/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover

yeah im the same way

well the comparison being seen as bad comes from gays being severely oppressed for centuries. but to say "just because you are a little kinky doesn't make you oppressed" sounds a little ignorant. i guess a fair comparison is to say we are like asexuals. we very likely seem to be our own type of sexuality. and i think this not just applies to abdl people but other fetish people too.

>>11321

While I'm not only turned on by them, I would say I've had a fascination/attraction as long as I can remember and they do factor into most of my fantasies. I'm bi, and I do feel much the same that diapers is as much a part of my sexual desires as my actual sexuality is. It's actually this that leads me to believe the unpopular opinion that being gay isn't hardwired but is rather instilled in you psychologically at a very young age, this is because I find it impossible that diapers are such an interest because of purely biological and hormonal reasons, yet I have been attracted to them before I even knew anything about sex/jacking off. I figure it's the same with sexuality, something mainly psychological that is instilled in you from before you even realize or remember it, not saying it's a choice though as I sure didn't choose such a weird and embarrassing fetish, but I do think it's mostly not based in DNA.

tl;dr i think fetishes are formed in much the same way as sexuality, mostly involuntary conditioning before you can remember with a possible biological predisposition.

>>11321

Yeah, that is pretty close to how I feel.

I'm attracted to women (well, actually (fictional) young girls) but 99% of the time I can only really fap to fantasies involving diapers or other means of infantilisation.

I can't say that I find diapers attractive if they're worn by someone unattractive though. I wouldn't want to go out with a guy just because they have a diaper fetish.

>>11329

>being gay isn't hardwired but is rather instilled in you psychologically at a very young age

>I figure it's the same with sexuality, something mainly psychological that is instilled in you from before you even realize or remember it

You might be right, but it's a very complex topic. As far as I understand it, human sexual arousal is effectively just triggered by a fairly sophisticated pattern recognition neural network. When the neural network thinks it has found a match, you get aroused.

In a normal person, that network is wired to recognise healthy and fit mates of the opposite gender. The network doesn't "know" that it's matching healthy mates of the opposite gender - it's just looking for pattern elements such as bilateral symmetry, face-like features, various proportions, etc.

Sexualities and fetishes can be explained by abnormalities in this network. Small abnormalities would cause you to be attracted to people outside of the normal range of physical parameters for healthy mates. I think that is what causes homosexuality, bisexuality, pedophilia, granny fetishes, obesity fetishes, and various other appearance-related fetishes. These could all be easily explained by genetic abnormalities, since the structure of that pattern-recognition part of the brain must be governed largely by genetics.

For the more bizarre fetishes, particularly ones which focus on man-made objects, it's still possible for them to be caused by genetics. A random mutation could, by sheer chance, cause the network to respond to features which happen to coincide with those of a man-made object. What seems more likely is that there's some initial mutation or irregularity which causes the network to respond weakly to something far outside its normal parameters, then further exposure causes it to learn (just like any other part of the brain), strengthening the neural pathways corresponding to that stimulation. It's entirely possible that this kind of thing happens with homosexuality and other people-related sexual attractions too.

I would be quite surprised if fetishes and sexualities were entirely caused by non-genetic factors after birth, since people with the same fetish often seem to have very little else in common.

>>11331

I do think that there might be a biological component too. For example, people with a fetish for diapers might be predisposed to like warmth and moisture around their genitals, and combined with some psychology early on it develops into a fetish. Also, I do think the psychological part is very complex, too complex to understand at every level. Personally I'd guess it has something to do with what you are thinking of randomly when your brain is developing sexuality, so there really wouldn't have to be much in common. If you happened to be thinking casually of diapers at the right time and and in the right circumstance, it could develop into a fetish later in life. This is why I think even if it is psychological there's virtually no way to control someone's sexuality/kinks as you would have to somehow control their thoughts 24/7 (dreams count possibly) since the age of two. I do think it has some psychologcal factor, and I would be surprised if there wasn't one, but I'd also be surprised if there was no inborn traits that could make fetishes more likely.

>>11331

>For the more bizarre fetishes, particularly ones which focus on man-made objects, it's still possible for them to be caused by genetics. A random mutation could, by sheer chance, cause the network to respond to features which happen to coincide with those of a man-made object.

It's not possible, or better said, not possible with any feasibility that we would regard it as more of a posibility than a person giving birth to an orange.

>I would be quite surprised if fetishes and sexualities were entirely caused by non-genetic factors after birth, since people with the same fetish often seem to have very little else in common.

It's suprising how much they have in common. BDSM: childhood abuse, bullying. ABDL: autism, stunted development Bronies: autism Domination fetish: anger, grudges, hatred

>>11333

>Personally I'd guess it has something to do with what you are thinking of randomly when your brain is developing sexuality, so there really wouldn't have to be much in common.

Then why aren't there babyfood, sippy cub, baby seats and duplo block fetishes?

>>11333

>Personally I'd guess it has something to do with what you are thinking of randomly when your brain is developing sexuality

I think it works something like this, but maybe not something so simple as that. I've had a diaper fetish since my earliest memories, and recently I found out something new and interesting. I bought some baby powder, and I don't have any memories of experiences with baby powder, but when I first opened it up and smelled the stuff it was like I knew the smell. Kind of like walking into a freshly cleaned room and recognizing the smell as the same cleaner your mom used way back when. Same thing, I recognized the smell of the powder and it gave me an instaboner. So I don't doubt that somehow when my sexuality was developing it landed on diapers and diaper paraphernalia.

I find I jerk it a lot to this fetish, but I also jerk off to gay porn and traps ( I'm a huge faggot) however I didn't figure out I was gay till after high school and till then I would jerk to this fetish and assumed since it was all girls in them I liked girls. I can jerk off without anything to do with this, but I like it more, so fuck it. I'd cum just as hard to the idea of being dressed like a girl and spit roasted.

>>11345

now that i think about it everyone i know who is into bdsm or domination fits your descriptions, and as an abdl i'm definitely stunted developmentally (i feel like a child at 23, will probably never feel like a "real" adult with "real" adult responsibilities) and possibly autistic.

>>11345

Be careful about confusing the direction of causality. You should only be considering factors which occurred prior to the fetish. Saying that stunted development (a ridiculously broad term, by the way) causes ABDL fetishes is like saying that drowning causes people to fall off boats.

>>11345

>It's suprising how much they have in common. BDSM: childhood abuse, bullying. ABDL: autism, stunted development Bronies: autism Domination fetish: anger, grudges, hatred

I haven't found these generalizations to be true at all and I know persons into each of those things. I was severely bullied and I have the least interest in BDSM than any ABDL I've met. I also had a lot of anger and hatred from it but my interest in domination was never sexual.

But the biggest point is that anecdotal evidence is kind of pointless. Unless someone has a reputable study on the subject, it's somewhat pointless to argue about it.

>>11372

Actually, it's not, because who will ever deliver a study regarding fetishes as a sexuality or even mor specific, regarding ABDL? That's not gonna happen in the next 10-20 years AT LEAST.

Me and a friend discussed sexuality and fetishes a while ago, he's not into diapers, but alot into psychology. No expert though. But he still made an interesting point: our definition of sexuality doesn't fit our modern standards anymore. Why not abolish the whole devision into hetero-, bi-, homo-, a-, trans-, etc. and just say people are "sexual", in a way that everyone is into what they like?

None of us have chosen to like diapers or baby stuff, the same way as someone into latex or leather never chose to be into that. He just saw some shiny stuff someday in his life, maybe found some porn and it made click. There is literally no other reasonable explanation, why fetishes develop eventually.

Yes, autism/aspergers or developmental stunts can.. accelerate and influence the process, and I'm sure if some of us had no psychological disability, they wouldn't have the fetish, but regardless of these things, it doesn't explain the diapers.

From a scientific standpoint there are literally a shitton of reasons why we could be into this. Literally. Sexuality doesn't start at puberty but MUCH earlier, pretty much when you're born, so it could be anything ranging from stimulation of the genitals trough diapers, to mommy or daddy being very caregiving when we still were childs.

But just to clarify, literally anything could have caused this. We have no idea, and until sexual deviations get fully studied and understood, it could take another 50 years to a century.

The only thing that would be helpful, is to stop generalizing. I for myself have no psychological disability, even though my dad wanted to have me aspergers or something, so he could justify my weirdness when I was a kid.

I have normal social competences, get along with other people, have a decent amount of normie friends and I am nice and normal.

However, to this date, I can only cum to diapers or other weird fetishes. For me normal porn seems weird and when I sucked dick the first time (since I don't know what I am, I identify as bi with a huge tendency to boys) it felt really strange and not in a good way. I was fine with it, but just did it to satisfy my partner. He tried to give me a BJ an entire hour afterwards, but it didn't work at all.

Instead, I cum to diaper hentai, tentacle porn and very weird fantasies.

Where does this put me? No idea. I'm no autist and yet no normie with a kink. You tell me.

But what I know is, that sexuality is nothing predefined from birth. Instead it develops and there are several psychological models to back that up. You're not even born gay. You develop to be gay. Same for diapers, latex, bdsm, feet, whatever.

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>>11345

>Then why aren't there babyfood, sippy cub, baby seats and duplo block fetishes?

Diapers are more around the genitalia, fundamentally sexual. Also, the AB side could find these things sexual. In addition diapers are taboo, more associated with the sense of being a baby and thus more psychologically impactful.

>>11347

Yeah my explanation is far from a comprehensive theory. I'm saying that multiple of those experiences, had in the right time with the right mindset might combine in complex ways to produce a fetish. Saying that it just happens randomly when you think of something is oversimplifying it.