/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover

Can someone make a tier list of plastic backed diapers? I've been out of the loop for a while and recently settled on ATNs but I might get a case of something in the coming month.

>>10487

There cant be a tier list because it comes down to your

>needs

>body

>taste

Here my favourites:

Abena m4

Tena maxi

Super seni quatro

Crinklz

>>10455

>Abena m4

Didn't they drop the plastic line completely?

>Tena Maxi

Only if you're lucky enough to find the older version. the new ones are mediocre at best.

>>10509

>>Abena m4Didn't they drop the plastic line completely?

No, they are still produced: http://www.saveexpress.de/en/inkontinenz-einweg-disposable/windeln-pants-diapers/abena-slips-flex-pants/abri-slip-packungbag/4459/abri-form-m4-xplus-medium-slip-weiss-15.25.03.1106-folie-14er-packung

Have you ever saw diapers made of rubber? I cant find any pictures.

>>11413

those are called plastic pants you dorkasaurus

>>11413

their used outside the diaper to prevent leaks

>Molicare super plus going cloth backed

Fucking seriously? That was literally the last cloth backed "serious" (medical) diaper I could get. Is there even a single medical diaper with plastic left at this point? Is there ANY hope at all of them not completely fucking up the cloth backing, as have practically all others before them, considering that Molicares were the cheaper ones with plastic already?

Shit. I really can't understand how everyone switches to cloth only, and, at the same time, can not produce a single functionally usable cloth backed diaper.

>>11436

Abena still has a line, 24/7s are plastic, Comficare, the white rearz, snuggies, and bambinos…Yeah, that's about it. All the mainstream ones are cloth-backed now :<

>>11439

I don't mind cloth-backed, tbh. I'm sure they used to be terrible (lmao those old Tena Classics that were cloth backed with glue tapes and a plastic landing zone jesus christ what were they thinking), but now, they don't "sweat" unless they're so wet they'd leak anyway, and I find the tapes tend to be better because it's basically velcro. The cloth material tends to be stronger than plastic backing, too.

I guess if you're into the crinkle noises, it's a big thing to lose, but modern "non-woven cloth" or whatever it's called is pretty legit. Even the store brands and pull-ups I've tried were never bad because of cloth-ness, it was always something else (usually lack of elastics/guards endemic to cheaper brands)

If you're in Europe then herald the new ID Slip master race. I love them. They have a slightly firmer body than the tena slip which is interesting and the fit for me was fantastic. Just make sure you buy the PE backed ones. The price is much better than molicare too!

>>11441

Nah, I think cloth-like work perfectly fine as a diaper. Unless I'm in cloth and plastic pants though, where I expect diapers to be relatively quiet and ridiculously bulky, the crinkle is a MASSIVE thing to lose. That and the smooth plastic cover going to the woven, textured cloth-like cover. It makes for completely different tactile and auditory experiences. I like being noisy and having sounds coming from my pants that are almost unmistakable as anything other than a diaper.

I realize it's different for most and varies a lot based on how old you are and what your first diapers were, but losing out on the plastic coverings is a pretty big blow, qq

Are ATNs still plastic? I havent bought a case in 6 months but those were my go to diapers?

Before we begin I'll have you know my abu cushies with cloth like outside came in yesterday (I like them)

First THERE IS STILL PLASTIC UNDER THE CLOTH LIKE OUTSIDE. There would have to be otherwise it's would be just like the inside of the diaper witch has a cloth like layer (though it's really fine plastic thread I work in plastics so I should know.) It just acts as a refasten-able layer so you don't rip the plastic and make a hole (as I'm sure everyone here has done more then once.) Which is why most modern baby diapers now have "THE CLOTH LIKE OUTSIDE cause parents got sick and tired of ripping holes in their kids diapers causing it to become ruined. CVS refasten-able briefs area great example of this.

Secondly there are also breathable plastics that let in and out but not moisture, used a-lot in the agriculture sector for potato bags and corn feed invented cause burlap and paper hold water which causes things to get moldy

Now it's time for some knowledge

Ever see how diapers are made? The plastic lining come on big fucking rolls. Well someone figured it the hell out they you can mist a fine layer of glue over the plastic lining as it's coming down the line and attach the "cloth-like material" (CLM) which really it's more plastic just made into a thread; I think it's polyester or poly-nylon I can't remember. The CLM acts just like cotton and will stick to Velcro "hooks" albeit weakly cause it doesn't have the large "hoops" that the Velcro "hooks" need the form a proper hold but it's still there.

All this combined with breathable plastics can form a diaper that not only can be refastened more then once but allows to flow in and out helping skin PH. It's not going to "leak right through" (unless you piss with the force of a thousand suns.)

Now time for my opinion

Most bitching I hear about the cloth like outside I think comes from AB/DL'S that like the sound of crinkling plastic that let's everyone and their grandmother know your wearing a fucking diaper, to what end I don't know; embarrassment? just like the crinkle? or you feel as everyone should know/ask about your personal business. It's like you want to be asked when you are out in public crinkling about "are you wearing a (person leans in close and whispers) diaper?" just so you can:

1. Say yes and lie about medical condition that you don't have.(those with actual incontinence you won't be lying)

2. Act all offended cause someone asked a question about you when YOU WERE THE ONE CRINKLING ABOUT not trying to be discreet about it at all.

3. Lie saying no, giving you some satisfaction that you are "pulling a fast one" on a random stranger; yeah you rock man 1 out of the 7 billion bastards walking this planet took time to ask you something and you lied you didn't even know them and you lied. WHY?

4.And this is the real kicker, which if you are the crinkling about and you enjoy it you should shout YES I'M WEARING A DIAPER CAUSE IT GETS ME OFF.

I don't think you'll choose option cause you know they'll call the cops on you to try to have you committed for being a deviant don't believe try typing "man wearing diaper arrested" into your search engine of choice and watch what comes up.

I'm done haters welcome.

>>11458

Jesus christ, you mad over nothing. Personal opinion on what people do behind closed doors over a sound, of all things. Enhance your calm, faggot

>>11436

Abena still has them, but they are getting phased out slowly.

XP Medical has a plastic backed medical diaper line of their own but when last I tried it the quality was not that good.

There's a bunch of small, obscure medical supply companies out there that might still have plastic backed diapers, (The TotalDry line that you can get through the Bambino website is a good example) however, it's always hard to tell what's going on with medical supply companies. They usually don't actually have pictures of their product, just drawings, and don't usually provide information that we'd be interested in, like what the backing is, thickness, how the tapes are attached, etc.

In addition, there are the really premium medical diapers like Dry 24/7 and Comficare, but those are so expensive and exlcusive through the internet that they're essentially ABDL brands.

If you really want plastic backed, ABDL distributors are likely the way to go, just get plain white options like the Bambino Bianco.

>>11441

I've had modern cloth backed diapers, "sweat" on me before. I don't think the quality is evenly distributed. I still definitely prefer plastic.

>>11450

There is only one reason for it, and it is "discretion." The real users of medical diapers don't give a shit about anything that we give a shit about when it comes to diapers. They don't care about absorbency, they'll run the risk of wearing fucking napkins rather than something that can actually take a wetting. They don't care about tapes because they don't want tapes in the first place. Unless you're talking about completely bedridden patients who are unable to express their disgust, the only selling point for the average user of incontinence products is whether or not they can wear it without anyone noticing, and hopefully forgetting that they need diapers themselves. This is the only reason for the march towards cloth-backed. Medical diaper users will sacrifice all other points of functionality for the sake of discretion.

>>11453

They are as far as I know. They're probably next on the list though.

>>11458

Unless they're absolutely new to the ABDL community, I think most people know that there is still a plastic layer underneath the cloth but that doesn't mean that there's not still problems with it. I've had cloth-backed diapers "sweat" on me before, as was said before. In addition, I've had cloth diapers rip, same as with plastic diapers, so it's not like they're leaps and bounds ahead in terms of functionality.

However, I think you're completely off-base with the crinkling thing. Most ABDLs aren't wearing their diapers in public in order to get a rise out of people on the street. The reason we want really obvious, babyish diapers, is because we're doing this in private, and the whole experience is just for personal enjoyment anyway.

The sensory experience of wearing a diaper is kinda the whole reason we're doing this, and so there's no reason people shouldn't be able to enjoy it a certain way. Are you going to shit all over people who obsess over thickness too? Since that's something else that's impractical and obvious in public.

The thing that bugs me about companies going cloth-backed though, is that it just makes it feel less like an actual diaper. I realize that's a really subjective thing, probably based on the kind of diapers you wore as a child, but we're the only demographic of people that enjoys diapers for what they are. Huggies did some market research which showed that mothers most requested features for diapers was for them to resemble underwear or clothing rather than diapers, which is a big reason why they adopted cloth backed early and started stylizing them like children's underwear. In the incontinence market, no one wants to be buying this product in the first place, and the number one request Depends gets on their products isn't more absorbency, or better design, it's discretion, and products that resemble underwear.

I think eventually we'll get to the point where the only products you can get that actually resemble diapers, will be ABDL manufacturers, and if you're not interested in ABDL products, or turned off by the high prices associated with buying fetish wear, that might really suck for you.

So yeah, I think people are understandably pissed off about the whole cloth-backed thing.

>>11460

It's funny, but even if it weren't behind closed doors, noisy and bulky diapers are completely fine. So long as they're covered and not having attention drawn to them with super tight pants, letting pants sag to reveal them, or wearing conspicuous AB clothing, it's really not a big deal. 99.999999% of people are too lost in their own little worlds to notice an odd underwear outline or a random crinkle. The minority that do notice rarely, if ever, say anything.

Definitely biased as a current 24/7 wearer here, but in 15 years of off and on wearing as an adult I've never had a single person in public make a comment. Doesn't matter if I was in a super thin diaper, or doubled up with stuffers. People are either too oblivious to notice or genuinely just don't give a shit.

boink

>>11460

I forgot to mention that something else that bugs me is that since cloth-backed disposables have that cloth outer covering the plastic layer underneath it is incredibly thin. Although I don't think they tear more than regular diapers it's still a big drawback for the sensory experience since I like the idea of the diaper being really soft and cottony with a thick plastic outer shell.

Actually, from the diaper design thread a while back I think a lot of anons feel the same way.

>>11458

MOST ab/dls like plastic backed diapers because of the tactile sensation, and yes, the crinkle factor, because it's like the diapers they wore as kids, you fucking jackass. Diapers for us are a FETISH item, and I hope you would realize that the FEEL of a fetish item has a lot to do with why it's fetishized, If someone had a rubber/latex fetish, and all of the sudden all rubber/latex companies decided to add a "cloth like cover" to their product, it would piss a lot of people off, no?

Do you get it now, you stupid fuck?

>>12590

Nope, for me the problem is literally that cloth backed diaper do not fucking work. They fall apart (the cloth comes loose within half an hour) and fall off away from your body or, even worse, open up entirely and fall down your pant leg.

Cloth-backed diapers have literally lost their functionality. They are not fully functional diapers.

Unless someone actually implements a working cloth backed diaper, I request the manufacturers to go back to plastic. Their shitty cloth products are broken. It is not acceptable that they just ignore us and do not rectify their massive failures.

>>12597

The majority of people who buy heavier diapers are using for incontinence, right? I would assume they would want mostly the same things as us- absorbency over 'discretion' (having your diaper leak or sweat is not discrete.), nice texture, tapes that work. The only exception might be that they would prefer a quieter diaper.

The diaper companies must be out of touch with their customers.

>>12608

The majority of people who buy diapers for incontinence usually just have some light wetting or something similar during the day.

The people who buy the heavier medical diapers for incontinence are usually medical professionals who are caretakers for bedridden patients.

They would be the ones who are buying stuff like Dry 24/7 and ComfiCare.

The people who have total incontinence but who don't have caretakers would likely be very embarassed about their situation, and even though they'd be buying heavier absorbency stuff like Abena, they'd probably want to buy products as non-diaper like as possible, hence the cloth backing.

>>12597

This. I got some LilleFit Supreme Maxi briefs the other week, all excited because their plastic backed samples were so good.

The ones I ended up getting are "Breathable", and do exactly what you described; the tapes pop, the outer layer gets wet, they droop as the tapes sag, they're just awful at their job.

Depend manages to be better than a lot of brands now, including some premium ones, just by having plastic backing and not leaking right through the walls of the brief. It's ridiculous.