series it should be interesting.
No.403572
Seems interesting enough. I really like the MC, he's the good kind of beta.
>>402897
He's a massive cunt, but he was completely justified in expelling him. If it's really so important to him he has no right sleeping, regardless of how tired he might be.
No.403587
>>403572
>If it's really so important to him he has no right sleeping, regardless of how tired he might be.
Niggy you are actually so dumb. He didn't expel him because he fell asleep, although he was obviously mad and embarrassed about it. He only used that as justification to do so.
What he was really buttmad about was that he was copying Sukerou's rakugo, and not his. Which makes him a huge cunt because he hasn't taught Yotaro a single thing.
No.403637
A bit too many dramatic situations and eye-to-eye looks to make fujoshi crowd go wild, but we'll see.
Here's what everyone should do while waiting: watch a dorama from 2005 called “Tiger & Dragon”. It's good enough to recommend to people that can't stand dorama, and have (a bit too) many similar elements.
It seems you have to download it old style, by fishing for raws and then getting subtitles to them. Raws from http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=688411&showfiles=1 are fresh enough, and files from http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=351244&showfiles=1 are widely available, including on Rutracker (which equals speed). Subtitles are easy to find, but make sure to look for additional TL notes and descriptions of rakugo stories, AFAIR, I read something like that.
Note that special episode is actually episode 00, and should be watched first.
No.403663
>>403637
YYeTs mkv raws look like shit. I am not sure how the encoder managed to make H.264 encode look worse than old DivX rip, but that poor soul must be granted prosthetic arms.
No.404044
so, wait
is this about some kind of japanese equivalent of stand up comedy?
or rather...i guess...kneel down comedy?
No.404048
>>403034
Deen can always keep it up.
Whether you want it or not
No.404057
>>404044
Go watch Joshiraku, you filthy plebeian.
No.404911
I thought the first episode was great. Excited to see more of it. I was having so much fun it took me over 35minutes to ask 'isn't this episode a little long?'
>>402897
> Dekigokoro scene really did drag on long though
I agree with some of the other anons, I thought this scene was great and I'm glad the story wasn't abridged. I especially appreciated the parts without laughs and music, you really got to appreciate Tomokazu's story telling.
>>403072
>but the character investment put me on the edge of my seat during Dekigokoro. Well done.
Agreed.
>falling asleep felt contrived
Maybe. But I felt that it played well into his overly enthusiastic, child-like character pretty well. It's also implied that he may have been drinking, (though whether the cup hitting the floor was real or simply illustrating shishou's story isn't revealed.) Upon further review, they show his hands earlier and they're empty and the lighting in the cup room and Yotarou's appear to be different.
>>403026
> The character drama stuff was alright, but felt really rushed and probably could have gotten its own episode.
This I agree with. It seemed that Konatsu and Yotarou would have needed more time to warm up to each other based on their first encounter, but they were close friends ten minutes in it looked like. I also felt that the aniki situation would have taken more than a short story and a few laughs to overcome.
No.404957
I thought the first episode was great. Excited to see more of it. I was having so much fun it took me over 35minutes to ask 'isn't this episode a little long?'
>>402897
> Dekigokoro scene really did drag on long though
I agree with some of the other anons, I thought this scene was great and I'm glad the story wasn't abridged. I especially appreciated the parts without laughs and music, you really got to appreciate Tomokazu's story telling.
>>403072
>but the character investment put me on the edge of my seat during Dekigokoro. Well done.
Agreed.
>falling asleep felt contrived
Maybe. But I felt that it played well into his overly enthusiastic, child-like character pretty well. It's also implied that he may have been drinking, (though whether the cup hitting the floor was real or simply illustrating shishou's story isn't revealed.) Upon further review, they show his hands earlier and they're empty and the lighting in the cup room and Yotarou's appear to be different.
>>403026
> The character drama stuff was alright, but felt really rushed and probably could have gotten its own episode.
This I agree with. It seemed that Konatsu and Yotarou would have needed more time to warm up to each other based on their first encounter, but they were close friends ten minutes in it looked like. I also felt that the aniki situation would have taken more than a short story and a few laughs to overcome.
No.404960
No.405080
Dekigokoro was very funny, but the rest of the rakugo stories were pretty boring. Is this how it usually goes?
No.405776
>>405080
Watch >>403637 and see. It has at least one different story for each episode (I won't spoil the idea further than that).
No.405929
I don't think even the Japanese are laughing at this point. I hope it gets better soon.
No.406009
I was so caught up in the rakugo that I was completely blindsided when the episode just suddenly ended after it. Great stuff.
Though Kikuhiko's first rakugo was painful to watch. Completely soulless. It's like he was simply doing a recital. For all that their master said Sukeroku was just mimicking things he'd seen, Kikuhiko is the one who came off as doing just that.
No.406101
>>405929
It's not side-splitting comedy but it's quite entertaining.
No.408013
>>405929
I'm hoping they aren't expecting laughs and it's purely about the drama. Because nobody's laughing at this.
No.410211
It's not like the backstory is bad, it's just, not that interesting.
No.410537
>>410211
Really? The old time feel is superb, and i like seeing the dynamic between Bon and Shin.
I wish more anime was set in the Meiji, Taishō and Shōwa periods..
No.411781
>>410211
I'm finding it pretty enjoyable.
It's lasting far longer than I expected though.
No.412322
>>410211
It's not interesting, but it's not supposed to be. It's background to develop character, which it's doing well. Besides, not interesting doesn't automatically equate to bad.
I just wish it was interposed with modern-age scenes a bit. To give it a bit of juxtaposition to really give off the impression of it being a story verbally told right then and there.
Then again, that'd extend how long it is, and it's already super long. It's a tight balancing act.
No.414613
This story was pretty good. It seems things are moving along now.
No.415214
Oh no. Kikuhiko is moving into dangerous territory now. Unless he remains the iron wall of indifference, he'll end up fucking up all the dynamics. Don't do it bro, she's a succubus.
I bet this will lead to Sukeroku's death, somehow.
No.416476
>>414613
I agree, this story was top tier. I was genuinely laughing.
>>415214
Don't worry anon. I'm pretty sure Kikuhiko is gay.
Like super gay.
No.416530
>>416476
It must very painful to squeeze your balls in your sleep. I've only rolled over one of them once with my thigh in sleep and it was not pretty.
No.417079
Are we even going to go back to the original guy? I really liked his character.
No.417085
Alright I must have lost track, who is this girl and are we supposed to know her from somewhere already?
No.417101
>>417085
I assume she'll become the mother of the present timeline girl.
>are we supposed to know her from somewhere already?
Not really, they met in Manchuria.
No.420721
Tons of yaoi bait in this episode. Fucking Sukeroku.
I hope Kikuhiko doesn't try and achieve success from performances like this. He seemed like he was getting off on everyone watching him. Even if it's his thing, it's no good.
Crossdressing is no good.
No.421949
>>420721
It's less yaoi bait and more the times they lived in being different.
No.421965
>>421949
God bless that sort of naivety.
No.423174
That was pretty good, I didn't get the punchline though.
No.423178
>>423174
>>423174
You must be this Japanese to laugh.
No.423618
>>423178
T-thanks for the reminder.
No.423848
I didn't get it either. I thought for sure the rakugo was going to continue onto another act, since it set up a revenge plot quite well.
Then it just suddenly ends. My eyes aren't slanted enough for this as well.
The geisha girl didn't seem to like Kikuhiko's newfound calling and realization. I hope things spiral out of control from this and begin to have some bearing on the plot somewhere down the line, but I fear that it'll only be some minor character drama in the upcoming episode.
No.425817
>>423178
I'm not sure modern japs are even that japanese.
The show will do terribly because no one understands it.
No.427685
The guy just keeps being a dick to the girl, no wonder she just goes for the other guy.
No.429091
It's been, what, 6 episodes of the past now? Sukeroku is no closer to dying than he was at the beginning, and there has been no drastic progression of the other plotpoints yet. I'm starting to wonder if he'll just suddenly drop dead of liver failure.
Thankfully, the episode preview gave some small hint of shaking things up with Miyokichi. I knew that whore would start all the bad shit that happens. I just hope we aren't in for a roller-coaster of plot twists, happenings, and climactic cliffhangers every episode, since we're nearing the end.
No.430690
>>429091
Things should escalate quickly in the next episodes.
No.430817
>>429091
>We'll never see the original MC again
No.431703
Both of them are about to be promoted to master, Kikuhiko is about to break it off with Miyokicchi, and they exchanged the promise to reform Rakugo.
It's finally happening boys. This episode was the calm before the storm. Expect some big things to happen next episode.
No.432467
>>431703
>Expect some big things to happen next episode
You could say that about every episode up until now.
No.434494
It all comes tumbling down.
Man, poor Sukeroku. He's 100% right and looking toward the future, but the faggots at the association are all old dinosaurs stuck on rigid tradition. They deserve the slow death that Rakugo will suffer for not even trying to change it up a bit. He still said a bit too much, but they were both drunk as HELL so Shishou should have forgiven it. Fucker went way too far in disowning him, expelling him from the association, and cockblocking him from performing at all. He assmad.
I knew Miyochi was going to ruin everything. Stupid whore refuses to work for herself, stole all that money, and is almost certainly going to get Sukeroku killed for it. Is the kid even his?
No.435939
>>434494
>It all comes tumbling down
Exactly what I was going to come here and post.
No.437172
>>434494
>Is the kid even his
I don't think it is.
This is shaping to be the best show of the season btw.
No.437499
>>437172
This has been a pretty shit season.
No.438186
We need more loli rakugo.
No.438210
>His name was Sukeroku
Man, I'm mad. Shishou was a piece of shit when he was younger, and he died a cowardly faggot. The first Sukeroku deserved better then to die in poverty because of that fucking nerd.
No.438276
This episode just made me more excited for the confrontation between Kiku and Sukeroku next episode. I'm glad the pace picked up in the last two episodes, though everything prior to that was useful for buildup. Does anyone know how many more episodes there are? If it's only 12 or 13 episodes the ending will seem abrupt, and we will have barely seen our original protagonist, whose name I can't even remember.
No.440521
>>438276
I assume he was just completely irrelevant and just an excuse to set up this story.
>>438210
He's been a shit the whole time.
No.441715
That duo was great, I wonder if shit will go down next episode or they'll just have everything crash on the last one.
No.441875
Fucking Sukeroku. He's always been a bum, but this is just too much. He even made Miyokicchi work for him.
I'm glad that Bon came back and whipped his ass into shape. I guess he just can't function correctly without his bro around.
No.441980
Can't wait for Kiku to reject that geisha whore again. I get the feeling that she did all of this whoring around just to bring him back, which will only make his inevitable rejection of her all the sweeter.