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So after finding out the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about the demons and the promise and everything else, Emma made a calculated, modest goal:

They're going to save the entire fucking planet and everyone in it. In just two years.

Also, it's apparently only been TWO WEEKS since they broke out of Grace Field. This isn't quite five-minutes-on-Namek timing, but goddamn, that was over 60 chapters ago. So maybe at this pace they can pull it off.


This will be axed, no need to invest time.

I think Dr. Stone will go soon after as well.



And your reasons for that happenning are...?

Heard these mangos are popular enought so JUMP shouldnt axe them.



I really hope we get to see more of what Norman is up to these days.

How is Emma going to save the literal cattle, though?


>I think

No, you don't. Elaborate or get bullied like the nerd you are.



From what info I can find, Dr. Stone is usually in the top 5, rank-wise, and TPN is usually in the top 10. Black Clover has more reason to be worried about getting axed than those two.



I swear I've read this exact same post before. And I think someone explained why it's not likely getting axed either so I think you're just shitposting.

Besides what >>848154 said, it's also getting an anime. Why the fuck would you think this is getting axed?


>..- .-. .- ..-. .- --. --. --- -

Guess we're back to building tension.


So now the Ratri Clan is on them and their opponents will be humans this time. I expect the kids to angst over shooting a fellow human and end up setting elaborate Higurashi-tier traps to nonlethally incapacitate them. I hope I am wrong on this and Emma pulls a trigger on them.



Don't be silly. Emma is the genki lovable manga protagonist. She'll find a way to make friends with them, see the error of their ways, and relent to her will.

Or failing that, one of them will kill Ray and she'll go Super Saiyan and slaughter them all.


>10km north, 10km east, 10km south, 10km west, 10km up, 10km down

Either this is some kind of logic puzzle, or there's some seriously Lovecraftian geometry going on wherever these "walls" are located. That would make sense, because then it wouldn't be possible for humans to just stumble upon them by accident from the opposite side.

Also, it's finally time for Don and Gilda to shine or die.


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Bogdanoffs confirmed highest IQ ancestors



That edit on Gilda almost fooled me. Almost.



Looks like the little shits have it already figured out, though. This "Khavitidala" dragon is probably another reference to those adventure books.



Yeah, I figured it's code for something inside a book, kinda like how the morse code on the covers of Minerva's books led them to their first bits of information.


I hope that Norman has managed to establish contact with the rest of the rebellion. I feel like Adam is a key, and Norman was behind his escape, and made sure he found his way to Emma and Ray.


Now that was an "oh shit" moment we haven't had in a long time.



I wonder if Shirai is finally committing to the story again now that it's on steady narrative turf.



Since the fourth quarter 2017 Jump's average ranking is:

1. One Piece


2-4 Dr. Stone, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Neverland


The rest.

>>848125 is likely just shitposting, or has no clue about what he is talking.


Anyone want to take bets to see if Andrew is a ally or enemy? also what race are these brown/dark people? besides the black maid who clearly is black... and that one guy in the 6 group. Hispanic? Turkish?



It's very doubtful that any allies would go waltzing right into demon territory like that. From what we've seen, they're too careful, too sneaky and properly paranoid. I'm betting Andrew is an emissary from the Ratri clan, or possibly an actual family member. Since they know about the Grace Field escapees, they would logically go to the other kids from that house and see if they can get any information. Phil is a logical choice, since he's the eldest child who was left behind; it's reasonable for them to assume that he would know something about the escape plan, like where they were going or whatever. Probably, they would try to bribe Phil with a promise that he'll be spared if he rats out the other kids, or just outright threaten him.

I'm really feeling for the kid right now; that's a lot of pressure to put on a six-year-old boy. Would be pretty funny if it turns out that he's somehow even smarter than Emma and Ray and Norman.


I can't believe Emma awakened the not-sharingan.


I expected Phil to be useless shitty brat, but he's the fuckin' MVP.



Nah, she just stumbled upon a palantir, and then spoke to Truth.



It was doubly "oh shit" for me because I expect these things to happen as cliffhangers at the end of chapters, not right in the middle of one like that. That Phil and some of the other kids were transferred to different plantations was a big enough twist, then Phil getting "called out" by the nigga, did not see that coming. Also the demons finally succeeded in killing another kid, even if it was just some rando made up on the spot to be offed. Gotta keep up the appearance that they're a credibly lethal threat.



>if Andrew is a ally or enemy?

Either he is a double agent or just a goon for the human traitors, and he hasn't so far show anything to make me think he is a double agent.


Neverland is now in its final arc.

Source: Author comments from this weeks WSJ.

It's nice to see that an author is finishing a manga, without unnecessarily prolonging it for profit.

The anime might actually adapt the entire manga.



>Neverland is now in its final arc

Rather meaningless, since arcs have no defined length. I suppose you could divide up the manga into three arcs. Orphanage Arc, from the beginning to the escape (1-37); Outside Arc, from the escape to Emma getting poached (38-64); Goldy Pond Arc, exactly as it says (65-95); and current arc (96-???).

Really, as a writer, myself Neverland feels to me about halfway done with the plot. Completing it any faster would either make it seem rushed, or leave a lot of untied plot threads. Before this announcement, I would have guessed at least two more arcs: one to gather information and allies, and for Norman to do whatever he's going to do; and one for the final push to rescue all the other kids from the orphanage(s) and defeat the demons with Talk no Jutsu. Considering we're already 6 chapters into this "final arc", if it were the same length as the others, it would end in only 20 or 30 more chapters. I just CAN'T IMAGINE everything getting done in that short a time period.

I... I mean, it could work with only a single more arc if the manga ends on a total downer ending with Emma et al failing and dying, and Phil and all the other kids never being able to escape. Or possibly a bittersweet ending with the rescue failing, but then an epilogue with Phil reaching the age of 11-ish, himself, and planning an escape of his own: "This time will be different!"

Or this "final arc" will just be 100 chapters long. What do I know?


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>as a writer, myself



While this still means that the series can be around for another year or two, this series ending is going to be a problem for WSJ. It was one of the few new series to help revitalize them after that lengthy period of serializing and axing cookie-cutter shounen fightan series like Golem Heart and Demon's Plan.



If you have nothing to offer to the conversation, fuck off and grow up. Giving a unique perspective to the prediction of an unknown, based on saleable skills, is commonplace in the real world. It's no different than diagnosing an injury when one is a doctor. Maybe when you graduate from middle school and learn skills greater than anime smugposting, you'll understand this.


So long as One Piece is still ongoing (so, you know, until Oda dies of old age or decides to wrap it up, in 50ish more years) WSJ probably isn't going anywhere. It's the only reason any other Jump series are given a chance to prove that they're worth something, because succeed or fail, OP keeps the magazine afloat. I don't know WHAT the Nips see in that series, but it seems to be a never-ending cash-cow.




I hope WSJ does another run of new manga to see what sticks. Dr Stone and Neverland are blessed series.



>Rather meaningless, since arcs have no defined length

It's true that arcs have no defined length, but I wouldn't call the announcement meaningless.

I would say that Neverland being in it's final arc shows that the authors has a clear ending in mind, and limite the developments that could happen.

>Or this "final arc" will just be 100 chapters long. What do I know?

Could be true, personally I expect the final arc to be between 50-125 chapters.


> It's the only reason any other Jump series are given a chance to prove that they're worth something

Jump uses the standart manga serialization model, One Piece has nothing to do with that.

>OP keeps the magazine afloat

That's an overstatement, excluding One Piece WSJ featured 4 of the 10 best selling manga series (physical sales) in the first half of 2018.

One Piece certainly helps WSJ, but the magazine would still be the number one in Japan even without One Piece.


They always do, it looks like they even serialized more new series in recent times.

Next issue starts 2 new series.



TPN is keeping me hooked with it's slowly unraveling mystery, while Dr Stone continues to surprise me with how hype it can be without being moronically overwrought.



>I would say that Neverland being in it's final arc shows that the authors has a clear ending in mind

I never got the impression that it was the kind of series that could go on forever, unless it somehow settled into a shounen format where they started encountering and fighting increasingly stronger demons, each farther up the hierarchy. From the beginning, it was clear the author knew where he was going. Besides: 1) Emma isn't a "fighting" protagonist, anyway, preferring to think her way through problems, and wanting to reason with the demons rather than eliminate them, and 2) There's been no hint that any of the kids have any superpower aside from being book smart and having perfect memory. It simply wouldn't work to drag this out for forever.

>excluding One Piece WSJ featured 4 of the 10 best selling manga series

That doesn't really matter because OP's sales are so much higher than everything else. It's like saying that you have most of the highest-value cars in your garage, but one of them is a Lamborghini and the rest are toy cars (and all the rest outside your garage are even smaller toy cars). It's possible that Jump would survive without OP, but it would probably be cutting its revenue in half. For as badly as physical media is doing these days, that's a reduction in profit margin I doubt they could take.


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>lashing out in impotent butthurt for being teased

I'm sure your Dungeon Seeker rip-off's gonna sell like hotcakes. I'd even buy two copies. Used.



> It's possible that Jump would survive without OP

It's not just possible it's certain, a weekly manga magazine requires a circulation of about 20k per week, Jump's physical circulation is 1.9 million per week. You're also overestimating One Piece's popularity in Japan, it's still the biggest manga but it isn't as big as it was during the late 2000s and early 2010s.

Oda is forced to take breaks by his editors, to be specific it's exactly 9 breaks per year.

WSJ has 48 issues per year, so OP is already missing from roughly 20% of WSJ issues.

There's also the fact that OP is losing popularity, there's a chance that Neverland with an anime boost will manage to sell more copies than OP in 2019.


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>Krone in the top 10

We know, Japan. We miss her too.


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Forgot to post!



Emma is best girl, and this is the one and only series where best girl isn't the one with the biggest tits.



>He thinks "writing" means drawing manga

Are you ACTUALLY a retard, or do you just play one in your spare time?


>Ray loses out to the guy who was put on a bus for dozens of chapters and only had one appearance since

Feels bad, man.


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Is this the new record for timeskips in a single chapter? I must say, I wouldn't have minded a slower approach, what with the demon town and all. The little buggers are cute.

I hope the pacing for Norman's ordeal so far will slow down a bit. If we get anything, that is.



>Japan decides for once not to have utter shit taste

I am pleasantly surprised.


Fluffy Emma is 2ndbest Emma. After happy Emma.


>he doesn't know about LNs

Now you're just being silly, Hemingway-senpai.


I don't mind this timeskip. It feels sudden, but if all we missed was trekking and occasionally putting down a few bestial demons, then it's for the best to stick to the meat of the story.

Unless it goes full Firepunch.

Then the series goes from great to GOAT.




The timeskip was rough, but when you consider what we missed, I suppose this was the logical conclusion. If we had to follow them through these past 2-ish years, every arc would be

>We need to travel to this possible location to find the seven walls!

>We've finally reached the location!

>There's nothing here! Fuck!


>Oh shit! Some demons! Fight and kill them!

>now we must return to base

>yay, we're back at base after surviving something else on the way back... or having nothing happen!

>we've got another location to check!

>let's prepare ourselves and then head out again!

<[repeat this structure for 2 years of in-story time]

It would get deeply frustrating, for one, and it would drain a lot of the energy out of the series, because we'd only get trickles of information about Norman and Phil and some of the other stuff going on, and in terms of chapters, we're talking about another 100 chapters of no serious development.

Doing the timeskip, but leaving it vague means we get surprises and reveals when it comes time for them to show off the skills they developed during the skip, but we also know that nothing severely serious was glossed over.



>he doesn't know about LNs

I know we're on /a/, but it would be absurd to assume ANY of us are actually producing content in Nipland. Maybe if you spend long enough here, you forget there are such things as Western novels, but they're still there.

>That timeskip

Jesus Fuck, it sure feels NOW like he's gonna end this manga in only 20 more chapters. I really don't even feel like this time spent was necessary, since all of it was dead-ends. Seems more just there to put an artificial tension into further chapters, because they're only a few months away from their "two years from now" deadline. And just what the fuck HAS Norman been up to all this time??

Although it is funny to see Emma's hair getting increasingly frazzled.



This is kind of a shame. On the one hand I don't want to see the series dragged out unnecessarily like what happens with other popular titles. But on the other hand, I really love this manga and the world and plot they've set up has enough breadth to keep things going for quite some time. Still I do feel it's a good thing that WSJ is trying different things, running titles like that that might have more limited runs, instead of just constantly seeking replacements for the Big Three. Kimetsu no Yaiba also seems like it's meant for a relatively short run given how close they are to the final boss. Which is a shame, because this series actually felt like it had the potential to run for a longer time.



Agreedo. Never-ending cash cow franchises make me puke, that's why I stopped reading American capeshit comics as a kid. But Promised Neverland has a great setting and the potential to run a lot longer than it's probably going to.



Well we never got to see what happened to the nigger kid with "we need to talk"



This is a good point. Either he's dead or he's not. Is there even time for a flashback to let us know how whichever situation came to pass, happened? I was honestly hoping for at least a whole mini-arc dedicated to just his personal struggles. Same with Norman.




He is probably alive. Not like they'll kill the kid when he has information AND can still be harvested. If anything, you'll see the results of the talk if demons start trying to find all the secret places the kids found.



Though I'll add it seems like they are looking for them anyway.


Okay, time to take bets. Who's gonna die to get them out of THIS mess?

My money is on Yuugo.


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God, I wish that were me.


I wonder who got them into this mess. Please, not Phil.



I think what got them in the mess is process of elimination. They were searching through every single of the decoy shelters. Makes sense that they would eventually run out of decoys, and find the real one.



It's a little hard to believe it took them a year of constant searching to locate them while they were constantly moving back and forth from that one base.



Musicbox and her buddy did screw around with the kid's traces, though.


How does she know akoxhgoekaocn or whatever has no face?



That wasn't Musicbox and her buddy, it was the "ally" that spoke to them on the phone. We only ever got a background shot of him though.



No he was tapping his leg with Morse code.


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Oh sorry, I thought you were talking about Musica and the other demon. My bad. Speaking of them though, I wonder when they'll show up again.


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>new chapter




Honestly kinda predictable at this point. But still fun.

Oh no, the bad guys found us!

It's okay, we have a secret exit and can easily escape.

Oh no, the bad guys know about our secret exit and are going to ambush us!

It's okay, we know that they know, and so have prepared a counter-ambush plan.

Oh no, the bad guys found out about our counter-ambush!

It's okay, we deliberately leaked the information so while they're waiting for our counter-ambush so they can counter THAT, we'll actually be escaping through the OTHER secret exit.

All according to keikaku.


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>People are actually dying

I didn't expect this. Is Norman going to be the only one left??

Pic related: Visual Storytelling 101, or how to show that your characters are heading toward their deaths.



yes, we must stamp out the male gaze at all cost and rid the world of toxic masculinity, my fellow fag.


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>Yugo and Lucas Operating and Maximum Operational Operationality



Do you believe in the future too, anon?


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Godspeed, man-who-shall-not-be-named-who-was-later-named. Enjoy the eternal tea-and-cookies in Valhalla with your boyfriend buddy, and say hi to Krone for all of us when you get there.



Nice catch. Didn't even make that connection.



I just have to assume that he was continually sneaking into the compounds of the humans allied with the demons, for no other purpose than to steal more fresh cookies.


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Sleep tight.



Rest In Peace.


And juuuuust when I was convinced that Emma was finally going to crack into pieces and go mad, the Ghost of Cookies Past showed up and gave her a pep talk.

Not sure if that was an entire chapter of metaphor, or if this is more of Emma's weird visions.


Oh shit.


Oh great, another kid is going to die



Mark my goddamn words

He ain't dead


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>He meets dead people

>He ain't dead



If Andrew can survive a blast at point blank range, why not Yuugo; someone people actually care about?



Considering that we've seen possible bio-engineering in the Lambda place, it's fairly plausible that some soldiers get enhancements. We'll just have to wait until the next chapter and see what the justification is; until then this subject cannot be concluded.



Because good guys finesse; bad guys are tanks.


Nobody told me this was a horror manga!


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>another cliffhanger



We know someone got shot, but that means we're either going to get a chapter of Emma lamenting that she had to kill a human, or we'll get some kind of twist where someone else shoots zombieface and Emma laments that she never pulled the trigger.. and also that like.. a dozen people just died off screen.


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This series ends with cliffhangers 90% of the time, you either should have gotten used to it or dropped it out of frustration by now.


It honestly kind of was already, stuff like the mass grown humans and Isabella appearing next to Emma were disturbing, plus the themes in general. This chapter is probably the most fucked the series has been so far though.


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What I meant was that most of the cliffhangers used to be great. Exciting revelations to keep your noggin joggin' for the next week, not this bottom-of-the-barrel blueballing.



The chapter itself supplied enough tension that I'd say it balances out; based off the last chapter, Shirai is going more for fear and tension based cliffhangers right now as opposed to one's that really make you think, but you have a point. In any case, I hope Emma shot Andrew, that would be some big character development. But it's actually Phil




Now that shit's really killing me. First the surprise visit by Andrew and now he's cockteasing us about what may or may not have happened between the two.

>appropriate flavor of cliffhanger for the current vibe

I haven't thought about it that way.


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Goddamn Andrew going full Two-Face over here.

Betting Emma takes a third option, where she shoots his hand or something so he can't pull the trigger.


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


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After seeing how the filthy secondaries reacted to Goblin Slayer, I'm not looking forward to seeing how many normalfags and e-celeb retards are going to spaz out about all the early plot twists, let alone the introduction of Sister Giga Nigga.


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The anime world in general isn't really ready for her grace. Her death was unironically the 2nd saddest scene so far. Though her concept art doesn't look right, I have a strong feeling that's going to be a good thing because her expressions will be even better in comparison when they're hopefully done right.


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They gave her a cute, younger face, with less exaggerated features... I can only hope that their intent is to make her seem more normal and inoffensive, only to have her shift into Giga Nigga mode and shock audiences with her absurd expressions.



>only to have her shift into Giga Nigga mode and shock audiences with her absurd expressions

This, so much this. The effect if there would be almost an entire art shift in her appearance when this happens would be amazing. Not enough anime do this sort of thing, even when it happens in manga all the time.


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New chapter came early.




Is it wrong to want an aunt-Jemima-style maple syrup dispenser in Krone's likeness?


And when it happens, it's only for a couple of frames.


Giga Nigga Krone must be done justice. The anime is worthless if they don't amp up the extreme expressions.


I'm concerned, don't demons that eat humans get smarter? This could be a problem, especially if it takes on his memory/personality like those bdsm demons did.



>she shoots his hand or something so he can't pull the trigger

Well, it was HALF right. The other half was diabolus ex machina. Guess we're putting off the kids having to shoot another human for yet another day. Can we preserve Emma's innocence until the end of the manga? Find out next week, same Never time, same Never channel.

Also: wait, Minerva is alive??


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>Emma takes the shot... to his hand

>Other kid shoots his shoulder at the same time


>actually there was a giant demon around who just fucking eats him anyways

>they don't even react to the demon

>dude is just dead as fuck now and the demon is a non-issue apparently

>everyone cries and whines for a bit about losing Yuugo and Lucas

What the fuck, man?



I guess giant demons the size of semi trucks are really sneaky or something. Good thing it didn't decide to snap up one of the other kids while everyone was laser-focused on Andrew.

But if you think about it, this was really the most appropriate death for him. Prattling on and on about how he's a superior human, how the others are just food. And then what happens? He becomes food for a demon that doesn't give a fuck about which humans it eats, proving that he's on "their" level whether he likes it or not. Also: just because you work for the demons doesn't mean they don't consider you expendable.



I guess it's a nice, poetic ending to the character. They were really heavy handed with his anger over them being nothing but livestock born to serve the rightful rulers of the world, or whatever. Still, it felt like it would have been far more meaningful for Emma to come to terms with the reality that she can't get through this ordeal without 1) Losing people, and 2) having to kill some of the humans responsible for putting them in this situation.

You can't resolve this whole plot without any bloodshed and Emma cannot remain innocent, given the world she's in and what she knows.



>You can't resolve this whole plot without any bloodshed and Emma cannot remain innocent, given the world she's in and what she knows.

You seriously underestimate the power of shounenshit plot contrivances. You can bend the world backwards so MC doesn't have to kill anyone. Will it ruin an amazing opportunity for the MC to develop? Yes, but it's shounenshit.

Hell, Luffy after all these years has canonically never killed anyone either.



Fuck meant for >>878795



I wouldn't classify TPN as shounen. But either way Emma might not have to kill anyone. Chances are, though, that in this situation it might end up getting a lot of others killed. I suspect that would happen before she makes a decision to change.


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I've been re-reading TPN so far and while I heavily disliked the change in tone since the escape arc at first, now I'm actually interested and hyped. Seeing Yuugo or even Lucas alive here makes me a little sad.

Anyway, why didn't Minerva directly told them how to escape via the orphanages, instead of going to Goldy pond? I assume it's because those areas are being monitored.


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>we'll never go back to this



TPN is still enjoyable. It has gone through a tonal shift though. I'm wondering if there'll be any more mystery/puzzle solving though.


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We can all agree that this new James is basically Norman, right?


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Fuck, I hate when mangas do this flashback shit. Because it's invariable that whatever they're portraying in it is a LOT more interesting than what's actually going on in the main plot.

When TPN is over, there HAD BETTER BE a prequel series: "Minerva: Demon Slayer".



I want to know how the fuck these guys are strong and skilled enough to take down demons in melee. I was expecting humans to handle demons at range and via clever tactics.


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We're going the usual shonen route. They probably drank demon blood or something like this. Or maybe they're byproducts of the Lambda experiment like Norman. Remember that part when he was throwing houses like it was nothing?



Did Promised Neverland turn into Gantz?



To be fair, these don't look like really strong demons (not even clothed), so they're probably just scrubs barely above the ability of the feral variety. One can assume that the majority of demons are going to be vastly inferior to the likes of Lewis, who was supernatural in speed and strength. Keep in mind that much of the manga has been about running away from demons of all varieties because the protagonists have all been small children with not even the physical strength to contest human adults, and the demons were previously thought to be completely immortal. It's entirely possible that most demons aren't nearly as threatening as we've been made to believe by the context. Even the big wild ones in the forest were huge threats until Yuugo showed them how to take them down by targeting their main eye.

So it's less power-creep on the part of the protagonists, and more that the antagonists are actually glass cannons courtesy of their universal weak-spot, and none too clever either.

Still, I see your point that it's a big departure from how things have been done up until now. Makes sense why it's confined to a flashback, as it's not going to be repeated in the present; it's just to hype up how much of a badass Minerva is/was/is-once-again?. There's no way Emma and the kids can pull off going full-ninja like this.



I'm not fussed by it too much, it's just bizarre that they'd tackle them in CQC. We have really only seen two exemplary demons though, everyone else has been a scrub or feral.


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On this exciting episode of Survival Cooking with Emma Stewart and Friends: how to remove poison from mushrooms with herbs, how to follow monkeys to find fruit trees, and how to train in order to sense the power levels of nearby demons.


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Heh. At least I liked how the writer tried to make the chapter focus on characters interacting with each other and give the spotlight to the toddlers, even if we were welcomed by the usual cliffhanger at the end.



I wouldn't call that nothing.



Well memed.


That situation defused rather quickly. Can't wait for the break-in next chapter.


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This manga is a neverending font of potential reaction images.

Also, these new kids have the same mark as Adam, who came from where Norman is. It's looking more and more likely that he's involved with this whole Minerva thing. Maybe puberty hit him like a sack of bricks and he really IS the supposed Minerva...?

Why do I get the distinct feeling that the nearest plantation is going to be not Grace Field?


Hopefully Emma doesn't stumble on the room where they breed and feed all the brainless fodder kids. Pretty sure she'd lose her shit and want to somehow "rescue" all of them. One of these days, her infinite kindness and desire to save the world is going to come back to bite her, and hard.


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Hayato is just too damn adorable. He's most certainly going to die. I wonder if the big guy is another huge retard like Adam, or some kind of brainwashed demon; the paper-bag mask makes me suspect the latter.

Oh, and some hype for pic related.


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New Chapter, and last one of this year 2018, is out.

How the hell this guy that cant be Norman, knew her before personally?



It can't be THE Norman. It just can't be. This guy looks like he's in his 30s, while Emma and Ray are still teenagers. Unless they stuck him in a vat that artificially aged him, or there's some kooky time-shenanigans going on, this has to be some kind of trick. Ten bucks says "Norman" is going to try to convince Emma to stay there and abandon her quest to save everyone and forge a new Promise.

Anyone else getting major Zion (from the Matrix) vibes from the secret base in the middle of the tree?



You know... this possibility just never entered my mind. TPN still manages to surprise me.




What the flipping demon tiddies is going on?


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Can Normans share memories or something?

I am confused.


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The anime finally begins and I'm having great first impressions. They captured the atmosphere perfectly. Hate how they made Ray 100x more obvious. ED is amazing.



I want to say it's only obvious that Ray already knows everything because we know it. I don't think it's going to be obvious to newbies. Why would they even consider such a possibility? It comes pretty much out of nowhere.

Also, let's play voice-actor alternate-character roulette: On this episode, Killua and his brother sister Alluka are stuck in an orphanage with Nina goddamn Tucker. How can they escape before becoming demon food?



I didn't like the egregious use of DoF effects.


They put Giga-nigress in the OP instead of having the fun reveal.



The fun reveal isn't just that she EXISTS.



I've only seen the name before but I saw it coming from the beginning. The show just had that tone.



I'm seconding this, even in the manga it was obvious Ray wasn't oblivious, we just never the extent of what he knew.


New Chapter is out.

Norman is alive, and he escaped the experimentation facility with help from Minerva insiders

He make others kids believe that he is Minerva to foment trust & the rebellion

Now looks like in next chapter he will explain precisely what demons are, and why they eat humans!

Im really excited for the next chapter and to get answers already!


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Exactly. Was it pretty clear that Ray knew about the whole farm deal before being told by Emma and Norman? Sure. But there was no indication that he knew since he was six-years-old or that he is actually working as Isabella's double-agent and openly in it and certainly not that he is her actual biological child. All that stuff came right outta left field.


>Oh yeah. I escaped and it was amazing and we'll never discuss this again

Great, more really entertaining shit that I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN, yet will never get covered. Fuck.

Also, I've been theorizing for a while that the demons only gain intelligence from eating human brains (or the brains of each other, like with Nous/Nouma). The smartest ones are the ones that eat the smartest humans. If they don't continually eat human brains, they'll just regress back into the feral demons that wander the woods.



What about Sunjoo and Musica then?



Either they eat other demons or they were straight-up lying. Because they're at least as old as Lewis (centuries) and if they haven't eaten any humans for that time, but Norman insists they MUST do so, it doesn't add up.

The other possibility, of course, is that Norman is lying...




Look I'm just going to put this out there I want to fuck the shit out of Musica. Normally feet don't do anything but when they're the only thing visible somehow the appeal goes from 0 to 100%

Send help. Also lewds



Ravioli ravioli



Yeah. It would have been great to see but it was clear that Neverland lost some popularity along the way that they had to condense a lot of stuff since they got the memo that they must wrap it up. I would say around the time they stated what they were going to do next after Goldy Pond but then we get that quick resolution to their next destination and time skip. What they're doing now is dropping hints of what they had planned but can't do anymore. I would have guessed they wanted about 3-4 big arcs before we got this finale.



Imma fuck the demon loli.


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Is no one watching this now? The latest episode has been great.


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I missed Krone so much. I'd forgotten just HOW over-the-top she is.

Also spent about a half-hour wondering what the heck the episode numbers were supposed to mean, because they're too long to be anyone's ID numbers. Then I figured it's just the date, in day/month/year format.


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I think the adaptation is great and I just started watching it but I also know this place has been discussing the manga since it was first published and is rife with spoilers. Makes me very cautious about talking about this.


Did Musica and that other demon lie!?

This isn't the Norman we knew and loved.



It's really fucking good but I already know everything that's going to happen.

Almost makes me wish I never read the manga, but even with how good the anime is, the manga still did the cliffhangers at the end of every single fucking chapter (how the fuck did they even manage that?) better.


>The demons are literally Chimera Ants

I don't even. I can't even. I REFUSE to even!


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Six months, huh? No way that bitch stayed on the straight and narrow.


Kinda bummed out myself over this, but then again it provides a feasible win condition. Oh wait no, fuck everything. Inquisitor Norman just declared exterminatus on their asses.


>he's evil for wanting to eradicate a species that must kill humanity to survive

I fucking hate the MC and by extension japan, this reminds me of that retarded mess tokyo ghoul.

"OMG stop oppressing us because we need human flesh to live and our dietary requirements put hard limits on our population size!"

Fucking retarded, unbelievably fucking retard.


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I am.

This flew completely under my radar, but I'm reading the manga while watching this show and it's been great so far, even if they skipped some scenes from the manga.



Ironically, part of the reason I've felt reluctant about posting in these threads is because I don't want to spoil secondaries. The twisty-turny ride is what hooked me on this series.



The don't need humans to survive, just to remain sapient. There isn't any need to KILL them, just restrict their diet and let them turn back into feral demons to live out their lives in the forests or whatever.

Granted, for a sapient being, completely losing your marbles is no different at all from death... but at least it's more humane and avoids all those nasty corpse-disposal problems.


It would be easier if we had a dedicated thread for manga spoilers and then a separate one for anime discussion. But I don't see that happening. Though, honestly, even if you got spoiled about something in the manga right now, you'd probably forget about it by the time the anime actually gets around to adapting that. From what I understand, the anime right now will only have 12 episodes, presumably just long enough for them to escape. Who knows how long it'll be before another season comes along, but it's a safe bet that it'll be YEARS before the end of the manga gets adapted.



It's less about what he wants to eradicate. But rather the sheer logistics of doing so since the demons won't go quietly, and neither will the humans seeking to maintain the treaty. Plus the cost in lives associated with such a long-term and lengthy campaign.



> There isn't any need to KILL them, just restrict their diet and let them turn back into feral demons to live out their lives in the forests or whatever.

They're natural predators and the minute they taste human again they'll try to re-establish their society.


There is presently no other means of winning the war, it's cattle or death.

And he's currently enacting it the simple way by first starving them of their food supply, the second part of the plan is far easier after the first is completed. Once they're no longer human boosted they're no longer sapient, they are merely eradicating a pest species.



Until they start eating each other to maintain their intelligence and form a super demon.


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>inb4 it already happened once and the result was [wingdings petroglyphs]


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You're too kind too these evil bastards. It would be immoral to do anything less than mercilessly exterminate these demons down to the last imp.



>There is presently no other means of winning the war, it's cattle or death.

The dillema we the readers are facing right now is comparing Stormin Norman's war strategy to Emma's 7 walls strategy. Emma's is possibly the least bloody option which is what she would like. Norman's plan requires continual battle until all opposition is eradicated and they can secure the Demon world for themselves.

Right now both plans aren't fully outlined or realized, there's a lot more groundwork to be laid out before figuring out whose plan has the most validity but if it's like the escape from the plantation, a compromise between ideals is the best option



I mean, I'm assuming that's how Sonju and Musica maintain their own state without eating humans.


Looks like Ray is going to be the deciding tiebreaker vote on which strategy they go with. Since the very beginning he'd always been more pragmatic and siding with the Norman rather than going with Emma's wide-eyed idealism plans. But maybe having spent a few years around her has softened him up a little. It's a coin flip, really.


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>It's a coin flip, really.

[screeches in hopefulness]


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>I mean, I'm assuming that's how Sonju and Musica maintain their own state without eating humans.

Musica mentioned that demonkind had "degraded" over the thousand years. Implying that they were better off before the promise, Musica's face looks incredibly humanoid as well which only implies that either they do eat humans or demons have a way of keeping themselves sane without eating humans or Musica is some sort of ancient turbodemon. I would go with Musica/Song being ancient devotees of the demongod which comes with perks. Another thing that points to that is that she had that special demongod pendant and encouraged emma to go to the seven walls.

Another thing that worries me is that in the beginning the elder demons were very concerned about giving their demongod the premium grade meat and that is what prompted them to be so desprate about keeping them alive. How come their demongod wants that meat in the first place?

There are still many mysteries.



This is why the series remains so engaging. The answers we get after an appropriate buildup do illuminate and explain things, but they also widen the setting and build on what we already know. It's a great balance of mystery and world building.



>How come their demongod wants that meat in the first place?

Because it's the most delicious...? There doesn't really need to be a good reason why the faithful want to bring the very best to their lord. One does not simply drop a SORTA-virgin into the volcano, or bring a tribute of bronze instead of gold to the king. It could be as simple as Wingdings straight-up murdering them if he's not happy with the meal.



They are on their way to meet the demongod to make a new promise.


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Something is up. Something is definitely, absolutely, CERTAINLY up. And it's not just Emma who is doubting things; Ray clearly sees it, too. He just puts on an act like he's done before, like Emma has done before.

You see. They're right back where they started. In a happy idyllic place where everyone is a big family, and nothing bad ever happens. They're right back in another farm. Except this time Norman is the mama. And I have to say, since this is supposed to be the last arc it's a fantastic way to book-end the series.


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I think Emma/Rays anxiety stems from the fact that they have spent the year searching for the seven walls and Nor "Kill em all" man has been spending the year preparing for a complete genocide. Emma wants to go for the promise because then there would be no more need for conflict or war if it succeeds. Norman obviously has trouble balancing being the loving big brother and the rampaging warmaster that is so revered that his subjects are willing to risk their lives for him and his cause. Norman wants total war and knows he needs soldiers and that lives will be sacrificed no matter how much he wishes it not to be so. Emma and Ray probably noticed that but chooses to not press the issue for now as they are so happy to reunite with Norman.

Emma has spent a long time searching for the seven walls and convinced her group of it. For them to just switch to a seemingly easier but way riskier approach is most likely what made her distraught. Adding to the issue is that Norman should be aware of the Seven walls and the promise but chooses genocide either way. Most likely he believes it is complete superstition and wont go along with it.

But we will see.



>Norman is the Mama



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This is clearly too good to be true.



Emma and Ray are probably also wondering about the issues with Musica/Sonju and other gaps in Norman's theory. Not to mention, surely the demons have an actual fighting force they can turn on a full human rebellion? Not just a bunch of illegal poachers with spears who love the thrill of the hunt, fuckers with guns and explosives and modern technology. An all-out war of extermination doesn't stand a chance, and Norman isn't dumb enough to think it would magically just work out- that's the cover story, but what is it covering?



I wonder if they stuffed a small demon in there that licks your butt clean.


>the issues with Musica/Sonju

Yeah, that's the thing. See, Norman doesn't know about them, and couldn't possibly have conceived that in some of the time they were separated, Ray and Emma would have met FRIENDLY demons who told them they don't eat humans, and haven't for centuries. It's logical to assume that every contact any of them have had with demons has been antagonistic (and reasonable to assume that since some of them eat humans, all of them do). The alternative is absurd, so he wouldn't have considered it when crafting the lie. The way I see it, though, there are still multiple possibilities.

Norman is in charge of this whole deal and crafted this lie, thinking it was foolproof.

There is someone even higher-up than Norman (will the real Will Minerva please stand up?) who is in charge, who lied to Norman who couldn't have known it was a lie.

Norman DOES know about Sonju and Musica, and so deliberately crafted his lie in such a way as to fool the other kids, but knowing that Emma and Ray would pick up on it, because he needs their help but can't make it obvious that he knows and they know.

Sonju and Musica were lying, but I mostly discount this because it's so boring.

The mangaka pulled a Toriyama and somehow completely forgot Sonju and Musica claimed to not eat humans. Which, while hilarious, also seems very unlikely.



>fuckers with guns and explosives and modern technology

I'm quite doubtful they even have things like that. They certainly know about the tech but doesn't want to use them for whatever reason. Not even the high class demons pulled out guns when they were going to contain the grace field breakout. And you have to assume they are amongst the most developed ones due to the high quality meat they eat.



>Tree has a sewer system


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Just stomp it down the drain xylem.



All the previous battles have been against demons who wanted to hunt or capture the humans, generally to eat them (immediately or later). Bladed weapons works just fine for that. If the humans became enough of an existential threat to shift the focus to killing them instead, it would be really strange if the demons with human-level intelligence wouldn't use something more advanced.


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And in anime-land, Ray is accused of being the traitor.



I also write things and post them on the Internet, in fact I'm doing that right now. Unless of course you mean you have actually published and sold your works.



Writing is much like singing. Almost everyone can do it, but almost everyone is completely terrible at it, yet doesn't realize this because such is their level of incompetence. Go watch one of those early episodes of American Idol, when one of those idiots go to audition with radiating confidence, only to sound like a dying cat in their attempts to sing, and then get unceremoniously shooed out. How, you wonder, can someone be SO BAD, and yet not know it?

Then realize that person is you.



Anon was paid by jews to debase himself on this ottoman macramé assembly line for the amusement of burgercattle?

There isn't even a sign that tells me when to clap, you are full of shit.


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It shouldn't have made me laugh but it did



>Anon was paid by jews to debase himself on this ottoman macramé assembly line for the amusement of burgercattle

What in the name of CHRIST are you talking about?? Either you need to stop dropping acid before making posts, or you need to get the fuck back to /pol/ and never return.



The movement Norman made towards Ray in that moment, I almost felt as though he was about to strike some kind of Jojo pose.



Autistic works of fiction, dear anon. Calm your tits.


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Everything is JoJo if you try hard enough.


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Emma does not oppose Norman yet because she knows his plan is the most logical and reasonable Don't forget that Emmas super altruism is part of the reason why she was selected to be Mama.. We will have to see what Emma decides to do but I swear if its some retarded flee from the new base stunt and put the family in danger then I will be disappointed.



I doubt Emma will put any of the other kids in danger. If anything, it'll just be her and Ray running off to do... whatever the Hell she plans to do.

Also, Norman is a major stuck-up douchebag when he's the "Boss".


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>Not "menacing" moonrunes at both sides of Norman



I was going for authenticity, not watered down reddit ironic weeb cred.



I guess you don't even read the manga.


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Norman adopting a business persona is only a natural development considering how absolutely obsessed he is with winning. I wouldn't say he is a douchebag, he is just as determined as he always has been. He has first hand seen many farms and probably felt bottomless hatred each time he had to shut down a low quality farm and this time swore that he will never lose to the demons or the ratri clan.


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The reactions are pretty fun.



Literally all I could think of with that dumb look on Norman's face: Demons hate him! How I turned from a doomed cattle child into the leader of the human resistance with just this one simple trick!



We get at least one "does this look like the face of mercy" shot every episode, usually more.


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>"does this look like the face of mercy"



I forgot that Emma is gonna go nuclear on Norman.


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Welp, here we go.

Also presented another possibility that I hadn't considered that Sonju and Musica are some kind of demon mutants that evolved to not need to eat humans. But I don't buy it, because it's not something one can just decide to do on account of a "religion" as it is "known" to kill you. That would be like having a religion involve consuming deadly poison and then it turning out that, surprise!, you have a genetic mutation that makes you resistant to that poison that kills normal people.


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This should do it.


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This chapter was like, "How many reaction faces can I fit into one installment of this manga?"


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Is he flexing on Ray to assert dominance?


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Here's the weekly dose of Krone.


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I assume some demons enjoy the gamey taste.



Nice m8.


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Yeah good luck with that coexistance plan. I swear if Emma fucks everything up because "muh musica".


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>Nearly On Red decides to make longform analysis videos of this show, breaking two of his rules (Nothing currently running in another format, nothing by Sony)

>For his impertinence, Sony nearly fucking nukes his channel


>For the same video, for different segments each time

I swear to fuck. This guy I found making hour and a half videos about Made in Abyss and managing to see the aliens twist in Darling a solid two episodes early, and he's getting his channel torn all to shit thanks to copyright strikes. And shills like Mother's Basement get hundreds times more views for a fraction of the effort.

Fuck this gay earth.



Pretty sure the point was supposed to be that those humans are murderous bloodthirsty bastards, which means they're Not So Different At All from the demons. Or they're just playing around to try to figure out what's in Emma's head.

I still don't see how this can possibly be the last arc. The protagonists don't even know what they're DOING yet. Emma fucking things up and this leading to everyone dying is the fastest possible method this whole thing could be resolved.



It's just Sony being notorious for being Youtube vultures and will strike everything they can and NoR being naive to how the system works.


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She really was taken from us too soon. Given her incredible cult popularity, I bet the mangaka regrets not making her death more ambiguous like Norman's.


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Anime only fag here. I find the show rather dull. The characters are one note and seriously lacking depth. Its hard to give a shit about anything going on since there is no investment in anybody. The big problem I think is that we don't have any sense of what the characters thought the outside world was actually like before discovering they are demon food. Therefore we don't know what future the characters have lost, and thus are missing out on the emotional core of these characters.

A good example of what I mean is how the show handles finding out Ray has known about the demons for a long time. That should be some truly traumatic shit for a child and be totally character forming. However, the show doesn't dwell on it and all and just brushes it off in passing so that it can get back to the stupid and predictable twists and turns of the plot. I find such writing totally baffling.

TL;DR - the show is poorly written and the characters suck



>making hour and a half videos about Made in Abyss

I don't follow streamers, but someone linked one guy here who sperged endlessly about vertical shots in the first episode. Was that him? Because all he did was attaching undue praise to a common technique. Which was a technical choice and not a 2deep4you argument, since it's just a few shots in the beginning and later, the verticality is replaced by depth: all shots seek an angle to show the pit behind the characters, again a completely technical choice.

>and managing to see the aliens twist in Darling a solid two episodes early

Was it really that hard? I had my doubts as soon as I saw the human leaders treating kids like shit.



>as soon as I saw the human leaders treating kids like shit

To be clear, that doesn't scream 'alien' in itself: them being aliens was just retarded. It was just obvious they weren't really the good guys. And as soon as the argument for dinosaurs being a force of nature was made, you knew it was same ol' trite story about the good spirits of the mountain fighting back the ebil colonizers.


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What will go wrong and turn it all to shit?

More hiatus? Longer timeskips? A retarded twist?

All of the above.




Japan sure knows how to draw an ugly nigger, that's for sure.Glad it's not just a recolored loli or something.


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>That should be some truly traumatic shit for a child and be totally character forming. However, the show doesn't dwell on it and all and just brushes it off in passing so that it can get back to the stupid and predictable twists and turns of the plot. I find such writing totally baffling.

You are completely right. Normal kids don't solve advanced math, normal kids don't outsmart adults, normal kids don't outrun athletic adults, normal kids don't form elaborate plans at the spur of the moment. You see that is the point, they are not normal kids and their reactions are perfectly normal considering their circumstances.



>they are not normal kids and their reactions are perfectly normal

This is a MAL tier argument you shouldn't use. What you're saying is that denying realism will shield the story from any criticism that your characters don't behave realistically:

<Look mom, they can't tell me I write unbelievably fake characters, because I made them really aliens

It's ridiculous to believe you can enforce suspension of disbelief on the quality of your characterization. In the world of grown ups, you have to learn how humans work - which is INCREDIBLY intricate and impossible to achieve without a solid foothold in literature. Alien logic can be implement but that is typically administered in small doses to make a big point (i.e. humans who know no empathy), an not as an alibi for bad writing.


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The death looked a bit better in the manga.


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>What you're saying is that denying realism will shield the story from any criticism that your characters don't behave realistically

I think you need to pay attention to whatever it is your are watching/reading. He is traumatized by it. Ray was freaked when he remembered the secret and is a big reason why he is a cynical edgelord since he knows the ultimate fate of most kids at the farm. Emma, Norman and Ray are trained extensively daily in logical thinking and and is the reason why they adapt to the situation so well. Whats next? You gonna say that Emma keeping her cool when Isabella scrutinized her is bad writing since any normal kids would freak out and blow their cover?



The thing is, there is no way to know that this isn't how the kids would actually be. There has never been, at any point in the world, an example when children have been raised in a completely controlled environment like this for 12 years. There's no precedent. You can't compare it to children outside such an environment and declare that they would act the same; they probably wouldn't.

A big problem is that modern anime and manga just have no time to develop anymore (a trend in media writ large), because the viewer is impatient. The big twists and action sequences have to start almost immediately or they'll lose interest (which is why they rely so heavily on flashbacks later on to establish characterization). Compare this to Made in Abyss where the writer had to pretty much skip entirely through the 3rd Layer of the Abyss and get to Nanachi as quickly as possible, because interest in the manga was waning. It's a bit like a movie that is explicitly about a cross-country road trip, and then the entire portion between St. Louis and Denver gets skipped because the audience is getting a bit bored. People are just impatient, and it's entirely controlling the pacing of media. This isn't a problem with the writing. Most people would probably just want them to escape in the first fucking episode.


>advanced math

I mean, that's all pretty basic algebra/geometry once you get beyond the jargon: the kind you could find on any visual/spatial logic test. The impressive part is that they solve it so quickly, but if you took fucking SAT tests every day of your life, you'd be quick, too. What bothers me is the entire fundamental idea that being good at tests makes you good at solving real life problems, which is demonstrably false. Since the very beginning I'd been waiting for a moment where the fact that they're "book smart" but have no practical logical intelligence would screw over the kids, but it never happened. They're just straight Hollywood Geniuses who are good at everything.


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>Let's form an alliance!

>Except we're clearly going to backstab you.

>That's okay, because we're going to do the same!

>Isn't that more of a frontstab, then?

>That sounds kinda gay.

>Says the guy who gets turned on from tasting my fluids...



I expected the demon to dramatically open a bag of crispy fried chips human ears.



>Not So Different At All

Why did you randomly capitalize that one part?



Because it's a standard cliche.



>that smug sadism

I want to stick my dick in her so bad.



Well, given that Ray exists someone probably stuck his dick in her at some point. And given how the demons tend to do things, chances are that someone was twelve-years-old just like you.



She was artificially inseminated. As all "Mamas" are.


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We also got a new ED.


So, when do you think it's going to pick back up and stop being so shit again?



But it never became "shit". It just shifted focus. Stop memespouting.



Yeah, it shifted its focus into bring back a character that was previously thought to be dead taking away all weight that moment had.

I call that becoming shit.



Nobody thought he was dead. It was completely obvious that he survived based on his reaction when he reached the gate.



We've known he was alive since he "died". Are you too dense to recall his reaction and the chapter that showed him alive before all this?

Turns out Musica is death incarnate.



So if Musica is the one with the "cursed blood", does that means Sonju ate part of her to get that same immunity? Or did he just eat her out?



>bring back a character that was previously thought to be dead taking away all weight that moment had

wew Promised Neverland plagiarizes Made in Abyss even in its mistakes.


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Nah, >>911103 ist just an illiterate faggot. Or possibly a wiki-only reader.

The supposed death in question was suspicious from the start and he was revealed to be alive some 30 chapters later.


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A bit of despair this episode.


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I can't believe Norman is literally dead.


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You know. I can't fault Norman's argument. If cows started talking, I'd still eat steak.



Technically they DO talk, just not in a very complex language. The irony here is that the majority of the demons' meat is farmed from essentially brain-dead humans. It's actually more humane that what we do with farm animals, who are conscious, sentient, and feel pain and fear.



Minor spoiler, but Gracefield is actually an abnormality compared to the other human farms that exist in the world and the treatment and illusion of safety and family they have with Mama is part of the reason why the meat they produce is considered such high quality. It's the equivalent of a farm that utterly pampers and spoils all its cows, giving them massages and specially made food, flown in from around the world, raised in carefully controlled and ideal environments that keep the cow happy, because all of that produces some of the most delicious steak in the world.



So Gracefield kids are the Kobe beef of the demon world.


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Man, that ending smirk from Emma about made me cream my pants. FUCK this episode was so good. Kids make me feel feelings even when I know what's going to happen.

Nice subtle foreshadowing with the kids and the hangers.


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I just picked this up completely blind and watched episode 1. What the fuck.



Yeah, this thread has lots of spoilers, so if you're not going to binge the manga in the next few days, I'd recommend not reading all this stuff. I guess you can wait until the anime is over the read the manga, if you want. It's only supposed to be like 12 episodes or something.



I haven't read the thread. I just think the story is fucked up.


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You've never dressed this well. What do you call this cape thing?



A mantle.



A poncho.


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Gotta love Norman going full "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for cattle children".


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..oh, I didn't realize this was the suffering anime.


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I love this story so I started the manga.

>He was going to set himself on fire.

Ray is hardcore.

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