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I've fallen behind in maintaining the LN/WN/VN thread since I've been reading Shield Hero's WN Bakarina. Enjoying anything good lately, /a/?

I've gotta eventually finish Spice & Wolf as well as the Slayers light novel, but I'm in a light novel slump these last few days as I play that stupid NTR game Evenicle. I started it and now I have to finish it. What are you reading? Find any gems among the normalfag trash? As for Shield Hero, I have to say the early chapters remind me more of a live action rather than an anime, while the later chapters are nice. It truly is a masterpiece in its own right, even if it's generic isekai trash. It manages to avoid the power creep which is a rare exception for Isekai. How's your own web novels coming along, anon? Made any progress?



That is, Shield Hero'd WN AND Bakarina. That was a terrible blunder on my part.


I've been reading through the ToraDora LNs this year instead of rewatching the show for the umpteenth time. That's put me behind on reading most my other novels. I just got the 13th volume of the Shield Hero LN in the mail the other day, but don't remember ever buying it. Gotta read that.

I'm planning to start translating the 5th volume of Youjo Senki after the new year starts, because trying to keep up a schedule during the holidays is pointless.


I'm thinking of picking up and binging Slayers here next. I'll give anons a heads up about the LNs, but I'm not gonna read the reboot probably.


Recently I've been reading I’ve Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level. It's something cute and relaxing for when I want to go to bed.


>NTR game Evenicle

It really isn't for the most part as only one of the girls gets fucked by someone else other than MC. The entire rule system of the world is set up so you can't be NTR'd.

>Shield Hero manages to avoid the power creep

We must not have read the same LN then. Shield bro very quickly becomes the strongest of the heroes summoned and the enemies scale up with him.


Read through Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, and it's definitely top tier material. The MC is both interesting and entertaining, the romance between the MC and the love interest is both well done and doesn't feel superficial or rushed or "they got together because the author said so", the supporting cast are fairly well fleshed out, and the comedy got me laughing a few times. Pacing, setting, and story are all consistent. I'd recommend this one to anyone, even normalfags.



The MC doesn't cucked but other characters do, and there's plenty of rape. My suggestion is to just drop the game: the girls don't have any character growth, the sex scenes don't get better, the story doesn't get interesting, and the exploration/combat doesn't get fun. The high production values do a superb job of masking the thorough mediocrity of this game.



>second pic

I've almost been tempted to pick up the Mushoku Tensei LN or manga because of her but I fear that it won't be worth it because she'll either not get a lot of screentime or fall in love with some annoying loser.


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I've been meaning to finally read Goblin Slayer but for some reason I'm really hooked on reading trashy dime-novels at the moment.

I never thought I'd ever get into those but right now I'm so happy they still get published.



Then you're just retarded, nothing of the sort happens.


I know hunting for a good light novel has always been shit but lately it seems like it's gotten hundreds of times worse solely because people keep emulating wuxia novels for whatever reason, but without the bugmen mentality that lets the main characters kill hundreds of thousands for inconveniencing him.



Alright. Does she get a decent amount of screentime too?



She's a side character in volume 2 and makes a few appearances after that.


Read through "My death flags show no sign of ending" a few days ago. One of my more enjoyed "reincarnated into game" novels. I just wish it would keep releasing at a steady pace.


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Has the berserk LN been translated? Seems to be about the lizard knight apostle.


>Index NT 20

I feel bad for the people who read this and had to wait for 21 to come out. This volume had everything hit the fan and the story isn't even at its climax. Its like Europe is where Kamachi goes to write blood baths. I'm still shocked that Orsola became the main boss this time. Even if it was foreshadowed when the torch passed from Carissa to her it was still a surprise. Less surprising was Accelerator making a deal with the devil of misunderstanding to get good at magic. it was great reading all the best magic side girls present in the same scene.



Yea he does become the strongest hero pretty fast, but the power levels don't run away to absolute retardation due to the curse power resets and the separate level system in the other world.

I'm not the original anon you were talking with, so I cant speak for him, but thats my take on the series.

I personally wouldn't say there is no power creep, just that the series has inbuilt ways to keep it from getting retarded so that they can keep the fights interesting.


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>It's only NTR if it happens to you

>It's still vanilla since you aren't the one getting NTR'd (nevermind you marry one of the girls who fucked orcs and she always talks about how good it was fucking orcs while chatting with you)

>It really isn't for the most part

>For the most part

The rule of vanilla states that one drop of chocolate in your vanilla ice cream makes it no longer vanilla. I present not one drop, but three dollops of fudge and a strawberry blended in. There's more examples both in the writing and in CG format I've run into so far/I haven't reached evidence four yet so there could be more, but most anons don't consider Cuckqueen content the same as NTR. This of course doesn't include the various other CGs of girls getting raped by monsters which I know includes one of your wife getting fucked by the queen of Humpty, which like all the other scenes I'm sure I'll be forced to watch. Shit, Rance games have less NTR than this fucking game that everyone insists is "vanilla."

>Shield bro very quickly becomes the strongest of the heroes summoned and the enemies scale up with him.

He actually bothers gathering up small shield bonuses instead of just using the strongest weapon he gets. When the other heroes do the same they quickly outclass him in the Web Novel. Basically see >>895298

Power creep isn't "character gets stronger over the story" it's "character gets bullshit abilities and every battle is a bigger, badder saving the galaxy from destruction fight."



>Power creep isn't "character gets stronger over the story" it's "character gets bullshit abilities and every battle is a bigger, badder saving the galaxy from destruction fight."

Yeah I agree. I was saying that there is some amount of bullshittery that gets brought out, like the spirit tortise abilities and a host of the minor skill shields that allow him to deal with other problems.

The point I was trying to make is that he doesn't only get stronger, but gets knocked down in power level every once in a while so that he can keep fighting enemies who are in the same scale as people he has already defeated, all roughly as powerful as a hero in the upper half of the level spectrum


I'm finally doing it, I'm downloading Hollow Ataraxia because I CANNOT wait for ufotable to animate it.



>he STILL didn't read it

You should start with Tsukihime first though.



Do anons recommend downloading a patch to add voices in? I read that there are no voices on the pc version.



Of HA, that is.



I always recommend voices if they're in Japanese. They add tone/context to scenes that you wouldn't have with just text, even if you don't understand much Japanese they're useful. They'll also make you hate shitty TLs though.


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I added the vita, uncensor, english, and voice patches.

My god, seeing casual caster and rider does things to my body.


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>Lancer picking up a bunch of high school girls

This man has no flaws.




>This man has no flaws.

Except his Luck.



>He doesn't self insert as the one doing the raping

>Harems are NTR

>Meme tentacles are NTR

All porn that involves more than one person might as well be fucking netorare to you. There is a single instance of it in the whole game at the very end, and by that point I had basically already clocked out because I read that whole thing with no breaks but to eat and sleep.


I never once used that word. If that's what you are looking for than you shouldn't be touching anything by alicesoft anyways.


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>Illya's Castle minigame

I was not prepared for this to exist. I was never prepared for something like this.



>There is only one instance

>Clearly three instances posted

Are you pretending to be retarded? Because you clearly lack higher brain functions.



First one is the girl whose entire character is to be raped by faceless bandits you are SUPPOSED to self insert as.

Second one is from a race of elf-succubi who spend all of their time thinking of ways to obtain human sperm and is being raped by faceless bandits you are SUPPOSED to self insert as.

Starting to see a pattern?

The third is the only actual instance of NTR since she is a heroine who ends up marrying MC. This happens right at the very end of the story and is disgusting, but to claim that the whole game is NTR is nothing but some combination of retardation, projection, and insecurity.


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I see three NTR scenes and that you're probably trying to justify your disgusting fetish, and that's about it.

First scene is a virgin girl in a relationship and she's constantly calling out for her lover. At no point are you supposed to self-insert.

Second scene is a virgin girl in a relationship who also has a color-changing gem on her head that permanently reminds her lover that she was raped. Its specifically mentioned in the scene that guys are swapping out so unless you're pretending you're three different dudes, again you aren't supposed to self-insert.

Even if you were supposed to self-insert, wanting to self-insert like that is only one step below being an NTR fetishist but the idea of getting off to cuckolding someone else is extremely normalnigger behavior.

>but to claim that the whole game is NTR is nothing but some combination of retardation, projection, and insecurity.

One drop rule in hentai means that even one scene ruins the entire project. There's a reason games have tanked/Japanese otaku have damn near rioted when a game fails to include the NTR tag/why said games don't sell as well.

Polite sage because I don't want to further sully this thread with your filth.



>At no point are you supposed to self-insert.

Alicesoft games almost always have rape, I don't actually know any instances where they don't. Due to the nature of this setting they can only have the MC rape a few girls. To make up for it they throw in scenes with other faceless men for you to self-insert as.

>unless you're pretending you're three different dudes

There is literally nothing wrong with getting together with your bros to gang rape some dumb whore. It's been the tradition of every army throughout all of human history.

>cuckolding someone else is extremely normalnigger behavior.

I'm going to find your waifu, get a bunch of anons together and gang-rape her as you watch. And you will probably enjoy it.

>Japanese otaku have damn near rioted

They have also proven time and time again to have complete shitty normalfag-tier taste.


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I've been catching up on the adventures of Lolicell. It's less and less /k/ the more I read it and I wish the author wouldn't delve into politics/religion since it's clearly not his forte (not that guns were either), but volume 7 feels like a bit of a let-down since I'm 1/3rd of the way in and we haven't had any of the fun times or even a decent set-up for a fight so far. Rorono a cute, but she needs to lay off the booze and sweets or she'll get fat.


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I think you're fucking scum. I just wanted you to know that.


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>Shirou takes Rider to the movies

What in the absolute fuck did I just watch.



Is that one of the bonus chapters in F/SN? I never read through all.



It's Hollow Ataraxia.


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Reading Death Flags Won't End or whatever it's called. It's kind of fun, like reading about a modern Tales game from a meta perspective.

Having a dense "harem" lead manages to feel fresh, because the mc is such a magnificent jackass to everyone he meets.


It's the best. Also, watch the Carnival Phantasm episode where they play it again, it's great.


Medusa healing.


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I've come to a few conclusions after getting 85% through HA.

First, Rin has run through all of my patience. I tried to give her a chance and have an open mind to see her merits as I'm sure Rinfags will attest to, but for the life of me I cannot like her. Rin has fantastic thighs and buttocks, but everything else about her is unpleasant. She is just a rude, downright abusive person. She is physically, verbally, and mentally abusive. Just a mean girl.

Second, Sakura is the best partner for Shirou. There can be no argument against this.

Third, Rider is unmistakably the best girl in all of Fate.




Even Nasu agrees. I think he said before that Rider in both SN and Zero are his favourite characters.



You are a wise man of fine taste, and culture.


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What an ending. Hollow Ataraxia was very nice. I would love to see a SoL prominently featuring Rider. I want to hug Rider in her turtleneck, Rider is so pretty.

I am starting Tsukihime now.



Don't get your hopes up for Heaven's Feel. Part 2 is almost as completely devoid of Rider as Part 1 was.



Rider is criminally neglected.



>First, Rin has run through all of my patience.

FHA with her was shit, only the eclipse scene was really any good. But she's not very honest in any of the VN's, so I understand why plebs would think this way.

>Second, Sakura is the best partner for Shirou.

Nah, she's the worst. She's everything he is only less vocal and more broken, contrasting and highlighting nothing good about or in him. She's bland and boring, doing nothing to inspire or push him. He'll just rot slowly with her.

>Third, Rider is unmistakably the best girl in all of Fate.

Medusaless is an idiot.



>She is physically, verbally, and mentally abusive.

Like Uro kind of says, she was written as an equal to Shirou. In contrast, Sakura is just a damsel whose biggest strength is that regardless of the abuse heaped on her she'll never break. It's a pretty strong contrast, which explains to a great degree the vocal and violent disagreements between the fans of the two.


There's also F/UC, Tiger Colosseum and Extella, all having her with some form of arcade or side-story mode for more, so there's that if you want more.

Overall she's mostly treated as a joke character though.


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It is a shame and I think that novel has definitely reached and passed its high point. Every instance of city development is basically handwaving it as 'It's a multicultural society with open borders so naturally everything gets better, right?', in addition he's going to have to deal with power creep so I feel like it'll be less about guns from now on and more about super magical guns that shoot god flame bullets.

It's a real shame.



>It's a multicultural society with open borders so naturally everything gets better, right?

This seems to be the norm, and usually there's an oppressive human empire trying to expand too. Whatever happened to humans fighting off a demon invasion and being allowed to be unambiguously good?


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I wish I could have saved her sooner. Kirei is a piece of shit.


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It's been a long time coming. But I've finally decided to read Fate Stay Night. And for being a decade old VN I can totally see how it was regarded as a revolution of the genre at the time with its animations and all star voice cast. Sadly since it is incredibly hard to avoid being spoiled on the main twists of the story at this point in time I can only imagine what it would be like to read this blindly. Where you got a nice cast of characters and there is a possibility that each of them are mortal enemies while the game throws you plenty of red herrings and distractions.

It also occurred to me by reading this is just how bleak and depressing the whole story is when the whole conflict is just based on the arrogance of magic shitters.


Oh, I see this thread has been utterly and completely ruined by TypeMoon faggotry.



The story ended when he fucked Time's daughter and got away with it.

Not that it was anything worthy before, but I think that was a bullshit too hard to swallow.


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I'm doing the same, finally decided to give it a go. Luckily I somehow managed to avoid any and all spoilers about this so far.

I'm amazed that not a single person has tied "and nobody can use the Grail after I do" to their wish. Maybe they tried and it failed, but it seems obvious to deny anyone in the future the ultimate power you have now. Or if they're a moralfag like Shirou, wish for the the Grail to be obliterated to stop the War.



It usually takes a lot of power to destroy something powerful I'm sure a "oh btw"-part of your wish won't be enough. Did you read or watch the prequel Fate/Zero yet?


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I usually like rape, ryona and BAD ENDs but Sword Hero chapters of Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi kinda rub me the wrong way. Hell, I love the works of Oyster but this just made me feel bad.

Maybe it's something about the way the author tries to make it look as if everything the MC does is completely justified.



>all star voice cast

The original release actually did not have any voice acting. They were added in the PS2 release after the first anime adaptation, which is where the voice actors premiered. You'll notice the voices disappear in the magic transfer scenes because the PS2 version was censored. Enjoy the ride. It's a lot of fun.



I actually read past that point and the author claims he "didn't actually fuck her" after alluding to it for an entire volume and they only had some spank-play.



Nope, should I before I keep going?



You can watch it if you are done with Stay Night. It's up to you. Just remember that it wasn't done by Nasu and the portrayal of certain characters might vary.



On second thought, what do you mean with "keep going"? Make sure to play through all routes first as it might spoil future events.


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I just finished reading volume 1 of hyouka and to be perfectly honest, I am not impressed. The anime is superior in nearly every way, like with Oreki thinking or Chitanda's 'I am curious!' Scenes. Besides, a several of the smaller mysteries are anime originals.



I'm doing Stay Night right now, so it sounds like I should save the prequel for afterwards.



Yeah, you should. It's optional even then but I think it's enjoyable.



Nothing is stopping you from bringing up something you like you turbofaggot.


This isn't worth a whole thread anymore but at the very least a post to satisfy those morbidly curious. Index 3 is adapting world war 3 starting at episode 18, episode 19 introduced misaka worst and ended with accelerator vowing to save all the misakas. If my memory is right that puts us near the end of volume 20. A total joke of the war so far. The more painful part is that total idiot secondaries are eating it up and calling it cool and fun while also saying they have no idea what is going on.

One of these days I'll pick up NT21. Rereading the finale is enough to keep me motivated. Does anyone read the non Index Kamachi books (Valkyrie, Heavy Object, etc)? Are they worth reading? Has anyone been keeping up with No Game No Life? I read volume 6 (Shuvi) and 7 (game with the trap) before it was licensed but saw up to volume 10 localized on amazon.



>7 (game with the trap)

Sorry that was volume 4.


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What cover do the paperback english Spice and Wolf novels have? I've seen two versions with the original anime style cover and a 3DPD cover. I'm afraid if I buy them from amazon or barns and noble I'll end up getting the ugly covers. Rightstufanime is having a sale right now so I was wondering if that's my best bet to get the anime style covers.



>What cover do the paperback English Spice and Wolf novels have?

They have both. The 3DPD shit-tier cover is a sleeve-cover/dust-cover that can be taken off if I recall correctly. Any copy officially from Yen Press will have the 3DPD dust cover that mut be removed (a small number was released with the 2D dust cover due to fan backlash, but all "future" copies afterwards feature the 3DPD dust cover with the 2D proper cover underneath).



Ah right, if you order them officially through Yen Press instead of a third party, you can request the proper 2D covers.


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All I want is more Lazy Dungeon Master, Konosuba, and Demon Lord Urban Development. Everything else I can find takes it's fantasy setting and power levels far too seriously or is full on shoujo.


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Wow they really put dust jackets on regular paperbacks? I've never seen that before. Pic related are the two versions without the jackets.


Are you sure you can order through Yen Press directly? On the product page it only lists third party sellers. It also says their contact email is for editorial inquiries. I think contacting RightStuf and asking them might be better.


I fell hard for "Jaku-chara no Tomozaki". Where do people pirate Japanese LN? This is a genre I know nothing about.


Finally just finished Mushoku Tensei (WN). Maybe I am alone on this, but I felt like the ending was very abrupt and disappointing. Even though it’s quite long in pure length, it felt rushed and shortened around the time that Oldeus appeared. A lot of dialogue that should have happened was glossed over and the main cast was put on the back burner. The end itself was unsatisfying and a disservice.



I asked RightStuf if they had the 2D covers and they said the book covers match the cover image on their website. They're on sale so I ordered volumes 1-7.



I'd agree on it being unsatisfying, but I think what happened was the author was getting burned out and knew it, but he wanted to make sure he finished the series/tried to wrap up loose ends. Not all loose ends need to be wrapped up though in a novel, as can be seen in Sevens with many plots not being brought up again or intentionally being ignored (as the author commented on in his Q&A sessions repeatedly, such as the "clear 100 dungeon floors to meet X" plot).


Alright, I'm actually going to do it. I'm going to write my isekai parody. After redoing the first chapter I'll submit it to royal road but I would like someone to proof read it. I don't really know anyone that would be willing to do that so I'm just going to leave my email here on the off chance any of you want to help.




How long would it take to read approximately?



It's just the first chapter, 3.5k words.


>Reading https://oniichanyamete.moe/2017/07/26/arachne-4/ because bored

>According to him, “A beautiful young girl of a different species, that’s super-duper hot! Shit, man, ain’t nothin’ better than becoming a slave to a little girl!”

What the fuck am I reading? Who translated this? Is this a meme or legit?


How can you guys read light novels? Not one of them has had writing that wasn't on par with a YA novel. It's like they're no different than your average fanfiction.


How can you guys watch anime? Not one of them has had writing that wasn't on par with a YA novel. It's like they're no different than your average Saturday morning cartoon.



Trying to force your dick into someone's mouth is a good way to get it mauled.


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>Not one of them has had writing that wasn't on par with a YA novel

>It's like they're no different than your average fanfiction

Stop the presses.



Reading and watching is different fggt. You actually have to think when you read. And anime are Saturday morning cartoons.


I'm not wrong here



I'd need to know what you've read in order to appropriately answer that question.


>And anime are Saturday morning cartoons.

Do you only watch SoL or something? Actually I take that back, even Slice of Life requires some brain cells to properly get the jokes and references.


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You must be making this up man. You can not possibly be serious.


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>Implying anyone can learn Japanese


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Dear /a/,

Would you happen to know why so many light novel translators seem to be fluent in neither English nor Japanese?



It's easy.

LNs is the entry tier for translation, since the barrier for entry is so low. I don't mean that in a linguistic sense, since LNs are actually more likely to have more complex language than manga or anime, but in a technical sense. One guy can easily just open up Word and start typing bullshit, and it's easier to see a project like that through than something that involves more complex skills like cleaning, typesetting, timing etc. When you have to do all that in addition to the translation itself, it scares off a lot of the lazy people who are shit at the languages they're meant to translate to and from because of their laziness, or they might have to work with other people who might just not be willing to work with them at all if they realize that the translator doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.



Two words: Machine Translation.

Raw text can easily be run through a machine for translation by someone who has no fucking clue what one of the sources says.


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>The 3DPD shit-tier cover is a sleeve-cover/dust-cover that can be taken off if I recall correctly


>if you order them officially through Yen Press instead of a third party, you can request the proper 2D covers

That might've been the old way they did it. My books arrived from RightStuf today and all the paperback covers are 2D, including vol 1.


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Since this is also a visual novel thread, I'll leave this here. Minori, the makers of ef, Eden, Supipara, Natsuperu, etc., have announced they're ceasing software development yesterday. Sono hi no Kemono ni wa will be their final release. It doesn't seem like they're shutting down due to financial difficulties, but because they haven't been able to reach some form of harmony between what they want to make and what the audience wants, leading to loss of motivation and willpower which would eventually prevent them from maintaining their quality standards. Also feeling like they had betrayed their fanbase (probably because Supipara was never finished) and that it's a good opportunity to let their staff acquire experience somewhere else.

RIP. I really, really liked their releases and their production values were always superior to other developers. But nothing is permanent, at least they are leaving gracefully instead of cucking themselves.



This. There's basically three types of translators for LNs:

1) People who translate (a rarity, but you'll know them when you see them).

2) People who use a machine but actually do know some Japanese (these people use the machine for speed of not looking up a million obscure kanji rather than because they need it)

3) People who don't know Japanese/THINK they know Japanese so they 100% machine TL something and "edit" it (these are the people who pick up a popular LN someone else was translating, and keep "translating" a work for shekels long after everyone has told them to fucking stop).

The TL market is saturated with number three because normalfag retards keep paying group 3s patreon fees or donation goals despite the shit-tier quality because there's enough suckers in the world to fall for it. This will likely happen to anime/manga more in the coming years as voice recognition software and OCR software continues to improve. You're witnessing what will become of all of our hobby if you don't learn Japanese, anon.


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Being a faggot who uses machine translation is one thing, but asking for money for a fan translation, let alone a machine translation is beneath contempt. Part of me hopes the jews doing official localizations start cracking down on these scumfucks, because I doubt it would affect any of the good translators.



Rest in peace. I'll look forward to what their staff do after this, hopefully many of them form a new development studio. One of the last remnants of that time in VNs is gone. Always keep minority spirit.


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>but because they haven't been able to reach some form of harmony between what they want to make and what the audience wants

I'm scared of knowing what they wanted to make that the audience might disagree with. NTR? Scat? Rape?



I think this may be referring to their past works, and then the works following Supipara. They still had that distinct Minori flavor, but they were more interested in doing something along the lines of ef and Eden.



"there will be several damages incurred. Definitely"

I think it's worse than mere MTL. This is clearly written by someone who speaks English only at a minimal level. Yet they also complain at times about not being able to understand the Japanese. It would be fine if it were a minority, but there seems to be vast tracts of this stuff.


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Not being able to understand the Japanese is a bit more understandable, especially when the author makes really old obscure references that probably not even his Japanese audience would probably get, but having a good grasp of English I'd say is much more important for translation. Language and pretty much all art is by design is a lot easier to understand than to create, and if even if you're working off someone else's art you still need to be skilled at your craft.



ef was great, and Eden was decent. Was it another episode of nips have poor taste?



Contemporary literature is so terrible that young adult literature is better than "adult" literature and Japanese YA lit has more insights into American life than American YA.


I agree with >>909206 and >>909587,

the translations are done mainly by weebs with machine translation and Japs with basic high school English.

The result is that it's rarely idiomatic. But it does make it useful for people who understand just a little bit of japanese, because you can normally follow exactly how different phrases and terms are used (because they are translated word-for-word).

I assume that a native English-speaker with fluent Japanese has more profitable uses for that talent than fan translations. Native Japanese with high-school English is very common.

Partnerships between native japanese and native english-speakers would probably produce better results, but when you're putting that level of organization into it you might as well make a formal offer to the publisher.


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I've been reading Atelier Tanaka. It's about a wizard who asks to be beautiful but god tells him that's the one thing fate can't make happen, so he asks for healing magic to cure STDs instead. Every girl he meets is a whore or a dyke though.


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Truly it's garbage on a whole new scale, which makes it an enjoyable read.


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>Would it be fine even if this middle-aged oyaji’s uncut dick were to brush against the surface of this expensive looking fluffy white robe belonging to ojou-sama? Would it really be alright? I can’t guarantee that none of my hair would wind up getting stuck on the robe when I make vigorous movements. It’ll definitely happen.

<“I-It’s fine! H-H-H-Hurry up and conceal it–!” [Ester]

>Ester-chan cried out, blushing furiously.

<However, her eyes, with a bright sparkle seemed to fall upon my son. I felt overwhelmed by the gaze. Moreover, the fact that it was coming from a non-virgin made me confused. She should have familiarized herself with Allen’s penis by now.


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>a dyke though

Picked up! I hope she doesn't start to lust for his dick later.


I've always wondered: who the hell is to blame for the relatively recent surge in isekai? I mean I know it's always been there and it's kinda winding down now but I want to know who kickstarted the recent uptick in the genre. Was it Noboru Yamaguchi with Zero no Tsukaima back in the early '00s?



I don't know what started the resurgence but I think Konosuba and Re:Zero are the ones that popularized it and showed that there's potentially shitloads of money to be made with isekai LNs.



>Konosuba and Re:Zero are the ones that popularized

I doubt it. Konosuba was a parody and isekai was already well established by then, ReZero is even newer.

I assume SAO made the genre popular, even if that isn't an actual isekai.



Yeah, it could have been SAO's original web run around '02 that did it. Interesting.



>I haven’t read it completely since the vertical arrangement of the characters confuses me greatly.

They're not Japanese.

>was purposefully made sweet using flavoring, making them easy to intake.

Don't appear to be English either.


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I'm gonna pick up Slayers here, not Goblin Slayer, just Slayers. The old ones, not the new ones. Link related if other anons wish to join me.


After that, I think it's time I start getting into something other than my typical isekai junk I'm always reading. I need to read something more substantial or SoL, or just something other than the constant isekai I ingest for fun.



So far she's consistently not lusted for his dick, but then it's only translated through some of volume 4. They did share a heart-to-heart about some slut's awesome tits though.


My death flags show no sign of ending updated at the end if March. Hopefully the Translator is still able to put out new content at a steady pace now. Seems his country is having political turmoil and that's why he hasn't updated since end of December.



God Lina makes my dick rock hard. Slayers needs more service.


So far I'm not sure how I feel about Slayers. The writing reads like westernshit (like A Christmas Story or Babysitters club or one of those) half the time and like bar talk the other half. I don't like it, but I don't necessarily hate it either.


>I forgot about Grimgar for months because I started playing dungeon crawlers

>Only started playing them again because Grimgar made me miss them

I wish they had killed off Ranta instead. How Volume 8 plays out just made me want to skip the volume entirely.



What dungeon crawlers did you play? I've been meaning to pick one up because of these isekais I've been catching up on.


I finished up volume 1 of slayers. It was pretty good, made me feel like I was watching 80s/early 90s anime again. I still hate the way the author does it from Lina's perspective fluffing the text, but it's good fun so that can be ignored.


>Reincarnating into a Fantasy world as an Autonomous Machine Arsenal

It's a cheap entertaining read if you're into that kind of thing. I'd go so far as to say it's not bad.

>Human race constructs METAL GEARS that can enhance themselves and genocide 2/3rd of a galactic empire of humans

>Finally put them down through a pyrrhic victory

>The last one reincarnates into a fantasy setting with some chump it killed when it nuked Tokyo or something

It starts tripping over itself later but the initial premise was entertaining.


A couple nights ago an anon mentioned doing an LN/WN/VN club. Is that still a possibility?



Yeah. I gotta work out the details but I was thinking it could be a bi-weekly or monthly novel/volume since novels are more a format to discuss over a period of time/don't need a weekly airing to follow (unless we want to have a stream of anon reading the novel).




I would be cool with that. I mean, as long as you dont have us read books that are too shit tier.

You have ideas for novels already, or planning to do like a poll or something?


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That's the hard one. If it's Isekai or Fantasy I have plenty of books to choose from, but ideally we would do a different genre every month. Maybe SoL one month, SciFi another month, Comedy the next month, etc. To this end I don't want to make it polling since that's what killed the anime club but we may need to utilize polling to at least gauge interest in which book would be best to choose after the genre has been narrowed down for that month.


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Actually, let's do a pilot of it here in the LN thread to judge reactions. The first novel I was going to use as the pilot to gauge interest is Three Days of Happiness by Sugaru Miaki.

>Three Days of Happiness is a novel by Sugaru Miaki, also known as Fafoo. It’s a rewritten version of the story originally posted to 2ch.

>The premise of the story revolves around a shop where one can sell away the remaining years of their life, and the consequences of doing so.

PDF Version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B075-RPoqHSkZ0VoVExfYi1pVWM/view

We will have until Sunday, May 5th at 1AM Alaskan Time to finish reading it. It's roughly 221 pages of reading, so that would be ~12 pages per day (221 pages should be easy enough to read). We'll hold an interim starting roughly Saturday April 27th to discuss chapters 1-9 (chapter 10 begins on page 114). We'll also decide if that's too long of a time frame for anons to join in or not. Ideally I think a reading average of "30 pages/day" is reasonable and doable for the average anon since the average person reads at a rate of 1 page every 2 minutes, but it's better to start small like this, where we're only asking for about 20-30 minutes of anon's time per day.



Well, I for one read all sorts of Fantasy and Isekai already, so whatever you decide i probably wont mind. I would not mind mixing it up for once though.

I think that having a limited amount of choices to choose from is a decent way to go about it if you cant decide.



I downloaded it. Ill start reading on my break tomorrow at work. Ill tell you how many pages I read at what pace to give you some data to work with.



Reminds me of a old kids book I read about a kid being given a ball with a string and everytime he pulled the string he'd get to skip to the next stage of his life. It ended with him smashing it to get his years back, but it stuck with me.



I only got through the first chapter today. I did not have a lot of time for reading, only like 10 min.



Cool, so it sounds like we should probably keep it at 8-12 pages/day as the "expectation" going forward.



There is a phenomenon, for lack of a better word, that I read about in high school. When you watch a movie or TV show/book, you have 10 minutes/pages to catch the attention of the viewer/reader. If you fail to get their attention, they will turn away from the medium and or become very bored and have to slog through it.

For years now, I have been reading only books that I personally have chosen to read, and it would seem I have forgotten what it feels like to start a book, not be taken in by it, and yet keep reading. Its a feeling that I have not had since the last time I had a literature class.

I dont want to make it seem like I am dissatisfied or anything with the choice of story, being only a few dozen pages into the thing. Rather, I just wanted to mention the feeling I was having and the thoughts it evoked.

This premise is so wildly outside my strike zone, and I know very little about the book, so I guess I truly dont know what to expect for the first time in a long time. When you read a book that is the same genre of story that you typically read, you start to notice the similarities between the stories on a meta level. You know what to expect or how the genre as a whole would be expected to progress, and you can make judgments or predictions from there.

I have never read a story like this. I have never really been into any of the genres that are even remotely similar to this. It is entirely foreign to me.

I dont really know how I feel about that yet. Logic would dictate that this should be an exciting emotion and I would be invested more in it, but so far I feel tepid at best. Maybe it is because I dont know what to expect that my cynicism is coming out. I hope I will find my expectations exceeded.


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Please keep me informed on this, anon. I want to pick light novels that will be enjoyable, but will get anons outside their comfort zones since I think part of both expanding horizons and training those higher senses like willpower as you're describing should be integral to a light novel club. Just as the DIC is about improving drawing, QADJT is about learning moon, and anime club is about exposing anons to old anime from back in the day in a group environment, I want the light novel club to improve anons' lives and perhaps expose them to things they would normally not find themselves reading. I was sort of going exactly for that response you had, but I want to ensure what we're reading is still fun. I want the goals of the light novel club to be fourfold.

>1) Expose anons to new novels and new genres they normally wouldn't read and do so in a group discussion environment so we're on the same page.

>2) Help anons build up willpower and similar mental processes to help them succeed in their day-to-day lives through a simple but conscious task (exactly what you're describing, though it might not seem obvious at a glance).

>3) Have something anons can discuss together once or twice a month on a "level" playing field.

>4) Get more anons to read light novels/Get anons to read more light novels.

Ideally I would like anons who participate to experience at least two out of four of those goals in a given "quarter," but we'll see how it all goes. Thank you for participating! Ganbatte!


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Just finished Vol 4 of Shield Hero. Man Blood Sacrifice was so fucking edgy I loved it and hope it's properly adapted in the anime cause I've been a bit disappointed with it's pacing



The phenomenon you're describing is an integral part of story telling. Stories have an intrinsic need to captivate their audiences early on. For books that is usually the very first sentence. Songs have their openings. For manga, the art is eye catching. For movies, the intro draws the viewer into focus shame so few movies have good openings. Too many of them open up with meaningless visuals coupled with credits. Look at Casino Royale for an example of a good one.


Im busy all day with Easter stuff, so I may not remember to read the bit today. This brings up the question on how we should deal with Holidays.



So I am done with Chapter 6 now, and I cannot for the life of me understand why MC is listening to anything at all that the Observer is saying about any of his plans.

She is killing any and all motivation he has for any single act he works up the motivation to tackle. If I were in his position, I would have asked her to not speak to me about any of the situations I am going to be tackling. He would probably fail and stuff, but thats part of living.




Alright, nevermind, I just sat down and finished it all in one sitting now. Ill leave what I thought in spoilers, so its written while still fresh in my mind but so that you can come back and read it when you are done.

Overall: A bit morose but not a bad read in and of itself. I found it a bit corny at times, especially toward the end, but I cannot blame him for doing what he did.

On the MC: Guy has a real character arc, and more than once had me feeling bad with some lines that hit a little too close to home. Still kinda processing that. I think I like him overall by the end.

On the Childhood friend: I knew that the love interest was not going to be the friend by chapter 7 or 8, but I didn't really expect the bitch to be a super crazy grudge machine. I really dont get her character at all as far as the resolution goes. I was expecting her to have been soured on him and have moved on.

On the Observer: Chick sounds like a QT from the descriptions and right up my alley, so I cannot blame the dude for falling for her. I think that her backstory was a little bit too contrived, but that may just be my distaste for the sins of the father falling to the son type stuff she had going on. I'd have told those ghost thots to shove their debt up their ass and that I didn't owe them dick with the mother abandoning me at all. Face fate with a fist not a bent knee. Same problem I had with the game Recettear actually. I know it may not have gotten me a good ending to do such a thing, but I would not stand for it if I was in her position.

On the Ending: I must not be the romantic type because this shit enraged me. I think it was trying to be a happy ending but it was not for me, it was just infuriating. I would have just gone with a straight tragic end instead of some bull halfway happy halfway tragic end. The title kinda gave away what was going to happen though, so I saw it coming by the next to last chapter. I would personally have ended it with him living the last three days with all the friends that he made, tying up lose ends and living a life of happiness confident in knowing that he saved his woman's life. I cannot adequately express how pissed off t makes me to see all his hard work and determination to give her a better life just thrown out the window. If she was going to just buy out her life, and have money to spare she should have at least negotiated with him to make it so they both had an equal amount of time from that extra money. God. Women.



I read it in two days in around 6 hours of read time.


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Anybody know if the LN/WN for this has been translated anywhere?

Title is

The Hero Who Returned Remains the Strongest in the Modern World


異世界帰りの勇者が現代最強! 異能バトル系美


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That's a manga, dude. There's The Return of the Former Hero which is probably similar, and The Middle-aged Man who just Returned from Another World Melts his Fathercon Daughters with his Paternal Skill that recently has a TL pick it back up after being in hell for a year and a half, but what you're looking for is a manga (or an untranslated LN if it is one).


Were would one acquire the RAWS for a light novel? I specifically want Koukoku no Shugosha.



>The Middle-aged Man who just Returned from Another World Melts his Fathercon Daughters with his Paternal Skill

Why do these get published?



Why not? An isekai anime with a wholesome father-daughter relation.



I used the wrong word. It's How. How do those get published. It's like publishing the latest thing out of fanfiction.net. Then again, there's Twilight. Huh.



Japan has a huge entertainment industry. Lots of people writing shit and lots of people willing to publish it.



There is nothing strange in it. A lot of popular works in the west started as web novels or blog entries. It's just that there are more such works in the Japan.



Is there any statistic about the yearly publication of light novel in Japan?



This went downhill and became garbage so fast how the fuck.



Are you the same anon? Status report.



Uh, yes, it's a manga, and it's also an LN. Just like many, many other series.

The raw text is easy to find of the LN, but I haven't found any translations, which is precisely why I'm asking if it's been translated anywhere.

I wasn't sure if it's also in WN form so I thought I'd throw that out there as well.



I've not found anything as far as an English translation goes, though I believe I found the raw text. Probably same source you did.




LNs are basically dime store novels 90% of the time. They're the equivalent of pulp fiction or those smut novels that 30 year old women buy/read. And that's perfectly ok.



They are cheap media and their quality reflects that, but that is just fine.


I keep hearing about light novels but are there any fantasy/sci-fi (proper) novels out there aside from kafkaesque stuff?



Sure, there's this one called just look for yourself instead of asking for sauce on /a/, fag. Just pick one up on NovelUpdates or something that hasn't got a TL in hiatus. If you like it, look at the recommendations. If you don't, pick up the next one. I can think of three off the top of my head that match your description without even looking, but spoonfeeding means you won't look for something yourself and potentially bring your own anon-approved material back to the thread.



Spoiler but she doesn't even stay dead, or wholly dead. Honestly the story has gone completely off the rails at the end of one of the novels the author admits that he doesn't plan out his stories and it really shows.

It's not as bad as heresy spider but it's literally a succession of random events it's not even about real people struggling in a fantasy world anymore (though for the beginning of one chapter it was).



The later volumes really don't bear much resemblance to the first few, honestly. I'll only keep reading to find out where the fuck the author will end up going with it.



Rantas story is still sane though minus his partial chubby for the other group, the rest of the crew are literally in wonderland.



All I wanted was comfy Volunteer Soldier adventures. Why can't the author write something straightforward and not insane?



If you read the stuff after the novels he just has really bad writing habits, he needs an outline and to commit to it.



Why doesn't his editor step in, I wonder?


I hate to beg, but is there a decent source of LNs from stuff like J-novel club? Some kind of madokami equivalent? hopefully without the FTP password autismrip ;_;

I've been getting everything from random megas/wordpress sites and that's a little tiresome, is everyone just suffering the same?



I mean, that is how I do it.



You don't use NovelUpdates? It's basically MAL for novels and you can set it up easily enough to notify you when X or Y updates their shit. There's a few MTL sites that host dozens of LNs, but those sites are virus-ridden garbage with equally garbage TLs.



I do, but I'm also looking for things where there is an official translation, and the fan translations have dropped or taken down all their stuff. There are rips, but they're so hard to find.


So how goes everyone else's read of 3 Days of Happiness? At the rate of reading set out in the beginning, anyone partaking should be a decent way into the book now at very least.



I almost finished it and I despise the premise, if the conversion tables are right his life is literally worth less than minimum wage. I just have a hard time accepting someone just going through the worlds dumbest suicide and who gets the years he sells? How is the business enriched in gaining them?



>if the conversion tables are right his life is literally worth less than minimum wage

There is no conversion needed, his actual value was something like 30 dollars total, right?

I don't think it is the worlds dumbest suicide, I think that it is people selling off their potential value in an effort to live their life while younger. Selling a long lifespan for quick gain.

I don't think that it is entirely reasonable, but I can kinda get it.

>Who gets the years he sells

Probably people who have the opposite problem, those with lots of money and little time. As far as the people with shit lives who sell it to avoid suffering, I have no idea who would buy that life. People who are poor and scared of death maybe?

>How is the business enriched in gaining them?

I see one of two things. Its either that they are making money off of the sale of life time, and running a business that way, or it is an entirely supernatural operation that uses the life for some purpose beyond human understanding.



Based on the image posted, it sounds more like fans wanted stuff like ef and Eden*, but minori felt they weren't capable of producing things like that. Though I'm a little suspicious about the whole thing since they bring up the "broken promise" that is Supipara like anyone gave a shit about it. Almost makes me wonder if it wasn't that minori wanted to do more like Supipara but were disheartened by the fact that their recent titty monster eroge have done a million times better than it did.



>Probably people who have the opposite problem

Which makes them priceless no matter what kind of shit life he has, unless you get infected by his luck (which he proves impossible by making things better with his time) buying extra time on the clock would be crazy sought after and expensive.

The only way to make sense of it is to accept it as supernatural dickery but it still doesn't make sense that a person would trade any of their lifespan for chump change you lose far less time from your life working for mcdonalds.

Using yen to USD conversion they offered him ~3k for 30 years, at $7.50 an hour it would take you 400 hours or ~17 days to earn that money, it's trading something priceless for something worthless. I couldn't get into the story because the premise just bothered me too much, it's like getting paid 3 grand to contract pancreatic cancer no retard would actually go for it. And I find the moral of the story deranged a short time spent well lived is not worth a miserable lifetime especially when that misery is self-inflicted. At least her killing herself so she can spend her last moments with him makes sense since she's been a "ghost" since she was 10.

I like the idea of man dates invisible gf then everyone can see her one day, everything else I found off-putting.


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Sure, but it's pretty retarded.

>Novel starts out with the autonomous mech designed as a samson option reincarnating into fantasy world

>Immediately builds a FOB, begins studying the unknown stars for consistency to figure out what's going on, and subjugating/annihilating anything that comes within viewing distance of it

>Nukes a city on the off chance it has a Herald that will call down a god on him

>This summons one of the gods, which he blasts with a railgun after it tries to flex on him

Up until this point, it's a kind of guilty pleasure read. But any originality it has dies at this stage, because he 'levels up' and gets a new flesh body. This also removing his apocalyptic arsenal and he has to relearn it all with magitech, turning it into a dime a dozen trash isekai.

Oh, it also starts dumping in comic relief characters left and right, which always seems to happen when a author runs out of ideas.


I can only find four volumes of Youjo Senki on madokami, is there more translated or is this really it?



Found the 5th volume after looking in the usual places.


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Are you the type of person who asks to be spoonfeed by the cashier when going to a restaurant? You're in front of a web-capable device, and while the smartphone generation has always been incompetent when it comes to technology, it starts to reach levels of incompetence that would even embarrass the average senior citizen. Stop asking other anons to use search engines for you. It's an official translation, release dates are announced months in advance.



I'm sorry.


The Alderamin translation restarted not too long ago. The quality is pretty horrible though.



>just how bleak and depressing the whole story is

I'm late to the discussion, but if that looks depressing to you, don't ever come close to Tsukihime, where you only deal with aftershocks of a long dead villain and can't resolve anything significant in the process.


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Any recommendations for some light novels more suitable to public reading? Most of my current PTRs don't really fit the bill. Want to get in more miscellaneous reading when I can fit in the time, but don't want three page spreads of scantily clad 2D beauties (or gore and the like) popping out for peering eyes when I open the book. Kind of thinking shorter series, maybe 1-4 books, since I'll mostly be reading in 15-20 minute bursts over a longer period of time. Can read Japanese, so no worry about translation status. Would rather avoid isekai and sports-based for the most part. Thank you for any suggestions.


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Those who sacrifice cute girls for normalfag acceptance deserve neither.



A real Chad would just look at whatever porn he is into in public without any fear of ridicule. If you can't take a few seconds to admire some anime tits, you are never going to make it.



Dont be such a fucking pussy, read whatever you want.




If I were just going to be reading on a park bench or something I wouldn't be as apprehensive, but among other things I'm thinking about reading at work or places children would be; places where risque or macabre content wouldn't really be acceptable. Cute girls are a-okay, I don't care about trying to hide my power level, I just don't want to share their amorous charms with anybody else.



How about you stop sharing your stupid problems with us?



This honestly sounds interesting even if I'm kinda late to the party. Only question I have is where do I find raws? I'd like to read the original if possible. Sorry for asking for spoonfeeding.


My latest guilty pleasure: Maou-sama, Retry!


I like it better than its manga-ization. Looking forward to the anime that's planned to be aired in autumn.



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I've been finishing thr monogatari chapters i should have been done with years ago, and got done with all of the Re Zero Side stories, so i recently got hands on this new LN about a RPG job called "Oda Nobunaga" which in RPG world would be equivalent of literal Demon Lord. (pic related)

>I've been reading Shield Hero's WN.

Well that's your first and biggest mistake, to read a very mediocre novel written and illustrated by two sandwich makers and washing machines, which has nothing but elements of a shoujo on periods once you take out the isekai, and the MRA vibes.

Because the story is black and white as fuck in it, and characters can put stereotypes itself to shame, and whole false rape accusations and getting back at the "bitch" is just trying to suck our dicks, so like moths to flame, we run to it like morons, ofcourse she can get away with this with no issue, her V Card made her free of any backlash, she's getting best of both worlds, other than crying feminists on twitter who think it was done by a guy.

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