/a/ - Animu & Mango

I dropped it after the first half.

It was hit and miss.

>>434293

The jokes are really dry in the sub, and you have to enjoy more dry oriented humor. The dub has more wacky humor, with there being constant jokes, many of which miss. Space Dandy isn't for everyone, and I say this as a fan. You have to appreciate visual gags, overly eccentric animation, and subtle jokes as well.

I believe the Zombie one to be one of the best, the references, the overall meaning, and the humor is nearly perfect. Here's the problem with Dandy people will face, each episode has a different director, the art style frequently changes with this along with the general style of the episode including humor as well. It's like an animated Twilight Zone, episodes directed by a myriad of people but largely the same writer. They feel almost like stand alone works with the same tone, thus your appreciation will vary.

There's even episodes I disliked as a massive fan who could watch the show any time, there's three. The 2D dimensional universe, the one with the dog, and the one with Honey's brother. And none of these are bad either, they are just average and don't stand out.

I enjoyed it eventhough I dropped it. Only for that episode with nerd with the shapely booty.

Honestly the first half was kinda shitty, but the second half balanced comedy and drama perfectly to make a really good show.

Like others are saying though it's more of an enjoyment thing than actual comedy, I only found myself giggling to every other episode and even then I wasn't heartily laughing, though there's only a few anime that are actually funny, most Japs aren't really good at making humor tbh.

Either way though, the episodes that tried to make plots were the best ones like on Limbo, the racing one, and the fishing one, and the last episode.

Truth be told, it's more just me enjoying excellent animation than anything else, the precise detail on each scene is truly fantastic for this show

>>434610

>Japs aren't really good at making humor

Better than americans, where everything has to be a sex joke. That never ever gets old.

>>434615

someone hasn't seen Seitokai Yakuindomo. watch every single episode and OVA, you will have enough sex jokes for life

>>434615

That's all Japs joke about though... Check out It's Always Sunny, 30 Rock, south park, and futurama

I mean Japs really can't shake a stick at American comedy

>>434622

>south park, and futurama

i though you were making the argument for american comedy and not against

>>434623

When it comes to ingenuity and originality Americans are hiarious, South Park has pushed the fringes of societal norms for television to just make a joke, Futurama invented its own math formula for one episode.

No Jap humor has even the raw dedication like that

>>434624

Nigger what the fuck are you even on. Are you even a burger?

>>434627

Yes, and it's a fact. Face it Japs have no humor besides being weird, they're not very clever or original

>>434624

For a newer American comedy, I highly recommend Rick and Morty. Pretty good shit, and a wide range of humor.

>>434615

>Better than americans, where everything has to be a sex joke.

Stop using Dane Cook and Family Guy as your model for all American humor. It's [current year.

>>434645

Cromartie and DMC are legitimate comedy gold. I would say they're on the same level as something like Mr. Show.

Japs are pretty shit at stand-up, tho. At least that's what I hear. It's kind of strange when you look at most Japanese comedy and a lot of it seems to resemble how western comedy was a hundred years ago with lots of slapstick and duo acts. It can still be good at times, but the cultural gap is pretty big.

>>434634

I wonder if the rest of the world see shit like Adam Sandler and Wayan's Brothers movies and think "Damn, those Americans are really shit at comedy." To be fair, they wouldn't be entirely wrong. Did I miss something or did the ratio of good comedy produced in the US make a huge drop over the past ten to fifteen years?

>>434649

>Did I miss something or did the ratio of good comedy produced in the US make a huge drop over the past ten to fifteen years?

I'd probably agree to that. At the very least, the past five years has been fucking horrible because of "internet maymay culture" and many movies trying to cash in on that cheap dudebro humor.

>>434649

>Did I miss something or did the ratio of good comedy produced in the US make a huge drop over the past ten to fifteen years?

The newer generations are not funny and lack the backbone for good comedy.

>space dandy

>south park, futurama, rick and morty

Normalfag containment thread?

>>434263

No, the correct saying is "hit and miss". As in, sometimes it hits the mark and sometimes it misses.

>>434263

>>434754

Both are valid colloquialisms.

>>434652

>>434656

It's weird how the general quality of entertainment cycles between excellence and shit every ten / fifteen / twenty years. Aside from Rick and Morty and Gravity Falls, western animation is on the decline again. It had a big resurgence about seven or eight years ago, but now it's faltering. The same thing happened in the early 00s after years of really good cartoons.

Then again, nostalgia goggles play into how we see these things. There were a lot of bad shows that were completely overshadowed by the good ones we like to remember. MST3K and the early seasons of South Park were airing along with all the awful garbage Comedy Central was pumping out by the truckload.

>>434777

>It's weird how the general quality of entertainment cycles between excellence and shit every ten / fifteen / twenty years.

Yeah, a lot of people don't really seem to notice this. If you ever try to talk to Normalfags about anime or western animation they always try to deny that quality cycles every couple of years. It tends to be the reason why you see-

>Muh APEX OF ANIMATION

>Muh pre-9/11

>Muh 56k Modem

Literally every conversation with a normalfag ever.

Honestly, there were a lot of incredible works back then, but I think anime now has matured a lot more in terms of directorial and animation style. Also, Japan is getting hammered pretty badly by economical issues and I still can't really see things getting better for them anytime soon. It's also far less riskier to produce an "artsy" work when the economy is in your favor, as opposed to when it isn't.

Try explaining that simple line of logic to any normalfag and they will be incapable of understanding it.

Even if they have a degree in fucking economics.

>>434662

Hey man, Rick and Morty is pretty great, but the new seasons of Futurama were absolutely terrible with the exception of a few good episodes. I honestly never knew what a bad Futurama episode looked like until the new seasons came around and it was incredibly painful to watch. For some reason everybody always brings up that one episodes which had an actual mathematical theorem and tends to ignore that aside from that, the episodes itself was very lackluster.

The first two episodes were really fucking boring and not entertaining in the slightest sense.

There are much better comedy anime, and there are much better adventure/drama anime, so why should I watch this?

>>434645

Everyone on imageboards knows that the cromartie dub was better than the sub.

>>434836

I sort of agree, and don't agree with this.

I mean just looking at your picture, yes the scenery is beautiful, but it's completely jarring seeing some fucking terrible drawing of a person with thick black outlines, that looks like it was drawn by an elementary school kid, in it.

>>434777

>MST3K and the early seasons of South Park were airing along with all the awful garbage Comedy Central was pumping out by the truckload.

South Park and the garbage CC aired in the mid 90s is what pushed MST off CC in the first place. In early to mid 90s MST was the only piece of original programming CC had, and they didn't even own the rights to it. Once they built a line-up of their own programming, they promptly cancelled them.

>>434833

Do it for her.

The first two, maybe three episodes really sucked. I stopped watching at episode 2 or so the first time I watched. I gave it another try and fucking loved it after getting past the start

dandy is best.

the episode with the tear soup was a good ending.

>>434649

>Japs are pretty shit at stand-up

Stand up comedy is shit.

Where can I find a good season 2 torrent? On nyaa the only season 2 subbed I can find is a 720p bd without dual audio (but there is a bd 1080p dual audio season 1).

>>434859

>They just use computers to help color in the animation cels

They don't use celluloids anymore, m8.

>My picture looks better than yours

Sure. I love Fantasia, but the backgrounds are inferior. The animation is obviously superior, though.

> Does something being older automatically make it better?

Who said that?

> Personally, I prefer the charming look of those old cartoons from the 1940s and you seem to prefer that classic 90s anime style with a lot of nice shading and stuff

Both have incredible detail in it, be it drawing or animation.

You can say what you want, but the anime bubble popped a long time ago, and it shows through corner cuts everywhere.

>Your only showing a still picture, with what looks to be a woman walking down a snowy path. It looks very pretty, but why is it better? Is it better? How do you know it's better? It's hand drawn, but is it animated well? Even if it's animated well does it really matter based on the context of the scene? I don't know if the anime based off of your picture was animated well or not. But that doesn't really matter.

I didn't say that the animation was good (it is), but what I already said is that attention to detail, through drawing and/or animation is here. You can't even recognize the Kenshin OVAs?

>What matters is that styles change over time and maybe you prefer a certain style that has a lot of charm and "atmosphere" to it. That's completely ok. Wouldn't it be bad if styles were to never change? I'd be sick of looking at the same style over and over if that were the case.

"Change is always progress!", "We're moving forward, shitlord!" I know I'm going too far, but stop your relativist bullshit.

>>434838

Or that could be a poor BD remaster.

>>434896

>You technically implied that by saying "anime before," sort of like the "BACK IN MY DAY, MY CHINESE CARTOONS WERE GLORIOUSLY DETAILED."

I never implied that this was because of age itself. And there are obvious exceptions.

>'m not trying to be a dick, but you never commented anything about the attention to detail. All you mentioned was that it had a hand painted background and beautiful grain. You never even made a barebones mention of all the nice brushstrokes in your picture. Just saying a "hand painted background" could imply any level of quality and the only time you said the word "beautiful" was when describing grain.

Yeah, I wasn't really clear, since I was sure I wasn't the only one to share this feel.

>I don't understand how I'm supposed to recognize something that I've never watched.

Nice one Enstein; I was indeed mocking your plebness. Seriously, see the Tsuiokuhen OVA.

>Both of them perform the same function

That's where the fallacy is. It's not "the same" just because it produces a sequence of animated images.

> Anime is an industry made to make money. It sounds like a lazy argument, but if something can potentially be done to save production costs then it will be done to maximize profit. It's more or less the reason why most shows look the way they do nowadays.

You call that moving forward? Stop considering this through the eyes of the salesmen, you're the buyer, m8.

>Also, we're both using high quality OVAs/movies as a basis for how all anime looked back then, which is sort of unfair. Here's a screenshot from Key The Metal Idol. I wouldn't recommend watching it because it's kind of bad, but my point is that there seems to be a collective notion that the vast majority of old anime did not have their own share of faults. If it wasn't a high budget OVA or movie, then there tended to be a lot of corner cutting and mistakes.

Yeah I know. If we could measure quality, and we took the average, we progressed (I still think that styles were a little more diverse in the 90s). Still, you won't see an Akira, a Jin-Roh, or a Mononoke hime in 2015, and you know it.

Kind of like comparing female and male IQ distribution.

>>434896

Also, what I meant by corner cuts today, is that even stuff that's supposed to have budget (which is not a lot) uses them.

That's kind of sad.

>>434904

Do I need to watch or read anything before diving into Tsuiokuhen? I've only ever watched the original Rurouni Kenshin when I was a kid.

>That's where the fallacy is. It's not "the same" just because it produces a sequence of animated images.

Yeah, that's fair enough. It was kind of a poor example looking back.

>Still, you won't see an Akira, a Jin-Roh, or a Mononoke hime in 2015, and you know it.

I really can't deny that and it kind of sucks. The last animated film that I saw recently that managed to give me a great impression similar to the ones that you mentioned was Millennium Actress and even then that movie came out in 2001.

>>434929

I always found it strange that her ceramic mask blocked a shot to the face.

>Kind of sucked compared to Prefect Blue and Paprika, I thought.

I honestly thought Millenium Actress was actually one of Kon's best works and Paprika to be kind of weak in comparison. But Paprika had some fantastic visuals, a great soundtrack, and it was overall pretty entertaining to watch.

First season didn't do anything for me, but the "every episode is a completely different anime" thing in S2 was great. S2E9 was fucking amazing.

>>435628

Oh whoops, meant ep 8.

This shit >>434845 was great, and there were a bunch of other S2 episodes that were also really good.

>>434940

You know that some current bulletproof plates are in ceramic, right?

>>434801

>onestly, there were a lot of incredible works back then, but I think anime now has matured a lot more in terms of directorial and animation style.

Anime is currently bombarded with moe and loli.

Your argument is invalid.

Just started watching this.

So how in ep1 did they all survive? How does gel keep surviving perry's wrath? Does it just not matter (somewhat like super jail, south park, metalocalypse, etc), where no matter how many people die they just come back next episode just cause?

The zombie episode is pretty hilarious so far.

>>436035

Keep watching and you'll find out.

>>436037

He didn't take the loli. Dandy is disappoint.

>>434781

>>434781

I think you only hate meow because he reflects who you are as a person.

A useless waste of space neet, that is socially awkard, only goes for 2d girls, spends all his time playing games/on the internet, and is a huge slob that can't even clean his own room (probably has piss bottles too).

>>436035

It's pretty deep

>>436037

>>436458

So, was the entire "explanation" that whole warping thing? So lets say they wanted to warp from A to B. They would essentially be traveling to a parallel universe where their counterpart would already be at B and then they take over the role as the counterpart and never realize it? I'm confused. Also this explains why they never die, because each episode they just start in a new universe? Are all the universes 100% mirrored/parallel, like does Dandy in Universe 19203927 have the same memories as Dandy in Universe 1, because they've been essentially living the same life? If so, why don't they all die at the same time? Or is it, when you die, you essentially just wake up in a new universe but never realize it? I'm real confused.

>>439769

It was a pretty goddamn good dub, aside from the highschool musical ep

>>439772

the warp drive, from my understanding, removes you from your current universe (A) and merges you with the self from a universe that is in all ways identical to the one you just came from (B), with the only difference being that you are already at your destination in universe B. I think it's implied in the show that your consciousness from A replaces the guy from B, but the two versions were basically identical in the first place so it doesn't bother anyone. Think of the Rick & Morty episode where they create the world of cronenbergs and then escape to a universe where everything is the same except they died instead of creating the monsters. Then they just slip into their old lives and nobody knows any different except them. Except the whole "burying your own corpses" thing is covered by the warp drive somehow.

>>439772

I would think that parallel universes aren't that alike. After all, if Dandy was already in point B in another universe, he would probably have been doing something else. And proof that the universes are not completely parallel is episode one of season two, remember all those Dandies?

Not all universes are exactly the same. Dandy exist in all of universes. He probably not really human and he made of some magical/scientific shit. He may have memory of all that happen, but he might not give a fuck about it.

>>439856

>Dandy exists in all universes

So do the side characters though.

>>439838

Some are vastly different, others are exactly the same except for one tiny difference. There's infinite other universes.

>>439798

Dandy's and QT's voice are so obnoxious though.

>>439801

>>439838

>>439856

>>439857

Ok I think I got it. Now does the last 2 episodes explain what the hell pyonium is and why gogol wants dandy? if he's so important why doesn't jaicro and johnny know? because johnny could have taken him during the rock star episode.

>>439860

>johnny could have taken him

They are fucking friends!

>>439862

>he was male I'll give you that.

He is vacuum cleaner with female voice who was attracted to coffee machine who had feminine qualities. Also I think crew refer to him as a male.