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 No.903428

In today's episode: we learn about parenting.

 No.903431

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 No.903432

& here I thought they would wrap this up in one episode. Is reddit calling it literal rape yet?


 No.903433

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 No.903444

does this show seem too dark for anyone else? There's so many close up shots with absolutely black backgrounds.


 No.903446

Is it just me or is there a lot less focus on the main character in this part than the previous ones?


 No.903450

File: d71775043230e0f⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 80.48 KB, 600x800, 3:4, d78.jpg)

>>903446

No it's just you Bruno has a good amount of focus in this part.


 No.903451

File: 25ebf61df4a9478⋯.jpg (114.87 KB, 710x857, 710:857, 25ebf61df4a947808b47a674bf….jpg)

Daily reminder that it's okay to lewd the JoJos and to want to waifu their genderbent and normal versions, to cuddle with love and impregnate.


 No.903453

>>903446

It's not just you. Others have said that Bruno is the real main character of part 5 and rightfully so. Giorno is a shit character if you ask me. He's just kind of bland and autistic, with no real personality or motivation.


 No.903456

>>903453

Trying to make a blend of JoJo and Dio, giving him such an obviously unbeatable power from the start you're forced to nerf him to shit by the end of the first arc and still having him be the most powerful JoJo by far will do that to you. So will choosing that JoJo+Dio means an emotionally detached twat who's so much cooler headed than anyone else he's obviously a better strategist even though he's a nobody in the business. It's not his fault, really, it's Araki's for starting part 5 so fucking awfully even his best attempt at backpedaling ends up with the literal power of "nuh huh, I win". Giorno is just a cheap motherfucker through and through, and though Araki tries his best to give him growth (most notably in the infamous 5-page oraora), he just started from such a impossibly shitty place the only way to make Vento Aureo even remotely palatable was to make Bruno the protagonist in every conceivable way.


 No.903465

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>>903453

>He's just kind of bland and autistic, with no real personality or motivation.

Just like me, then.


 No.903467

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>>903465

Same here.


 No.903468

Why do Trish clothes look sluttier every episode?


 No.903470

>>903446

I think it's kind of like Part 3 again, where there isn't too much focus on the main Jojo, and the whole crew is the main focus.


 No.903545

File: fb7226697ef5f15⋯.gif (455.37 KB, 245x190, 49:38, 1408759438633[1].gif)

Ive had a thought about all the names being changed. I feel like its ether everyone has a limited idea what "copyright" means or I underestimate the music industry.

I've always been under the impression you can name drop real life things in stories. I've read so many books that have named real life bands or products. It's so common place that I don't understand how it effects jojo this way. Naming something is not the same as them reading off the lyrics or singing the songs so why would it be changed at all. Like with Crazy Diamond. How is that changed but a tv show can have a character say "Shine on you crazy diamond." with no effect.

I refuse to watch the dubs but I find it funny to think of a dub only watcher not knowing any of the real names.

tl;dr Why do they change the names when you're allowed to name real life bands in TV shows and books


 No.903633

>>903545

Mentioning a band as themselves is acknowledging them. Naming a fictional entity after a band is creating intellectual property and, as far as the law is concerned, implying you have a right to their name. Whether that's fair or unfair is a matter left up to the judge, but the point is that it's definitely reason enough to get a lawsuit going.

This can fly in the manga because in Japan, every gaijin trying to make a copyright claim would just be showed the door. But in publishing in the west, copyright holders would be able to challenge it in court. Doesn't mean they necessarily would do it, but it's not worth the hassle to find out. Hence, Worse Company.


 No.903657

>>903633

Why does anime have fake name companies like Goodle and NotMcDonalds when portraying them as their real life counterparts? It's like they aren't allowed to acknowledge that those companies (after the real life versions, not an anime original intellectual property) exist in their anime.


 No.903663

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>>903657

That's a good question, though not limited to anime. How many times have you seen "BEER" brand beer in a show or film? Or any inane not-google search engine? Same thing.

From what I know of copyright disputes, the main point of scrutiny in any competent court is whether the defendant is profiting off a brand name in such a way that they compete on the same field. So an anime episode mentioning taco bell could not reasonably be construed as piggybacking off the diarrhea factory to sell their own enchiladas, and such a case should by all rights be dismissed. Should, because nothing's ever certain in a trial and judges are much pettier and stupider than they should be.

The fact is that a trial, even if you have 100% chance to win it, is tiresome, lengthy, and expensive, especially against a big corporation that can afford to claim the most ridiculous shit and retrial it until the bitter end, so when you're in the entertainment industry and are already praying to be in the 10% most successful, you don't fucking risk it.

And then there's the matter of sponsorship and licensing, which I don't know much about, but it has become standard practice for brands to either pay or get paid for a favorable mention in media. So even if you technically didn't infringe copyright, a company can still sue you for unauthorized mention. That seems to me to be much more bullshit than the copyright situation since it's purely defending corporate maneuvers instead of intellectual property (and again, big companies have a ridiculous advantage in a trial since they can be as ludicrous as they want and it will hurt their opponent more), but as I said I'm not too versed in that subject.


 No.903686

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>>903633

>>903663

I guess the only thing left to bitch about is how Stephen king gets away with naming a character after King Crimson, but jojo can't. I doubt he asked if he could.


 No.903689

>>903633

That's really retarded though, as band names are just completely normal words.

I understand it with names like McDonald's or Google as they're "fabricated" names, but stuff like crazy diamond?

If I see some weird weird diamond am I not allowed to call it crazy?

Kraftwerk literally translates to "power plant". Guess we have to rename real life power plants in Germany now.


 No.903690

>>903470

Both kind of suffer from a similar type of main character, though I give Jotaro a bit more leeway then I do Giorno.


 No.903691

>>903545

Big companies try to copyright everyday words so no one can use them. Basically if you have money you can sue everybody and they might lose rights to their own name. Lawyers will do anything for the money and they are payed by hour.

>>903686

Correction, current translators cant.


 No.903693

>>903689

Like >>903663 said:

>The fact is that a trial, even if you have 100% chance to win it, is tiresome, lengthy, and expensive, especially against a big corporation that can afford to claim the most ridiculous shit and retrial it until the bitter end, so when you're in the entertainment industry and are already praying to be in the 10% most successful, you don't fucking risk it.

They probably just want to cover their asses in case some bored lawyer catches a whiff of potential shekels.


 No.903696

>>903690

I think Giorno, or at least his stand, can be compared more to Part 8 Josuke, both have bullshit stands that got nerfed, in the beginning Soft and Wet could take one attribute out of ti's target, like the friction on the floor or the entire fucking water out of a human and now it's just bubbles that can carry stuff. It's what happens when your stand is so abstract like creating life out of anything or substantiating an attribute, can work for one off villains, but not protagonists. Good protagonist stands have been Part 4 Josuke and Part 6 Jolyne, as in they were simple enough(restore an object, and create string), but they were versatile enough without entering into bullshit territories all that much. Jotaro's stand was basic, and while it did pull some bullshit like Star Finger or Time Stop, it was mostly a fast and strong stand, but it was also the first time stands were introduced so he gets a pass. Johnny started in the same category as Jotaro, a basic projectile stand, but it did evolve and get closer to something more versatile.


 No.903733

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>>903693

So it's as I first said. I underestimate the music industry. It's funny that Cars is just Kars as if that makes it go away. I'd love to see them somehow change Funny Valentine's name.

Silly Lover?

At least it never effected reading the manga.

>>903696

I love jojo, but man does Ariki not think things though sometimes. I feel maybe it being a weekly thing made him rush ideas of powers then having to dial it back or make the character go away when it's too good. I forgot Soft & Wet even did that shit. Somehow I forgot chucks of Part 8 and I've been up to date with it since 2014. I might need to re-read.


 No.903737

>>903733

>Silly Lover?

Ronald Bump.


 No.903751

>>903733

Funny Valentino.


 No.903758

>>903733

Amusing Sweetheart.


 No.903766

>>903733

They could name him after the actual 23rd US president.


 No.903776

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>>903766

The one who took the first napkin determines everything. The rules of this world are determined by the same principle as 'right, or Left?'! In a society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move everyone must follow! In every era...This world has been operating by this napkin principle.


 No.903780

File: 67d1df152e3df68⋯.png (499.54 KB, 768x978, 128:163, D4C.png)

Made a better one.

My heart and actions are utterly unclouded. They are all those of 'Justice'.


 No.903903

I'm so fucking excited for the White Album fight coming up next. I think we'll see him teased at the end of next episode and then the fight starts proper after that.


 No.903907

>>903686

To be completely fair the Dark Tower character is named the Crimson King.


 No.904068

>>903903

It might be one of the best fights in part 5.

>>903907

My counter to that is the track Court of the Crimson King and if that's the case Crazy Diamond should be fine since that's not the name of the song.


 No.904083

How does a computer impregnate someone?


 No.904085

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>>904083

With a dongle


 No.904089

>>904068

Not defending any kind of censorship jewry I just wanted to clarify. Also I forgot about the track title.


 No.904419

File: cd445bfd5f16aa6⋯.gif (119.74 KB, 270x270, 1:1, ppp.gif)

At the end, the rape/pregnancy thing manage to stir up some drama?


 No.904503

>>904419

Baby Face is a weird enough stand that I can see anyone who'd made it this far into Jojo not being offended by it. On the other hand, I might be overestimating the insanity of feminists.


 No.904511

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>>904503

I meant "overestimating the sanity of feminists".


 No.904520

>>904503

always assume feminists will be "offended" even though JoJo has a whole part of mostly woman and has plenty of female stand users before and since part 6.


 No.904522

>>904520

The idea of women being good at combat is about as believable as people being possessed by punchghosts named after guitarists, so I'll allow it in fiction.


 No.904573

>>904511

German nipple engineering is the greatest in the world!


 No.904871

>>903903

The next fight I'm looking forward to after White Album is probably Metallica.


 No.904873

>>904522

Stands are pretty much just spirit guns so physical strength isn't needed to be powerful.


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>>904871

They better not censor it. That's also when we get best boy.


 No.905012

>>904871

You mean pale scrapbook and metallurgy?


 No.905030

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[audience laughs]

[applause]


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 No.905069


 No.905070

File: dc54e0f50e1edd8⋯.png (1.49 MB, 1909x1080, 1909:1080, ClipboardImage.png)

>>905069

This anime is /o/ aproved


 No.905083

>>905070

I'm one of the 8 people that still post there and I approve. I also have a bias love for that car.


 No.905097

>>905041

So just why the fuck was Pericolo incapable of giving them information, instead of just being a relay TO information? It seems really stupid, so there's probably some kind of catch like the disc isn't just information but some kind of object like the turtle. But it's still getting dumb. Go to point A to get a clue for how to get to Point B to get an object that will help you get to Point C at which point you will receive an order telling you how to obtain the clue for how to get to Point D... did this jackass play way too much Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego while moving up to being the Boss??


 No.905113

>>905097

The point is that he's insanely paranoid and you REALLY can't take chances when your own people have all sort of bizarre fucked up powers.


 No.905159

is Ghiaccio Araki's best one-off villain?

great design, great power, great personality schtick, great fight, he's easily the Hol Horse of Vento Aureo


 No.905160

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>>905030

>>905042

>Ghiaccio was bizarrely intense

>Anime went out of their way to make him look ugly

And David was doing so well too.


 No.905268

>>905097

Probably because the Boss didnt just planned to get rid of Trish, but everyone else who know about her... which means Team Bucciarati would be killed after the delivery too.


 No.905277

>>905268

>the Boss didnt just planned to get rid of Trish, but everyone else who know about her

You have way too much faith in both the Boss and VO's overall scenario.


 No.905282

>>905277

>You have way too much faith in both the Boss and VO's overall scenario.

Well he is batshit insane.

>>905097

>Why

Because he is already a gangstar and this is exactly what gangstars do.


 No.905313

>>905097

I'm guessing you haven't read the manga, in which case you better be ready for the rest of this part because it really goes places you wouldn't expect shortly after this.


 No.905353

>risotto

Why is the bad guy named Italian rice dish?


 No.905361

>>905353

Dragonball reference maybe?


 No.905363

>>905353

The other bad guys so far have been named Fish, Ice and Cheese.


 No.905368

>>905353

What's wrong, too bizarre for you?


 No.905389

>>905282

>he is batshit insane

Isn't this the case for basically every arc villain and the grand majority of the minor antagonists? Because it seems to be a pretty solid running theme that Araki makes the heroes calm and cool and the baddies screaming lunatics.

>this is exactly what gangstars do

So Carmen Sandiego was a gangstar. I knew it!


 No.905428

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>>905389

Kira had a fetish and he was raised that way and he is better than foot fetishists. Unless you consider criminality as insanity he is not insane. Dio was just an asshole with power. Kars was perfectly(npi) sane. No one was a real fucking lunatic before the boss.

Joseph was a trickster, Jonathan was super calm and shill, yes. Jotaro was not calm, he was silent and he solve a lot of problems by punching shit to death until very much later where he become calm. Josuke was just a normal guy.


 No.905429

>>905428

>shill

Chill*


 No.905525

>>905428

>Unless you consider criminality as insanity

MOST people do! Especially when such criminality consists of mass-murder, a great deal of which was only as a result of paranoia (which was actually a self-fulfilling prophecy).

Dio was insane. Full-stop. His introduction consisted of killing a dog for funsies, and only went up from there. He was a simple, cackling-mad shounen villain. Don't sugarcoat it. Later characters gained some measures of complexity, but never Dio.


 No.905566

>>905525

>killing a dog for funsies

That was to deliberately destabilize Jonathan, not a random act of violence.


 No.905573

>>905566

What about making that woman eat her own baby? He could have vampirized her while avoiding the entire shitshow, but he wanted to get his jollies off because he's a complete psycho


 No.905580

>>905573

Dio is insane and evil, but a he's a villain that fancies himself as being superior and deserving of being superior. That scene was to show the mental gymnastics he's willing to jump through to consider himself to be in the right. Same thing with his peace of mind bullshit talk to Polnareff at the end of SC. I agree he isn't a complex villain, but he thinks he is.


 No.905598

File: 90e1f2422e47784⋯.jpg (77.44 KB, 487x460, 487:460, Chaika.jpg)

>>905070

Oh fuck, it looks like Chaika.


 No.905633

>>905525

>all people that do bad things are insane!


 No.905684

>>905566

In which case he's insane for gaslighting his own (adopted) family because of a delusion of superiority.

>>905633

>Some people who do minor bad things aren't insane, therefore ANY bad things are totally okay!

Right back at you, motherfucker.


 No.905687

>>905363

And a ham


 No.905709

>>903733

Honestly I would be shocked if any shonen manga writer had planned for the event that their series would blast off in popularity and last a decade or more. Especially the weekly shonen stuff to write & draw out like 20ish pages. It’s probably better mentally to write by the seat of your pants and just write what pops into your head first.


 No.905729

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 No.905730

>>905729

Giorno-chan reminds me a bit of Venus-san in that artstyle.


 No.905736

>>905709

This pretty much. There's no point in spending time and effort constructing perfect, intricate plots if your first 3 chapters are gonna keep getting rejected, or your series will flop past the first 3 greenlit chapters, or if it gets cancelled long before the plot pays off.


 No.905791

>>905709

That's no longer an excuse by the time Araki got to writing Part Fucking Five. You can excuse a lot of the silly stuff in the first two parts as the series' growing pains, but by the time Stardust Crusaders rolled around, it was pretty obviously a hit series and going to be continuing for as long as he wrote it. Really it just seems a case of making the hero's powers extremely vague so they can fit any situation and drive the plot, rather than taking the plot (which I assume he has a rough outline for at least) and trying to bend the character to fit it.

>>905729

It's amazing how clear this makes it that his hairstyle looks really, really stupid. Like she applied too much sticky hairspray and then fell face-first into a goddamned box of donuts.


 No.905811

File: 595eed537437fdb⋯.png (1.35 MB, 1151x680, 1151:680, Polpo_An_Hero.PNG)

>>904085

FUCK YOU CA-

Nevermind, I chortled


 No.905815

>>905791

Do not bully Giorno-chan about her haircut, she worked very hard to make it as cute as possible.


 No.905819

File: 2e36c97d905cb4f⋯.jpg (106.25 KB, 1000x667, 1000:667, shocking vroom.jpg)

>>905070

Wankel engines are far too underappreciated.


 No.905924

>>905815

>Giorno-chan

>Not Alba-chan


 No.905928

>>905819

But the MX-5 never had one.


 No.905930

>>905684

No, he specifically said "bad things," not "okay." Those things are practically opposite. You, however, are saying that just doing bad things makes you insane. In that case, prison shouldn't exist, and every criminal should just be found not guilty by reason of insanity.

Dio is ambitious and lusts for as much power as possible. Go ahead and call that insane if you want. At this point it really comes down to what you call insane. Personality traits you don't like? What we call insane has become much too broad. Dio doesn't have brain problems, he's just ambitious.


 No.905941

>>905930

Your argument kind of falls apart when you consider insanity pleas don't work 90% of the time, and when they do, it commitment to a facility that, unlike prison, doesn't have a term limit.


 No.905964

File: 16cbed3c0ede7bb⋯.jpg (609.49 KB, 810x1080, 3:4, 16cbed3c0ede7bb8775a7afe97….jpg)

How are the LNs? I've caught up with the colored mango and now I have nothing else to ora about.

Also, how come there's no porn of the female stands?


 No.905966

>>905580

>>905573

I personally dont even think he was a sadist, I think he was narcissist. Which is a disorder but in most cases its considered to be a form of norm. And its not like he was more insane than most violent people, he just could get away with more.

>>Some people who do minor bad things aren't insane, therefore ANY bad things are totally okay!

>Right back at you, motherfucker.

Sanity is not moral or immoral. Its sane or insane, not good or bad.


 No.905974

>>905964

>how come there's no porn of the female stands?

There is

>>>/rec/


 No.906009

>>905930

Plenty of people are ambitious without murdering others or abusing animals or emotionally torturing their brother or sexually assaulting women or attempting to attain immortality through ancient Aztec Vampire powers.

Just why the fuck are you defending this behavior as normal, anyway? Maybe you're the one who is insane.


 No.906025

>>905941

That's exactly my point. Doing bad things doesn't mean you're insane.

>>906009

I'm not saying it's "normal," I'm saying it's bad. Saying it's insane implies it's out of his control, like he's sick. He's not. He's just a bad person whose ambition causes him to not care about stepping on others. "Insanity" doesn't make someone bad, it makes them sick. Dio is just bad.


 No.906225

>>906025

There is no such thing as a "bad person". That's religious propaganda creating us versus them scenarios and pretending as if evil is some kind of inherent natural condition rather than a classification of an act, and therefore it can never be perpetrated by a "good person". Classifying humans into inherent and immutable "good" and "bad" groups is nonsense, and is the root cause of every kind of bigotry on the planet.

If your car's computer suddenly causes it to accelerate into a wall, it had some kind of fault; it wasn't a "bad car". You'd be called an idiot if you said your fucking car was "evil" because it wasn't working properly. People are no different. Why would they be? If Dio is a megalomaniac who gets off by causing pain, he's fucked in the head; this is not typical human behavior and actually results in harm to himself as well as others. He has identifiable and classifiable mental disorders that cause bad behaviors, which means his brain isn't working correctly, which means he is insane. QED.


 No.906227

File: d0aed82d259d789⋯.jpg (64.26 KB, 1136x640, 71:40, d0aed82d259d7895a865bda9ad….jpg)

>>906225

>there is no such thing as objective morality, goy maaaaaan

>but being a bigot is bad okay

Where do you think you are?


 No.906234

>>906227

>teh joos!

Not /pol/, which is where YOU think we are.


 No.906236

>>906225

>saying bad people exist is religious propaganda

>Classifying humans into inherent and immutable "good" and "bad" groups

You say that, but there's no single major religion that says good and bad is inherent and immutable.


 No.906243

File: 145cb0af0bcb6b8⋯.png (394.81 KB, 890x1080, 89:108, 6e7971032f.png)

>>906225

>be bad person

>now your bad personality is classified as mental disorder

>be not bad anymore


 No.906332

Fuck off to a different board faggots, you're derailing this to a non anime discussion and it's painfully obvious.


 No.906401

>>906225

>Recognizing good and evil is religious propaganda

>"You shouldn't classify people into arbitrary categories of good or evil, except for those nasty bigots"

>"let me construct an apples and oranges argument based around comparing human beings, who have agency and free will, to inanimate objects which do not."

You left leaning parasite, do you expect me to sit here and listen to your drivel?


 No.906482

File: f5db108c7828ca0⋯.jpg (402.53 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, [HorribleSubs] JoJo's Biza….jpg)

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 No.906483

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 No.906484

File: d5ed3ecea98ce7a⋯.jpg (452.21 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, [HorribleSubs] JoJo's Biza….jpg)

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>If you shoot yourself you win

I would never have expected Mista to adopt the canadian military doctrine.


 No.906485

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 No.906491

File: 800b39047f6ef24⋯.png (886.93 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, vlcsnap-2019-02-15-16h06m4….png)

If JoJo was made by Netflix


 No.906520

File: edd8b035eb7b916⋯.gif (201.73 KB, 320x160, 2:1, nohomo.gif)

>>906401

>Bitch bitch cry moan cry cry

Yes, I do expect you to listen to me. Mostly because it makes you so upset, which means I've hit a nerve somewhere. If it was completely untrue, you would just ignore it, like how you ignore people who say the Earth is flat or climate change isn't happening.

My point was that there is no such thing as an evil person, only evil actions; and that pretending that people arbitrarily classified as "evil" are the only ones who ever perform evil actions is delusional and contrary to reality. You DO realize you're taking what was originally a discussion about the idiotic black-and-white, hero-versus-villain shounen cliche existed in early JoJo and attempting to claim that that's how real people are, right? You are an actual child in your mentality. It's pathetic, and all you can do in response is bitch about "muh leftism". Grow the fuck up and look at the world around you, instead of mentally fellating yourself with your /pol/ buddies and thinking that's reality. It's not.

>>906491

Every so often, Araki feels compelled to throw a gay joke into the mix when the amount of homoeroticism reaches critical mass.


 No.906533

I forget how good Mista is at avoiding death


 No.906538

>>906520

> If it was completely untrue, you would just ignore it

If that were true trolling would not exist. Also, since people don't ignore people when they talk about God, does that prove he exists?


 No.906549

I'm currently rewatching part 4, did they ever explain why Okuyasu's brother refused to use The Hand to kill their father?

Was he being a good brother or just retarded?


 No.906608

So far Mista seems like the best candidate for main character in this part


 No.906613

File: 39f1b4ea5a25bbd⋯.png (144.31 KB, 471x537, 157:179, is this fed serious.png)

>>906549

You have to be a real piece of shit to commit patricide, and both brothers weren't capable of it so outsider help was required.


 No.906629

>>906549

Didn't Okuyasu say he didn't want to use The Hand on his father because he wasn't sure where the things ended up? He wants his father to be dead for certain, and theres no telling if he would still be alive in some purgatory afterwards.


 No.906668

>>906533

It seems like his Stand power is also somehow making it so when he's shot it doesn't hit anything vital. This is a pretty typical hero cliche, but Mista takes it to the fucking extreme.

>>906629

Pretty sure I remember the same kind of thing.

Reminds me of a Stephen King short story about a teleportation portal that's invented. The twist is that you have to be unconscious when you use it, because while the body teleports instantly, the mind experiences an "eternity" of transit time, enough to drive the person completely insane in that fraction of a second. It's mentioned that mobsters uses portals with no "destination" set to dispose of bodies, and one time some complete monster shoved a live person into one in the same fashion. The guy's defense at his trial was that because the person was warped off to "nowhere", they couldn't prove he was actually dead. Of course, this implied that the person was still ALIVE, stuck in the void for an eternity multiplied by an eternity. Needless to say, he got the death penalty...


 No.906682

File: c7e8f8733df4ab2⋯.webm (14.31 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, blinded by the concentrat….webm)

>>906491

>homosexuality actually makes you go blind in jojo universe


 No.906683

>>905389

>Because it seems to be a pretty solid running theme that Araki makes the heroes calm and cool and the baddies screaming lunatics

And speaking of going blind, remember how Josuke goes blind with rage when someone insults his hair.


 No.906742

>>906682

Good thing there aren't any actual homosexuals in the JoJo universe, then.

>>906683

He's certainly the least "cool" of the JoJos, but keep in mind that this is portrayed as a quirk, not a personality defect. It makes him unique, not bad. Unlike, say, Marty McFly in BtTF who suffers greatly as a result of his "trigger" (and has to overcome it), Josuke never gets in any real trouble for popping off at everyone who insults his hair.


 No.906794

>>906629

Probably winds up in the same place Abdul is currently.


 No.906796

>>906742

If I remember Part 4 correctly the blind rage even comes in handy to beat some enemy stands.


 No.906860

>>906225

>If Dio is a megalomaniac who gets off by causing pain, he's fucked in the head; this is not typical human behavior and actually results in harm to himself as well as others.

It leads to harm to others. It lets him live well beyond the lifespan of a normal person and experience pleasures others can't even imagine. To say he's harming himself is subjective at best. If harming others means you're insane, then, again, nobody should be in jail. They should all be not guilty by reason of insanity. Hell, real life criminals harm themselves much more than Dio, since they don't get superpowers out of it.

>>906520

>My point was that there is no such thing as an evil person, only evil actions

An evil person is a person who performs many evil actions. Why don't you just take the next step and say there aren't evil actions? Because we agree that the things Dio does are bad. But doing bad things does not just mean you're crazy. There's a difference between not caring about other people and having hallucinations or something. Your logic just means we should never be angry or upset at anybody for any actions. Anyone who commits a bad action that deliberately hurts others is just ill.


 No.906869

>>906860

>They should all be not guilty by reason of insanity

It's already been explained why this isn't true. Frankly, this has all completely broken down into just a disagreement about the fucking semantics of the word "insane". You're confusing the typical definition with the legal one, and they are not the same. Legal insanity means "incapable of telling the difference between right and wrong", as in somehow not knowing that murder is a bad thing. It's like a very young child that steps on a bug, and when asked why the would do that can only answer with a shrug, except it's an adult with human beings. Very few people are actually like that; almost all murderers are of the "know damn well that murder is wrong, but did it anyway because [reasons]" variety.

Thing is, most people don't commit murder, even if they have a good reason to. There's a threshold in their mind that takes a lot to breach before they will kill someone, and not just because of the legal consequences. That is normal. So I suppose it would be more correct to say that Dio is "abnormal" in his violent actions, which (again) were not all just a means to an end. But, again, that is still just arguing semantics.

Everything else is you just strawmanning my argument. I never claimed any of those things. I only said that Dio's mind isn't like normal people's minds, which fits a loose definition of "insane"; and that was just saying that he's no different from some of the other JoJo villains in being that way. Nothing else! If you want to extend that to reality, or draw other implications on whether that makes him responsible or his actions defensible or that he's ill or whatever the hell else, that's completely on YOU. Don't fucking put words in my mouth.


 No.906873

>>906869

>It's already been explained why this isn't true.

Why? Because most insanity pleas don't work? Exactly. Because doing something bad doesn't mean you're insane.

>I only said that Dio's mind isn't like normal people's minds

In that case all you're saying is that individual characters have individual personalities. No shit. Good job stating a truism. Go back and read the rest of your posts. You said a lot more than that.


 No.906913

File: 16d4c8627dab70b⋯.png (433.16 KB, 520x392, 65:49, jobber faggots.png)

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>>906742

>Good thing there aren't any actual homosexuals in the JoJo universe, then


 No.906924

>>906913

Giorno is literally HITLER for killing a gay.


 No.906934

>>906913

>one is cut into pieces while the other watches and kills himself (done by the other gay couple, if the oc in the anime is canon)

>the other two end up in the trash, literally

God I love Araki


 No.907025

File: a8e6b0571bf3b2b⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 47.67 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 54a59b89e58e5b39.jpg)

So when will get a new intro? Will we only get 2 this time around? Maybe will get a new one when Doppio comes in and a King Crimson ver. when he becomes Diavolo


 No.907029

>>907025

I just want a new ED. I can't stand this nigger music.


 No.907055

>>906873

>In that case all you're saying is that individual characters have individual personalities

That is stupidly reductionist. At this point, you're just being a contrarian bitch, and continue arguing over the semantics of the word "insane". This isn't even a debate anymore; it's just me making salient points and you stamping your foot and whining, "NU UH!!" I could say right now that the goddamn sky is blue and you'd contest it.

Go get a fucking hobby you retard.

>>907025

I'd be extremely surprised if there weren't at least one more OP so that KC can screw with it. Frankly, it's a bit odd that there hasn't been a new OP yet, but then again nothing has really happened that would warrant it. I don't exactly know how they decide when and why to do it. Stardust Crusaders had 48 episodes and two OPs and two EDs. DiU had only 39 episodes but had three OPs... and only one ED. For all we know we could have this one ED for the rest of the run, which would be shit because I don't like it either. Just doesn't have anything to do with the series.


 No.907060

>>907055

Part 4 had a lot of tone shifts throughout the series, Part 5 is pretty consistent in between Gangers -> Diavolo as a 2 arc.


 No.907061

>>906934

I remember there was a .gif of Araki opening up some gay fan doujin of his work at a trial, he looked genuinely disturbed by it.


 No.907088

>>907061

Who wouldn't disturbed with people inserting fetishes into a character they worked at?


 No.907089


 No.907114

>>907055

It is arguing over the definition, but your definition is wrong. Your previous post was just you basically admitting all your arguments were incorrect and trying to backpedal while pretending you never argued otherwise. You made no salient points. Just saying so doesn't make it so.


 No.907119

File: 293cf20dd734990⋯.gif (2.95 MB, 298x330, 149:165, 1277698412354.gif)

>>907061

I don't think anyone could ever be ready for the kinds of fetishes the yaoi and bara doujin circles bring to the table.


 No.907132

>>907119

I always thought it was him looking at the first chapter of the current arc at that time, and seeing something he had forgotten but was plot relevant.


 No.907196

>>905097

Ever heard of "pizzini"? Long story short, the mafia is so paranoid of the police, enemy gangs, even their own men, that they use middlemen and people who owe them protection money to plant scraps of paper containing bits of information related to their next hits or stashes, and said info is relayed via multiple pizzini to make sure that those hiding them won't snitch on each other.

Modern day camorristi are just a bunch of kids spray'n'praying but the old guard is meticulous.


 No.907287

>>907025

>episode file is corrupted and has random timeskips

One can only hope.


 No.907507

>>907114

>Your definition is wrong

>The legal definition of insanity is wrong

>He continues doing exactly what I said

You sure are a piece of work. Like a puppet with a pull-string. Keep it up; it entertains me.

>>907119

I find it a bit hard to believe that someone with imagination enough to come up with something like JoJo never managed to think up the craziest, most off-the-wall fetishes possible involving his characters. There's a difference between not liking something and denying that it's never crossed your mind even once. Most likely, there is an element of acting involved here, where his reaction would reasonably be a shrug "so what?" but he feels the need to act disgusted so he isn't interpreted as being supportive of it. After all, Japan is really quite homophobic, so it could torpedo his career if he doesn't have the "correct" reaction to seeing fag comics.


 No.907511

File: e56d2e26aed000b⋯.png (273.26 KB, 473x453, 473:453, shit taste.png)

>>907507

Nice projection, faggot. "He has imagination, so he can imagine the most degenerate things possible" into a fucking "the only reason he is not running degenerate manga is because he wants money". I want to insult you, but you probably going to enjoy it.




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