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File: cb01ce1584675d8⋯.png (911.32 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, IMG_0634.PNG)

 No.779410

A show about cyborg Seibah delivering letters and learning about love after suffering PTSD.

Not sure what to think of this other than the art is quite good. Hopefully the characters and world development are better than most of Kyoani's shows otherwise I might be dropping this one.

 No.779412

>>779410

>Violet Evergarden

Oh yeah, I was looking forward to that one eversince I saw that one PV. The one with the typewriter sounds.


 No.779421

>>779410

So, boring-as-fuck-everything but with bait-waifu-eyecandy?


 No.779423

>>779421

What's a bait-waifu?

A waifu that only pretends to be pure for most of the show to get you to love her only to turn out to be a disgusting piece of shit in the last episode?


 No.779426

>>779423

>bait-waifu

She's there to be the reason people would actually watch her weak/boring/crap show


 No.779428

>>779426

So, basically it's the sole redeeming feature of an otherwise uninteresting show.


 No.779495

>>779435

>pioneer anti lolicons

Didn't their last show literally adapt that one part in the manga with the loli dragon wanting to X the human loli?


 No.779503

File: 2dde0b1ee94a25c⋯.png (557.94 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Kagerou waiting.png)

File: 13fb96b01873d80⋯.png (10.69 KB, 265x379, 265:379, Asenshi VEG.png)

Can't wait for 20 hour QC.


 No.779507

>>779495

Don't mind him. He's a buttmad weirdo who'll ignore a nopan loli just to stay mad.


 No.779546

Is this gonna be a comfy SoL like Time of Eve? I want more of cute androids and robots doing cute things.


 No.779550

>>779500

>cutting out all Kanna's ass cheeks

All two of them? Does she have more?


 No.779575

How long do I have to wait for non-cartel subs?


 No.779576

File: a9256d61559ac80⋯.png (1.09 MB, 1124x1006, 562:503, Asenshi Violet Evergarden.png)

Welp, looks like I'm waiting another day.


 No.779587

Yeah the worldbuilding in this show has been almost non-existent to start, the pacing feels messy and they don't really expand on the war unless their idea is to use Violet's backstory as a background for each episode and each letter she ghostwrites but even then there's no focus on where she is and they seem to push the melodrama a bit early without properly developing the mood.

I hope it improves because i like the setting but its not a very good first episode.


 No.779617

Art & animation are good, but like it's usually the case for Kyoani their usage of digital effects is quite bad.

The setting seems to be a somewhere in the 20th century of Notgermany.

Though as a German, I find it quite weird that the captial of a country named Leidenschaft (passion) is named Leiden (suffering).

The music was lacking and felt out of place. I am still wondering why the hell they hired Evan Call as the composer.

Evan's strong suit is heavy strong music. The type of music which plays in action and suspenseful scenes.

He just doesn't fit shows like VEG or Hakumei Mikochi.

I really hope that VEG turns around, but currently I am just disappointed by the show.


 No.779659

Good start so far. I like where this is going and can't wait to watch more of this. the reason she bites stuff is so adorable


 No.779661

>>779576

Why would you? The original is 720p, so the 1080p would just be a software upscaling.

Also, the Netflix stuff it's kinda disgusting and a turn off.


 No.779663

>>779661

>The original is 720p, so the 1080p would just be a software upscaling.

That image specifically says the show is produced in full 1080p.


 No.779664

>>779661

>The reasoning here is that the show is produced in full HD (1080p) and benefits a lot from having a proper 1080p encode but getting one from a TV station is not really possible because most of the stations air at 1440x1080 and are littered with MPEG2 artifacting.

Doesn't this mean it's made for 1080 like a few other KyoAni productions were and TV stations downscale it?


 No.779669

>>779661

It's not, the original is 1080p, 720p is actually a downscale. It's Kyoani, they've been ramping up resolution like this for a while now, guess they're all the way to proper HD by now.


 No.779751

I liked it, but I thought bringing out the melodrama by spelling out that the Major said I love you as he died really ruined the good atmosphere and character development the show had going. I feel this should have been something that was brought up in a later episode once the audience has had time to get to know Violet. Also her wanting to be a typist so she can understand what is meant by I love you is really fucking dumb. I still enjoyed it and I'll watch it. We will see how it goes.


 No.779793

File: 4f916ebb5af6fb5⋯.png (2.47 MB, 960x1620, 16:27, muh-filters.png)

File: 467f8ab9bd9398b⋯.gif (2.99 MB, 540x304, 135:76, muh-filters.gif)

Do the filters need fixing?


 No.779797

She's clearly different from other soldiers. Didn't see any other women in the war flashbacks so far either. Could be secret robot or some sort of child super soldier program. She was called a dog in past, so can assume she acted oddly before the ptsd set in.


 No.779800

>>779793

>Do the filters need fixing?

Yes, Kyoani always had issues with digital editing and bad use of filters & bloom.

But in VEG's case it's especially bad, it just looks so much worse with the filters and it hurts my eyes.


 No.779804

File: fc713620881f527⋯.jpg (101.16 KB, 900x642, 150:107, fc713620881f527a3ab0cf82a8….jpg)

>>779793

Like >>779800 says, it hurts your eyes at the end.

And it makes the anime look like one of those dramatic romances for my grandma that are set in one of those victorian houses with maids.

Its really overdone to the point of fucking all their shit up.


 No.779832

File: 750a8d7c1e09230⋯.png (860.67 KB, 700x847, 100:121, DSwvklyV4AEMVR5.png)

So I read somewhere that she's actually not an android

If that's the case, I don't really see how this story is going to work

As other's have said, the pacing was too fast, post-fx were bad, and there was a real lack of focus on any of the characters/actions.

I'm really hoping that this tightens up after the first episode.


 No.779847

File: 7b61e7fd3e9a8eb⋯.jpg (126.43 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0037.jpg)

File: 1d4df40778dd7d4⋯.jpg (64.69 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0041.jpg)

File: 2329af5668c1e29⋯.jpg (51.96 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0042.jpg)

File: 028f3c68c52d97a⋯.jpg (55.9 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0044.jpg)

My impression of the first episode is that it's nice. Nothing to write home about, sure, and the filters are driving me insane. But the art is beautiful as so is Violet (otherworldly so). I think it will be enjoyable to watch as long as you keep your expectations in check. I hope they will find some room for more PTSD flashbacks because military girls are my fetish, especially ones that are all fucked up.

>>779832

My theory is that she 's more like a replicant. Technically an android, but bioengineered and virtually indistinguishable from a human. I'm guessing this because she bleeds, and the mechanical arms were only added after she lost her original arms, meaning they're more like prosthetics.

>>779435

It literally mentions she is underage, so you're fucking retarded, as usual.


 No.779858

>>779804

They're economizing the money they spent on the character animation hiding the hideous background with filters.

Also, KyoAni is funded by Yakuza.


 No.779860

>>779847

>she's underage

>therefore she's a loli and not an old hag

Looks like you're the retard here.


 No.779863

File: a038db0d459060a⋯.jpg (261.38 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0043.jpg)

Asenshi subs ver.2 in 1080 is out, looking noticeably sharper.

>>779860

>implying I said loli

>implying underage means old hag

>implying you're not actually insane


 No.779867

>>779863

Time for me to download and set up my RSS.


 No.779887

>>779832

>That image

What is it with big studios and the need to blur everything and jack up the bloom.

>>779847

She probably is some sort of science project, since she is able to lose both arms and not bleed to death.


 No.779911

That was better than I expected from Kyoani, but I think they're usually garbage so it's not saying a lot. This type of sappy android story has been done quite a few times and I'm not sure what this brings to the table other than Kyoani's usual overdone animation and art. The weirdly advanced post-war world could be interesting, if they actually dealt with it, which they don't seem to be too intent on doing.


 No.780067

I'll see where it goes with episode 2. I don't expect to stick with it past that, not really my cup of tea. I just wanted to see what the buzz was about.


 No.780069

>PTSD

I don't think autistics can get PTSD, Because she was DEFINITELY an autistic during/before the war.


 No.780159

>>780069

From what I know they can, but it's of a different nature, and the normal methods of dealing with it only make it worse.


 No.780355

File: 73f3e5d16ffe7ca⋯.jpg (882.29 KB, 1300x1113, 1300:1113, 73f3e5d16ffe7ca6e187a2566a….jpg)

>Germanic sounding country

>Stahlhelms

>Won the war

Good enough for me


 No.780453

>>780069

>I don't think autistics can get PTSD

I'm pretty sure they can get trauma so how couldn't they get PTSD?

Regardless she's clearly emotional but for some reason is autistic about the concept of purity and affection for some stupid reason.


 No.780625

File: d6cfc18a43c9288⋯.gif (904.25 KB, 500x532, 125:133, d6cfc18a43c9288d7868258c90….gif)

>>779661

>Also, the Netflix stuff it's kinda disgusting and a turn off.

This. Netflix getting involved in anime is basically my worst nightmare - apparently they had something to do with the new Devilman anime as well?


 No.780637

>>780625

New Devilman was legit. Watch it.


 No.780859

File: 7375ed0abd48318⋯.png (1.01 MB, 1278x1646, 639:823, 1515627854734.png)

Okay, just watched it and its underwhelming but not bad.

The animation and overall look is top notch, the music and everything that makes the production values are also great, too bad everything else is bland.

The MC is an autistic mecha girl suffering from PTSD trying to understand emotions, while its not a bad concept, she sure is annoying and cant really understand the most basic human interaction, like how the fuck is she like that after almost 20 years and dont tell me because "muuh military regime", even then soldiers form bonds, build camaraderie and try to have fun when not in combat as to make the best out of a bad situation.

While the anime is not groundbreaking or a masterpiece, I hope they expand on things and build up on the lackluster first episode because it has promise and I hope KyoAni delivers.

Also they need to tone down on the fucking filters, makes the pretty art look clouded and muddy.


 No.780867

>>780625

Netflix only bought the streaming rights for VEG.

That's not different from what Amazon or CR doing.

Amazon has worldwide streaming rights for Noitamina.

>apparently they had something to do with the new Devilman anime as well?

They almost entirely funded it, and have exclusive rights for it.

In this case they didn't just buy a licencse like for VEG, but were actually involved in the production process. It's of note that Netflix generally allows their creators lots of creative freedom, but I am still concerned with this.

This is different than what Amazon does (buying rights), or CR(buying rights, and in some cases partially funding an anime).

Netflix did almost all of the funding, and they have immense influence over the creative process, even if they generally don't make use of this, it's still dangerous.


 No.780881

>>780637

Legit shit you mean.


 No.780883

>>780867

Netflix is on the production committee. Check the credits.


 No.781172

>>780859

I'm glad the bottom lip thing for girls is shrinking. Just two years ago it was common to have one fat lip down there.


 No.781268

To be honest the premise seems somewhat interesting but the directing is awful. The episode is padded with a lot of pointless scenes, the tone is inconsistent, and the characterisation is off. It's an overproduced melodrama.


 No.781366

>>780867

>Netflix generally allows their creators lots of creative freedom

EA also uses that argument before bleeding studios dry.

>"Come to us and have bigger budget and more creative freedom"

>"What do you mean you want to add this? This is not publishers approved, remove it".

I wouldn't be surprised if netflix does the same thing.


 No.781367

>>781366

I think the main difference between EA and netflix would be that I think games are more expensive to make than TV material. So I could imagine netflix feeling less pressured to streamline its products.

Games are more about the currently trending top 10. TV is more about having a wide range of options, filling every niche.

I might be completely wrong with this.


 No.781371

The retard probably doesn't even realise this is Netflix trying to subvert anime and bankrupt Japanese studios.

It's the first step, "partnership", "funding", "sponsorship".

Just look what China did with manufacturing and industrial espionage.

It's a cultural war and Netflix knows this, the Japanese still make things they don't approve of as competition and they want to change that.

Don't forget that the founder of Netflix has Sigmund Freud and Edward Bernays is his family tree.


 No.781675

First episode was so cringe. It reminded me of Kyoukai no Kanata and all the fake as fuck "moe" attempts in that one.

>KnK: look at my cute huge glasses, look at how clumsy I am, oh no I need money, please love me aren't I cute?

>VEG: look at my lavish blonde hair, look at how autistic I am, nom-nom my hands can't feel so I have to use my mouth like a baby, please love me aren't I cute?


 No.781689

>>779587

>Yeah the worldbuilding in this show has been almost non-existent to start

What little is there is also pretty inconsistent, even for a steam-punk-ish setting. Advanced prosthetics in a world where you still have illiterate farmers? Gas-lamps in the streets but electric lighting indoors? I don't think anyone really thought any of this stuff through.


 No.781697

>>779887

Even worse, why even bother detailing it if it's going to get some pixelated dick tier filter?


 No.781712

The first episode was so unbelievable boring, why does anyone want to watch this?


 No.781717

>>780883

I did, and they aren't on the committee.

The committee is:

Kyoto Animation

Ponny Cannyon

ABC Animation

Lantis

Rakuonsha

>>781366

Anime production & funding are completely different form Western game development.

To my knowledge Electronic Arts prefers to purchase companies, and not just use them as contractors.

>>781367

There are 2 cases with Netflix.

Case 1, they are just buying streaming rights and have no impact on the production.

Case 2, they fund an anime almost entirely on their own, and have a large influence on the production.

While it is true, that most content creators say that Netflix gives them complete creative freedom, it's still dangerous that a Western company has that much influence in an anime production.

Then there's Amazon and Crunchyroll. Amazon is just purchasing streaming rights, but clearly wants to become the number 1 anime streaming site in Japan.

Crunchyroll is buying streaming rights for the West, but since 2017 they are also directly involved in funding many anime (Kemono Friends, Yuru Camp, Isekai Shokudō, Yōkoso Jitsuryoku Shijō Shugi no Kyōshitsu e, Centaur no Nayami, etc.). But differently from Netflix case 2, Crunchyroll is just part of the committee and has heavily limited influence on the production.


 No.781724

>>781717

They're not listed under the usual committee credits, but they get an "in collaboration with Netflix" credit. Also, KyoAni uploaded foreign language versions of the theme song on their channel and that seems like an odd thing to do if Netflix is merely a licensor.

>>781712

>why does anyone want to watch this?

It looks pretty. Aside for the milky colours that is.


 No.781740

>>781724

>They're not listed under the usual committee credits

That means they aren't on the committee.

>"in collaboration with Netflix

Pretty sure the credit was "in association with Netflix".

It isn't weird for them to be credited, when they are the Japanese streaming site, and do the dubs + the international distribution.

>Also, KyoAni uploaded foreign language versions of the theme song on their channel and that seems like an odd thing to do if Netflix is merely a licensor.

Why is this an odd thing? It's not rare that the head of the production committee publishes openings,endings and previews on their Youtube channel.

There's also the fact that Violet Evergarden has aimed from the start to be an internationally appealing work.


 No.781754

>>781740

>That means they aren't on the committee.

That's arguing semantics. The salient point is that they partially financed the series.

>It isn't weird for them to be credited

It would be, if they were merely a licensor.

>There's also the fact that Violet Evergarden has aimed from the start to be an internationally appealing work.

Which also hints to an early association/collaboration to an international distributor (in this case Netflix).


 No.781783

>>781754

>That's arguing semantics.

No it isn't. The production committee credit is meant for the financers. The companies credited there, are the ones that funded the anime.

Netflix isn't credited there, they aren't credited as a financer.

An anime is always funded by the production committee, Netflix isn't on the committee.

Meaning they didn't finance Violet Evergarden.

>Which also hints to an early association/collaboration to an international distributor (in this case Netflix).

No, it doesn't. A production committee member always holds the international rights, and has interest in the work being promoted internationally.

In Violet Evergardens case, it's likely that either Pony Canyon or ABC Animation has the international rights.

Netflix just bought the license from them.


 No.781788

>>781783

I think you're wrong/reaching but since neither of us actually has access to what goes on behind the scenes and we're only speculating, I'll just drop the subject.


 No.781961

>so many posts that are barely related to the anime

>the ones that are about it are mostly lukewarm

This is one of the most disappointing releases in years isn't it? What was the hype all about anyway?


 No.781973

>>781961

Honestly, KyoAni should keep making K-On forever. I'd watch that.


 No.781993

File: 82d649ac2bbfac8⋯.jpg (135.23 KB, 2000x2579, 2000:2579, Anime Production Committee….jpg)

>>781788

>neither of us actually has access to what goes on behind the scenes and we're only speculating,

How the production committee system works is public knowledge.

There's nothing speculative about it, it's just plain facts.

From the production committee section of a Harvard paper on the anime industry (page 23-25) http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/09-114_02065969-dad8-4f08-b2ea-8212ba46fb74.pdf

>The production committee funds the anime projects and shares revenues and profits from the investments.

>Each member of the committee makes an investment and in exchange receives: (a) a share of the copyrights (and the associated licensing revenues) linked to the anime in proportion to the initial investment;

>and (b) the right to distribute the resulting content through the particular member’s channel—broadcasting right for TV stations, distribution right of videos/DVDs for video/DVD publishers.

>All committee members contribute to some part of the value chain, but TV stations often lead the committee because television is the primary distribution channel.

Articles explaining what a production committtee does:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05 (Production Committee Paragraph)

https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/05/02/what-is-an-animes-production-committee/

>I think you're wrong/reaching

Where am I reaching?

>>780883

Your argument is that Netflix in on the production committtee, even though they aren't credited as a member of the production committee.

Thas's like saying a Netflix employee directed the anime, because it's "in association with Netflix".

The "in association with Netflix" credit has nothing to do with the production committee. It's a completely different credit.

Violet Evergarden production committee credits:

製作:ヴァイオレット・エヴァーガーデン製作委員会

京都アニメーション

ポニーキャニオン

ABCアニメーション

ランティス

楽音舎

It boils down to the fact, that the credits need to be wrong for Netflix to be on the committee.

Perhaps they were a secondary sponsor, who bought the streaming rights, but the fact remains that Netflix wasn't on the committee and didn't have any direct creative influence on Violet Evergarden.


 No.782066

>>781993

Licensors don't get credits on the series anon. Whatever its role with the making of the anime was, it was not that of a mere licensor.


 No.782115

>>781993

>a Harvard paper on the anime industry

What the fuck


 No.782295

>>779617

>I find it quite weird that the captial of a country named Leidenschaft (passion) is named Leiden (suffering).

Suffering is at the heart of passion, anon. Why is that weird?


 No.782296

>>779858

>KyoAni is funded by Yakuza.

Please give sources. I would love it if true.


 No.782298

File: 619a94003111f9c⋯.jpg (258.71 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0006.jpg)

>>779911

>The weirdly advanced post-war world could be interesting, if they actually dealt with it, which they don't seem to be too intent on doing.

I was thinking the same. Seeing the cannons covered in wild growth really got to me. I hope we see more post-war stuff in the atmosphere and plot, and it's not just a backdrop for the characters.


 No.782299

>>780637

Fuck you. Read the manga first.


 No.782302

>>782299

>>780881

The anime was alright, if it had really been as shit as you think the thread wouldn't have even gone beyond bump limit.


 No.782316

>>781371

Sounds like Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.


 No.782361

Finished first episode. I guess it's a cute premise. Hopefully they tone down the melodrama and kick JJ Abrams off the project, that lens flare is annoying. Ruins a good art style.


 No.782371

>>782298

Don't hold your breath over it.


 No.782592

Episode two is out.

God this show's so boring. They had a chance to make it fun with the socialite lady and the letter, but Violet fucks up in the completely predictable way instead of something cute.

Meh, probably wont make it past 3rd.


 No.782625

>>782361

>and kick JJ Abrams off the project, that lens flare is annoying. Ruins a good art style.

This is my number one complaint about this anime. The filters are terrible.


 No.782630

>>782361

>>782625

Same Jew Jew Abhrams who made Star Trek Reboot and Star Wars SJW 7 & 8 is in the project?


 No.782648

>>782630

Yeah, he is.


 No.782691

>>782630

That's the one. I think ep2 was a bit better onthat front.


 No.782742

File: 50a5c4d0ff28075⋯.png (266.26 KB, 1058x1571, 1058:1571, 50a5c4d0ff28075cf09523d5f2….png)

Asenshi 1080 subs will be one day late, as usual.

>>782648

Nice shitposting, faggot.


 No.782847

File: f75a2d0eb0be16f⋯.jpg (76.53 KB, 1000x720, 25:18, __katyusha_and_nonna_girls….jpg)

When the first episode dropped I downloaded it from HS and immediately noticed a grey tinge to the image throughout the file. I assumed that they fucked up some settings in the rip and that there was gonna be a v2 at some point. It's kinda like when you mismatch the HDMI black level settings between your TV to the source. I deleted it and forgot about it.

Coming back to it now there's so much drama about the look of the show. Apparently it's believed that that grey desaturation was done on purpose. Every nigger is talking about filters, aesthetic, directorial intent but I still genuinely think that at some point in the chain between studio to netflix to ripped file somebody's just fucked up. Does anybody have any concrete info on this or is it all just autistic shitposting?


 No.782853

>>782625

>This is my number one complaint about this anime.

Sounds like a pretty minor thing to complain about. Especially when it has so many much bigger problems, like garbage characterisation.


 No.782855

>>782847

The lens flare shit is on purpose. KyoAni does it constantly, just necer this much.


 No.782857

>>782855

never*


 No.782858

>>782847

The anime looks like that on purpose. Either Ishidate or someone else at KyoAni has a boner for the washed out look. The Liz and the Blue Bird movie seems to look very milky as well.

I still don't get why this got so many people upset though. It's nowhere near being the biggest problem of the anime. My guess is that people don't like other shit but they aren't articulate enough to express what it is about this anime that rubs them off, and the "filters" thing was a low hanging fruit that anyone could grab and say "that's it, this is what bugs me".


 No.782868

File: 518f1310dd406f6⋯.jpg (847.41 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….jpg)

I wonder where they are going with this story.

They introduced some other kinds of plots/drama that hopefully won't be complete trash, also cutest girl.


 No.782873

File: ee9f122aef1aacd⋯.jpg (164.23 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0019.jpg)

File: d5f0e9b0f48e95a⋯.jpg (211.65 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0018.jpg)

File: 86af5dd0357e94f⋯.jpg (210.96 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0021.jpg)

File: b67e1533da21273⋯.jpg (183.78 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0020.jpg)

Check out this cute nerd!

>>782868

It's too early to tell what they have in mind. I think that at this stage the only development that is certain to happen is Violet's unavoidable zetsubou once she discovers that the major is currently resting in pieces. Actually wondering if they'll drag/build-up the reveal until the end and use that as the punchline to the story. Hopefully not.


 No.782877

They could put this under the dictionary definition of "pretentious". Everything is so played up, that serious tone, fancy art with lots of details, sad violin playing the entire time, and then the peak of the episode is

>hello I have assburgers:DDDD

And it's for the second time, too.


 No.782878

>>782877

This seems better as an OVA instead of a full series to me.


 No.782885

>>782877

I don't think any of those characteristics you mentioned serve to express "unwarranted importance" on their own, nor are any of them negative qualities.

I think that calling this show pretentious is indicative of it not lining up to whatever high expectations you might have.


 No.782894

>>782878

Shorter runtime could've fixed some of the problems, but I guess we'll just have to see how long they drag this out.

>>782885

>I don't think any of those characteristics you mentioned serve to express "unwarranted importance" on their own, nor are any of them negative qualities.

No, it's specifically combined together that they express unwarranted importance. It's like going to the fanciest restaurant in town, ordering the Chef's special, and getting some Tesco-bought regular cooked sausages on a gold-lined plate. It's not dogshit, but surely it's not what they should be serving at a high-end restaurant. Likewise, if you have such a mediocre story, you really shouldn't bother going completely out of your way to touch it up and make it look like this is the best drama of the decade. That scene in particular had a massive disconnect between how seriously it was presented and how seriously it was possible to take it.


 No.782900

>Likewise, if you have such a mediocre story, you really shouldn't bother going completely out of your way to touch it up and make it look like this is the best drama of the decade.

Admittedly, I think the main reason why I'm watching this show is because it looks pretty and Violet (and now also the nerd) is gorgeous. I wonder if I'd even have picked it up otherwise. So you do have a good point.


 No.782906

>>782894

One of the thoughts which popped into my mind while watching the second episode was "is this the anime equivalent of Oscarbait?", what with a standard premise designed to tug your heartstrings being dressed up in high production value to make it seem worthwhile and josei-esque male characters with a female MC in order to attract the female audience. Like you can't help but think that with the high quality animation and background art and down-to-earth story and strong character focus that there surely must be more to this anime, because those aforementioned things are all signs of something unique, and that's how people get suckered in. I have no idea why KyoAni went so far with this anime adaptation in particular, though it seems to be paying off... critically at least.

I don't particularly hate Evergarden, though it doesn't really make me feel anything either. I'm more enamored by the setting, which reminds me of my old home in Croatia, so it's unintentional nostalgia which somehow keeps me hooked. The exterior look of Leiden is more Mediterranean, but the interiors rather hint towards Victorian-era British designs, leading me to believe that KyoAni used British and Dutch colonies in Southern-East Asia as inspiration.


 No.782922

>>782873

>the major is currently resting in pieces

I find this very unlikely. This is the kind of cheesy melodrama where he'll probably show up at the end of the series, and they'll explain that he was interned in some military hospital all along. Hodgins was way too ambiguous about whether he is dead or not at the end of episode 2, and he was also pretty avoidant about it in the first.

It's too on the nose. They're trying a "is he dead or not" angle, but knowing this studio, the latter is far more likely.


 No.782924

>>782906

>KyoAni used British and Dutch colonies in Southern-East Asia as inspiration.

Something was bothering me about how fake/colonial the setting is, and I think this might be it.


 No.782944

>>782922

I think Hodgins really believes he is dead. He's not trying to be cagey, he just doesn't want to talk about his dead friend, especially not to Violet whose whole world is Major Gilbert. However, I would not be surprised to see him return at a convenient later date for cheap dramatic effect.


 No.782960

File: 3da7bede5ff94db⋯.png (125.81 KB, 856x335, 856:335, so you wrote some bullshit….png)

>>782906

>is this the anime equivalent of Oscarbait?

That's the perfect way to put it, I think. It's not unique, either. I think this kind of anime is more of a plague than isekai, because isekai is just dumb entertainment for dumb kids. This kind of thing actually takes talent and wastes it.


 No.782985

>>782906

>it seems to be paying off... critically at least.

How do you mean?


 No.783010

>>782985

People love to praise this kind of crap because it makes them look smart.

This is part of the definition of "oscarbait".


 No.783018

>>783010

But are they actually praising it? Shitty forum posts, ANN garbo or like, Japanese reviewers if such a thing exists.


 No.783126

>>783018

The MAL rating is 8.66, which is really high, most likely the highest out of everything currently airing. Yuru Camp is at 7.7, Sora yori is about the same.


 No.783195

>>783126

That's high octane shit taste but what does one expect of MAL.


 No.783299

>>783018

>>783126

Most Western reviewers praise it.

I don't know about Japanese reviewers, but it's median Japanese Amazon rank is 185 and it's current rank is 160, which is decent but I wouldn't call Evergarden a hit.

Yuru Camp is currently 28, and will likely heavily outsell Violet Evergarden.

SoraBasho is 211, with an median rank of 538.

Yuru Camp's median rank doesn't matter, because the BD was ready for preorder a month before the anime aired


 No.783436

>>783299

>SoraBasho is 211

Nips and their shit taste again. How can anyone like this overproduced soap opera more than a fun adventure story with cute girls like SoraBasho is beyond me.


 No.783442

>>783436

Probably because it's kyoani.


 No.783446

File: d43a22545798efc⋯.jpg (34.33 KB, 700x480, 35:24, Yuru Camp ranking 20 Jan ….jpg)

File: b4d3ac5407800af⋯.jpg (32.87 KB, 700x480, 35:24, SoraBasho ranking 1000 Jan….jpg)

File: a48f742e7f647fe⋯.jpg (32.54 KB, 700x480, 35:24, Evergarden ranking 1000 Ja….jpg)

>>783436

I believe that SoraBasho will outsell Violet Evergarden.

SoraBasho is an original, and people will be more skeptical to preorder it.

It's ranking is improving with each episode.

Violet Evergarden profits from Kyoani fans, and had a big marketing campaign.

There's almost no Japanese anime fan who didn't watch Violet Evergarden's first episode.

The current ranking is a gigantic disappointment for Kyoani.

The graphs show the ranking for the last 30 days, limited to rank 1000.


 No.783485

>>783446

Sorabasho surge


 No.783489

>>783485

Yori Moi AOTS


 No.783501

File: f975bdbb54a7650⋯.png (307.74 KB, 476x358, 238:179, f975bdbb54a76502d8688dfb14….png)

>>783446

It must be nice being the owner of a campsite in Japan right about now.


 No.783509

>>783436

>>783446

Yeah, incredible amount of advertising, production values, and just basically hype for Violet, yet it still doesn't manage to dominate originals or good SoLs.

KyoAni's master plan to use older and older looking females doesn't seem to work, just yet.


 No.783510

>>783509

>Bashes the aesthetics, which is gorgeous and the only reason to watch it in the first place

>Not the shallow and boring as fuck everything else

Tryhard, no one takes you seriously.


 No.783514

>>783510

>Bashes the aesthetics

I bash whatever I hate about it. There's no point in one more person mentioning the horrible filter hell anyways.


 No.783595

File: fd86c4c46639153⋯.jpg (168.84 KB, 457x381, 457:381, Miku disgusting.jpg)

>>783510

>which is gorgeous

Violet の Milky Filters looks bad.

I don't give a damn about the detail, when everything is below a horrible filter which makes my eyes hurt.

Also your misuse of greentext is disgusting.


 No.783796

>>783595

It's not just the Milky spray all over the screen either. The directing is so damn bland. I don't even know how to describe it. Everything looks like an extremely flat, by-the-numbers TV anime scene, except the character art is very detailed. A comparison that is close at hand is the 1980s and its obsession with shading. This is kinda like that. We always get shots of character A, then character B, then something pretty inside the room, but it never builds up into anything meaningful. It's like I'm watching someone's photo album in video format, to which somewhere along the line someone decided to add some story.

Honestly, this is in my top 5 worst KyoAni anime ever, down there with Phantom World, Kyoukai no Kanata, Air and Munto.


 No.783833

>>783446

VEG seems to be stabilising in the mid 100s.


 No.784124

>>783446

>>783833

Sorry for the newfag question but where do you get this data from?


 No.784372


 No.784385

File: a05655958809334⋯.png (151.02 KB, 599x355, 599:355, a056559588093345f76f875df1….png)

>choices for subs are cancer-gattai or Netflix dub transcript

A-at least the show isn't very interesting so far.


 No.784392

>>784385

The Asenshi subs aren't just cancer, they're rewriting the script trying to "fix" the dialogue when it's wonky even in Japanese (scene between Cattleya and Hodgins being a good example).


 No.784397

>>784392

Liberal subbing was a mistake. At least it's yet another reason to just learn Japanese already.


 No.784398

>>783509

>KyoAni's master plan to use older and older looking females

Are you just one person or is there some sort of IRC channel for you guys?


 No.784599

>>784398

What are you talking about? While I don't agree with his complaint about mature vixens in KyoAni anime, I am also left largely unimpressed by VEG (as I already said upthread). I should think this is a pretty common opinion, since I've yet to see anyone say anything good about it that isn't obvious hyperbole/bait.


 No.784862

File: bfc8bfd37826ce6⋯.png (165.38 KB, 409x379, 409:379, Old Man And The Sandwich -….png)

I made this reaction image, but now I am not sure how to use it.

What emotion is this face trying to convey?


 No.784863

>>784385

>>784392

What exactly is wrong with Asenshi?


 No.784865

>>784599

>mature vixens in KyoAni anime

Just kill yourself already, attention whore.


 No.784871

>>784862

The pleasure of absorbing nutrients through your beard.


 No.785327

File: af178bbfc618233⋯.jpg (21.52 KB, 229x173, 229:173, 1350858436096.jpg)


 No.785331

https://nyaa.si/view/999611

Someone made a alternative sub with honorifics for aenshi but ime /tech/ retarded and don't know how to use it. I am using MPVio. Help?


 No.785333

>>785331

Holy shit. Just rename the video and subtitle with the same name and the player will recognize it or make it available to choose. You can always manually load subtitles from the player also.

But hey, MPV is fucking gay regarding options, so I'm talking about a good player here, such as MPC-HC.

Pray that your video isn't hardsubbed also.


 No.785334

>>784862

I'm sure you'll figure it out once you have a need for it, and it is long lost in a folder, somewhere.

Maybe something like silent disappointment? Bewilderment?


 No.785336

>>785333

>Pray that your video isn't hardsubbed also.

On a 2018 release?


 No.785338

File: 6c134b049635ce3⋯.jpg (16.3 KB, 352x264, 4:3, 3e11eaf6b97a8e41c6e940c74e….jpg)

>>785333

>just rename the video and subtitle with the same name and the player will recognize it or make it available to choose

Holy shit that was fucking easier than I thought. Arigato Trips-sama!


 No.785339

>>785331

Strangely enough, dragging and dropping should be your first option since it's the easiest.

Also, what is the point of subs that say "Itadakimasu" when you can clearly hear the character say it? Personally I wish fansubbers would just literally translate it instead of making up their own bullshit like "LET'S CHOW DOWN!"


 No.785342

>>785339

>Personally I wish fansubbers would just literally translate it instead of making up their own bullshit like "LET'S CHOW DOWN!"

What would you translate it as? "Rub a dub dub thanks for the grub"


 No.785348

File: 9ca7ee43c654e1b⋯.jpg (126.61 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0001.jpg)

>>785339

Its just a preference thing anon. I like it when certain words, especially honorifics, are left as is as they express a relationship or meaning that I feel is not explained as well when translated.


 No.785354

>>785339

There's no literal translation for Itadakimasu.

>Also, what is the point of subs that say "Itadakimasu" when you can clearly hear the character say it?

Consistency.


 No.785358

>>785354

>Itadakimasu

>No translation

I understand the honorifics being left untranslated, but Itadakimasu has a translation and you should kill yourself.


 No.785366

>>785358

>Itadakimasu has a translation

No, it really doesn't. There's no word which conveys the same meaning in English, as Itadakimasu does in Japanese. The translations are all just approximations.

>you should kill yourself.

What high quality comment! Did you just come from >>>/v/?

I know you guys love your localized games, but /a/ generally wants translations to stay close to the original.


 No.785373

>>785366

>No word for Itadakimasu

It can be translated as a phrase. Actually, that word is a phrase, just like you have words in german which are a fusion of many words.

>Getting this triggered

I don't know anything about /v/, I don't go there. Maybe you yourself should go there instead if you know so much about them. And don't forget to kill yourself there too.


 No.785379

>>785373

>It can be translated as a phrase

Again, all Itadakimasu translations are just approximations.

But, if you're such a big expert you can provide us with your literal translation.

> Maybe you yourself should go there instead if you know so much about them

There are enough confirmed /v/ermin on /ameta/, that it's easy to recognize them, even if you don't visit /v/.

Also we should stop with this retarded offtopic translation discussion.


 No.785384

>>785379

>Approximations

It literally means "we humbly and gratefully receive this food, no matter what food".

For translators, they could just use: "we're grateful for the food" or even "our/my gratitude".


 No.785491

>>785336

What happened to deadfish?


 No.785499

File: 8460f3d82e92155⋯.webm (3.38 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, sensei.webm)

File: 6083bdc95f7270c⋯.png (3.35 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….png)

Sensei set a pretty high bar that it didn't really seem like Violet cleared to earn her pin. Given her past performance in letter drafting, I don't know how she was deemed competent based only on one short letter that managed to not sound like a military report.

I only noticed when rewatching with subs that Luculia took her hat off when she went up the tower with Violet. Nice touch. I kinda wish the show was about her.


 No.785514

>>785384

This is also what I regarded as a literal translation. Or close to one. And I was just saying in >>785339 that I'd much prefer something like this over something like this >>785342


 No.785549

>>785514

>>785384

Literal translations are not always good translations. In fact they are more often bad than good. However subtitles are not supposed to be standalone products. The very point of subtitles over dubs is that subtitles are closer to the original. In that context literal translations make sense, so long as even an inexperienced audience can figure out what's going on.

Having subtitles say itadakimasu is shit precisely because that only targets people who are already familiar with the phrase. It's unneeded for the target audience and useless for everybody else.

However I still can't decide whether I like subtitles to say (the equivalent of): "We're grateful for the food". I am not sure that the Japanese mean it that way, or if they aren't actually just reciting a line that is supposed to be said before eating a meal. And in that case it really would be just itadakimasu without a subtitle (and possibly require a TL note if you want to be beginner-friendly).

I'm rambling.


 No.785694

File: e200f1c45d0b09c⋯.jpg (188.23 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, two cutes.jpg)

>>785499

>Luculia took her hat off when she went up the tower with Violet

Oh, neat! Didn't notice that.

I agree that it was completely ridiculous that she would be accepted after that one simple letter. Sensei probably pity passed her because she was flawless in every other skill category.


 No.785715

>>785694

>>785499

She should have had a couple more feels trips with other people in 2 more episodes before getting the pin from teacher. That was too short and direct of a letter. Someone who paraphrases emotionally charged messages for a living should be able to really give it flourish and use all the tools in the language.

BUT it's better than the last two episodes so whatever. I was wondering how they'd keep this show going since Violet and her history doesn't have any depth. But if it's her interacting with a new person and their sob story every episode and slowly getting better at her job, I'll keep watching. For every character but her.


 No.785780

Mecha saber is pretty boring. I'd rather follow the new girl's family problems. And it doesn't feel like she earned that pin. Guess the teacher really wanted to pass her since she was perfect at everything else and used the smallest improvement to do so. Looks like short direct letters going to be her special skill.


 No.785824

>First two eps

Nothing really exciting, just setup and buildup

>e03

I was fucking crying for the entire last half, what the fuck.


 No.785867

File: f0df7af598df46d⋯.jpg (722.65 KB, 1050x1532, 525:766, __chitanda_eru_and_oreki_h….jpg)

>>781675

Don't be sad that it's gone, be happy that it happened


 No.785905

>>784862

The feeling of being devoured by filters but accepting your demise


 No.785920

>>785824

>I was fucking crying for the entire last half, what the fuck.

Go see a psychiatrist. You might be suffering from depression.


 No.785975

File: 099ebb5c01f09ac⋯.jpg (899.18 KB, 2563x4096, 2563:4096, 52db031b3e0c4d6b1e31905133….jpg)

>>779507

>>779495

Compare this official art from mangaka to anything KyoAni did with Kanna.

Yeah, that's why KyoAni is anti-lolicon studio.


 No.786207

>>785499

bumped her up to a passing D- grade


 No.788535

File: 644846d1169173c⋯.jpg (32.3 KB, 600x683, 600:683, assb.jpg)

>fourth episode

>it's a tomboy episode

I didn't care much for the first three episodes, but I liked this one. Mecha Saber is boring unless partnered up with someone else, her and Iris were a good fit. Some things hit me in the feels being a sperg myself and familiar with these kind of situations.

Also requesting a Baioretto edit for pic related


 No.788678

File: a92367afb161921⋯.png (1.17 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….png)

File: 4597356050a3849⋯.png (58.31 KB, 670x54, 335:27, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….png)

200 characters per minute is just 40 words per minute, but the typing sounded more like a good and steady 70. That really ticks me off but what really ticks me off even more is the idea of 40 words per minute being a good typing speed.


 No.788698

>>788678

Same here, I have anywhere between 90 and 120 WPM, depending on how fresh I am.


 No.788727

>>788698

Maybe their writers are so shit that's the peak speed they can handle.


 No.788728

>>788678

>>788698

The slow speed is probably down to the mechanical limitations of the typewriter, despite the fact that they are using qwerty.


 No.788734

>>788678

The goal is long-term typing. I can type relatively quickly, but if I'm gonna be doing it all day long I want a slower but steady pace, kind of like running outside.


 No.788735

>>788678

I've used one of the very old typewriters similar to the ones they use in this show. The huge actuation depth and resistance on the keys really does slow you down quite a bit and would be even worse for a rookie typist. Even the later mechanical ones have huge improvements over the older style typewriters that can improve your speed quite a bit.


 No.788762

>>788728

Yeah, I was thinking about that too, but still 40 wpm should never be depicted as fast in any context.


 No.789149

File: 43e19776ee33fee⋯.jpg (80.17 KB, 946x1080, 473:540, mpv-shot0044.jpg)

File: 8c42266f0f177c3⋯.jpg (73.04 KB, 865x1080, 173:216, mpv-shot0043.jpg)

File: e48cda08971a8a6⋯.jpg (182.08 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0045.jpg)

File: 1e9ac87296c4f0d⋯.jpg (479.53 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0042.jpg)

File: 43b941991975dde⋯.jpg (199.08 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0041.jpg)

Well, might as well go ahead and be the only one talking about this week's episode:

It was uncomfortable and tedious to watch.

In the span of just four episodes Violet has already managed to achieve the status of "annoying and obnoxious cunt." Which is pretty bad going forward since her whole "autistic deadpan sexbot" thing is pretty much what the entire show is based around.

Also, shouldn't they have maybe started explaining her origin or some shit by now? Instead of developing some shitty side-character with the only development to Violet being that at the end of it all she realized "You have to be brave to say 'I love you?'" WHAT KIND OF FUCKING BULLSHIT WAS THAT? I wasted 23 fucking minutes just for them to tell me that the major was brave for saying "I love you?"If the major was brave he would have chained Violet up in his sex dungeon and fucked the living shit out of her daily, while feeding her out of a dog bowl and whipping her until she passes out so she never forgets that she only exists to obey her master.

I want to drop it but the pretty drawings keep me coming back like the sucker I am.


 No.789161

>>789149

Ishidate was a mistake. Episode 3 was the only passable one so far, and even it had some glaring problems. The curtsy scene in this episode made me cringe, literally.


 No.789170

Violet is coarsely unsociable and unemotional. I don't know how many more B-plots we'll have to sit through before Violet has some actual development and her character changes, but I probably won't be sticking around long enough to find out.


 No.789253

>>789161

>curtsy scene

Yeah, it was bad. With the gust of wind and all that shit.

But oh my god isn't she totally amazing and a real human bean now that she didn't do a military salute?!


 No.789297

I don't mind Violet being an autist, it's somewhat relatable, but if they're not going to expand more on the past then it's going to pile on even more problems. The show is priming itself to be an exploration of her past and by the pacing it's probably not going to reveal anything. It would probably be better off to have it as a slice of life with Violet as the mechanism or vehicle for emotional or relationship conflict resolution. Like kino no tabi I guess. That's pretty much what the past 2 episodes have been about anyway so constantly teasing her past as the main source of narrative locomotion isn't sitting well. Seems like it doesn't know what it wants to be.

It's a real shame because I kinda had hopes for this but it's all just window dressing at this point. Episode 3 was breddy gud though and it raised my hopes, only to be reduced by episode 4.


 No.789300

>>789170

>Show is named after the main character

>It's not about the main character

It's like potassium.


 No.789357

She's so damn autistic.

When are we going to get more gritty war scenes


 No.789380

The only reason I watch this is the very pretty eyes and animation, despite the filters. And maybe a little bit to see just how wide the gap between the hype and the reality can get. I want to like it, though. I feel bad for the animators that put so much effort into it for it to be this boring.


 No.789477

File: 85ddd13ea5cf9ed⋯.jpg (94.53 KB, 793x825, 793:825, CnAgoK4UcAEXq92.jpg)

>>789380

>I feel bad for the animators that put so much effort into it for it to be this boring.

That describes almost all Kyoani shows.


 No.791750

File: 3e98613da4ee195⋯.png (3.75 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….png)

This is like translating "Itadakimasu" into "bon appétit", it makes no god damn sense unless I'm french/retarded. In this case, a fucking jew.


 No.791790

I thought episode 5 was decent.


 No.791832

>>789253

Holy crap. The same happened with episode 4 with Iris' family and NOW I get why the courtsy was such a big deal. I don't know if that says more about the show or me.


 No.792016

This episode was fine, but it feels like there should've been like half a season of progression preceding it

>cannot write letters for shit

>keeps doing dumb autistic things

>now suddenly she not only writes perfect letters with no guidance, but goes even beyond that

Then again, these episodes where the focus is on the self-contained story will probably be better than the first 4, with all of those having the same punchline.


 No.792041

>>792016

I think it's because all of this is apparently anime original, as I have heard and it's about seeing violet as your daughter-fu or some shit.


 No.792046

>>792041

>seeing violet as your daughter-fu

If that was the goal they truly fucked up beyond measure, I was taking her as an adult woman the entire time. She has absolutely nothing about her to suggest that she's junior high age, nevermind daughter material.


 No.792048

>>792016

Yeah I agree with you completely here, it felt incredibly abrupt that she could just suddenly write perfect letters.

Other than that I really liked it, it was comfy and that's all I really want out of this show.

I hope the next episode has some spicy suffering though.


 No.792274

File: 7c9b7b0854cb780⋯.jpg (157.42 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0141.jpg)

>>792016

>writes perfect letters without any explanation

This show is absolute trash. I HATE IT.

I considered it dropped until they teased me with the possibility of more grim military flashbacks next episode.

>>792046

Yeah, fourteen years old? Like what the fuck man, she looks no where near that young.


 No.792281

File: 00271ae5f6bce06⋯.png (288.89 KB, 540x438, 90:73, ded.png)

>>792274

>Yeah, fourteen years old? Like what the fuck man, she looks no where near that young.

Wouldn't want those sick lolicons pedophiles to get any funny ideas.


 No.792320

File: ae585f13c079fc9⋯.jpg (644.48 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, wedding.jpg)

Nice day for a White Wedding.


 No.792324

>>792274

She's an artificial human. Did she even have a childhood?


 No.792354

File: 1f0ea0a33c3575a⋯.jpg (1.05 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….jpg)

>>792281

Wouldn't it just be easier to says she's twenty or some shit?

>Fourteen year old looks like a fully grown woman

Then how old is tits mcgee over here? Sixteen?


 No.792372

File: 4ecd6e3d43e90ed⋯.jpg (351.53 KB, 700x873, 700:873, 66832670_p0.jpg)

File: c50934ac3b30c10⋯.jpg (396.63 KB, 886x1253, 886:1253, 66757335_p0.jpg)

Also her first outfit with the green dress was infinitely cuter than what she's wearing right now.


 No.793903

File: f835d3a6aeab9f5⋯.png (2.39 MB, 1465x1018, 1465:1018, 2018-02-11 15_38_59-.png)

>>792274

>>792354

I assumed she was late teens early or early twenties. I also thought she was half starved and nearly dying most of her entire life. I guess the colonel just fed her pure estrogen after rescuing her, truly a great man.


 No.794086

>>792016

The transition from ep 4 to 5 was choppy. A pretty big oversight from the directors. Still not a major flaw in my opinion.


 No.795202

File: 69942290b298623⋯.jpg (108.05 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpc-hc64_2018-02-15_21_306….jpg)

>this ending is too ordinary

>we need something dramatic so we can do those wild hair and fabric movement scenes with the fancy backdrop

>just make some shit up, it doesn't matter


 No.795238

>>795202

VEG honestly sucks. I have no idea why I'm still watching. Sheer boredom I guess.

The worst part is that it's so easy to fix the show: cut out Iris and Erica, along with their episode. Those were almost entirely useless.

Extend episode 3 into 2 parts, and instead of having Violet fully graduate at the end, give her some junior certification instead, so she wouldn't be a fully authorised Auto Memories Doll or whatever, but an official journeyman of sorts.

Then, since this episode (6) only requires transcription skills, have it be the 4th one, where Violet is sent to do a transcription job like this as practice (the traveling aspect would also fit her being a journeyman/woman AMD). And extend it into 2 episodes also. The episode felt like it missed a middle arc. It begins and suddenly we're at the end.

And lastly, have episode 5 happen later in the series, after we're shown more jobs Violet did (and eventually her getting her full certificate as a AMD). And also split it into 2 episodes.

And of course, also slightly rewrite episode 1 to accommodate for these changes.

But no, Ishidate does this -- whatever the fuck this series is supposed to be. Most of Violet's development so far has happened off-screen, and almost everything that happens is told, instead of shown to us.


 No.795362

>>792372

>the green dress was infinitely cuter than what she's wearing right now.

True. And she looked very pretty with a ponytail. I don't get why the main characters don't change clothes when the secondary ones do (and often at that).


 No.797591

File: 0a840c41841197c⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 653.17 KB, 430x600, 43:60, blind man meets violet.webm)

This was my first thought when Oscar asked about her arms.


 No.797787

File: 386c240ad008283⋯.png (676.32 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….png)

I absolutely hate it.


 No.797976

File: 5ba624a22be4cf5⋯.jpg (128.1 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0538.jpg)

File: 9a7321975696660⋯.jpg (127.05 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0537.jpg)

>>797787

I really like today episode. She is learning what is emotion and how deal it.


 No.798105

File: 0908da4d8341e7b⋯.jpg (141.64 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0047.jpg)

>>797787

>hire her to type for you

>shows up at your house and moves all your shit

>hides your booze

>acts like a cheeky cunt the whole time

I fucking hate this bitch.


 No.798258

File: 3990dc3d10a9af7⋯.mp4 (482.16 KB, 640x360, 16:9, Break an Egg Step 10.360p.mp4)

>>797976

>>798105

YOU FUCKING DEGENERATES, THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM ANGRY ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT HOW THE WHORE TRY TO CRACK THE EGG, YOU'RE SUPPOSE USE A FLAT SURFACE. NOT THE EDGE OF THE BOWL! YOU GOD DAMN RETARDS.


 No.798478

After the newest episode, 90% sure the major is alive


 No.798482

>>798478

The major is dead you dumb robot cunt. Too bad they didn't replace your brain along with your arms.


 No.798500

>>798482

Yea, but they didn't find his body. Which means the writers can pull the "major actually survived"-card anytime they want.


 No.798503

>>798500

Well, this show is already so fucking terrible I wouldn't even be surprised. Good call anon.


 No.798507

Here I was thinking they finally managed to make a good episode, but no, they're fucking retarded apparently. They could've ended it on the high note of finishing the work and left everyone watching satisfied, but instead they fall back to this shitty overarching plot and ruin the ending just 'cause. They could've put these last 4 minutes into any episode, like all the other, shit ones. It's not like there aren't going to be another 5 fillers after this.


 No.798520

>>798258

But how do you expect an autistic killing machine to understand that?


 No.798628

Violet literally is Saber. This is pure plagiarism.


 No.798748

I would violate her evergarden, if you catch my drift.


 No.798775

>>797976

I thought it was one of the worst. Violet acted so out of character throughout. Too much development in this anime happens off-screen.


 No.799103

>>798628

Saber is literally Agrias. This is pure plagiarism.


 No.799166

>>798258

I've never done it that way. You hut it on the edge so that you break the inner membrane and can easily peel the shell apart.

Violet's likely doing it way too slow and was letting the egg drip through the crack.


 No.799869

Man, I'm glad I actually started watching it. It's pretty much exactly like I imagined it'd be. Good thing I wasn't deterred by the hypekill-train.


 No.799875

>>795238

I think Iris' episode isn't in the light novel.

So far the most egregious thing was her seeing the major's brother and the anime just fucking skipping over it for 2 goddamn episodes.

And we only see the consequences of his words. We don't even see what happens.

The anime has terrible pacing and character progressing for Violet, which considering is what you're suppose to care about in this show, is not a good thing.


 No.799876

>>799869

>people with tastes this shit actually exist on /a/

I mean, you actually put anons from Dragonball threads to shame. Did you get banned from halfchan or something? Why are you here?


 No.799960

File: 387e62a4eccfa46⋯.png (1.06 MB, 1321x740, 1321:740, BEST GIRL.PNG)

File: 3cca682354858e0⋯.png (1.31 MB, 1321x742, 1321:742, edgy.PNG)

File: fbec8d51cc7d53f⋯.png (2.79 MB, 1594x896, 797:448, at last i finally see.PNG)

File: 260d562568306e3⋯.png (1.85 MB, 1594x897, 1594:897, one handed raifu.PNG)

This episode wasn't too bad, but at the end of the day, you can have great action scenes within shitty narratives; also how /fit/ is violet given that she can wield a full-power rifle in one hand and still manage to shoot it.

Luger was quality though


 No.799966

>>799960

Meh. I found the action scenes/whole taking over the fortress part of the episode by far its weakest part. KyoAni can't do action for shit. We already know how this flashback ends since we saw the outcome back in episode 1, so it's boring as fuck to watch. Otherwise, it's one of the better episodes in this series. But that's not saying much.


 No.799991

>>799960

>also how /fit/ is violet given that she can wield a full-power rifle in one hand and still manage to shoot it

Not that /fit/ I have a mosin and it's not all that heavy. Anyone who does any reasonable amount of exercise would be able to do that.


 No.800391

File: 8b558059790e881⋯.jpg (107.55 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, NotSaber sees the sales ch….jpg)

This show is awful. I'm glad its flopping.


 No.801118

>>799960

Yeah I liked this episode, I wish this show was all combat loli.


 No.802409

File: a30183b250b5fbe⋯.png (805.96 KB, 1360x768, 85:48, Screenshot (3346).png)

We finally found out how she lost her arms soft lead? that rifle's single bullet toar her entire arm off?

She finally got over the mayors death.

She's back to work.

That was on episode 9!

There's 14 episodes.

What the fuck do they do now?


 No.802420

>>802409

Create the first PMC and suppress the Gardariki anti-peace fighters. Just kidding, now that Violet's development is pretty much done it will get even more boring.


 No.802470

>>802409

Cement her status as 3DPD?


 No.802590

File: 15ece7009973839⋯.png (1.03 MB, 869x873, 869:873, 15ece700997383996aeb5c7d60….png)

You know, I honestly don't know what to think about KyoAni.

On one had, they made shows like K-On! and Hibike!Euphonium which are some of my all time favorites. I even kind of, sort of, maybe liked Meido Dragon and Koe no Katachi. Well, I actually did like Koe no Katachi, I don't give a fuck. But then shit like this? Violet Evergarden doesn't even remotely feel like it has anything in common with those other shows. It feels like all the employees at KyoAni decided to turn the studio into an opium den while this was getting produced and this is the half-baked shithole of a show with a disconnected narrative that they managed to come up with.


 No.802731

File: 6c71f718ea061d1⋯.jpeg (166.71 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, serveimage.jpeg)

>>802409

>We finally found out how she lost her arms soft lead? that rifle's single bullet toar her entire arm off?

The guy probably used some of those novelty bullets that Taofledermaus reviews. Or he used one of them babby killun assault bullets that he kept in his clipazine


 No.802786

>>802409

>There's 14 episodes.

I honestly thought this was the final episode.


 No.802787

File: 66e078c90833856⋯.jpg (607.53 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….jpg)

File: 1ca1150b99941c6⋯.jpg (729.5 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [Vivid-Asenshi] Violet Eve….jpg)

>>802409

Those kraut 8mm sure packs a punch.

Their potato mashers are also quite potent.


 No.802871

>>802409

Major is alive


 No.802949

File: 5556b7c760689de⋯.jpg (116.37 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0065.jpg)

Why show have some many good points but fail in be a great show? But I like the physiologic progress of Violet. She looks pretty human.

Also, what she is in her world?

>>802409

>soft lead? that rifle's single bullet toar her entire arm off?

I believe a rifle from WWI hit in middle of a "little girl" arm could do this kind damage.

>What the fuck do they do now?

She could start to write pacifist or pro-war letters to newspapers.

>>802787

>Their potato mashers are also quite potent

Like a artillery shell.

>>802871

In our hearts.


 No.803028

>>802409

>What the fuck do they do now?

They did introduce the "anti-peace" rebels, so maybe something with that?


 No.803056

File: d5c61888deb8f22⋯.jpg (208.26 KB, 1024x719, 1024:719, 1024px-FreikorpsBerlinStah….jpg)

>>802949

>>803028

>She could start to write pacifist or pro-war letters to newspapers.

>They did introduce the "anti-peace" rebels

>Violet Evergarden in not-Weimar-Germany joins the not-Freikorps and kills not-Jews and not-Communists because some veteran resembling not-Hitler and his not-Worker's party told her that the not-Jews stabbed not-Germany in the back during the assault on the fort thus killing the Major

Violet "Reich on Time" Evergarden 2 when?

or she becomes not-Rosa Luxemburg instead


 No.803071

File: 09faf64dc54a62b⋯.png (4.76 MB, 3000x2250, 4:3, 9152eb422d980b7128c2e2791a….png)

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File: d1ca5881c1a1896⋯.png (3.65 MB, 1600x5000, 8:25, 62c1590aacf3ec2a74488f192c….png)

File: 4d8cbff6caa08ba⋯.png (2.85 MB, 1600x5000, 8:25, dedf210aada41b1dfdced6cd44….png)


 No.803072

File: 8c195f8c2308326⋯.png (2.75 MB, 1600x5000, 8:25, c90158d60f699db075c9907ef6….png)

File: 65f8ac845a373dd⋯.png (1.58 MB, 3507x2480, 3507:2480, 9d2d195743cfb215f779d106a5….png)


 No.803075

>>803072

>>803071

This is the only good thing to happen since I've started watching this piece of shit show.

Now I can drop it in peace.


 No.803079

>>803075

>since I've started watching this piece of shit show.

You are talking about darling or violet or both?


 No.803377

File: 7c6ff9341123045⋯.jpg (49.35 KB, 704x396, 16:9, 1452340552866.jpg)

>>803079

He is clearly talking about Violet Everboring. Kyoani really outdid themselves making such an awful, uninteresting show.


 No.803398

>>803071

>>803072

The two worst shows this season are both liked by the Chinese?

Why am I not surprised?


 No.803418

>>803398

It's not even the Chinese, these are both the biggest normalfag-baits we've had in some time. I'm sure you've seen that screencap related to Franxx if you haven't, you're better off


 No.803444

File: 539bb7cd9831703⋯.webm (3.37 MB, 800x450, 16:9, [HorribleSubs] Violet Eve….webm)

>Plushy facing at the door

>Violet grabs it and is about to angrily drop it

>Plushy represents not only Violet but past murderer Violet

>Slowly puts it down, now facing her

>Starts strangling herself with those lifeless hands that have let her touch the lives of so many people

>Framing makes it look as if the plushy is doing the strangling

>Would've probably succeeded if not for her damaged right arm

Absolute kinography


 No.804498

File: 7340d5a33fc85e8⋯.png (678.36 KB, 760x712, 95:89, violet eversmug.PNG)

We finally got a smug loli out of this shit.

Post last edited at

 No.804507

>>803398

>Franxx

>worst

There you go forming your tastes around what normalfaggots think again. Putting Franxx in the same boat as this pile of shit is outright retarded on your part, since Franxx is a pretty good show that is fun to watch.

An anime does not become bad by virtue of being over-hyped and popular with normalfags.


 No.804528

>>804498

And it's worth nothing.

>alright everyone, look at this HARDCORE DRAMA, little girls are retarded, and look, we even pulled the VIOLETTO CRIES card!

Kyoani, the leading pioneers of anti-lolicon anime movement, shows once again just how much they can't make a single loli character decent.


 No.804540

If only they put 1% of the effort they spend on dramatizing everything into making a good story in the first place. This time I don't think it took even just 30 seconds to figure out the entire plot of the episode.


 No.804571

>>804507

Franxx is honestly not a very good show, definitely not better than this one.


 No.804574

>>804507

>There you go forming your tastes around what normalfaggots think again

I only watch anime to impress strangers online!


 No.804576

>>804540

What's wrong with the story? I don't see any major flaws.


 No.804599

>>804576

>episode starts

>violet arrives

>befriends character of the week

>writes letter

>cliched backstory / theme moment related to LOVE

>melodrama

>episode ends


 No.804607

>>804599

Your point?


 No.804609

>>804607

It's shit


 No.804703

>>804576

It's ridiculously generic, I'm pretty sure I've seen this episode's plot several times in several different anime. The only one tiny "original" bit in all 20 minutes was the last scene where Violet talks about how she had to cry the entire time.


 No.804729

As somebody who read the LN, I'm not very happy with the order with which they're telling the story. It's all out of wack yo.


 No.804747

It was generic as fuck but it somehow worked for me this time around. I'm weak to stories that shows time passing by so quickly.

Also, the last scene was good. As in, this is the first time we see actual development. But yeah, this whole thing about Violet's character makes it look like it's being broadcast in non-chronological order. Seriously, what's the point?


 No.804874

>>804703

Just because it's been done before doesn't mean it's bad, by this logic everything is bad since it roughly follows the same hero's journey structure. I'm also pretty sure you can't even name 5 other anime with episodes like this one.


 No.804876

>>804747

>As in, this is the first time we see actual development

I think you need to pay more attention or not speedwatch this show if you really think this.


 No.804903

>>804729

Do you mind embellishing on this?


 No.804905

>>804874

>roughly follows

While I do hate formulaic shonenshit, there is a difference. This episode of VEG was utterly predictable, it wasn't roughly following the formula. Plamemo was roughly following these formulas. VEG is the formula itself, we can use this as a golden example of what every respective cliche looks like, because there's not the smallest clue of a unique twist on any of it.

That said, it's only Kyoani making this anime shit as such, the writing in itself is probably like 5/10, average. But then comes Kyoani with their retarded directing, and tries to sell that 5/10 writing as the masterpiece of the century and expects you to have your heart touched a hundred times per episode at least, overplays everything, and thus we arrive to an anime that sucks dick. However, if the story was actually good, instead of being mediocre, then all of Kyoani's efforts would suddenly not be wasted and stop being counterproductive, resulting in a massive improvement. Hence my original comment.


 No.804920

>>804876

Anything that happened before is nothing compared to episode 10. She fucking cried from the inevitability of someone's else death and from the love this person was planning on giving to her daughter decades after she died. She never understood that much, much less cried for someone else's tragedy before.


 No.804955

File: e69a2f889c32dde⋯.jpg (863.48 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [HorribleSubs] Violet Ever….jpg)

>>804920

>much less cried for someone else's tragedy before.

You seriously need to rewatch the whole show again. I'm starting to feel like most criticisms this show has come from idiots with ADHD.


 No.804956

>>804905

This whole post has lots of claims but 0 arguments and the many complains come from subjective points of views and a stupid hatred towards some Japanese animation studio. You need to get rid of that console war mentality of yours before watching this show, your blind dislike towards Kyoani isn't letting you enjoy it.


 No.804962

>>804956

It was a post made under the assumption that it was addressed to someone who's read at least some of the rest of the thread, but since you apparently altogether lack the ability to read with comprehension, that was wrong of me.


 No.804969

>>804962

Your impression is correct. I've read the thread and there's not a single valid argument that doesn't come from a subjective point of view.


 No.804986

>>804956

>your blind dislike towards Kyoani isn't letting you enjoy it

I think the fact that this show is fucking shit is the reason behind him not being able to enjoy it.

You should fuck off back to /v/ where you belong, you giant faggot.


 No.805023

I don't know about all of the hate this show is getting lately, but I think it's doing fine now, certainly much better than how it started out.

Despite seeing pretty much from the get-go what was going to happen in episode 10, it still got to me in the end. I think that's just fine. It's no masterpiece, but I'm not going to look at every predictable story as being worthless.


 No.805040

When the mother mentioned her husband dying in the war, I expected Violet to go MUH GILBERT again, but she didn't. That was the development along with her holding back tears while acting like her usual autistic self.


 No.805930

File: 6b6dea32d7ba600⋯.jpg (2.66 MB, 2402x2433, 2402:2433, Violet-Evergarden__EP09--C….jpg)

>>805023

It's getting a lot of hate because it was hyped to no end, the show itself is one of the best rated, most popular and successful of the season, so in turn it gets its share of shitposters like >>804986


 No.806452

Another great episode, the second part of the season is much better than the first. Subs won't come out until tomorrow, though. Asenshi is short on staff right now.


 No.806453

File: da6bb9ad3e30d3d⋯.webm (270.94 KB, 450x630, 5:7, ann01.webm)

>>805040

I think It was the daughter who said that, and Baioretto flinched a bit but that's about it.


 No.806538

>>779410

Honestly this has to be the most frustrating KyoAni shows I've sat through in a while, even more so than Phantom World. While Phantom World was clearly just going to be forgettable from the outset, VEG has a few interesting ideas, but does nothing with them outside of pretending its saying something way deeper than it really is, or having genuine emotional moments ruined by shitty writing that wastes time on pointless anime-original bullshit whilst forcing the actual important stuff into single episodes, like with ep. 3 and the whole "oh you failed the class but you'll pass anyway cause you wrote two sentences. Also we'll have your friend submit it to the teacher for you because apparently Violet herself is incapable of working towards her own goals and thats somehow suppose to make her a relatable protag". Damn that shit still pissed me off so much, how there are people who say episode 3 was decent is beyond me. Theres also the issue of this show not deciding weather it wants to tell its story through visuals or through exposition dumps, though honestly I'd rule out the former as Ishidate has made it evident he has no clue how to frame shots worth a damn. I'm just glad Yamada seems to know what she's doing for the most part. I just want comfy K-On and Nichijou era KyoAni back dammit, whatever the hell it is there doing now just makes them seem like a higher-budget version of A1 honestly. Trashy teen-oriented light novels are a fucking plague on this medium in every sense.

Also Jesus Christ the threads on halfchan for this show are a fucking disaster. The portion of the KyoAni fanbase that resides there are literally Tumblr-tier. Serves me right for going there I suppose, but still.


 No.806658

File: 61d1e04665ec9de⋯.jpg (872.45 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, [HorribleSubs] Violet Ever….jpg)

>>806538

I'll bait, what interesting ideas does it have, and how is it pretending to say something deeper than it is? Examples, please. What anime original content has been pointless and what important stuff in the novel spawned several chapters? And how is that a detriment to the show itself?

>"oh you failed the class but you'll pass anyway cause you wrote two sentences. Also we'll have your friend submit it to the teacher for you because apparently

It was a short term course, not a master's degree. She was shown to be exceptional in most other areas but that last one. What happened is very plausible.

>Violet herself is incapable of working towards her own goals and that's somehow suppose to make her a relatable protag"

Character development, Violet now WORKS towards there own goals, she isn't a tool anymore, you're talking about Violet from episode 3, when she was still learning to live in peace time society without Gilbert's orders.

>There's also the issue of this show not deciding weather it wants to tell its story through visuals or through exposition dumps

They can use both, how is that a bad thing?

>he has no clue how to frame shots worth a damn

Post some examples of badly framed shots and explain in detail how you would frame it better, please.


 No.806934

This episode was still melodramatic, but that aside it was more or less what VEG should've been. It actually used the setting, it used Violet's character, the director managed to stop himself from creaming over the whole episode with forced sakuga shots. If it wasn't for the fact that this is like the 5th or 6th story where the punchline is that someone died, it could even be called good.


 No.806943

>>806934

Melodrama: a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters and exciting events intended to appeal to the emotions.

What about a soldier fearing for his life and his loved ones crying his death was sensational or exaggerated?


 No.806966

>>806943

All of it really, as if this was the 11th episode of an anime about that soldier and about that family, and his comrades that we've seen hours of dying along with him in a sudden ambush. Especially the scene with them getting ambushed was exaggerated and written with the intention of appealing to emotions as much as possible - not only do you have the young nice guys with sparkly eyes and families to return to dying, begging for their lives to no avail, but also the enemy soldiers are your typical blatant heartless evil fucks that wouldn't think twice about murdering children for their supreme evil cause. The guy's death was also pretty drawn out. Part of the reason for how much scenes were extended might've just been that the LN simply didn't have that much material in it for this chapter though, it's not like they were cutting other things for the sake of the more dramatic parts.


 No.807071

>>806966

You do realize drama is intrinsically trying to appeal to emotions, right? And you still don't seem to get what melodrama actually is... unless you tell me that death doesn't happen in war and that crying over a loved one's death is too over the top.


 No.807089

>>807071

>spell out why a scene is melodramatic and how the characters and events are exaggerated with the intention of appealing to emotions

>"you still don't seem to get what melodrama actually is"

Are you being daft on purpose?


 No.807411

I'm reading the thread and most of the complains seem kinda petty or come from a place of ignorance, like some of the first posts complaining about the worldbuilding after only the first episode. I'm honestly liking the show so far, solid 7.>>807071

>I'm reading the thread and most of the complains seem kinda petty or come from a place of ignorance, like some of the first posts complaining about the worldbuilding after only the first episode. I'm honestly liking the show so far, solid 7.


 No.807412

>>807411

Woah, I don't know what happened to my post.


 No.807555

>>807411

Did the worldbuilding get better, 11 episodes later? I don't think so.


 No.807763

>>807555

It did, I'm not going to infodump what we know now of this world, instead why don't you tell me whatever grievances you had with the worldbuilding in the first episodes and I'll explain or correct you.


 No.807766

>>807763

>fantasy early 1900s setting with some areas of technology being way ahead

>they can make supersoldiers, not only mentally but also physically surpassing anything we'll have by 2050

>they have the technology to create perfectly functional prosthetics that work better than what we'll be able to make in 2050

>literally none of this is ever addressed again, nowhere, it's never relevant to anything and every single time any new part of the world is revealed to us, it's just ordinary early 1900s


 No.807975

File: 5346514f9cf80b0⋯.jpg (304.38 KB, 2130x1220, 213:122, 1519364300091.jpg)

File: d01a213ccce63bc⋯.jpg (378.69 KB, 1280x904, 160:113, 1516778280587.jpg)

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>>807766

Not him but...

>fantasy early 1900s setting with some areas of technology being way ahead

Deliberate anachronism, this isn't a historical novel, so it's not really a bad thing, nor something new in anime or other media. I don't really mind it but I can see why it would be distracting for some people. The novel does get more into why she has prosthetic arms and just how unique they are, though. But the anime has shown more "advanced" tech as well, so it's not only the prosthetics that stand out, there's a lot of advancements in their world

>they can make supersoldiers, not only mentally but also physically surpassing anything we'll have by 2050

The military didn't make Violet, her true past is yet to be revealed, but if you don't mind spoilers from the novel she is implied to be a demigod, there's a whole fantasy subplot that the show hasn't gotten into, probably because it would be too much information to take all in at once and they wanted to focus on Violet's development without so many subplots happening in the background, maybe the movies will get into it, because, yeah, it would be kinda weird if they don't at least hint why Violet is so strong in the anime.

>they have the technology to create perfectly functional prosthetics that work better than what we'll be able to make in 2050

This seems to be the same as your first complain.

>literally none of this is ever addressed again, nowhere, it's never relevant to anything and every single time any new part of the world is revealed to us, it's just ordinary early 1900s

Same.

On a side note, the next two episodes will probably cover chapters 12 and 13. To anyone who has read the novels, do you think they will keep Gilbert alive, at this point anime Violet is so much diferent to novel Violet I don't think him being alive or dead would matter much?




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