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File: b4580a75fcb70c9⋯.jpg (119.41 KB, 468x534, 78:89, 1546171588361.jpg)

 No.892468

Spoilers are out and they fucking suck as per usual. Also Hori said 2019 is going be crazy, which means he's going to fall apart like he always does and drag us through another half dozen training arcs.

After all we've already been set up with everyone in Class A being a jobber so it's only fitting we watch them all learn to be prepared when the actual story happens

 No.892543

>10 out of 13 pages are flashbacks

You can't make this shit up.


 No.892557

File: 43460a137c1cec4⋯.jpg (1.65 MB, 800x1167, 800:1167, Clipped.jpg)

File: b1ef62769cd277e⋯.jpg (55.39 KB, 353x415, 353:415, Wiping sweat.jpg)

I'm catching up on Vigilantes.


 No.892568

>>892557

Crab girl was great. Fun quirk too. Even with Vigilantes losing steam after Knuckleduster just kinda left it's still proving to be the better series.


 No.892585

So Deku's new move is literally going to be "try harder."


 No.892590

File: 8321e7ebcb0d5b1⋯.png (21.67 KB, 154x91, 22:13, rape.png)

Boku no Hero Academia is a mistake.


 No.892603

>introducing even more boring one-dimensional characters

Boy I can't wait for the lineup of cliches that will be all these OfA ancestor mooks and their inevitable training arcs.


 No.892620

>>892610

Avatar last airbender.


 No.892633

Can we expect him to go on hiatus like Togashi. The way the story has been meandering, I think it's obvious he's hit a creative slump. Trying to buy time but that spark just hasn't hit him yet. If he doesn't step it up in 2019, this might go the way of Bleach in the worst case scenario.


 No.892656

File: 94a26bd47e89270⋯.jpg (15.65 KB, 250x250, 1:1, HeroAcaOchakoGun.jpg)

>Half a chapter again

>Ochako doesn't do anything again

>It's just Shinso

>We didn't even get any development with Deku and Uraraka

I've about had it with this arc.


 No.892674

>>892610

Sevens.


 No.892680

>>892633

I get the feeling he wanted there to be a timeskip after the All Might vs AfO fight, but he didn't follow through. It's a shame, the manga felt like it was really picking up momentum up to that point and a timeskip would have been a great opportunity to take off. Unfortunately I get the feeling he doesn't actually know where he's going with any of this. Also he already has too many characters, he needs to stop adding them and start telling stories with the ones he's got.


 No.892684

>>892656

All the action in this chapter and all of Ochako's flashback could have been handled in one page each. We could have gotten a page or two of something actually fucking happening because this slow boil on OFA going nuts has been half a year in the making and it still hasn't amounted to much, because Deku has barely been in the spotlight for his own fucking series.

Seems like Hori is on the verge of crumpling beneath the pressure of his success and this series is about to go on an untimely hiatus at this rate.


 No.892707

>>892680

>Also he already has too many characters, he needs to stop adding them and start telling stories with the ones he's got.

Hori's going to add more characters, introducing the majority of Class C, why they're somehow better than Class B and also better than Class A because they have been secretly training in the background and is somehow secretly better than theory and practical experience with even more gimmicky quriks.


 No.892721

File: 7c9efde772ec6d7⋯.jpg (55.28 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, boat.jpg)

>>892707

>writing a very long lackluster ark which keeps on stretching with events that aren't involved with the main story

>introduces dozens of characters that no-one wants, and will be thrown to the bin during the next ark

>"B-but look at those cool powers, aren't they cool?"

>Forgets about the MC

You don't say.


 No.892737

>>892610

Nigger are you retarded, every modern "Epic" tale has this.


 No.892779

>>892707

Just you wait until Hori reintroduces the students from other hero schools and introduces dozens of new ones from previously unheard of hero schools. And those students will be better than all of UA, have quirks that coincidentally act as hard counters to UA students, and their abilities will be super niche and so situational that they're virtually impractical. There will be one brief passing line of dialogue to justify all of this, along the lines of; "These schools which typically have mediocre reputations saw how much UA has been humiliated by villains that they decided to improve like never before!"


 No.892781

File: 95eda67a4e06ac2⋯.jpg (272.95 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mpv-shot0103.jpg)

>waifu

Ugh.

>Uraraka

More like Uragiri.

<wants to be hero?

<more like just wants money

<worst conviction than all of 1A

<villains bribed her to be the UA traitor


 No.892783

File: f140857ecc615f3⋯.png (826.82 KB, 1007x891, 1007:891, Anger doesn't even BEGIN t….png)

I will never. EVER. Forgive Horikoshi for sweeping Gentle under the rug in exchange for FIVE FUCKING DUMBASS TRAINING FIGHTS WITH NO STAKES. And then he has the gall to introduce a new fucking power to Deku. Gentle was the second best thing to happen to this series behind Red Riot Unbreakable, why does Horikoshi have such a knack for finding the least interesting thing to do with his setting and reveling in that shit?


 No.892784

>>892680

>timeskip

>almost all of 1A have no backstory (yet or ever) and are normalfags

>none of them have in-depth character/backstory dissection except Shoto which is obvious on the first-latest seasons

>probably that hypnosis guy is much more interesting than Deku

>the villains probably have an even more interesting backstory too but probably none was written yet

Might be a creative slump. Considering the most recycled plot was

>be 1A

>training time

>get attacked by the league of villain

>hah! they only made this class stronger

What next? Introduce more weirdo characters? This could've gone better if the show was actually planned as a typical fighting game franchise.

They also fucked up with these srsly_wut quirks like that 1B? invisible guy who has speech bubbles or mediocre quirks like "creati".

Since Deku didn't meet the real enemy at the beginning (which is the rule on most films because the worst enemy which is not related or MC nevermet and coming at the end of the show makes it a tale of mystery).

All I hope for is Deku dad is alive and IS the worst villain existent (much worse than AF1) while also Deku manifesting his dad's powerful quirk which is an Evil quirk and there's nothing Deku can do to it so he becomes Fallen Deku.


 No.892811

>>892779

The big cast isn't so much of a problem if it's done organically. For a little while, it seemed like Hori had the right idea when it came to the side characters: Introduce them briefly, have them around when it makes sense, but don't take the spotlight off the main cast when big stuff is happening. This would mean you could, for instance, see Onomatopoeia guy in the background many chapters ago, maybe even using his power, but not having the action stop to explain it or highlight it. Much later in the series, he shows up again, uses his power to do something minor, but then goes back to doing shit in the background until he's relevant again.

The only way to handle large casts is to use them for worldbuilding. Make it so the world feels alive by having these different entities moving around and doing their own shit in the background. Have the audience peripherally aware of them, but NEVER take focus away from the story or downplay the importance of the protagonists to the audience, just so you can show off the dozen new half-assed character ideas you came up with.


 No.894768

File: f228c5d5a033ee4⋯.png (201.6 KB, 549x344, 549:344, quirks come from the toe.PNG)

Do quirks come from the toe or from the virus?


 No.894781

>>894768

It's probably more that they noticed a correlation between having one less joint in your pinky toe and having super powers. it's possible that whatever causes super powers also caused that mutaion.


 No.894791

You guys are losing sight of the big picture here.

The cast has to be big, otherwise there won't be anyone left once hori starts killing them off.


 No.894798

>>894791

The motherfucker has only killed one major character and two goons. He's not killing shit.


 No.894803

>>894791

>You guys are losing sight of the big picture here. The cast has to be big, otherwise there won't be anyone left once hori starts killing them off.

That would be great. Except for the fact that this will be the result:

> Oh no, that one character I saw that one time is dead. I wish I cared.

I personally think it would be hilarious and entertaining if villain arcs escalated into massive wipeouts of hero students, it would appease my inner edgelord. But my rational side tells me that after more or less a handful die, the impact of that would be dull to every reader because those characters would be by definition expendable.


 No.894804

>>894798

>one major character

Are you talking about All Might's sidekick or some shit?

Does he even really count as major? He existed for a single arc and was pretty much just an annoying faggot with a boring plot power.

I think most people felt relieved when this guy died, I was sadder when the hero with the sand quirk got killed just because the government was too incompetent to provide enough security for prisoner transport.


 No.894808

>>894798

Didn't a lot of people die during the OFA vs AFO fight? Don't tell me all those buildings were unoccupied.


 No.894818

>>894808

Unnamed characters don't count


 No.894866

>>892543

We're getting into Saint Seiya territory here


 No.894992

File: 78920d99ecf8421⋯.png (124.54 KB, 306x304, 153:152, 1532527098927.png)

Does anyone else think Hori is a massive cunt behind the scenes? Like timid and meek in public but just an autistic asshole to his assistants?


 No.894993

>>892783

And I thought halfchan bait was bad


 No.895009

>>894992

They're Japanese, it's pretty much a given that everyone above you abuses you.


 No.895034

Anyone with some scientific knowledge who can help me with a qwirk concept? basically this, if the character in question is nicknamed "collider" and he/she is basically a human "particle collider", what kind of things can he/she do and not do? what kind of limitation or drawbacks you think said qwirk would have?


 No.895039

File: 36e3e0d05768be8⋯.gif (947.17 KB, 268x150, 134:75, Finger_Beam.gif)

>>895034

>human "particle collider"

Legitimate question, do you even know what that means or did you just want to come up with a cool idea for a character and this was what came to mind? I assume they would be a regular human that can spawn particles and shoot them at high speeds towards someone thus giving her a similar effect to a collider but a collider itself doesn't spawn particles it just collides them using magnetic fields I believe. This might seem overpowered until you realize the user has weaknesses that can make them fuck up, all you have to do is run faster than her field of direction to avoid the shot. Depending on the particle they could do a lot, even opening a black hole but that would cause too much damage. It would be too reckless and too hard to successfully fight someone with unless the user has high combat skills without the power, reducing the qwirk to a gun essentially. Gif related is how I view this as but instead of light there's an actual particle being shot so fast it leaves a beam behind for a few seconds. Either way unless the user is so op they're Mary Sue tier op in terms of skill without the qwirk it would just be a kid struggling to even fight. The character would either be very op and edgy or very nervous and pathetic, probably got imprisoned by the government for their own good.Excuse the gif it was the quickest one I could find.


 No.895106

>>895039

I have a vague understanding on what a particle accelerator would be in fiction, something akin to Ghostbuster's proton packs, originally I was thinking of someone who would be able to control gravity in a different way than Uraraka, mostly to alter gravity fields around inorganic matter in a small area, basically like throwing a stone "charged" with higher gravity as to make it "heavier" and stuff but then I realized that having the limitation being "could create a black hole but that would destroy the planet" kind of thing to be just too OP and predictable.


 No.895107

After careful reading I guess is just too OP and yes, too Mary Sue to just try to handicap, the only other option was going for an "accelerator" but not the OP Index one, more like what I mentioned, something like a proton pack or ironically, a railgun, I was thinking he could just turn a homemade gun with two rails into a weapon to channel the qwirk into a bullet or something, on the other hand it seems quite generic.


 No.895157

>>895107

Are you writing fanfictions? Don't do that.


 No.895181

>>895157

Not quite, I just exercise my brain, basically I never write them.


 No.895363

>>894791

>Nana

>major character

We don't know anything about her


 No.895366

>>892783

>Juzofag(Danes) is here too

Is ANYWHERE safe from your autism?


 No.895404

If Shiggy wanted to take down the Symbol of Peace, why didn't he use a gun? And don't say he couldn't get a gun in Japan, he has a teleporter on his team.


 No.895441

>>895107

>>895106

>>895039

>>895034

That power could be balanced by character needing to use up his or her body particles as fuel to propel the particles, source for the particles. If character uses that power to much, it would eventually start to drain particles from fat, muscle, and connective tissues, possibly devouring the owner. Properly aiming beams could also require a lot of focus. Things like loud noises, limited visibility, cold, stress etc. could cause the ability to misfire or backfire.

It could be taken further, and making smaller beam more difficult to aim accurately, so character has to create larger beams of particles, while making sure to not use too many particles and devour the body itself, all while holding completely still.

With these limitations, character would be better suited as a support or tech maker. Otherwise, it would be somewhat redundant with yet another character who needs to eat constantly to use his quirk, and another character who can shoot beams. Still, Hori has no qualms about having multiple super strength, fire, and 'needs to eat to use a quirk' characters.


 No.895443

>>895404

Possibilities:

>wide range of tough gun control in Japan

>All Might being a buff steel tank with high reflexes

>Shiggy is a manchild

>shonen plotlines in a comic book world


 No.895466

File: b28babaa13b7dbf⋯.png (765.02 KB, 1278x720, 71:40, confused_dog_girl.png)

>>895443

>guns

Did Nippon in the HeroAca Universe outlaw firearms for everyone outside the SDF?

Is there even a SDF???


 No.895609

>>892656

>>892781

Ochako a shit

>>892783

The best things that happened to this series are AfO vs All Might, Bakugo vs. Deku, Endevor vs High End, and Gentle


 No.895880

>>892783

>>895609

> Gentle

Gentle was boring and pointless. Not even saying I would have preferred another big power battle. I just mean Gentle was boring and pointless.

The reason why he was pointless was because he didn't lead to anything. And sure, he could be used to set something up for later but that remains to be seen. His story was also not allowed to be impactful. The stakes was that if detected the festival would have been called off and a loli's smile would have been ruined. Unfortunately, if those are the stakes, then for him to have had any impact, that should have been allowed to happen. But Hori made one major mistake with him. He wanted both the festival and Gentle. Instead of Deku being the incidental deciding factor, it was really Hori in the background realizing he wanted the festival to absolutely happen. Hori needed to give Gentle his own space in the story and not be the non-conflict of the festival.

For example, they could have still set him up, just save the scenes revealing him until afterwards and make the festival the point he decides to go big from then on. Have a hero on festival security duty talking with that watchdog hero in charge of security, maybe that giant type girl. The watchdog hero asks her if there's anything to report. She says no, that there was this couple loitering at the perimeter but that's about it. He raises an eyebrow and asks for more information like who they were but instead she comments on the outfit the guy wore and that he was too old for the other girl. He shrugs and sighs. After the festival, have a flashback to Gentle and that girl, and how that giant girl's rude behavior lit a fire in Gentle but instead of making a scene he decides that retreating is the best course so that he can launch bigger schemes.

The reason why he was boring is a lot simpler. His motivation was set up so quickly that it was weak on its own. He was stuck between gag character and quirky silly anti-villain with a(n) tragic unfortunate backstory. I couldn't take him seriously and I couldn't see him as funny. I was legitimately surprised to see anyone care. I was convinced he was glorified filler to add some stakes to the festival, just another example of a last minute fight you see in actual filler from other shonen. For all of that I see Gentle as more botched delivery than wasted potential.


 No.896102

File: ee16e6c2120379b⋯.gif (181.81 KB, 500x500, 1:1, loading.gif)

>>895880

Though you make a generally solid case, I do disagree with you on the 'no stakes' point.

It wasn't that fact the loli wasn't going to smile as much as the entire school was going to be shut down. It was evident already that the system was under threat; and with the media circus already descending on them pre and post Kamino they were under absolute eggshells (hence why the school was dormatised in the first place; if that's even a word). If there was any incident, it was clear that the school wouldn't just be eaten out; but utterly grounded into oblivion. Tomura might not have had anything to do with it directly, but it's clear that a distrust has been instilled in general and that the usual shit isn't going to slide any more (also considering that the parent approval process wasn't exactly smooth sailing; it's shown that even those with the most invested in the hero industry are getting sketchy). Add to that, that Gentle himself was a former student which was clearly expelled on absolutely unfair grounds and you don't just have an attack on the school, but a huge controversy dragged up from the dead and in turn putting the conecpt of heroism in even more dispute (of the idea that many villains are just reject heroes; therefore creating a viscious cycle). Though High End put some faith back in the system; before that the public at large were clearly starting to ask too many questions.

Another thing I think you may have seemed to fail to see the importance of was La Brava; who is now not only in play, but on the loose. The parallels between her and Eri are clear, not to say she's EvilEri; but a short, emotionally vulnerable girl that had lost all hope until a man 11 years older than her inspired her to use the incredibly powerful quirk she has no control over to help somebody much weaker than the enemy almost singlehandedly win the day with a coloured glow against all odds...well you see my point. Following logic, it's safe to say one of the first people she's going to make a B-Line towards is Giran-and he's the direct link to the LoV (not saying she's joining asap; but they haven't had many new recruits recently and there isn't much of a reason to have her just up an leave the equation). Though she isn't much now, I don't see it as coincedance that the secondary villain got more development panels than the major villain. Taking into account that Ms Joke was shown at the Sports Festival and the time frame between Hosu nomu/Stain nomus being hinted at being kids and High End being shown in a nursery; and it is extremely evident that Hori might play a ridiculously long game, but he isn't forgetting plot points he introduced literal years beforehand.

Overall, though the arc might have been a very SoL'ey arc to flesh out/get the class back in the spotlight after Yakushit bar Bakugo, because Bakugo is already perfect and doesn't need character development and he already knows how to play the drums and is more betterer of a guitar teacher than the girl who's lived around music all her life and bakugo is so cool and HE ISNT GAY STOP DRAWING HIM SUCKING DICKS STEVEN IT ISNT FUNNY BAKUGO IS SUPER AWESOME COOL AND HE CAN EXPLODE YOU HEAD OFF AT ANY POINT AND FUCK YOU STEVEN it's quite clear that between

>Setting up Gentle/LaBrava

>Setting up Destro

<and to a much lesser extent, the possibility of Oji or Brave

>Setting up Gigantomachia further

>Setting up 1B for the current arc

that the arc was a very subtle exposition arc which has given Hori a multitude more approaches to carry on the narratives after what was a relatively dead-end story.


 No.896108

>>895880

>Gentle was boring and pointless.

Pointless, yes. I hoped it would lead to more stuff.

Boring, no.

Deku ruined everything, as usual.


 No.896116

>>896102

Hori didn't think of any of that and had the festival been canceled there would have been no serious ramifications (because serious ramifications are disallowed and so the festival couldn't be canceled)


 No.896223

Stop reading this garbage.


 No.896308

>>896223

>Look, mom, I did it again!

Is there something that you're obsessed about it?


 No.896322

>>896308

He's right about it being garbage, but doesn't seem to understand that we can't quit this far in.


 No.896331

>>896322

Well I'm happy that people read it. The character design is still amazing and it's got tons of cute girls.


 No.896347

I really feel like this arc would be much better if the chapters had the regular number of pages.


 No.896350

>>896102

>It wasn't that fact the loli wasn't going to smile as much as the entire school was going to be shut down.

The school wasn't going to be shut down just because of a trespasser. The security team even mentions that another reason why they would cancel the festival and go into lockdown, if needed, is that it would be seen as a sign of competence. If the school didn't get shut down over prior disasters, why would they get shut down over a magic hipster and his fangirl?

>Add to that, that Gentle himself was a former student which was clearly expelled on absolutely unfair grounds and you don't just have an attack on the school, but a huge controversy dragged up from the dead and in turn putting the conecpt of heroism in even more dispute (of the idea that many villains are just reject heroes; therefore creating a viscious cycle).

You're inserting a bit. No one cared who Gentle was, even after he was caught. He isn't a big guy. That is one of his major attributes. If your reason was valid, then that "huge controversy" would still occur after he surrendered. That would actually have made his character more interesting; that UA regained its reputation for being secure, but the media turns Gentle into a cautionary tale of what hero schools do to good people. That didn't happen because it was not a stake, and not a lead into a story setup.

>Another thing I think you may have seemed to fail to see the importance of was La Brava; who is now not only in play, but on the loose.

After the police comment on her being a hacker, there is no mention of her at all. She essentially disappears from the story.

> The parallels between her and Eri are clear, not to say she's EvilEri; but a short, emotionally vulnerable girl that had lost all hope until a man 11 years older than her inspired her to use the incredibly powerful quirk she has no control over to help somebody much weaker than the enemy almost singlehandedly win the day with a coloured glow against all odds...well you see my point.

Those are called superficial similarities. They both grant powerups, but that's about it. Although, La Brava's power up spell is a once per day.

>Following logic, it's safe to say one of the first people she's going to make a B-Line towards is Giran-and he's the direct link to the LoV (not saying she's joining asap; but they haven't had many new recruits recently and there isn't much of a reason to have her just up an leave the equation). Though she isn't much now, I don't see it as coincedance that the secondary villain got more development panels than the major villain. Taking into account that Ms Joke was shown at the Sports Festival and the time frame between Hosu nomu/Stain nomus being hinted at being kids and High End being shown in a nursery; and it is extremely evident that Hori might play a ridiculously long game, but he isn't forgetting plot points he introduced literal years beforehand.

You were inserting before but this is too much. That's also not how, "following logic," works. It's far more likely hori will forget about them both.

>Overall, though the arc might have been a very SoL'ey arc to flesh out/get the class back in the spotlight after Yakushit bar Bakugo, because Bakugo is already perfect and doesn't need character development and he already knows how to play the drums and is more betterer of a guitar teacher than the girl who's lived around music all her life and bakugo is so cool and HE ISNT GAY STOP DRAWING HIM SUCKING DICKS STEVEN IT ISNT FUNNY BAKUGO IS SUPER AWESOME COOL AND HE CAN EXPLODE YOU HEAD OFF AT ANY POINT AND FUCK YOU STEVEN

How come bakugo doesn't get a foil villain fight? "Because he is so perfect that no one can be his foil." - Hori

>that the arc was a very subtle exposition arc which has given Hori a multitude more approaches to carry on the narratives after what was a relatively dead-end story.

All of that remains to be seen. I don't see any setup in Gentle's story because there was no payoff. Hori continues to add more characters that could come back and be used, but it's more likely that he will just add more to fulfill a story beat before being abandoned and call that world building.

>>896322

>He's right about it being garbage, but doesn't seem to understand that we can't quit this far in.

BNHA discussion is so much more entertaining in the meta sense. I really didn't expect this when it started.


 No.896406

>mfw we're either getting 13 pages of flashbacks or Deku doing another MUH BRIGHTER FUTURE monologue

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?


 No.896407

>>895441

That sounds reasonable, thanks.


 No.896419

I still believe the Gentle arc would have been better if he and Deku unintentionally teamed up to stop some greater threat like the LoV. Or if Aoyama had come into play. Or literally anything more involved in the general plot.

The power he had, the way it was used, the fight with Deku. It was all great and kept me invested. BUT IT WAS ALL WASTED ON LITERALLY NOTHING HAPPENING.


 No.896420

File: f74c98a0491df02⋯.jpeg (72.71 KB, 768x768, 1:1, DEF76E19-4241-4E8E-BD74-1….jpeg)

I haven’t touched this shit since the backpack Loli powerup bullshit, is it worth going back to or is it still irredeemable trash?


 No.896423

>>896406

Has Hori got enough good boy points with Shonen Jump to take a break? He clearly needs it.

>>896419

I'm not one to bother looking into fanfiction, but I can't help but admit that basically everyone who's voiced suggestions on how something could have gone better or could have lead to something interesting have had decent ideas. This makes me wonder if Hori is really burnt out or is so autistically trying to subvert expectations that he won't allow himself to use logical story progression; i.e. not cliches, but ways you expect to see the story develop.


 No.896424

>>894791

I wished it went that route.


 No.896442

>>896420

Endevour and Hawks arc are the peak, some of the best stuff in BNHA.

Everything else has been trash.


 No.896451

>>896420

No, that fact that you even lasted that long shows you have shit taste.


 No.896495

File: c9b0a57dae0c0cf⋯.png (200.61 KB, 600x270, 20:9, Hey kid wanna be a villain.png)

It is actually so infuriating how much nothing happens with this shit.

All Might loses his powers and we don't get a proper follow up until Endevour and Hawks, and then some more nothing happens.

How hard would it be for the story to move forward at this point? How about a time skip? Maybe shift the focus to handman for a bit? Something that doesn't involve introducing more characters?


 No.896496

>>896495

ALSO WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT GIANT THING THAT THEY INTRODUCED AWHILE BACK?

Am I delusional or did that happen and not go anywhere?


 No.897044

>>896496

It happened, AND it went nowhere.


 No.897062

>>896495

I remain shocked by how you fags can't tell he's artificially stretching the story under editorial orders because WSJ knows they have nothing else to push sales after this and One Piece are finished


 No.897073

File: b9db457d73160e3⋯.png (122.85 KB, 612x563, 612:563, b9db457d73160e3b9e820717f3….png)

>>897044

>>896496

>>896495

Why would you read this garbage to begin with?


 No.897078

>>896495

It's pretty obvious that Hori's strategy is to drag out stuff until he can plot out a bigger event arc, and then blow his load all at once. We know AfO is up to something in prison, somehow, but we're not seeing any of that actually developed. So what's going to happen instead is that we're going to see some more boring shit for a few months when all of the sudden "OH WOW SOMETHING'S REALLY BIG AND CRAZY IS HAPPENING!! EVERYONE SCRAMBLE INTO A BIG CLUSTERFUCK ACTION SCENE AND HOLD YOUR POSITIONS UNTIL SOMETHING DRAMATIC HAPPENS!!"


 No.897080

>>897078

Pure delusion. Boku no Nothing Happens hasnt produced anything interesting is years. You believe there is some super secret plan to do something interesting then clearly we arent looking at the same shit.

>something interesting will happen

>any moments now

>do something


 No.897083

>>897080

How viable are crowdfunded weekly manga these days?


 No.897097

>>897080

I'm not saying it's going to be good, but there's definitely an attempt to create peaks and valleys of storytelling. So we get several months of this shitty training arc, and then something "big" happens, like another villain attack or the city explodes or something equally contrived. It's played like it's supposed to be a big deal, but there's really no stakes, no one really dies, and the most we get out of it is Deku getting one more spotlight moment and maybe a few panels of explanation about one of those many dangling plot threads. Then we go back to seeing the story drag ass for 6 more months.


 No.897210

>>897097

>but there's definitely an attempt to create peaks and valleys of storytelling

Hahah yeah right. There this is so generic and uncreative that you would think Hori is trying to be shit.


 No.897439

File: 28066360101b9e6⋯.png (545.29 KB, 727x635, 727:635, ohno.PNG)

>>897097

>It's played like it's supposed to be a big deal, but there's really no stakes, no one really dies

I would respect Hori a lot more if he killed off some characters. I personally like Grape Kid, but killing the comedic relief would at least signal to the audience that we're about to hit a tonal shift.

Honestly, the Graper should have ditched UA a long time ago and become a paparazzi that takes creep-shots by using his quirk.


 No.897481

File: 1233c44fef4f59e⋯.jpg (56.54 KB, 526x573, 526:573, 1469458035093.jpg)

>>897439

>respect

>hori


 No.898660

Spoilers leaked

转混成213 黑色的是光頭前輩的個性「黑鞭」,他說久今後還會發現6個個性。第五回合繼續

>The Black thing is the bald past holder’s quirk “Black Whip”, he told Deku he’ll find 6 other quirks later on

>5th Match continues

We literally waited an entire month for exposition that doesn't affect Deku in the current moment. Now watch as they all lose in humiliating fashion throughout the rest of spring.


 No.898739

>>898660

>cuckchan image

>we

You have to go back.


 No.898753

>>898747

Isn't it recieving the Bleach treatment as of this moment?

The popularity rankings should drop somewhat if this shit keeps going.


 No.898754

>>898753

God I hope so.


 No.898757

File: 4e253e050d06069⋯.jpg (14.99 KB, 236x254, 118:127, 4e253e050d060691c63e102207….jpg)

>>898747

Just because the arc is slower and more thought out than usual doesn't mean its dead or dying. Its just the Skypiea arc of Heroaca.


 No.898759

>>898757

Was Skypiea that bad when it ran?


 No.898764

>>898759

It was very slow because "nothing happened" in the beginning of the arc and was slandered by people. Then later on it was praised when people could marathon it without waiting for each chapter.


 No.898767

File: 093056deaec327b⋯.png (389.71 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 093056deaec327bd3e63c1c405….png)

>Hori literally cannot improve Deku's powers without it being some basic martial arts move (HE CAN KICK)

>Better vaguely hint about 6 new quirks that he'll no doubt learn one painstakingly long arc at a time

How the fuck do you write so much and yet say so little?


 No.898771

>>898764

I can second this. Reading Skypiea as it came out was boring as shit, but when I reread OP it was a pretty fun arc.


 No.898811

File: 8d1e89c1c8f6382⋯.png (42.47 KB, 169x181, 169:181, meh.png)

>>898771

I understand that stuff like Skypiea, Kaiji, and HxH, all were probably agonizingly slow at release, but this feels worse, even if there's a case to be made that it's somehow not. It's like a worse version of the Overhaul arc, in my opinion. Let me explain.

The Overhaul arc, I can point to a ton of examples of it being what I'd consider pretty "objectively" good writing. The stakes and tension escalate dramatically, there's tons of small little parallels between Mirio and Deku that are clear metaphors for "the old way" and "the new way." There's reciprocity between Mirio and Overahul himself, with how both are towards the people they overshadow (Deku and Shigaraki.) There's even some foreshadowing with Giagantomachia, by having him both appear via Gran Torino's explanation to All Might, and Kirishima's backstory. Not to mention Kirishima's character getting furthered, and real ass consequences happen to characters when this is all over, on both sides. Chisaki loses his life's research and empire, to Shigaraki, Mirio loses his quirk (see the parallels?) to Chisaki. Eri is now under the care of UA, Sir is dead, etc, you get the idea.

But you know what? I think back on all that, I even reread it recently to get an idea of it the arc, when explaining it to someone, and I just for the life of me can not say I like it at all. And this is coming from someone who was an avid reader, and staunch defender of even Bakugou in the earlier parts, but the Overhaul arc just fucking bores me outside of Red Riot Unbreakable.

If I had to theorize why, I'd guess that Hori has this horrendous job of thinking he can just have flashbacks literally right before a character does something big, and that somehow makes us care or think Hori himself has earned the narrative weight of the emotions he's trying to illicit. ie

>the poor buildup leads to dispelling your suspension of disbelief, and just leaves you feeling manipulated

Contrast Skypiea. The entire arc builds up to this fucking bell. First it starts off with dreams, Luffy believing that the island is real, and finding out about the defamation of someone's ancestor when he claimed the island was in the sky. They then go to the sky, find that island, see the bell, we know the context of that bell and what it means. We find out Enel is essentially the reason it's not able to ring right now. And from then on Luffy is pushing towards ringing that god damned bell. And the reason the arc is so well remembered/liked now is only half because we're able to read it all at once now. The other half is that it establishes a goal very early on

>prove the island is real

And the climax pays that off with

>ring the bell and yell out "IT'S UP HERE IN THE SKY"

And honestly for every single arc in Hero Academia, I always have to pause and think about shit to remember if Hori's even done stuff like that. All Might and All for One count, I guess, but outside of those two I'm really not sure if I can think of an example of paying off a setup. I guess that's the TL;DR of this rambling.

>TL;DR: "Hori can't payoff a setup, for shit."


 No.898838

>>898660

>he'll end up having 7 quirks

>when the main antagonist can steal quirks

Surely Hori thought this one out thoroughly


 No.898912

>>898767

>All might didn't have previous power

<Deku gets 6 free asspulls ready to go

I don't get it.


 No.898932

>>898912

Gotta even the stakes to ward off those filthy Bakugo haters.


 No.898942

>>898767

Deku hasn’t even learned how to fully use his strength yet. He’s learned 3 techniques over the course of the series:

Kicking

Flicking his finger

Jumping using his strength

Hori can’t think of any more ways to use super strength so Deku’s getting whip powers.


 No.899019

>>898942

Or he could just pull an X men. Before it got pozzed to fuck some marvel writers took the characters and changed them in interesting ways. Like there was a character called 'iceman' who could generate ice out of thin air. Something that isn't possible so they have someone outright say "your power isn't making ice, your power is the removal of energy from molecules and you have been supercooling liquid in the atmosphere to make ice" which ironically was the tip of the iceburg.

Later nu marvel just turned him into a gay icehulk that literally screams "yass queen" but the concept of taking a childish idea of a superpower and going "okay heres what that means" is pretty neat and could work here.

Like the most recognisable version is Magneto. People think of magneto as the guy that lifts shit made of metal but blood is red because of its iron content which allowed him to face the godlike pheonix by simply giving her mortal host body a stroke by clotting the blood in her brain.

Basically take any superheros power and ask yourself what Araki would do with it in a stand battle. One For All seems to be a kinect energy amplifier that retarded punchmen used for low tier superman powers. But to use another x men comparison theres a guy called sebastian shaw who basically has OFA but also uses it to dissapate kinectic energy. So someone can throw a grenade at him, he grasps it in both hands and lets the kinect power of the explosive reaction ripple through him and then he discharges it safetly. Theres no reason deku couldn't do that and honestly would make him the exact counter to bakugo.


 No.899032

>>899019

> Theres no reason deku couldn't do that

Yes there is. "Hori."


 No.899056

File: a462bf93d167e7c⋯.webm (717.19 KB, 640x358, 320:179, Oedipus performs a stunni….webm)

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT, HORI. JUST FUCKING READ ONE PIECE. EVEN IF YOUR'E NOT A FAN OF THE MATERIAL, ODA HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATING HOW TO PAYOFF SETUPS FOR LITERAL DECADES.


 No.899059

>>899056

But one piece is even more baby tier writing than fairy tail.


 No.899074

>>899059

A baby manga that does payoffs decently is still better than some "mature" shitfest with zero direction


 No.899077

>>899074

The panels in one piece are densely packed too so more stuff is going on unlike with these last few chapters in My Hero which were painful to get through


 No.899079

File: 5a7112eac32099e⋯.jpg (46.2 KB, 422x640, 211:320, Beet.jpg)

>>892468

we are now Beet The Vandel Buster

Nice.


 No.899081

>>898767

Its bizarre. Deku kicking aka Shoot Style is somehow supposed to eliminate self-injury when the threat for it is not really there, while ignoring another threat. What is Recovery Girl gonna do, not heal him, and let him be permanently disabled? Also the idea that he will somehow lose function the next time he fucks up his arms, and after they're fixed makes no sense. What makes the next time he obliterates his arms different from the first time?

The threat ignored is that the reader is supposed to accept that his leg armor somehow prevents his legs from taking damage in a way that his fists and arms would. The obvious thing to point out is, why can't he just wear armored fists? This is used in the non-canon filler Two Heroes.

>>898912

Already seeing fanboys defend this by saying that All Might is a dumbass citing Gran Torino training. But the problem with that goes back to the previous OFA holder not being one, and how All Might explained how previous OFA users cultivate power and leading the successor to be stronger. How does whip strength lead to exaggerated super strength? What if All Might's predecessor actually did have access to vestiges-quirks, did she forget to tell All Might about how to access them?


 No.899082

>>898912

This is one of the things that bothers me. The fact that I always assumed or felt that this is how OFA should have worked in the first place s the only thing keeping me from actually being annoyed by all of this.


 No.899086

>>899081

>>899082

> How does whip strength lead to exaggerated super strength? What if All Might's predecessor actually did have access to vestiges-quirks, did she forget to tell All Might about how to access them?

It doesn't.

A while ago I actually explained how OfA made sense, based on what we had at the time, and prior to this bullshit it actually worked. You know that one guy in JJBA, who could get a bullet to fire by just locking it in place and tapping it? It's sorta like that. OfA's function was essentially to pass on the literal physical strength of the previous holder, to the next person. If you were to jump, you'd only be able to jump as high as one person's force output can. But if you had the strength of two people, you'd jump higher. So on and so forth.

An easier analogy might be like lifting the side of a car up. One person can't do that, at least not easily. But if you got literally eight people to, they could do so. Stick all eight people's worth of strength into one kid, and it makes sense that if he slams his fist into a big piece of metal, it'll damn near liquefy his arm from the recoil.

But this just throws everything out the window. So what, the stockpiling quirk affected the other quirks, too, but the other quirks also somehow aided in the stockpiling of strength? And because Deku's got the strength of eight people in him, his whips are super jacked up now? How the fuck does that work, they weren't even obeying him, and I sure as fuck can't see how they'd be affected by his muscles. Next you're going to tell me Ochako could float a god damned skyscraper if she got swole enough. Or am I retarded and like his limbs were flinging the whips around? But that doesn't make sense because he was still in control of his body, just not the quirk. So then why was his quirk so fucking stupidly powerful?

And then there's the bigger problem. There's no "equalizing factor" in regards to the powers. Not only do they have zero explanation of where they came from, but unlike Stands, Devil Fruits, hell even Nen kind of does with the way it's like Ki that requires stupidly specific rules to be stronger, there's no universal way to shut down a user of their quirks.

Which begs the question of how they're even restraining All for One in the first place. I can understand how you can restrain even the baddest motherfucker in One Piece: "Just throw 'em in the ocean/any body of liquid." And stands all you have to do is kill the user. But how the fuck have they managed to keep AfO restrained? Don't tell me that this is the plot point, too, and that they actually aren't, and that's how he's going to break out.


 No.899091

>>899086

I actually like your explanation. I'd contend that if you are sticking the potential strength of people into one person, then that person should also have the resilience too. But it doesn't matter.

I'm chalking this up to Hori trying to subvert expectations so hard he is just adding more to the story instead of building off of what's already there and fixing previous things.


 No.899122

File: 28f2d2fef14b4d7⋯.gif (1.13 MB, 320x213, 320:213, 28f2d2fef14b4d76e17ea235d1….gif)

>Deku Psycho 100

>Next issue, deku goes unsconscious and OfA takes over his body and sends the whole school flying. Deku cries about not being able to control his strength, unleashing the sadness sorrow outburst, from one OfA predecessor.

can this get less subtle?


 No.899124

File: c3d7b5d7ab87f21⋯.jpg (52.38 KB, 426x306, 71:51, c3d7b5d7ab87f212105ec47144….jpg)

>hori pulls the biggest garbage yet

>retards are defending it

I can;t even anymore honestly.


 No.899129

File: fb355ed2f233f5e⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 300.87 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, 19.jpeg)

>>892568

There's not much appeal left in the main series for me at this point.

I was hoping he wasn't getting written out completely. They've really laid down the path for him to get involved for some time now.


 No.899138

File: ffb594c14570d33⋯.jpg (307.27 KB, 1066x1600, 533:800, p.jpg)

>>899133

>>899086

I'm gonna drop my retard act for a second because you faggots genuinely triggered my autism.


 No.899188

>>899091

Potentially. At this point Hori has clearly overworked himself and put himself in a position where he's sabotaging shit from sheer mental exhaustion. I think the reaction lately too has been so visceral, with more and more of the fans turning on it (myself included) because it used to be "not this bad." I still watch the United States of Smash clip, occasionally, to this day, for example.

But with this, be it out of schadenfreude, or distress, everyone is asking him

>What were you thinking?!

I know I am.


 No.899240

>>899188

Where are you going where people actually criticize Hori's decisions? Aside from here, I only ever see normalfags patting authors on the back no matter how badly they fuck something up.


 No.899343

In the context of shonen, this is a perfectly good development.

Hori had the option of dragging out fractions of percentages for years but instead he's making Deku progress.

And since we pretty much can say BNHA isn't going to end before 500 chapters now, it means more plot and less menial stuff. BNHA embracing its capeshit nature is the least of my worries.


 No.899353

>>896495

>thinking the story didn't end with United States of Smash

It would have been the perfect time to end and do a 10 year time jump like Dragon Ball to DBZ, but me and my friends just stopped watching after that because we all agreed that couldn't be topped and felt like the proper end to the series.


 No.899358

>>899353

Isn't the point of the series the high school that teachs kids how to be heros? The protagonist is learning how to be a true hero with the protagonist's villain doing the opposite, Learning how to be a villain. You cant just skip that


 No.899390

>>899353

>do a 10 year time jump

Then why is it called Boku no Hero Academia in the first place?


 No.899470

File: b7f95d5cdb9d9cc⋯.jpg (21.24 KB, 720x405, 16:9, damn_hound.jpg)

>>899086

>And because Deku's got the strength of eight people in him, his whips are super jacked up now?

In-lore this actually makes complete sense. Throughout the entire narrative we are told that quirks are essenially muscles; and training makes them stronger. Bakugo could only start with firecrackers, Kirishima his arm etc. Only in the most recent time have quirks become so broken that they are almost good to go for hero work (Pres Mic comments on this when talking about the toddlers) So yes, with enough training and probably a bt of Trigger added on top as quirk steroids, Ochaco would be able to float a skyscraper

So your analogy for the car still makes sense. 8 people can lift a car, so the combined power from OfA means you could lift a car. Previously only one guy was cracking a whip. Now it's got the combined force and skill of 8 master whip crackers cracking a whip at once.

I thnk an easy-to-understand term would to be to put it into RPG terms. The car example is OfA boosting Deku's base strength stat. But OfA doesn't just do that; it passes down both types of power from other users, ie both stats. So Deku's magic/quirk stat has also been jacked up in the background. Now you've given Deku his first spell (quirk), that magic stat is going to fucking destroy shit from out of nowhere, despite it looking like he never had it before, and the guy who previously mastered it and gave him that spell only had an eighth of the Magic Power/Quirk Power stat.

As for why AM didn't have them; to be fair this is literally the first chapter this has been developed on, patience is a virtue. I'm sure we'll get further elaboration later due to everybody sperging out about OfA over the last week or so-but to put up some proverbial scaffolding up now, I'd imagine it soething to do with the 'core' swelling, Deku being told 'It's time' but AM told 'It's not time yet' and AfO giving a smug grin in Prison as he feels shit is moving along.

>>899353

>Yeah, I dropped Star Wars when Obi Wan died. It would have been a perfect time to end it, having Obi stop Darth Vader and save Luke.

<What do you mean there are two more movies with more and better payoff?

Newsflash retard, this is Dekus' story on becoming a Hero; not All Mights' story on the end of his career. In the basic heroes journey, USoS was his mentor figuratively dying.


 No.899484

File: 3827af8f7d7e5b6⋯.png (102.87 KB, 684x461, 684:461, Bf3uhlr.png)

>>899470

>I thnk an easy-to-understand term would to be to put it into RPG terms


 No.899529

>>899470

>He thinks Hero Academia has gotten better since USoS

oof

>>899353

Call it Boko no Hero College Academia then.

>>899358

As far as I'm concerned that's already played out, theres only so much you can constantly spend looking at the kids doing shit in a class / training format before it starts to get like Naruto.


 No.899531

File: d7f049fae7e7b45⋯.gif (1.99 MB, 350x189, 50:27, d7f049fae7e7b45a1ef801ee11….gif)

>>899470

>there has been better payoff since almight became a permaskelly

haha...like what? Half the people in this thread have been screaming for the story to move along, the pacing has never been more wire thin and dull.


 No.899786

>>899343

>In the context of shonen, this is a perfectly good development.

It would honestly be nicer if Deku discovered the multiple quirk aspect of his power on his own and then finally have it laid out later more for the stupider fans than for himself. One thing that was interesting about Deku was how he would analyze and think over not only tactics but how powers work. The latter being an extremely potent weapon in a world filled with super-powered people who seem to think little of other abilities beyond their own. This development should have been done in a more gradual manner or at least been rolled out over the course of the series with this chapter being more of a confirmation than anything else. Deku quirking his bed is something of an example of how this should have been laid out from the start or at least something brought on earlier (maybe after his first major fight). The multiple quirk thing doesn't bother me as much as how Hori laid it out.


 No.899810

>>899786

I don't mind it being so sudden. It cuts a lot of bullshit early on, because let's be real there would have been shitposting and outcry no matter when Hori revealed it.

I can't wait to see Black Whip in play.


 No.899818

>>899529

>>He thinks Hero Academia has gotten better since USoS

>>899531

Endevours arc was absolutely great.


 No.901103

File: 4ead0447d90c196⋯.png (46.35 KB, 234x184, 117:92, 1539882448919.png)

>Deku gets seven (7) quirks

>inb4 everyone's Quirks get powered up by some bullshit event to compensate

[powercreep intensifies]


 No.901106

>>899138

Oh look, it's this post again.

>hurr look gaiz Deku had a moment of despondency that stopped the moment All Might revealed he grew up quirkless

>this is exactly the same as Deku grovelling to Mirio for the length of a chapter

Don't forget that the Gentle encounter was a byproduct of that cuckoldry, hence Mirio's inclusion in the montage of people Deku needed to make a le brighter future for.

Also,

>preview said this fight would be over this week

>it's not

Hori is a hack AND a liar.


 No.901110

File: 29f0ff63e4210c4⋯.jpg (314 KB, 1388x1502, 694:751, 5bb8c977f1a85bf1e177def9ee….jpg)

>>901106

Nice template response. Too bad I posted that for a much different reason that you would know if you actually cared and werent here just to complaint

This, Hori sucks dick and how bad and illogical his writing is. Pure garbage and anybody reading this should consider off himself.


 No.901165

File: 249a1def2ca2452⋯.jpg (138.8 KB, 690x1280, 69:128, 1548373995111.jpg)

Man for a while there I was honestly a bit let down Bleach finally ended. But it's alright since the same quality content is still available on the same weekly magazine


 No.901243

>>901103

This entire battle arc was a chance to poorly show off their powerups in the form of flashbacks. Was anyone else not expecting them to use an entire arc on this bullshit?


 No.901256

>>901103

>Everyone else gets powered up

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

That's cute, you still have hope.

Nah, we're going full naruto now. Expect Izuku to be able to destroy moons with OFA by the end of the series while anyone not Deku, Bakugo, and maybe Shoto is pushed to the wayside.


 No.901261

Cuck-chan image posting mentality is a sickness.


 No.901310

>>901243

I thought the fights would last 1-2 chapters each, but it was dragged out quite a bit.

At least there's a payoff.

>>901256

There's nothing wrong with Deku getting ahead. Everyone keeping up with him would be incredibly more bullshit than the opposite.


 No.901314

Boobs!


 No.901355

This is such bullshit, but I can't look away. It's like Hori is getting literally every possible thing wrong.


 No.901471

File: f24fb387d4e68bc⋯.jpeg (93.81 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, scared_squid.jpeg)

>>901165

I hope the caveman science adventure manga stays safe.

>>901310

*Bakugo


 No.901601

File: 7eb320d9484e29e⋯.jpg (42.4 KB, 430x600, 43:60, DvyJ59bUcAAW8XH.jpg)

>>901261

Cry about it.


 No.901605

File: 32324f1e3247472⋯.gif (790.82 KB, 245x200, 49:40, 1547753959866.gif)

>>901106

>Prelude to the Summer of '92.gif

>>901314

>Boobs!

The high point of the chapter. That and the possibility that Mimic boy was actually copying OfA. In any case, I wonder if Deku will use the black whip shit like spider-man but only with black webbing. Hori likes his American comic heroes so he may have some fun with this. Then again what about Sero.


 No.901609

File: 0644ec100a6849e⋯.gif (2.53 MB, 540x300, 9:5, 58ae13427d81aba5be26b5110f….gif)

Just to play devils advocate for a moment, there is nothing wrong with Deku being able to use the abilities of the past OFA users. OFA is the brother ability of AFO and was derived from the same bloodline, given that quirks are genetic traits it stands to reason that two quirks from the same line would manifest similarly; the best example of this is Ida and his brother.

The problem now is that each quirk will be used as a “get out of jail free” card rather than a new facet to the double-edged nature of OFA. Quirks are at their most interesting when they have strict drawbacks to their use that put the user at a disadvantage as much as they give them an advantage, that's what separated them from typical western superhero powers. If Deku has a power that can solve any problem that makes him boring and any potential threat superficial unless there are immediate drawbacks to using them.

One of the biggest reasons the series has gotten worse is because it's stripped more and more restrictions off of the use of quirks rather than forced characters to work around the drawbacks. There is no reason Ashido should be able to produce large amounts of acid given the finite nature of her bodily fluids, Bakugo should suffer biochemical drawbacks due to the byproduct of nitroglycerin (nitro-oxide), Cero should have limits on the amount of tape he can produce in a given time frame, and so on.


 No.901623

File: fbf34a259eac0cf⋯.jpg (90.89 KB, 607x738, 607:738, fbf34a259eac0cf9762e1c27a0….jpg)

>muh strong independent female character


 No.901658

>>901623

>all of that armorshaming

Literally can't even. Don't they know it's current year?

Actually on a serious note, it boggles the mind that's a complaint when Momo can retrieve large objects faster with more skin exposed. Hori did something objectively right by making her revealing combat outfits serve a function. Complaints like this really show they can't stand revealing armor even if it's intelligently designed.


 No.901674

>>901658

The "problem" may also be Hori giving her a quirk that needs exposed skin in the first place


 No.901804

File: 4c4dcdf4bd698d4⋯.jpg (126.3 KB, 800x569, 800:569, PicsArt_01-20-11.20.46(1).jpg)

Update


 No.901812

>>901623

For some reason, shitty ironic weebs have been ass-ravaged over Momo's costume design for months now.


 No.901814

File: 7745d91266fb6cf⋯.jpeg (321.46 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, A5B338E7-E932-4881-9EB4-F….jpeg)

>>901623

But she needs the armor to be open to use her power. That’s why her real costume is like that too


 No.901873

>>901609

Exactly. Pretty obvious solution towards 'powering up' Deku would be to have him learn anatomy and grappling. He could then use OfA in less self-destructive ways while not simply trumping all enemies. Precise hits to body's weak points, locking enemies in holds, and choking them out if necessary would be far less crippling in most cases than simply punching and kicking very hard all the time. It could also add more tension to some fights, in that Deku has to react quickly enough, aim well, and apply correct hold, instead of simply 'Will Deku be able to use enough strength?'

Making Deku use Air-Gun move more often and in more creative ways would go a long way as well.

OfA could also be taken into crazier territories, by strengthening less obvious parts of the human body. Deku could do crap like strengthening his chest and diaphragm muscles to blow air with great force, strengthening his vocal cords to produce deafening screams, spit marbles with great force essentially turning his mouth into a gun, and so on. Bringing quirks of past OfA holders is just a lazy way out. What's worse, it justifies mid fight power-ups. If Hiro is not careful, this will end up just like Bleach or DB.


 No.901877

>>901873

It's weird that we just went through the whole Gentle arc to show off Deku's new air bullet gloves, only to give him a wholly new power and the promise of 6 more powers with little chance that any of them will build off Deku's previously established skills. He could be learning martial arts or learning how to turn OfA into a new type of fighting style that utilizes his ability to individually strengthen single parts of his body way beyond their limit. Shoot Style was all about showing that Deku needed to learn how to fight in a way that suited his own mentality and abilities. They even went a step further and had him learn some dancing, which was a nice touch to turn it into something other than "kick really hard".


 No.901963

>>901877

>>901873

It's a bizarre turn. I really don't understand why this is happening. As you said, Deku utilising OFA in unique ways would be way more interesting and fit his character. He's been learning to copy movements and skills the whole time and since the Yakuza arc kicked off he's just been strengthing his way through everything.

Using OFA to mimic quirks would be way cooler too. Have Deku really tap into the quirk and unleash its true potential that goes beyond being a massive stat multiplier.


 No.902023

>>901963

>I really don't understand why this is happening.

Hori probably requested a hiatus long ago for the purpose of sorting shit out but it was denied and now he's about to drop dead both mentally and physically.


 No.902024

>>902023

It's ironic then, that what essentially is amounting to fan fiction (various Anons ideas on different ways to handle this) have turned out to be leagues better than what Hori's churned out. I'd totally buy that Hori's been denied breaks, and if that was the case, on some level this trainwreck is satisfying to see bite those suits in the ass.


 No.902025

>>902024

The only way you'd be right with this is if he just put the vestiges out there sooner than anticipated. It was always going to happen. Personally I thought it would be in the final arc of the manga, but in retrospect I prefer it this way.

More cool shit to draw and the plot moves forward.

And now he has an excuse to reveal OfA to more characters. For a long running manga it's clearly the better choice.


 No.902029

>>902025

Look, I get it. I get he foreshadowed it, and I get that there's even logic behind this. Hell, I could make a case that because there's such an emphasis on Deku bringing people together, motivating them, and how he's on his way to/already is in a lot of ways, a symbol of those around him. I still hate it.

I don't know how to explain this, but it's a lot like the overhaul arc, in that I could make a very strong case for it being well written, but I still fucking hate this and think it shouldn't have been this way. Just fucking say early on that only the original quirk, and the one AfO gave the brother, were able to be passed on. Afterall the origin of quirks was deliberately glossed over, you could very easily get away with that, for the sake of an engaging story.

And I get that this is boiling down to a purely emotional argument, but I still fucking hate this. And that's not even getting into the agonizingly slow pace the story is moving at, and other issues I have with it.


 No.902056

>>902025

It's shit. Period.

Deku was already OP. Now he's even more OP. Not only does he have super strength, speed and duarabiltiy of several heroes, he now gets 6 extra quirks on top of that?

No one can come even close to dreaming of competing.


 No.902070

>>902029

>>902056

Every time the response to it is "Deku is too OP". Deku was already going to be the most powerful hero by a very large margin with the quirk All Might used. Imagine what realistically would have happened if he didn't have his quirk outburst making him doubt using his powers, absolute stomp worse than match 4.

Now there's variety, and the other characters will play a role in that in their own way, as they always have.

I think a lot of people were under the illusion that everyone would be on the same playing field, but not only is there virtually no precedent for that in shonen, but the premise of the manga contradicts it.

I guess it's a tough pill to swallow, but a far cry from saying the manga is shit now. This is people wanting more All Might all over again, now people are going to say "7 quirks was when BNHA became bad" same as Kamino.

But yeah I get that not everyone likes it, with a cast as varied of this there's going to be a lot of disappointment no matter what you do.


 No.902097

>>902070

>Every time the response to it is "Deku is too OP". Deku was already going to be the most powerful hero by a very large margin with the quirk All Might used.

So what? Make it eve more overpowered?

A kid with no quirks ends up becoming the strongest being on the planet. Any moral of "hard work" is BS and any and all value of secondary characters is gone, as NO ONE can come even remotely close. They are going to become more irrelevant than Yamcha.


 No.902101

>>902097

Gives me flashes of Naruto who was a fucking idiot who couldn't learn anything. Then he learned a fucking forbidden technique in an afternoon. Then it turned out he had demon fox chakra. Then it turned out he was actually some kind of strategic genius sometimes. Then it turned out he could master techniques even faster because of bullshit shadow clone exploits. Then it turned out he was actually the child of TWO different super special legendary ninja bloodlines. And he could make friends with and control the 9-tailed fox. AND he could also use Sage mode.. AND he was the reincarnation of Ninja Jesus!

The point was supposed to be that he wasn't special, but that his hard work, intellect, and perseverance allowed him to achieve what those who were lucky to be born with special gifts couldn't. Admittedly, Deku was never shown to be a retard whose own retardation held him back, but he was never shown to have any aptitude for combat or physical activity either. They pretty much glossed over that fact entirely. He went from shaky nerd with an obsession for heroes to a natural fightan wunderkin because he did some strength training and now he's being given all the quirks.


 No.902103

>>902056

>>902097

Deku was always going to be not just OP, but extremely OP. Even when he had no control over his power and almost killed himself using it he was still stronger than everyone else.

The problem here is not that the OP protag became more OP, the problem is that the way he became more OP is extremely boring, but I'm not even sure if it's more or less boring than if he slowly unlocked more super strength and learned ways to use it, which is what I was originally expecting. Either way, the manga is boring as shit now, but it's salvageable if the fights and quirk uses are interesting, but I'm not holding my breath.

>Any moral of "hard work" is BS and any and all value of secondary characters is gone

You can dislike the current developments as much as you want, I know I don't like it either, but this statement is dumb as fuck, you're mad and saying stupid shit because of it. First, having to unlock more quirks doesn't undo the hard work he did all the way until now, and nothing says he won't have to keep working hard from now on, or even harder since he'll have multiple quirks to take care of, I know Hori has been dropping the ball a lot but he would have to be extremely retarded to drop the hard work thing that is the whole basis of the character, and second, Hori has no precedent of making side characters useless, it's quite the opposite, he spends too much fucking time focusing on them, why do you think this is going to change now that Deku has more powers? He clearly enjoys setting up fights between a different variety of quirks, like in the Overhaul arc and the current training arc.

>>902101

I don't think MHA is comparable to Naruto fuckery yet, as far as we know Deku isn't anything special, he got OFA and is working on it but I've always said, from the beginning, that I smelled some Naruto smell on MHA, and it was only a matter of time for it to go bad, like most shonen jump series. But to be fair, it's hard for anything to compare with how stupid Naruto turned out. Even Bleach with Ichigo being half human, half hollow, half shinigami and half quincy wasn't as stupid.


 No.902107

>>902097

I don't know where the fuck people get this idea that BNHA is about hard work. It never was and never will be.

As far as DBZ references go, I see them becoming more like Tien, or Krillin. Not as strong but still useful. And besides this isn't some Ki bullshit where your powerlevel basically determines if you can put a scratch on someone. Acid is still acid, fire is still fire, shit can still hurt even if your opponent has an insanely strong quirk.


 No.902183

>>902107

>I don't know where the fuck people get this idea that BNHA is about hard work

I guess Deku's training montage at the start of the series and his constant tutelage and need for guidance and advice on how to best train and utilize his powers are just weird flukes in the storytelling, huh?


 No.902199

>>902097

Really, the only way this could be saved if it turns out that AFO takes control over OFA and wipes the slate clean.

Of course, that won't happen, and even if it did then it'd be Bakugou who saves the day.


 No.902205

>>902199

Bakugou really should've been the epitome of over reliance on a quirk.


 No.902209

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>>902101

Wasn't the main character of bleach part deathpolice, deathskullghostnigger, and deathsovereigncitizenarcher?


 No.902464

>>902103

Deku being OP was alwas the reason I never cared for him. And making him even more OP makes me care even less.

As OP as Deku would have been, atleast he only had one (1x7 to be precise) quirk and had weakneses. But with 6 new quirks added on top, the weaknese become less an less.

Not to mention that all the other characters who struggle with only one simple quirk are far more interesting.

Bakugo, who was said to have a great quirk is still just one among many, with other students having quirks that match or surpass him, so he (and other students) have to push themselves in this fierce competeition.

But not Deku. The other students are were Deku was - compared to him they might as well be quirkless.

Having the greatest power ever handed to you and then getting more pwoer on top of that does render the hard work completely poinltess. Mastering your quirk is something that comes natually over time as you use it, so it's not mroe hard work than anyone else. Deku has Luck, and that's it.


 No.902467

>>902103

>I know Hori has been dropping the ball a lot but he would have to be extremely retarded to drop the hard work thing that is the whole basis of the character, and second, Hori has no precedent of making side characters useless, it's quite the opposite, he spends too much fucking time focusing on them, why do you think this is going to change now that Deku has more powers?

It doesn't matter how much he writes about other characters when they can do nothing relevant for the plot.

What can Yamcha add to the big conflict in DBZ? Nothing. And due to sheer difference in power, neither will 99% of class 1A when compared to Deku.

It's like putting Superman in the same team as Rorscharch and Smiley Man. They can only slow him down.


 No.902480

>>902467

It's funny that you bring up capeshit when Watchmen has a rly super smart guy, a psycho killer and a guy in an owl costume all be relevant while coexisting with Dr. Manhattan.

They all fill different roles, and they don't need to have the same strength.


 No.902492

> Hori is a superhero fanboy

> Picks up the latest nu-spiderman game

> A few weeks later he draws deku with spiderman powers

It's amazing isn't it? This level of forethought and story structure was planned way in advance.


 No.902511

>>902492

On second thought, maybe it's better he had his hiatus denied.


 No.902512

>>902464

>Not to mention that all the other characters who struggle with only one simple quirk are far more interesting.

I agree, Midoriya's arc only gets more boring as the story progresses.

>But not Deku. The other students are were Deku was - compared to him they might as well be quirkless.

This I disagree with. MHA is STILL not a pure power level shounen. I think it's heading that way but utility and support type powers still have space in it.

>Mastering your quirk is something that comes natually over time as you use it, so it's not mroe hard work than anyone else.

This is false. We've been show that just using a quirk won't naturally make someone good at using their quirk. Making your quirk usable and eventually useful through training directed specifically for that is something we were shown with Midoriya, Mirio, and Gentle.

>>902467

>It doesn't matter how much he writes about other characters when they can do nothing relevant for the plot.

This shit is getting repetitive but: MHA is STILL not a pure power level shounen. I think it's heading that way but utility and support type powers still have space in it.

When Bakugo turns into Kuwabara and Iida into Yamcha then I'll agree with you, and I don't trust Hori at all so I'll probably be agreeing with you some time soon.

>It's like putting Superman in the same team as Rorscharch and Smiley Man.

This is the worst example you could have possibly given, you're using an example that contradicts your own point, like >>902480 said. Are you sabotaging yourself on purpose? Are you trying to fuck with me?

>>902492

Didn't even realize that, sasuga Hori...

Do you think there are other things like this in the series that are less noticeable? Like, did he draw that inter racial couple around the time black panther came out?


 No.902611

I don't want to be the devil's advocate, but we knew deeply inside our souls Deku was going to get other quirks from the previous OfA users.

I don't really see the issue. Didn't read the manga, but I'm not sure if the rest of users had a quirk or not.


 No.902613

>>902611

And I actually read the part where they mention all new 6 quirks.

Well, it was expected and I'm somewhat ok.


 No.902680

>>902103

People are saying the hard work is invalidated because Naruto is still a memory fresh in most people's minds. The series that went from, "Hard work trumps talent when talent doesn't work hard!" and had stuff like Rock Lee vs. Gaara that showed off that moral, to "It turns out that Naruto didn't really need to work hard to get strong because he had Fox Chakra/Ninja Jesus Genes/Nepotism all along, and for areas where those fail, there's always Talk no Jutsu!"


 No.902762

>>902492

>AfO is basically Thanos but with quirks instead of magic stones

This will only get dumber and dumber when Avengers 4 comes out


 No.902763

>>902101

>>902680

Naruto was also a massive commercial success worldwide, so what reason does Hori have to not ape it? Don't say something ridiculous like "having ethics" or "being a good writer" because no one publishing on WSJ cares about that nonsense, specially given the level of editorial meddling this magazine is known for.


 No.902876

New Vigilantes also dropped, and continues to be miles ahead of BnH.


 No.902882

>>902876

Is it still slice of life/idol shit?


 No.902887

>It's another MC gets 500 powers and puts everyone else in the dirt series

It was fun while it lasted.


 No.902942

>>902876

>>902882

Captain Celebrity is going to fucking die.


 No.902945

>>902882

I don't get this criticism people were throwing at it. It was what, four chapters directly about it and it was intercut between the hunt for the bee user. The next time it shows up it's leading directly into the villain factory stuff. The theatrics is the framework between more serious elements in the same way the school is, and only one of these leads to constant tournament arcs.


 No.902946

>>902887

The entire premise of the series from the start was about a guy inheriting the most powerful quirk/power in the world and becoming the world's greatest hero. It literally says that at the beginning of very episode of the anime. Why'd you start watching in the first place?


 No.902953

>>902946

A lot of people get tricked into thinking Deku is some 300 IQ Genius who was cursed to be quirkless that gets a chance after having a very powerful quirk and has to work really hard for it. In reality all he does is yell "PLUS ULTRA!" at the top of his lungs in order to magically overcome his obstacles, he's so stupid he has to remember each and every hero into his book which he absolutely never reads or uses.


 No.902961

>>902945

>>902942

Well god damn, it did drop the whole idol shit. Good stuff.


 No.903180

Looks like the battle ends this week. Deku wins losing no team members just like Bakugou, so at least Hori didn't go full dick-sucking mode. And, more importantly, finally these goddamn battles are done. Jesus Christ this arc physically drained me of some of my lifeforce.


 No.903254

>>903180

I'm very excited to see where this goes. I'm already well in the camp that views this as a trashfire that was loaded onto a runaway train with no conductor and the tracks lead off a cliff. I just want to see where Hori will take the story next. Maybe it will get worse, maybe it will get better.

And by better I mean it will hopefully cause more drama and outrage.


 No.903292

File: 0b3bf6a31cef95c⋯.png (24.58 KB, 240x240, 1:1, wD2eoig3Pp9MdSgkOnz4CLNZP7….png)

Why does every fight get hyped up for a billion chapters just to end abruptly?


 No.903316

>>903292

Because the author is about to have a breakdown, he has no idea where the story should go, and he just wrote himself into a corner.


 No.903318

File: 9bef3b578dddd8e⋯.png (112.9 KB, 917x287, 131:41, 10.png)


 No.903356

>>902946

Because the side-characters were fun, and because a powerful character can be engaging, as long as he isn't incredibly, stupidly broken (which Deku is).

Long story short, I never watched the show for Deku. I find every other character more interesting.


 No.903358

>>902480

>>902512

And yet Dr. Manhattan can do all of their jobs better than they can. Their existence IS pointless.


 No.903359

>>903318

>The final chapter

So this is how the series ends


 No.903396

>I can use the black webs!

>OUCHIE

Oh for fuck's sake. He's gonna go through the same pain again. Bet this shit shreds his organs or something.


 No.903397

>>903318

Finally that shit ended. Now, let's see if he has anything grand planned out like he said he would for 2019.

>>903396

What if they black shit consumes him and he becomes symbiote Deku like Peter Parker went through?


 No.903418

File: 49f6c43206c8426⋯.png (172.87 KB, 482x490, 241:245, can't use it again.png)

>>903318

>wait 6 months to see Deku get new powers

>he can't use them again until he can go 100%

Oh wow another cocktease. Guess I gotta wait another few fucking years to see Deku do black whip again.

Bravo Hori


 No.903425

File: 69095663bb91164⋯.jpg (24.62 KB, 561x457, 561:457, 628958691.jpg)

>>903418

>waah, why cant Deku fully use his newly discovered powers at the fight?

Really, nigger?


 No.903441

>>903425

Don't reply to ShounensRdead


 No.903457

File: b2bb8ff493174b7⋯.jpg (115.24 KB, 392x450, 196:225, If big sea take my low.jpg)

>>903418

>Deku goes 100%

>200 chapters of black whip quirk training

>Deku discovers a new quirk

>200 chapters of training

>Deku discovers a new quirk

>200 chapters of training

>Deku discovers a new quirk

>200 chapters of training

>WSJ decides to cancel the series


 No.903488

File: 4a256acf49bd6a9⋯.gif (967.78 KB, 420x234, 70:39, BlaringZealousAmericanreds….gif)

>>903457

>WSJ decides to cancel the series

There is no way it's going to take that long, just look at how quickly Bleach got canned if you want proof. This is all so regrettable, the premise is good but the writer clearly has no idea of what to do with it.

Something that's been bothering me for years is why don't manga companies ever do reboots or relaunches? A series like MHA or Bleach is ideal for it and would be a lot better off if the writer was given a couple months prior to the first chapter to polish the story so the writing was all done in advance, preferably with a good co-writer to help iron out the kinks.


 No.903494

>>903418

>Next arc

>Deku is losing a fight

>suddenly has another internal dialog with one of the other OfA holders

>immediately learns how to 100% OfA

>unleashes 6 new quirks on the baddie all at once


 No.903495

>>903488

If by now you think this manga is getting axed, I'm sorry but you probably have some kind of brain damage.


 No.903496

>>903488

>>903495

I've heard it is disproportionately popular in the west but pretty sure it is making bank in Japan too.

Was Bleach cancelled for being unprofitable or just unpopular?


 No.903502

>>903488

>I wish publishing companies would let authors have a few months to plan things out.

Hahahhahaha. That would imply actual proper business practices. The manga and anime industry are known for the exact industry.

Never ever.


 No.903508

>>903496

Sales was never the problem. It had such a following that even hemorrhaging readers it still stayed on the payroll.

Same for BNHA. I don't think we'll ever know what happened, but it was clear that Kubo gave zero fucks about his manga by the end, maybe because of Jump's sweatshop policies or not doesn't matter. Also he had no intention of following it up, some mangaka are just not worth the trouble. It pretty much speaks volumes that years after this Kubo hasn't produced anything.

You need to do some serious shit for Jump to let go of a flagship title as a mangaka.


 No.903515

File: 489b481f5a2adeb⋯.webm (1.61 MB, 640x480, 4:3, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE….webm)

>>903488

>just look at how quickly Bleach got canned if you want proof.

It only took some 2 years of the Manga declining in popularity for the Anime to get shoa'd, with the Manga itself biting the dust 4 years later at which point barely anyone cared.

Sadly with how popular BnHA has gotten amid normalnegroes across the globe WSJ are more likely to start forcing Hori to appeal to western "audiences" should Nip readership decline, it's not like superhero comic books in CY0X are the equivalent to roadside carrion or anything.


 No.904604

>epilogue chapter

>wow it's fucking nothing

>next arc is more Eri shit

Well that was worth six months of everyone regressing


 No.904676

This manga a poo poo, this manga a poo poo, THIS MANGA A POO POO!


 No.904815

It says it all when the new chapter is out and there is not even any discussion about it


 No.904834

>>904815

It was clearly discussed here. >>904676


 No.904837

The reason there's no discussion is because this was wrap-up as predicted and the next arc won't be clear until one or two chapters as predicted.

The only thing worth discussing really is what will happen with Monoma and Eri, which will probably just be an explanation of how her quirk works so people don't expect her to miracle everyone to prime condition. It's nothing unexpected.

Mina is cute and Aizawa is retarded.


 No.904838

>>904837

Monoma will copy Eri's quirk, use it on Mirio to restore his and then they'll learn the grave consequences of it.


 No.904843

The raw movie is finally out. Takes a bit time before subs.


 No.904848

File: fad13a768779636⋯.png (163.31 KB, 639x597, 213:199, uraraka.png)

Trying to figure out if anyone else finds this funny or if I've completely lost touch at this point.


 No.904850

>>904848

Hasn't BnHA been averaging at #7 in the WSJ rankings throughout the past year?

I wonder how much farther it'll drop until the Olympics.


 No.904853

File: be059828e5e7def⋯.png (456.73 KB, 859x664, 859:664, HeroAcaOchakoMina.png)

I liked this part at least. It was more than I expected given this shitty arc.


 No.904900

>>904853

Why did she turn into a nigger?


 No.904933

>>904850

I never understood why you people are so afraid of the 2020 Olympics?


 No.904938

>>899081

>Also the idea that he will somehow lose function the next time he fucks up his arms, and after they're fixed makes no sense.

Sure it does. It was explained in the show, even. Imagine having a character in a video game who dies, and after getting resurrected, everything is back to normal, he can do all the things like he could do before, but his max health is permanently decreased. This happens every time he dies. It's the same idea with Deku's arms. Recovery Girl and the doctor(s) told him if he wrecked his arm 2 or 3 more times, that's it, there's no more free healing that can make them mostly functional again. With all the ridiculous things going on in the BnHA world, this idea is perfectly fine.

However, there are still LOTS of logical problems related to this even going by in-universe rules, like for example, how his legs should get absolutely wrecked as well if he ever tries using them at 100% too. It's not like fighting with kicks rather than punches is what's saving his arms, it's the fact he's holding back his max power. So using his legs is irrelevant, and also horribly unoriginal and creative. The biggest joke of the show itself was when it tried making Deku's sudden epiphany of "OMG I CAN USE MUH LEGZ!" as some super dramatic and clever breakthrough, which just made it seem all the more stupid.


 No.904949

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>>904933

Concerns that the Japs will try to make things kosher for the international attention that will be on them for the Olympics. "Problematic" content of any sort might well be censored/sanitized before the gaijin start kvetching about it come 2020.


 No.904957

File: 2ce029db83b54ca⋯.mp4 (4.79 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, AFO quote.mp4)

>>904838

which would be retarded as fuck. There should be zero reason to believe that Monoma can use other peoples quirks as well the the original owner, even AFO explicitly stated that he needed time to acclimate to and overcome the learning curve of quirks he permanently steals and he was a master far beyond 99.9% of quirk users.


 No.904961

>>904957

Also consider that AfO has the added benefit of having access to countless other quirks to ease the learning process. Any drawback or hurdle that a quirk has which would make it hard to use can be offset that learning curve and he still needs time to adjust to using someone else's powers. The whole cliche of a copycat who can use someone's powers better, more easily, and with greater effectiveness than the original holder has always pissed me off. Capeshit comics had a character named Blue Marvel who did this shit and he was so fucking awful that they just pretend he doesn't exist. BNHA should not be trying to copy that shit with a character who is already entirely unlikable and has one of the worst cliche'd powers in fiction.


 No.904967

File: 06df80772eeb973⋯.jpg (32.71 KB, 606x540, 101:90, 21f6096c19dd40e7628a85690f….jpg)

>>904957

>>904961

>AfO and Monoma's Copy are 100% the same

It was clear from the start that Monoma receives an inherent understanding of quirks he picks up unlike AfO.


 No.905003

>>904967

No it fucking wasn't, because that's a bullshit power beyond simply copying multiple quirks and literally nothing has ever been said about Monoma's quirk giving him the power to understand quirks. If he's so smart that he can instantly learn to use a power that someone else had to train constantly to master, there's no way he'd be such an obnoxious jobber. If his quirk lets him intuit how best to use and utilize a quirk, Hori is a fucking idiot, and this kid should be in a special training program tutoring every student at UA how to actually use their powers.


 No.905015

>>905003

What i dont get is how is this guy an underdog when he has the most op ability in the show?


 No.905048

File: d2653746cd7c077⋯.jpg (27.35 KB, 300x392, 75:98, fucking idiot.jpg)

>>905003

>giving him the power to understand quirks

The fact that he can use them naturally instantly?

> If he's so smart that he can instantly learn to use a power that someone else had to train constantly to master, there's no way he'd be such an obnoxious jobber.

Understanding as if its your own and mastering it are two completely separate things.

>If his quirk lets him intuit how best to use and utilize a quirk, Hori is a fucking idiot, and this kid should be in a special training program tutoring every student at UA how to actually use their powers.

Good thing Hori didnt do that. Eri doesnt even have a fundamental understanding of her own quirk and doesnt even know how to active it. Monoma with his quirk can should receive a baseline understand on how to at the very least active it.

Jesus Christ you fucks are stupid.


 No.905080

>>904938

>Imagine having a character in a video game who dies, and after getting resurrected, everything is back to normal, he can do all the things like he could do before, but his max health is permanently decreased.

So instead of using actual reason, you're pretending this is an RPG and his max HP decreases each time?


 No.905106

>>905080

No. I used that as illustration, I'm not claiming it's the literal case. The doctors and Recovery Girl have told him that he can't tear up his arms like he has been more than a few more times before the damage is totally irreparable. Which means that every time they got "fixed," they weren't perfectly repaired back to the way they were before their abuse. Every time he wrecked a part of his body, a certain extent of it became damaged beyond the ability to repair back to 100%. This is shown with his hand, for example, in that surgery needed to be done on it, and, as someone who had surgery done on his own hand, I can tell you that things never go back to how they were.

So no I'm not "pretending" it's some isekai, I'm using it as an analogy, but it's a very fitting one. So Deku's limbs right now are permanently worse off than they would have been if he'd never destroyed them at any point, that's essentially what they're saying.


 No.905115

>>905048

>his quirk doesn't let him instantly know how to use quirks!

>It just instantly lets him know how to use quirks!

>you're so stupid and I'm smart!

You know what's more likely, you dense fuckwit? He watches and studies the people whose quirks he intends to copy and learns the gist of how they use it. Most quirks have a very basic method of use, like touching something or focusing on something or exerting force with an arm. He's not granted the inherent ability to understand how to use a quirk, because, yet again, that's pure bullshit. He could touch someone who hasn't figured out their quirk and understand it before they could, if that were the case.

The reason they're bringing him to meet Eri is because Eri's power, as they painstakingly illustrated through the Overhaul arc, is closely tied to her emotions, and she's a child who has been brutally abused and exploited for her entire fucking life. Monoma isn't an emotionally compromised child and a series of trauma-induced mental blocks.


 No.905388

File: fbb3697af7514f8⋯.gif (1.79 MB, 509x289, 509:289, 1.gif)

File: 379b068b2fea4c5⋯.gif (9.5 MB, 888x437, 888:437, original.gif)

>>905106

>>905080

There is also the fact that certain parts of human physiology can't regenerate; the two most prominent in this case being tendons and joints, both of which Deku places an enormous amount of stress on so it's not at all strange strange that his arms are degrading.

>>905048

>The fact that he can use them naturally instantly?

except that's not the case, he very clearly failed to use OFA when he got it and was visibly surprised and intrigued by Bakugo's quirk when he copied it during the cavalry battle. I have to agree with >>905115 as it does seem like Monoma just has a keen eye for such things.

>>905115

>Monoma isn't an emotionally compromised child and a series of trauma-induced mental blocks.

true, but I don't think he's exactly mentally stable. Monoma's quirk allows him to copy abilities that are strongly tied to a persons biochemistry (like Bakugo nitro sweat) which means his body and brain structure can radically change itself within seconds so his psyche and physiology has to be in constant state of instability (which is probably why shows so many signs of megalomania).


 No.905496

>>905388

>Monoma's quirk allows him to copy abilities that are strongly tied to a persons biochemistry

This is why I've always found copycat characters in super-powered settings to be really, really bullshit. Especially when there's a direct physiological element involved. I find power nullified characters just as bad, because both kinds of powers involve either rapidly recreating a set of lifelong physical traits developed from birth, or instantaneously undoing something that is built into their fucking organs.


 No.905500

>>905388

A small correction, since the surgery on my hand was done specifically to repair a tendon: you're right in that they don't regenerate like missing muscle tissue might. But they do repair, and they can heal so long as the two severed parts of the tendon are connected. Tendons are basically internal rubber bands connecting the muscles to the bones, if one snaps or gets cut, that's the end of it without surgery. If you can get surgery to pull it back into place and tie it down/together, it will heal, but you're not going to have the same range of motion as before.


 No.905561

File: c180e50f8110bd2⋯.jpg (15.23 KB, 188x268, 47:67, fuggingmutants.jpg)

>>905115

>Most quirks have a very basic method of use, like touching something or focusing on something or exerting force with an arm.

How do you know this? Nowhere does it say this. If anything it seems to be something instinctual considering that its firmly weaved in the DNA of a person.

>that's pure bullshit

Why? My point is that Monoma has a component to his quirk that allows him to instantly adjust to copied quirks whiles All for One doesnt and he actually has to try and figure out how to use them.

>He could touch someone who hasn't figured out their quirk and understand it before they could, if that were the case.

Thats my point. And thats why Aizawa wants his help with Eri.

>The reason they're bringing him to meet Eri is because Eri's power, as they painstakingly illustrated through the Overhaul arc, is closely tied to her emotions, and she's a child who has been brutally abused and exploited for her entire fucking life. Monoma isn't an emotionally compromised child and a series of trauma-induced mental blocks.

This doesnt contradict my point. Both could be possible.

>>905388

>he very clearly failed to use OFA

No, he clearly used it, he even used Full Cowl, something Deku has to concentrate to do he did instantly. The problem is that he copied base OfA, not the stockpiled power. He clearly used it because he had the shading effect on his skin. Plus the fact that he based his plan around copying OfA which means he was very confident about being able to use. He did have a doubt about copying Deku's quirk, but that wasnt because he was afraid of not being able to use but because he feared breaking his body.

>Visibly surprised and intrigued by Bakugo's quirk when he copied it during the cavalry battle

He said that was a really good quirk, nowhere did he act surprised. And he instant knew how to active both component of it, the sweating and the explosion trigger.

>I have to agree with >>905115 as it does seem like Monoma just has a keen eye for such things.

Except he has never seen Deku use Full Cowl prior to this fight yet he used it. And as far as we know the lightning and skin shading effect is only a visual cue for the viewer and not something in universe because nobody has mentioned not once in 216 chapters.


 No.905578

>>904900

Got embarrassed so hard she went Ganjuro


 No.905608

>>905388

>There is also the fact that certain parts of human physiology can't regenerate; the two most prominent in this case being tendons and joints

Gee, it would sure be a problem if someone introduced you to collagen, both the bodily production of it and sources that you can acquire it from for your diet and in supplement form. You meant that as a joke, right?


 No.905712

>AfO doesn't copy skill based quirks because they're too difficult to master

>introduce a copy character who master and surpass the original holder in moments

This unbelievable levels of bullshit, why? What's the point?


 No.905744

>>905712

what if monoma's copy quirk comes with understanding of it?

I mean, AfO doesn't copy, he steals. They're his after he takes them. Whereas monoma's is temporary for only a few minutes.


 No.905775

>>905712

Not quite, his ability is to figure out the nature of a quirk much quicker than anyone else. He doesn't gain mastery of it just knowledge.

He still wouldn't be able to handle the strain of Bakugou's stored explosions or Deku's OfA (if it were possible). He also doesn't gain technical knowledge, as opposed to Deku who seems very adept at assimilating other people's techniques.

I guess that's the point of having him meet Eri. Eri only has a very narrow idea of how her quirk works and bias because it was used to harm people.


 No.906299

File: a9a68beea177443⋯.gif (70.81 KB, 379x387, 379:387, HeroAcaOchakoChew.gif)

Spoilers are floating around.

>Only 13 pages again (hype for Horikoshi death?)

>Just more wrap up shit

>Class A and B getting along

>Todoroki texts his dad

>Monoma brought to Eri

>Can't copy her quirk or Deku's

>No villains

>No chapter next week (he really is dying isn't he?)


 No.906410

File: d1adf86996dc70e⋯.png (314.8 KB, 590x615, 118:123, capture (2).PNG)

It's definitely happening.


 No.906413

He's finally getting that break that he wanted and it looks like Monoma cant copy quirk that you need to accumulate something which means Eri's quirk is an accumulating quirk


 No.906415

File: db3b5d4c62f921f⋯.png (169.39 KB, 889x335, 889:335, ClipboardImage.png)

>>905561

Wow! Would you look at that!? Monoma has no idea how to use quirks just by copying them!


 No.906419

File: 2a046fe0f072883⋯.gif (97.4 KB, 147x162, 49:54, 2a046fe0f07288308745686460….gif)

>>906415

>literally explains why

Are you TRYING to be dense?


 No.906453

Jesus fuck where do I even begin?

>Bakugou helping Deku even though he said he was going to surpass him

>Nobody except Shouto cares about their match outcomes even if they exposed some major flaws

>Shouto training arc that will magically bridge the gap between him and his father teased

>The fact Hori introduced all these new Deku quirks and then reinforces the fact that he won't be able to use them in the forseeable future

>Everyone easily determines Eri's quirk can stockpile shit despite being completely oblivious about it the last time

>Next arc won't start until March, thus making this arc 7 months in length and longer than the tournament arc that was actually fun to read

It's amazing how Hori can write nothing and still fuck up monumentally at the same time.


 No.906460

>>906419

>Doesn't know how to activate it

>Doesn't know what it even accumulates

>Can't tell Eri how to use her own power

>Directly stated they were going to have him LEARN how to use it

Monoma is a plot device at best. Accept it.


 No.906570

>>906419

>and learn to use it

can you not read?


 No.906574

>>906460

They say that she can activate it but can't use it efficiently. Just like Monoma might copy a quirk but that doesn't mean he becomes good at using it. Are you illiterate?


 No.906576

File: d2a303a2ba8e76c⋯.jpg (67.28 KB, 888x768, 37:32, DrUQGxDVsAAwNv2.jpg)

>>906574

>Just like Monoma might copy a quirk but that doesn't mean he becomes good at using it.

This is a pretty clear distinction from the previously asserted (and baseless) belief that Monoma's quirk is packaged in with some some kind of instinctual, instant understanding of how to use any quirk he copies.


 No.906580

>>906576

Exactly, only reason why he knows how to use some quirks is because he has seen them in action at some time prior.


 No.906671

File: dd1406d8c40e3a1⋯.gif (363.63 KB, 540x300, 9:5, 05b8ca30135c0bdacb04b1dda5….gif)

With this whole Monoma/Eri thing, I'd say both sides have points.

Monoma can clearly copy Eri's quirk and knows it's limits, but is unable to use it without the so called 'resource' it relies on. Comparing it to something, it'd be like saying Eri's quirk is a car- the moment he copied it, he got a car of his own and instantly knew how to use it via a theoretical manual. The issue is, is that whereas Monoma knows how to use it, he doesn't have any fuel; whereas Eri has the fuel, but not how to drive it.

Monoma knows where the fuel goes in, what the fuel roughly looks like, what it does; but without it, he fundamentally doesn't understand what it is or how the car works without using it himself. It could be Diesel, Unleaded or Rocket Fuel for all he cares; but without it he can neither use the proverbial car, nor advise anyone else how to use it.

You can't learn how to drive a car by reading manuals like Monoma effectively is. That's the point of contention.


 No.906679

Any fanfic writers around?


 No.906691

File: 14525e3970e12bc⋯.png (4.11 KB, 356x376, 89:94, 8ac411b55af13299e93904127f….png)

>>906576

I was proven wrong but that doesnt mean its baseless as I explained in my post prior to the reveal.


 No.906723

>>906671

>Comparing it to something, it'd be like saying Eri's quirk is a car-

Are you the same piece of subhuman shit that keeps drawing out RPG analogies? You don't need analogies. No one asked for them. You aren't speaking to anyone stupider than you are.


 No.906761

File: 7aefee0ada0eb5e⋯.gif (442.92 KB, 506x516, 253:258, 7aefee0ada0eb5e7ddd94ac3e2….gif)

>>906723

What the fuck is your problem, nigger?


 No.906767

>>906679

Surely you jodan. Everyone became a fanfic writer last thread. Half of the ideas made to fix the series were better than what we're getting now.

>>906754

Just watch the first four episodes. Then watch the two All-Might fights on youtube. Then read this thread in its entirety.

If you still want more, accept your cursed fate and continue. Otherwise stop there and save yourself from the autism. If you accept it, then welcome; because you will be here forever, and wondering where it went wrong or wondering if anything ever went right.

Alternatively, if autism and trainwrecks is what you're looking for then ignore all warnings and begin watching and continue from Chapter 124 immediately after. Welcome aboard.


 No.906768

>>906767

Oh wow another retard pretending to be a jaded fuck who can't enjoy anything. How original.


 No.906861

File: e7d52a75931ecdc⋯.jpeg (84.26 KB, 600x338, 300:169, three dimensional charact….jpeg)

>>906768

>Oh wow another retard pretending to be a jaded fuck who can't enjoy anything. How original.

Who's pretending or otherwise just jaded? It sounds like you might be upset though. Has each passing thread not made it clear that people enjoy the series even if it's a mess, and even enjoy talking about with people who are concerned over its flaws and see it in decline?

Feel free to pretend otherwise. Spoilers: Pretending otherwise is not going to make people automatically agree with you, that you think people who discuss the series and its flaws are "pretending to be jaded."

>>>/triggered/


 No.906936

>>906861

I wonder how the tournament arc of zero reason will be adopted in the anime.


 No.906982

File: 9d9d6957c2f2dea⋯.jpg (54.73 KB, 576x396, 16:11, idiots.jpg)

>>906723

>make an example so it translates better

<therefore he's this person

<<therefore you don't need to try to make your point translate

<<<therefore nobody asked for that person, so you should leave

<<<<therefore you're stupid

Calm the fuck down

>>906861

You're a fucking moron. Nobody had any real issue with the series as a whole until some fucking cuckchan crossposting dipshit started posting here with their fucking bait; which either;

1. You fell for hook, line and sinker in an attempt to 'blend in'

2. You are that fuckwit who's been shitting up threads for no reason

Am I disputing that the series has flaws? No. So don't even try to pull that one on me. There is a difference between seeing flaws and calling the entire series a mess.

Polite sage for tangential but ultimately offtopic


 No.907056

File: 7fb107e71874e29⋯.gif (2.93 MB, 310x174, 155:87, Deku animation by Benjamin….gif)

Found a thing


 No.907066

>>906982

>Nobody had any real issue with the series as a whole until some fucking cuckchan crossposting dipshit

Are you really this delusional when it comes to a goddamn shonen of all things? The series is bad. It doesn't take a bad goy from the other side of the fence to trick people into seeing that.


 No.907092

>>907066

And if you think it's bad you can just fuck right off.

A hobbyist website and thread doesn't need people to shit on its subject matter, it doesn't provide any value. Shitting on something is not an opinion and neither is defeatist posts calling out a trainwreck. Go find your dumb memes elsewhere.


 No.907149

>>907092

>And if you think it's bad you can just fuck right off.

How about you conform or fuck off somewhere else instead of letting people derail with their abnormalities? Follow your own advice. You are under no obligation to respond to me.


 No.907151

>>907149

>How about you conform or fuck off somewhere else

The irony is palpable.


 No.907152

>>907151

Follow your own advice. You can bitch and moan as much as you'd like about people commenting on things you don't like, but every time you respond, you invite more criticism.


 No.908111

File: 3aa490cf1faebd9⋯.jpg (100.1 KB, 615x767, 615:767, 2018080863005.jpg)

So how can Deku say he's a hero when he already failed to save people around him


 No.908427


 No.909252

Imagine being Hori and seeing Vigilantes routinely kick your ass at handling characters, stories and humour. God damn.

Will Captain Celebrity actually die though? The death flags are so gigantic that it feels almost too obvious to kill him off.

>Wife and newborn baby waiting in USA

>Finally cleared his court issues

>Beloved and seen as heroic

>Cleaned up his character

>Massive going away party

>Appeared on a title page looking good

He's either totally fucked or going to narrowly survive his send-off in a dramatic fashion.


 No.909593

its funny that everyone hates the league of villains.


 No.909624

>>909593

What's there to like?


 No.909648

New thread or do we not care enough?


 No.909728

>>909648

Personally I don’t really care. I say keep this thread. Not like anything is happening in the manga itself.


 No.909787

File: a6583e10937d92f⋯.png (502.65 KB, 913x1300, 913:1300, 09.png)

File: 7f71104de21d848⋯.png (960.79 KB, 923x1300, 71:100, 16.png)

New arc looks good, looks like we're delving into either corporate psychos or the Joker. Either that or Destro Jr is being set up a few chapters in advance, and this arc is to do with the Bakugo/Shoto vs Villain conflict at the end.

Link: https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/my-hero-academia/en/0/218/page/1

>>909728

>not like anything is happening in the manga itself

>new arc is revolving around an apparently AfO-tier aspect of villain society


 No.909807

File: 57f0eecd80c8f22⋯.png (787.58 KB, 1075x611, 1075:611, again.png)

>faggots still denying these threads took a 360 right as 4um posters arrived


 No.911139

>>909787

>Villains introduced by killing a guy

>VA getting beat on out of the gate

>Black market bullshit again

It's literally the yakuza arc but with Bakugou as the lead. Wow I'm so excited.


 No.911193

The balding Joker might even blow up a hospital.

>>911139

Well, continuing on posting sure shows your interest in it. Is it that you can't currently watch some other series right now?




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