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File: cb01ce1584675d8⋯.png (911.32 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, IMG_0634.PNG)

 No.779410

A show about cyborg Seibah delivering letters and learning about love after suffering PTSD.

Not sure what to think of this other than the art is quite good. Hopefully the characters and world development are better than most of Kyoani's shows otherwise I might be dropping this one.

 No.779412

>>779410

>Violet Evergarden

Oh yeah, I was looking forward to that one eversince I saw that one PV. The one with the typewriter sounds.


 No.779421

>>779410

So, boring-as-fuck-everything but with bait-waifu-eyecandy?


 No.779423

>>779421

What's a bait-waifu?

A waifu that only pretends to be pure for most of the show to get you to love her only to turn out to be a disgusting piece of shit in the last episode?


 No.779426

>>779423

>bait-waifu

She's there to be the reason people would actually watch her weak/boring/crap show


 No.779428

>>779426

So, basically it's the sole redeeming feature of an otherwise uninteresting show.


 No.779495

>>779435

>pioneer anti lolicons

Didn't their last show literally adapt that one part in the manga with the loli dragon wanting to X the human loli?


 No.779503

File: 2dde0b1ee94a25c⋯.png (557.94 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Kagerou waiting.png)

File: 13fb96b01873d80⋯.png (10.69 KB, 265x379, 265:379, Asenshi VEG.png)

Can't wait for 20 hour QC.


 No.779507

>>779495

Don't mind him. He's a buttmad weirdo who'll ignore a nopan loli just to stay mad.


 No.779546

Is this gonna be a comfy SoL like Time of Eve? I want more of cute androids and robots doing cute things.


 No.779550

>>779500

>cutting out all Kanna's ass cheeks

All two of them? Does she have more?


 No.779575

How long do I have to wait for non-cartel subs?


 No.779576

File: a9256d61559ac80⋯.png (1.09 MB, 1124x1006, 562:503, Asenshi Violet Evergarden.png)

Welp, looks like I'm waiting another day.


 No.779587

Yeah the worldbuilding in this show has been almost non-existent to start, the pacing feels messy and they don't really expand on the war unless their idea is to use Violet's backstory as a background for each episode and each letter she ghostwrites but even then there's no focus on where she is and they seem to push the melodrama a bit early without properly developing the mood.

I hope it improves because i like the setting but its not a very good first episode.


 No.779617

Art & animation are good, but like it's usually the case for Kyoani their usage of digital effects is quite bad.

The setting seems to be a somewhere in the 20th century of Notgermany.

Though as a German, I find it quite weird that the captial of a country named Leidenschaft (passion) is named Leiden (suffering).

The music was lacking and felt out of place. I am still wondering why the hell they hired Evan Call as the composer.

Evan's strong suit is heavy strong music. The type of music which plays in action and suspenseful scenes.

He just doesn't fit shows like VEG or Hakumei Mikochi.

I really hope that VEG turns around, but currently I am just disappointed by the show.


 No.779659

Good start so far. I like where this is going and can't wait to watch more of this. the reason she bites stuff is so adorable


 No.779661

>>779576

Why would you? The original is 720p, so the 1080p would just be a software upscaling.

Also, the Netflix stuff it's kinda disgusting and a turn off.


 No.779663

>>779661

>The original is 720p, so the 1080p would just be a software upscaling.

That image specifically says the show is produced in full 1080p.


 No.779664

>>779661

>The reasoning here is that the show is produced in full HD (1080p) and benefits a lot from having a proper 1080p encode but getting one from a TV station is not really possible because most of the stations air at 1440x1080 and are littered with MPEG2 artifacting.

Doesn't this mean it's made for 1080 like a few other KyoAni productions were and TV stations downscale it?


 No.779669

>>779661

It's not, the original is 1080p, 720p is actually a downscale. It's Kyoani, they've been ramping up resolution like this for a while now, guess they're all the way to proper HD by now.


 No.779751

I liked it, but I thought bringing out the melodrama by spelling out that the Major said I love you as he died really ruined the good atmosphere and character development the show had going. I feel this should have been something that was brought up in a later episode once the audience has had time to get to know Violet. Also her wanting to be a typist so she can understand what is meant by I love you is really fucking dumb. I still enjoyed it and I'll watch it. We will see how it goes.


 No.779793

File: 4f916ebb5af6fb5⋯.png (2.47 MB, 960x1620, 16:27, muh-filters.png)

File: 467f8ab9bd9398b⋯.gif (2.99 MB, 540x304, 135:76, muh-filters.gif)

Do the filters need fixing?


 No.779797

She's clearly different from other soldiers. Didn't see any other women in the war flashbacks so far either. Could be secret robot or some sort of child super soldier program. She was called a dog in past, so can assume she acted oddly before the ptsd set in.


 No.779800

>>779793

>Do the filters need fixing?

Yes, Kyoani always had issues with digital editing and bad use of filters & bloom.

But in VEG's case it's especially bad, it just looks so much worse with the filters and it hurts my eyes.


 No.779804

File: fc713620881f527⋯.jpg (101.16 KB, 900x642, 150:107, fc713620881f527a3ab0cf82a8….jpg)

>>779793

Like >>779800 says, it hurts your eyes at the end.

And it makes the anime look like one of those dramatic romances for my grandma that are set in one of those victorian houses with maids.

Its really overdone to the point of fucking all their shit up.


 No.779832

File: 750a8d7c1e09230⋯.png (860.67 KB, 700x847, 100:121, DSwvklyV4AEMVR5.png)

So I read somewhere that she's actually not an android

If that's the case, I don't really see how this story is going to work

As other's have said, the pacing was too fast, post-fx were bad, and there was a real lack of focus on any of the characters/actions.

I'm really hoping that this tightens up after the first episode.


 No.779847

File: 7b61e7fd3e9a8eb⋯.jpg (126.43 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0037.jpg)

File: 1d4df40778dd7d4⋯.jpg (64.69 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0041.jpg)

File: 2329af5668c1e29⋯.jpg (51.96 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0042.jpg)

File: 028f3c68c52d97a⋯.jpg (55.9 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0044.jpg)

My impression of the first episode is that it's nice. Nothing to write home about, sure, and the filters are driving me insane. But the art is beautiful as so is Violet (otherworldly so). I think it will be enjoyable to watch as long as you keep your expectations in check. I hope they will find some room for more PTSD flashbacks because military girls are my fetish, especially ones that are all fucked up.

>>779832

My theory is that she 's more like a replicant. Technically an android, but bioengineered and virtually indistinguishable from a human. I'm guessing this because she bleeds, and the mechanical arms were only added after she lost her original arms, meaning they're more like prosthetics.

>>779435

It literally mentions she is underage, so you're fucking retarded, as usual.


 No.779858

>>779804

They're economizing the money they spent on the character animation hiding the hideous background with filters.

Also, KyoAni is funded by Yakuza.


 No.779860

>>779847

>she's underage

>therefore she's a loli and not an old hag

Looks like you're the retard here.


 No.779863

File: a038db0d459060a⋯.jpg (261.38 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0043.jpg)

Asenshi subs ver.2 in 1080 is out, looking noticeably sharper.

>>779860

>implying I said loli

>implying underage means old hag

>implying you're not actually insane


 No.779867

>>779863

Time for me to download and set up my RSS.


 No.779887

>>779832

>That image

What is it with big studios and the need to blur everything and jack up the bloom.

>>779847

She probably is some sort of science project, since she is able to lose both arms and not bleed to death.


 No.779911

That was better than I expected from Kyoani, but I think they're usually garbage so it's not saying a lot. This type of sappy android story has been done quite a few times and I'm not sure what this brings to the table other than Kyoani's usual overdone animation and art. The weirdly advanced post-war world could be interesting, if they actually dealt with it, which they don't seem to be too intent on doing.


 No.780067

I'll see where it goes with episode 2. I don't expect to stick with it past that, not really my cup of tea. I just wanted to see what the buzz was about.


 No.780069

>PTSD

I don't think autistics can get PTSD, Because she was DEFINITELY an autistic during/before the war.


 No.780159

>>780069

From what I know they can, but it's of a different nature, and the normal methods of dealing with it only make it worse.


 No.780355

File: 73f3e5d16ffe7ca⋯.jpg (882.29 KB, 1300x1113, 1300:1113, 73f3e5d16ffe7ca6e187a2566a….jpg)

>Germanic sounding country

>Stahlhelms

>Won the war

Good enough for me


 No.780453

>>780069

>I don't think autistics can get PTSD

I'm pretty sure they can get trauma so how couldn't they get PTSD?

Regardless she's clearly emotional but for some reason is autistic about the concept of purity and affection for some stupid reason.


 No.780625

File: d6cfc18a43c9288⋯.gif (904.25 KB, 500x532, 125:133, d6cfc18a43c9288d7868258c90….gif)

>>779661

>Also, the Netflix stuff it's kinda disgusting and a turn off.

This. Netflix getting involved in anime is basically my worst nightmare - apparently they had something to do with the new Devilman anime as well?


 No.780637

>>780625

New Devilman was legit. Watch it.


 No.780859

File: 7375ed0abd48318⋯.png (1.01 MB, 1278x1646, 639:823, 1515627854734.png)

Okay, just watched it and its underwhelming but not bad.

The animation and overall look is top notch, the music and everything that makes the production values are also great, too bad everything else is bland.

The MC is an autistic mecha girl suffering from PTSD trying to understand emotions, while its not a bad concept, she sure is annoying and cant really understand the most basic human interaction, like how the fuck is she like that after almost 20 years and dont tell me because "muuh military regime", even then soldiers form bonds, build camaraderie and try to have fun when not in combat as to make the best out of a bad situation.

While the anime is not groundbreaking or a masterpiece, I hope they expand on things and build up on the lackluster first episode because it has promise and I hope KyoAni delivers.

Also they need to tone down on the fucking filters, makes the pretty art look clouded and muddy.


 No.780867

>>780625

Netflix only bought the streaming rights for VEG.

That's not different from what Amazon or CR doing.

Amazon has worldwide streaming rights for Noitamina.

>apparently they had something to do with the new Devilman anime as well?

They almost entirely funded it, and have exclusive rights for it.

In this case they didn't just buy a licencse like for VEG, but were actually involved in the production process. It's of note that Netflix generally allows their creators lots of creative freedom, but I am still concerned with this.

This is different than what Amazon does (buying rights), or CR(buying rights, and in some cases partially funding an anime).

Netflix did almost all of the funding, and they have immense influence over the creative process, even if they generally don't make use of this, it's still dangerous.


 No.780881

>>780637

Legit shit you mean.


 No.780883

>>780867

Netflix is on the production committee. Check the credits.


 No.781172

>>780859

I'm glad the bottom lip thing for girls is shrinking. Just two years ago it was common to have one fat lip down there.


 No.781268

To be honest the premise seems somewhat interesting but the directing is awful. The episode is padded with a lot of pointless scenes, the tone is inconsistent, and the characterisation is off. It's an overproduced melodrama.


 No.781366

>>780867

>Netflix generally allows their creators lots of creative freedom

EA also uses that argument before bleeding studios dry.

>"Come to us and have bigger budget and more creative freedom"

>"What do you mean you want to add this? This is not publishers approved, remove it".

I wouldn't be surprised if netflix does the same thing.


 No.781367

>>781366

I think the main difference between EA and netflix would be that I think games are more expensive to make than TV material. So I could imagine netflix feeling less pressured to streamline its products.

Games are more about the currently trending top 10. TV is more about having a wide range of options, filling every niche.

I might be completely wrong with this.


 No.781371

The retard probably doesn't even realise this is Netflix trying to subvert anime and bankrupt Japanese studios.

It's the first step, "partnership", "funding", "sponsorship".

Just look what China did with manufacturing and industrial espionage.

It's a cultural war and Netflix knows this, the Japanese still make things they don't approve of as competition and they want to change that.

Don't forget that the founder of Netflix has Sigmund Freud and Edward Bernays is his family tree.


 No.781675

First episode was so cringe. It reminded me of Kyoukai no Kanata and all the fake as fuck "moe" attempts in that one.

>KnK: look at my cute huge glasses, look at how clumsy I am, oh no I need money, please love me aren't I cute?

>VEG: look at my lavish blonde hair, look at how autistic I am, nom-nom my hands can't feel so I have to use my mouth like a baby, please love me aren't I cute?


 No.781689

>>779587

>Yeah the worldbuilding in this show has been almost non-existent to start

What little is there is also pretty inconsistent, even for a steam-punk-ish setting. Advanced prosthetics in a world where you still have illiterate farmers? Gas-lamps in the streets but electric lighting indoors? I don't think anyone really thought any of this stuff through.


 No.781697

>>779887

Even worse, why even bother detailing it if it's going to get some pixelated dick tier filter?


 No.781712

The first episode was so unbelievable boring, why does anyone want to watch this?


 No.781717

>>780883

I did, and they aren't on the committee.

The committee is:

Kyoto Animation

Ponny Cannyon

ABC Animation

Lantis

Rakuonsha

>>781366

Anime production & funding are completely different form Western game development.

To my knowledge Electronic Arts prefers to purchase companies, and not just use them as contractors.

>>781367

There are 2 cases with Netflix.

Case 1, they are just buying streaming rights and have no impact on the production.

Case 2, they fund an anime almost entirely on their own, and have a large influence on the production.

While it is true, that most content creators say that Netflix gives them complete creative freedom, it's still dangerous that a Western company has that much influence in an anime production.

Then there's Amazon and Crunchyroll. Amazon is just purchasing streaming rights, but clearly wants to become the number 1 anime streaming site in Japan.

Crunchyroll is buying streaming rights for the West, but since 2017 they are also directly involved in funding many anime (Kemono Friends, Yuru Camp, Isekai Shokudō, Yōkoso Jitsuryoku Shijō Shugi no Kyōshitsu e, Centaur no Nayami, etc.). But differently from Netflix case 2, Crunchyroll is just part of the committee and has heavily limited influence on the production.


 No.781724

>>781717

They're not listed under the usual committee credits, but they get an "in collaboration with Netflix" credit. Also, KyoAni uploaded foreign language versions of the theme song on their channel and that seems like an odd thing to do if Netflix is merely a licensor.

>>781712

>why does anyone want to watch this?

It looks pretty. Aside for the milky colours that is.


 No.781740

>>781724

>They're not listed under the usual committee credits

That means they aren't on the committee.

>"in collaboration with Netflix

Pretty sure the credit was "in association with Netflix".

It isn't weird for them to be credited, when they are the Japanese streaming site, and do the dubs + the international distribution.

>Also, KyoAni uploaded foreign language versions of the theme song on their channel and that seems like an odd thing to do if Netflix is merely a licensor.

Why is this an odd thing? It's not rare that the head of the production committee publishes openings,endings and previews on their Youtube channel.

There's also the fact that Violet Evergarden has aimed from the start to be an internationally appealing work.


 No.781754

>>781740

>That means they aren't on the committee.

That's arguing semantics. The salient point is that they partially financed the series.

>It isn't weird for them to be credited

It would be, if they were merely a licensor.

>There's also the fact that Violet Evergarden has aimed from the start to be an internationally appealing work.

Which also hints to an early association/collaboration to an international distributor (in this case Netflix).


 No.781783

>>781754

>That's arguing semantics.

No it isn't. The production committee credit is meant for the financers. The companies credited there, are the ones that funded the anime.

Netflix isn't credited there, they aren't credited as a financer.

An anime is always funded by the production committee, Netflix isn't on the committee.

Meaning they didn't finance Violet Evergarden.

>Which also hints to an early association/collaboration to an international distributor (in this case Netflix).

No, it doesn't. A production committee member always holds the international rights, and has interest in the work being promoted internationally.

In Violet Evergardens case, it's likely that either Pony Canyon or ABC Animation has the international rights.

Netflix just bought the license from them.


 No.781788

>>781783

I think you're wrong/reaching but since neither of us actually has access to what goes on behind the scenes and we're only speculating, I'll just drop the subject.


 No.781961

>so many posts that are barely related to the anime

>the ones that are about it are mostly lukewarm

This is one of the most disappointing releases in years isn't it? What was the hype all about anyway?


 No.781973

>>781961

Honestly, KyoAni should keep making K-On forever. I'd watch that.


 No.781993

File: 82d649ac2bbfac8⋯.jpg (135.23 KB, 2000x2579, 2000:2579, Anime Production Committee….jpg)

>>781788

>neither of us actually has access to what goes on behind the scenes and we're only speculating,

How the production committee system works is public knowledge.

There's nothing speculative about it, it's just plain facts.

From the production committee section of a Harvard paper on the anime industry (page 23-25) http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/09-114_02065969-dad8-4f08-b2ea-8212ba46fb74.pdf

>The production committee funds the anime projects and shares revenues and profits from the investments.

>Each member of the committee makes an investment and in exchange receives: (a) a share of the copyrights (and the associated licensing revenues) linked to the anime in proportion to the initial investment;

>and (b) the right to distribute the resulting content through the particular member’s channel—broadcasting right for TV stations, distribution right of videos/DVDs for video/DVD publishers.

>All committee members contribute to some part of the value chain, but TV stations often lead the committee because television is the primary distribution channel.

Articles explaining what a production committtee does:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05 (Production Committee Paragraph)

https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/05/02/what-is-an-animes-production-committee/

>I think you're wrong/reaching

Where am I reaching?

>>780883

Your argument is that Netflix in on the production committtee, even though they aren't credited as a member of the production committee.

Thas's like saying a Netflix employee directed the anime, because it's "in association with Netflix".

The "in association with Netflix" credit has nothing to do with the production committee. It's a completely different credit.

Violet Evergarden production committee credits:

製作:ヴァイオレット・エヴァーガーデン製作委員会

京都アニメーション

ポニーキャニオン

ABCアニメーション

ランティス

楽音舎

It boils down to the fact, that the credits need to be wrong for Netflix to be on the committee.

Perhaps they were a secondary sponsor, who bought the streaming rights, but the fact remains that Netflix wasn't on the committee and didn't have any direct creative influence on Violet Evergarden.


 No.782066

>>781993

Licensors don't get credits on the series anon. Whatever its role with the making of the anime was, it was not that of a mere licensor.


 No.782115

>>781993

>a Harvard paper on the anime industry

What the fuck


 No.782295

>>779617

>I find it quite weird that the captial of a country named Leidenschaft (passion) is named Leiden (suffering).

Suffering is at the heart of passion, anon. Why is that weird?


 No.782296

>>779858

>KyoAni is funded by Yakuza.

Please give sources. I would love it if true.


 No.782298

File: 619a94003111f9c⋯.jpg (258.71 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0006.jpg)

>>779911

>The weirdly advanced post-war world could be interesting, if they actually dealt with it, which they don't seem to be too intent on doing.

I was thinking the same. Seeing the cannons covered in wild growth really got to me. I hope we see more post-war stuff in the atmosphere and plot, and it's not just a backdrop for the characters.


 No.782299

>>780637

Fuck you. Read the manga first.


 No.782302

>>782299

>>780881

The anime was alright, if it had really been as shit as you think the thread wouldn't have even gone beyond bump limit.


 No.782316

>>781371

Sounds like Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.


 No.782361

Finished first episode. I guess it's a cute premise. Hopefully they tone down the melodrama and kick JJ Abrams off the project, that lens flare is annoying. Ruins a good art style.


 No.782371

>>782298

Don't hold your breath over it.


 No.782592

Episode two is out.

God this show's so boring. They had a chance to make it fun with the socialite lady and the letter, but Violet fucks up in the completely predictable way instead of something cute.

Meh, probably wont make it past 3rd.


 No.782625

>>782361

>and kick JJ Abrams off the project, that lens flare is annoying. Ruins a good art style.

This is my number one complaint about this anime. The filters are terrible.


 No.782630

>>782361

>>782625

Same Jew Jew Abhrams who made Star Trek Reboot and Star Wars SJW 7 & 8 is in the project?


 No.782648

>>782630

Yeah, he is.


 No.782691

>>782630

That's the one. I think ep2 was a bit better onthat front.


 No.782742

File: 50a5c4d0ff28075⋯.png (266.26 KB, 1058x1571, 1058:1571, 50a5c4d0ff28075cf09523d5f2….png)

Asenshi 1080 subs will be one day late, as usual.

>>782648

Nice shitposting, faggot.


 No.782847

File: f75a2d0eb0be16f⋯.jpg (76.53 KB, 1000x720, 25:18, __katyusha_and_nonna_girls….jpg)

When the first episode dropped I downloaded it from HS and immediately noticed a grey tinge to the image throughout the file. I assumed that they fucked up some settings in the rip and that there was gonna be a v2 at some point. It's kinda like when you mismatch the HDMI black level settings between your TV to the source. I deleted it and forgot about it.

Coming back to it now there's so much drama about the look of the show. Apparently it's believed that that grey desaturation was done on purpose. Every nigger is talking about filters, aesthetic, directorial intent but I still genuinely think that at some point in the chain between studio to netflix to ripped file somebody's just fucked up. Does anybody have any concrete info on this or is it all just autistic shitposting?


 No.782853

>>782625

>This is my number one complaint about this anime.

Sounds like a pretty minor thing to complain about. Especially when it has so many much bigger problems, like garbage characterisation.


 No.782855

>>782847

The lens flare shit is on purpose. KyoAni does it constantly, just necer this much.


 No.782857

>>782855

never*


 No.782858

>>782847

The anime looks like that on purpose. Either Ishidate or someone else at KyoAni has a boner for the washed out look. The Liz and the Blue Bird movie seems to look very milky as well.

I still don't get why this got so many people upset though. It's nowhere near being the biggest problem of the anime. My guess is that people don't like other shit but they aren't articulate enough to express what it is about this anime that rubs them off, and the "filters" thing was a low hanging fruit that anyone could grab and say "that's it, this is what bugs me".


 No.782868

File: 518f1310dd406f6⋯.jpg (847.41 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….jpg)

I wonder where they are going with this story.

They introduced some other kinds of plots/drama that hopefully won't be complete trash, also cutest girl.


 No.782873

File: ee9f122aef1aacd⋯.jpg (164.23 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0019.jpg)

File: d5f0e9b0f48e95a⋯.jpg (211.65 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0018.jpg)

File: 86af5dd0357e94f⋯.jpg (210.96 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0021.jpg)

File: b67e1533da21273⋯.jpg (183.78 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0020.jpg)

Check out this cute nerd!

>>782868

It's too early to tell what they have in mind. I think that at this stage the only development that is certain to happen is Violet's unavoidable zetsubou once she discovers that the major is currently resting in pieces. Actually wondering if they'll drag/build-up the reveal until the end and use that as the punchline to the story. Hopefully not.


 No.782877

They could put this under the dictionary definition of "pretentious". Everything is so played up, that serious tone, fancy art with lots of details, sad violin playing the entire time, and then the peak of the episode is

>hello I have assburgers:DDDD

And it's for the second time, too.


 No.782878

>>782877

This seems better as an OVA instead of a full series to me.


 No.782885

>>782877

I don't think any of those characteristics you mentioned serve to express "unwarranted importance" on their own, nor are any of them negative qualities.

I think that calling this show pretentious is indicative of it not lining up to whatever high expectations you might have.


 No.782894

>>782878

Shorter runtime could've fixed some of the problems, but I guess we'll just have to see how long they drag this out.

>>782885

>I don't think any of those characteristics you mentioned serve to express "unwarranted importance" on their own, nor are any of them negative qualities.

No, it's specifically combined together that they express unwarranted importance. It's like going to the fanciest restaurant in town, ordering the Chef's special, and getting some Tesco-bought regular cooked sausages on a gold-lined plate. It's not dogshit, but surely it's not what they should be serving at a high-end restaurant. Likewise, if you have such a mediocre story, you really shouldn't bother going completely out of your way to touch it up and make it look like this is the best drama of the decade. That scene in particular had a massive disconnect between how seriously it was presented and how seriously it was possible to take it.


 No.782900

>Likewise, if you have such a mediocre story, you really shouldn't bother going completely out of your way to touch it up and make it look like this is the best drama of the decade.

Admittedly, I think the main reason why I'm watching this show is because it looks pretty and Violet (and now also the nerd) is gorgeous. I wonder if I'd even have picked it up otherwise. So you do have a good point.


 No.782906

>>782894

One of the thoughts which popped into my mind while watching the second episode was "is this the anime equivalent of Oscarbait?", what with a standard premise designed to tug your heartstrings being dressed up in high production value to make it seem worthwhile and josei-esque male characters with a female MC in order to attract the female audience. Like you can't help but think that with the high quality animation and background art and down-to-earth story and strong character focus that there surely must be more to this anime, because those aforementioned things are all signs of something unique, and that's how people get suckered in. I have no idea why KyoAni went so far with this anime adaptation in particular, though it seems to be paying off... critically at least.

I don't particularly hate Evergarden, though it doesn't really make me feel anything either. I'm more enamored by the setting, which reminds me of my old home in Croatia, so it's unintentional nostalgia which somehow keeps me hooked. The exterior look of Leiden is more Mediterranean, but the interiors rather hint towards Victorian-era British designs, leading me to believe that KyoAni used British and Dutch colonies in Southern-East Asia as inspiration.


 No.782922

>>782873

>the major is currently resting in pieces

I find this very unlikely. This is the kind of cheesy melodrama where he'll probably show up at the end of the series, and they'll explain that he was interned in some military hospital all along. Hodgins was way too ambiguous about whether he is dead or not at the end of episode 2, and he was also pretty avoidant about it in the first.

It's too on the nose. They're trying a "is he dead or not" angle, but knowing this studio, the latter is far more likely.


 No.782924

>>782906

>KyoAni used British and Dutch colonies in Southern-East Asia as inspiration.

Something was bothering me about how fake/colonial the setting is, and I think this might be it.


 No.782944

>>782922

I think Hodgins really believes he is dead. He's not trying to be cagey, he just doesn't want to talk about his dead friend, especially not to Violet whose whole world is Major Gilbert. However, I would not be surprised to see him return at a convenient later date for cheap dramatic effect.


 No.782960

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>>782906

>is this the anime equivalent of Oscarbait?

That's the perfect way to put it, I think. It's not unique, either. I think this kind of anime is more of a plague than isekai, because isekai is just dumb entertainment for dumb kids. This kind of thing actually takes talent and wastes it.


 No.782985

>>782906

>it seems to be paying off... critically at least.

How do you mean?


 No.783010

>>782985

People love to praise this kind of crap because it makes them look smart.

This is part of the definition of "oscarbait".


 No.783018

>>783010

But are they actually praising it? Shitty forum posts, ANN garbo or like, Japanese reviewers if such a thing exists.


 No.783126

>>783018

The MAL rating is 8.66, which is really high, most likely the highest out of everything currently airing. Yuru Camp is at 7.7, Sora yori is about the same.


 No.783195

>>783126

That's high octane shit taste but what does one expect of MAL.


 No.783299

>>783018

>>783126

Most Western reviewers praise it.

I don't know about Japanese reviewers, but it's median Japanese Amazon rank is 185 and it's current rank is 160, which is decent but I wouldn't call Evergarden a hit.

Yuru Camp is currently 28, and will likely heavily outsell Violet Evergarden.

SoraBasho is 211, with an median rank of 538.

Yuru Camp's median rank doesn't matter, because the BD was ready for preorder a month before the anime aired


 No.783436

>>783299

>SoraBasho is 211

Nips and their shit taste again. How can anyone like this overproduced soap opera more than a fun adventure story with cute girls like SoraBasho is beyond me.


 No.783442

>>783436

Probably because it's kyoani.


 No.783446

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>>783436

I believe that SoraBasho will outsell Violet Evergarden.

SoraBasho is an original, and people will be more skeptical to preorder it.

It's ranking is improving with each episode.

Violet Evergarden profits from Kyoani fans, and had a big marketing campaign.

There's almost no Japanese anime fan who didn't watch Violet Evergarden's first episode.

The current ranking is a gigantic disappointment for Kyoani.

The graphs show the ranking for the last 30 days, limited to rank 1000.


 No.783485

>>783446

Sorabasho surge


 No.783489

>>783485

Yori Moi AOTS


 No.783501

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>>783446

It must be nice being the owner of a campsite in Japan right about now.


 No.783509

>>783436

>>783446

Yeah, incredible amount of advertising, production values, and just basically hype for Violet, yet it still doesn't manage to dominate originals or good SoLs.

KyoAni's master plan to use older and older looking females doesn't seem to work, just yet.


 No.783510

>>783509

>Bashes the aesthetics, which is gorgeous and the only reason to watch it in the first place

>Not the shallow and boring as fuck everything else

Tryhard, no one takes you seriously.


 No.783514

>>783510

>Bashes the aesthetics

I bash whatever I hate about it. There's no point in one more person mentioning the horrible filter hell anyways.




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