No.1169
Anyone else come to the dark side? I started five months ago, and my bladder has just about kicked the bucket in terms of control.
No.10954
>>10912
>I enjoy being treated like a toddler and he enjoys treating me like one.
Sounds a lot like me and my boyfriend.
I started a new job a couple months ago that lets me work from home, so I get to be padded pretty much 24/7. My boyfriend is at the office Monday - Thursday, but he gets padded on work nights and all day Friday - Sunday.
With the way our schedules work out I get the full-on toddler experience almost every week from Friday to Sunday. I've seen people say that it grows old after a while, but for us it's just gotten more fun with time.
In terms of incon stuff I've definitely noticed my bladder getting smaller. I've had a couple times over the last month where I realized I was wetting without any sort of warning. However, this has only happened at home, never out of the house. I usually wake up wet now, but I have been consistently wearing to bed for over a year. For messing I'd say I still have full control. It's gotten a lot easier to mess though.
I've found going 24/7 is a huge amount easier and way more fun when you have someone doing it with you.
No.10960
>>10912
You male or female?
I feel like I would need to be with a switch. A part of me is turned on from being a sub, but only with things I really want to do. (e.g. he tells me to piss myself or dress like a girl.) and I can't really get into the baby play thing. I just want someone to "force" me into doing things I want to do, but are scared to act out on alone.
On the other hand I feel too much dom talk would piss me off or turn me off, so I also like the idea of making someone do these things ( make him piss himself) so that's why I need a switch to meet my mine.
I should have said I'm gay, so I don't want us to both lose control of our butts. Would make butt sex a little more messy than I'd like; I think. not that it matters since I'm going to die alone
No.10966
>>10954
>I've seen people say that it grows old after a while, but for us it's just gotten more fun with time.
That's exactly what it's like here too. It's like doing the whole daddy/baby thing brings us so much more closer than we would be if we just tried to go about life as normal. Being a toddler at home just feels more natural, especially when it's encouraged and facilitated. Having someone else isn't technically necessary to being 24/7, obviously, but it definitely feels like the more natural, gratifying way to go about it.
I've had a few similar bladder oddities of natural wetting too, but not consistent enough for me to really call them anything other than anomalies just yet :3 Definitely jealous that you're bedwetting. I've worn to bed for years at a time but never reached that point. To be fair, I've never set that as an explicit goal either, so w/e.
>>10960
Male here, so also gay to clarify. And first off, you're not gonna lose control of you butt, dude :p Not unless you legitimately work at training bowel incontinence or you use a plug 24/7.
Past that, I understand the need for a switch. My partner's also a switch and it's pretty frustrating from my side of things being nearly 100% sub. Feels like I'm not able to meet his needs to the extent that he's able to meet mine, y'know? feelsbadman.png. We work it out in our own ways though.
If you don't mind a little advice anon, since it sounds like you're relatively inexperience with others irl, what you think you'd do right now, and what you're willing to do in a relationship with someone who you can truly open yourself up to, are completely different things. I used to be very much the same in that I had some very strict, complex ideals/limits to how I'd be willing to engage in D/S or AB play. I'd never dom for instance, I'd never want my partner to be in diapers, my daddy would need to be completely strict and uncaring, etc etc. The more experience I got and the more I opened up to my daddy, however, I began to realize that being flexible is ridiculously important. He needed to express his sub side sometimes and be diapered, or he'd want to try electro plugs when it wasn't something I was big on at the time. Just random kinky shit that normally wouldn't enter your mind.
What I'm getting at is, don't discount someone because they're not a switch(or pure dom/sub for that matter), or because they don't like messy stuff as much as you, or they're more into baby play when you're not. Closing off options because of some sort of preconceived notion of what you want, especially if you've never actually tried this stuff with someone else irl, is doing yourself a massive disservice. The broader the net, the more willing you are to compromise, the bigger the catch and all that stuff, ya dig?
Anyways, sorry for the rant anon. I'm one of those people that's reclusive as fuck irl but gets up in peoples' shit online :p Feel free to tell me to fuck off
No.10967
>>10954
>>10966
>Being a toddler at home just feels more natural, especially when it's encouraged and facilitated.
Yep, this is definitely true :3
>Definitely jealous that you're bedwetting.
Almost all of my ABDL friends have said the same thing. I feel pretty lucky to have achieved it rather early on. Also, nothing beats soggy morning cuddles with the boyfriend. 10/10 would definitely recommend.
No.10983
>>10966
>>10967
How do you manage bedwetting? I mean, diapers obviously, but do you use cloth diapers? Or lay on your back? As an occasional side-sleeper, I know all too well how bad leaks can be in bed with disposables, qq
No.10984
Hi Baby friends, I'm just checking in after being gone forever. I'm not 24/7/365 but I can go days or weeks at a time still wearing. I went for like a month but I decided to go messy and that turned me off of it for a week. But now I'm pack to being padded and comfier than ever!~
No.10990
>>10983
>How do you manage bedwetting?
I use disposables at night with no issues. I usually wear my thickest and with those I never leak, even sleeping on my side. I think my wetting at night is in small amounts, which lets the diaper have no issues with absorbing it. Also, we put a plastic sheet on the bed so even if there is a leak it wouldn't be too bad.
No.10991
>>10990
I rock the plastic sheet on my bed too. That added crinkle once they get a little worn/stiff is the shit :3 Crazy that you don't get any leaks that way. As long as it works though!
No.10992
>>10966
nah, I've never had a bf ;_; I was with a girl once and I learned how shut-in I really am.
No.10993
>>10992
you'll find someone eventually, try fetlife or other abdl personals, there are ton of lonely people in this community who are great people but just are lonely because its hard to find a kink partner
No.10994
>>10993
Sadly I'm way too busy these days to do much of anything I want. By a shut-in I mean that I'm very cold, never talking about my problems and have a hard time dealing with other peoples problems.
No.10997
>>10994
For what it's worth, I'm the same and found someone. I mean, all the coldness and reclusiveness has melted a bit, but it's still there. Foreveralone at heart, I guess. Honestly, just participate in communities online (and/or irl if you feel like it) and you'll find someone eventually. Either that or work like mad on your body (if you're not already attractive) and post pictures/vids. Sounds shallow for sure, but you'd be surprised how many fish you can catch that way. I actually found my partner through posting videos up on xtube lol.
No.11023
I just got my wisdom teeth out a day ago, and I have to say that wearing 24/7 has been amazing. I am alreayd nearly incontinent and I knew I would need to wear because of the whole "no solid food", but I'm really enjoying this. I even got some baggy sweatpants so I can wear around my folks ( am neet ) and they have doone their job well
No.11150
>>10868
i go through so many stuffers it's insane, it's like i'm always changing them every time i pee. ;_;
have been getting by with pullups + stuffer because i'm not very big. might have to go get the actual adult diapers or order online or something.
it has been pretty fun though, even if a little time consuming sometimes.
it's also amazing how quick you get over pooping your pants. the first couple of times are really gross but it gets routine pretty quickly.
no sign of losing any control though, but eh
No.11156
>>11150
You're trying to go 24/7 and you're using…Pullups? Goodness you poor thing, of course you're having to change all the time! Get yourself some proper diapers! If your frame really is that small, Abena has the S4 which should do plenty well for you, and will certainly hold more than one wetting. It'll all be a lot less time consuming if you actually get yourself the proper materials.
…sorry, that probably sounded a bit harsh. You just ought to do everything you can to make this easy, if you're really in for the long haul. I don't think you ever mentioned, is there a particular reason why you wanted to go 24/7? Are you planning to become fully incon, or are you holding back and doing things like messing yourself only at home?
You're a bit of a mystery Anon. Why you doin' whatchu doin'?
No.11158
I have just ordered a substantial number of cloth diapers, I have a good supply of disposable diapers. I am going to go 24/7 until at least January 1st and see how much control I can lose in that time using standard training and the Baby-Pants and/or Mindmaster hypnosis files.
No.11159
I have tried, but I can't wet at night at all, I've tried hypnosis, using water in a bowl, sleeping pills to sleep heavier, but I always wake up with pain from holding it in.
I can wet standing and sitting no problem, laying down is the only one I can't do.
No.11161
I'm curious, how many here are in diapers 24/7 for legitimate incontinence? The subject fascinates me, and I have to wonder how many started off as incontinent and joined the ABDL community, either to fit in or because they started enjoying it. At the same time, I'm sure there are just as many who avoid the ABDL community because they don't enjoy not having a choice. It's a little selfish, but sometimes I wish I'd meet an incontinent girl
No.11169
>>11161
Incontinent girl here. 24/7 ever since a medical issue a few years ago. I fell pretty naturally into the whole ABDL thing, since I already had some interests that could be considered ageplay (although I only new about ageplay after I became incontinent).
It's pretty great that there's guys out there that are super enthusiastic about having a girlfriend who needs diapers 24/7. Having a boyfriend who wants to change my diapers for me would be pretty awesome.
No.11172
>>11169
It is now mandatory to give a location.
No.11174
>>11169
Have you ever gotten into a relationship with someone since you became incontinent that wasn't into the fetish? Or for that matter, how do most people react when they find out (for whatever reason?)
And yeah, you'll find no shortage of enthusiasm in places like this. I'd probably be grinning like an idiot too if I ever met a neat person who just happened to be incon.
No.11176
>>11172
Toronto, where the traffic is terrible and the girls are crinkly.
>>11174
>Have you ever gotten into a relationship with someone since you became incontinent that wasn't into the fetish?
Not really, but kind of. I dated a guy with a rather major pee fetish, but I think that still counts as being in the realm of ABDL stuff.
I'm still in university at the moment, so a lot of guys my age aren't really able to see past me wetting myself all the time (I wet in small amounts a couple times an hour). Honestly though, I'd just rather date a guy that loves having a crinkly padded girlfriend. At this point I'm more interested in a guy who'll treat me like a toddler than a guy who'll want a "normal" relationship. If they aren't into diapers they'll just see them as a gross medical thing, as opposed to something normal and fun.
>Or for that matter, how do most people react when they find out (for whatever reason?)
I become incontinent in the summer after high school. I'm so happy it didn't happen earlier. I can imagine it being consistently horrible if I was padded back then.
My best friends were and still are super supportive of it. With them it's pretty much the same as it's been since we were kids, except a bit crinklier. They know about the ABDL stuff, but they just think it's cute. They have their kinks and I have mine, and we're all cool with each other about it.
The guys I've talked to on tinder that I've told have pretty consistently not been interested once they knew I wear diapers. It doesn't really bother me though; if they aren't interested then they aren't interested.
When I tell newer people about it they are cool with it 99% of the time. It's just a medical thing from their perspective.
>I'd probably be grinning like an idiot too if I ever met a neat person who just happened to be incon.
I really wish more guys were into diapers. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of guys who are into them, but the best way to find them is online. I wish I could meet a guy at school and just have him be totally pumped to change me. Really, the best thing about being in a relationship is that I no longer have to change myself. :3
No.11178
>>11176
Sounds like you've got quite the handle on things! I'd probably swipe right in a hot second for that kind of confidence if I weren't 1000 miles away. You made yourself sound pretty darn interesting in those three short paragraphs.
Do you ever cast out online just for people to talk to by chance? Trying to meet new people post-college blows, lemme tell ya.
No.11179
>>11178
>Do you ever cast out online just for people to talk to by chance?
No sorry, never really thought about it.
>I'd probably swipe right in a hot second for that kind of confidence if I weren't 1000 miles away.
Aww thanks :P
I think the thing that scares a lot of guys off on tinder is the realization that if we ever have sex there is a quite high chance that I'd pee during it.
ABDL guys are great since they are totally cool with "gross" things. Some of my friends have dating people that have flipped out over a fart or something like that. Of the couple ABDL guys I've dated none of them have ever complained about a crinkly fart. Some guys want a girl who spends hours on her makeup and wears uncomfortable clothes. ABDL guys are happy with me in pigtails and my Barney skirtalls.
No.11180
>>11179
Anyone expecting sex to be clean in any sense is probably in for some big surprises. Gotta be able to laugh when things go 'wrong.'
>skirtalls
Well, I've learned a new word today. I don't think I've ever seen someone wearing something like that, but now I really want to.
No.11182
>>11180
>Anyone expecting sex to be clean in any sense is probably in for some big surprises. Gotta be able to laugh when things go 'wrong.'
I know, right? A few months after I became incon I had a friend have her boyfriend break up with her because she farted while he was eating her out. For months I was sure I'd never have a boyfriend because who'd want to be with a girl whose bladder empties itself at the drop of a hat. I thought "well, I'm a tiny girl who instead of learning how to do my makeup spent my teenage years watching Dragon Ball Z with my friends and playing Magic. Plus I wear diapers 24/7 and only have B cups. Yep, never getting a boyfriend." Then I found ABDL stuff and I was super happy. People whose favourite thing is watching cartoons and wearing diapers, sign me up!
It's weird how some younger guys have no tolerance for anything remotely gross coming from girls. Yeah, we're pretty gross, sorry, but it's hard to keep a fleshy crevice up to your standards of "not gross".
>I don't think I've ever seen someone wearing something like that, but now I really want to.
It's just like overalls but with a skirt instead of pants on the bottom. Super exposed diaper makes for ultra easy changes.
No.11184
>>11182
Dragon Ball and magic? Your fucking awesome even through I need to learn how play magic someday ><
No.11185
>>11182
Jesus christ woman, you're reading down a laundry list of amazingness. You're gonna make some young Canadian dude deliriously happy someday. Best of luck to you in your diapered dating endevours, as enviable as they are.
No.11186
>>11182
Who are you and where can I find a copy of you?
:P
No.11187
>>11182
>>11179
>>11176
Guy who posted the original question here, see, this is the kind of stuff I find fascinating. Especially that you found out about abdl stuff AFTER it happened.
>At this point I'm more interested in a guy who'll treat me like a toddler than a guy who'll want a "normal" relationship
I'm curious, the way you say that, is it that you're into AB stuff, or that you are just willing to settle? I kind of had this preconceived notion that incontinent people would be resentful of the whole abdl thing.
>best friends are supportive of it
>AND know about the abdl thing
Man, that must be so relieving, no pun intended. I don't know about others in particular, but I imagine there are a fair number who, like me, are super paranoid about people finding out.
To be honest I have to agree with these other guys, the fact that you're not taken is shocking.
It's probably a little impolite of me to say, but if you want to chat some more, my skype is tarantulacow. That's an open invite for anyone else too, I'm always down to chat with more folks
No.11188
>>11187
I guess I forgot to mention, if you have any questions for a mainly DL guy, ask away, it's only fair
No.11189
>>11184
>Dragon Ball and magic? Your fucking awesome even through I need to learn how play magic someday ><
Word of warning about magic. You think it's fun and games at first but then you delve into a quagmire of cardboard addiction. I think with the CAD/USD rate right now my Legacy deck is ~$2,000. It sucks your wallet dry. Fun as fuck though.
And yes, Dragon Ball is my fav. Cottages + Alcohol + Dragon Ball DVDs = the best part of my summer.
>>11185
>You're gonna make some young Canadian dude deliriously happy someday.
That's the plan ;P
>>11186
>Who are you and where can I find a copy of you?
Just your average incon university student. We're around, you just got to look.
>>11187
I mean, I knew it was a thing, but never really looked into it all or knew anything besides "some people like diapers".
For me it's definitely not settling. I've always been the type to enjoy being taken care of and whatnot. Plus I'd rather have a closet full of cute clothes than a closet full of stuff to wear to a club or something like that. I fell into the toddler role really really easily.
I guess I can't really get paranoid about it. I'm going to be wearing diapers no matter what, so people close to me might as well know about it. And for them knowing about ABDL stuff I know about all their kinks, so it makes sense that they know mine.
To be honest I'm not too into the whole skype/kik thing. I get the appeal but it's not for me. If I'm going to be skyping someone at 2am it's going to be my friends while we play CSGO comp.
>>11188
Yeah, I got a question: If you're mainly DL would you have an issue with a partner who is mainly AB?
As for those asking why I'm currently single given the high demand and low supply of diapered girls, the reason is that my last boyfriend had to go back to school (he goes to school in another city) at the end of summer. Since then I've not really had the time to meet someone new. Also, it seems like some ABDL guys don't realize that there isn't really an "off" button for me. I can't just go without padding if we're going to be around certain people. With me it's either a crinkly crotch or a wet crotch. So I guess some of the people that think they want a 24/7 GF don't really realize what 24/7 entails.
No.11190
>>11189
Ah, Canadian I see.
Such a shame that.
Australian here.
No.11191
>>11189
>Would you have an issue with an AB partner?
Not really, but it'll depend on the person, ya know? I was never really into that side until recently I met a little over skype, and we've had a blast doing the daddy/little thing. It has an appeal to me for sure, but it' separate from DL stuff, for me it's about a cute, vulnerable little I can take care of. Paternal instincts I guess.
>abdl guys who get turned off when they realize what 24/7 entails
That surprises me actually, I would have thought it would be the other way around, that too many guys would be the ones without an off switch and not know when it was appropriate and when to quit.
Here's a question back at you in the spirit of conversation, how would you feel about a guy who wore diapers around you?
No.11192
>>11189
Yea I know lol. I just had a co worker spend about 100 dollar on magic card last week and any other anime you like beside dragon ball?
No.11193
>>11191
>That surprises me actually, I would have thought it would be the other way around, that too many guys would be the ones without an off switch and not know when it was appropriate and when to quit.
I think it might just be the guys for whom diapers aren't their main kink. The guys who've been into diapers for a long time are usually game for endless crinkly fun.
>How would you feel about a guy who wore diapers around you?
I'd prefer it to a guy who didn't wear diapers, honestly. Double the padding, double the fun, right? There's so many advantages to both people wearing diapers. Diaper on diaper cuddling is the best. Plus mutual diaper changes are always fun and intimate. Also if you're with someone who also wears diapers you can do stuff like "Alright, no potty for 3 days!" which is fun.
>>11192
Not that bad, really. Just last week I bought a $80 card. I have around 20 or so cards in my collection worth more than $100, with ~4 being over $300.
Uh, I don't think I can list all of them before hitting a character limit of some sort. I'm into tons of anime though. Me and my friends pick random animes and watch them all the time when we aren't playing whatever game we are playing at the time. Some favourites would be: Gantz, DBZ, Xam'd, Gurren Lagann, Monster, and a ton more.
No.11194
>>11193
You're too perfect a combination. I'm either trapped in some kind of matrix-esque simulation, or I'm in the middle of having a fatal stroke
>Xam'd
Excellent taste. Ever watched Kaiba? It will destroy your soul.
No.11195
No.11198
>>11156
the reason is just that it's something i've been interested in ever since i was a kid. i also think i just like how it makes you feel secure and stuff. i do plan to be fully incontinent, but i'm really sure that hypnosis and the like is rubbish. i did read that 12 month guide though which was really interesting and surprisingly scientific. so yeah i've been following that, it's been really healthy diet wise because i generally don't eat enough.
lucky all my work is online and potentially infinite so i can stick around home, and you can do groceries online here now. i'm kind of a recluse so this really does work out fine for me.
finally i just enjoy that feeling of losing control even though at times it's probably going to be just a hassle. that's a big thing.
you're right though i got proper diapers now and it helps a lot.
No.11207
So I've been going since June now but I still use the bathroom for pooping. I don't mind messing but its too much of a hassle to clean up for daily stuff. I'm aiming for urinary incon but I think it's getting slowed down by using the can for pooping. I've wet the bed a few times as far as I can tell but most nights my bladder clamps down until the morning. I've got a desk job so wearing to work isn't an issue but I recently moved to a new building and the nearest wheelchair bathroom is 2 floors down beside the reception. Been trying to get used to changing while standing up as an alternative.
Staying in that "open faucet" mode is really hard unless I'm 100% relaxed, which is usually when I'm in the zone working on something else. Even when hanging out with my abdl friends I get a bad case of pee shy. I have to stop, close my eyes and focus on relaxing so I can avoid flooding.
No.11208
>>11182
>It's weird how some younger guys have no tolerance for anything remotely gross coming from girls. Yeah, we're pretty gross, sorry, but it's hard to keep a fleshy crevice up to your standards of "not gross".
In some ways my gf is thankful we're into diapers now due to the likely event she'll have incontinence issues as it runs in her family (or something to that effect as she explained).
No.11211
>>11182
Please, if you ever in Ohio you let me know immediately.
No.11225
>>10910
>with a glass of powdered fiber set in front of me
any special brand recommendations?
No.11226
>>11194
>You're too perfect a combination. I'm either trapped in some kind of matrix-esque simulation, or I'm in the middle of having a fatal stroke
Aww thanks :P
>Ever watched Kaiba? It will destroy your soul.
Never heard of it, will have to look it up.
>>11211
>Please, if you ever in Ohio you let me know immediately.
Will do.
No.11227
>>11225
We just use metamucil. I've had okay results with citrucel in the past too. A couple tbsps in a glass per day usually makes for a fairly full diaper each morning. Plus, after a few days of that, if you ramp it up to 4 or 6 tbsps per day means all bets are off lol. Mega urgency and multiple messes per day. Definitely worth a try if you're into having full pamps.
No.11229
>>11226
Hey, you don't have to answer this if it's too personal, but have you ever used swim diapers? Or cloth for that matter? I'm curious how well they work and what they're like
No.11230
>>11227
thanks been looking for some thing to help me not necessarily loose bowel control but having them be more occurring, sudden and uncontrollable during the day would be a major plus
No.11231
>>11229
No worries, no question is really too personal at this point.
I've never really used swim diapers. I'm able to control my bowels if need be so I can just wear a normal bathing suit.
I don't use cloth. I've tried them and I find disposable better in pretty much every way. I do mess when I'm padded and that's not really something you can regularly do in cloth diapers. They're good if you don't expect any large amount of absorbency. They can be really thick but I much prefer a disposable diaper.
No.11235
>>11231
Actually I was wondering that, you did mention you had urinary incontinence, but didn't mention anything else. What's the deal on that? It just became more convenient to use them for both regardless? Are there times you don't wear?
No.11246
>>11235
>Actually I was wondering that, you did mention you had urinary incontinence, but didn't mention anything else. What's the deal on that?
The deal on what? Like, what the cause was or do you mean the specifics of my incontinence?
The incontinence was caused by a post-surgery infection that led to a bit of nerve damage. The only lasting issue there is that, for all intents and purposes, I'm completely incontinent for urinary stuff. The best theory that the doctors had is that the muscles keeping my urethra shut are kept open constantly which lets the urine flow right out. There's solutions out there but I had been incon for around a year by the time they were suggesting tests and procedures and whatever else. At that point I had accepted being incontinent and I didn't really want to risk having another complication from some procedure.
As for the specifics of my incontinence it's pretty simple. I just pee without any feeling or warning. Whenever there's a bit of urine built up it just gets released. The benefit of that is most diapers hold up really well to lots of small wettings.
My bowels are totally fine, so there's no issues with incontinence there.
>It just became more convenient to use them for both regardless?
Yeah, definitely. I don't get bothered by messing, so it's just easier to use my diapers for both. The majority of diapers I wear are plastic-backed and the tapes would get messed up if I took the diaper off so I could poop in a toilet. Plus it sucks trying to change out of one diaper, use the toilet, and change into a new one in a toilet stall.
>Are there times you don't wear?
Sometimes. Every day or two I might go without anything on below my waist for 15-30 mins so I can air out down there. Really helps to prevent diaper rash.
I don't wear when swimming/showering obviously. Other than those situations where being padded would be really impractical or when I'm airing out I'd say I'm padded 99% of the time. For example, at school and when I'm out of the house I'm always diapered.
No.11254
>>11246
>caused by a surgical complication
Man, you must have been pissed.
Rudely making puns out of terrible experiences aside, you seem to have adapted pretty well. What type of diapers do you typically wear? And do you ever buy the exotic "play" diapers like bambinos and such?
No.11255
>>11254
CARLOS, GODVERDOMME!
No.11259
>>11254
>Man, you must have been pissed.
At first, yeah. If it was a fuck-up during surgery or something like that I would probably have been a lot more pissed, but since it was an infection that did it I didn't really have anyone to blame.
About a year after becoming incontinent I become kinda pissed when I realized that I can't ever wear panties again. I like cute underwear, but oh well what can you do?
>Rudely making puns out of terrible experiences aside, you seem to have adapted pretty well.
First off, the jokes are welcomed. One of the best things for helping me come to terms with it was my friends making fun of me for it. It wasn't mean at all; we make fun of each other for everything. It sort of made it normal and not a big deal, which was a big help.
I've gotten totally used to diapers and changing myself, yeah. For about a month after becoming incontinent the best guess of the doctors was that the incontinence would go away once I was off the post-surgery painkillers. When that didn't pan out they referred me to a specialist and a nurse who specialized in helping people find ways to deal with their incontinence, but there was a five month wait time for the doctor and around a two month wait for the incontinence nurse. During that time I got used to wearing diapers and it became normal for me. The incontinence nurse suggested a catheter and a bag to collect my pee. I hated the catheter and after about a week with it I switched back to diapers. When I eventually saw the doctor he said there isn't really anything that could be done other than some complicated procedures to try to give me a way to hold my pee in, and it wasn't guaranteed to work. I didn't want to risk another surgical complication so I told him I'd think about it for a while.
Around a year later (during my second year of university) I just told the doctor that I'll just stick with incontinence. That may seem weird, but the type of infection I got was the type that could've paralyzed me if it had gotten somewhat worse. Permanent incontinence is way better than potentially being in a wheelchair.
>What type of diapers do you typically wear?
My main diapers are Abena M4s. They're kinda big on me since I'm 5'1", but I think they are perfect. Being plastic-backed is a massive plus for me since they keep the smell contained really well. I'm way past any sense of embarrassment for being incontinent, so wearing a big, bulky, crinkly diaper in public doesn't bother me. I'd rather wear a big ol' crinkly diaper and feel 100% protected than wear a thin little diaper that might leak after two hours. Plus M4s are super comfy, which I love. I also have S4s which are helpful sometimes. I can only ever find them in cloth-covered so they suck at holding in smell. But if I'm at home then they are good if the house is hot and I need something that lets the heat out better. If I'm drinking I pee a huge amount so I'll sometimes double up with a S4 and a M4 on top of it. It's really thick, but that combination has never once leaked on me.
I have others like 24/7 & Molicares which I use sometimes, but 90% of time I'm in Abenas.
>And do you ever buy the exotic "play" diapers like bambinos and such?
I divide those kinds of diapers into two groups: play diapers and ABDL diapers. The play diapers in my mind aren't too functional, but look good. The ABDL diapers are functional and they look good.
I've tried Bambinos and I like them. I like how crinkly they are. The patterns aren't too cute though.
Snuggies (I think they are Tykables now?) are amazing. When Canada shipping opened up I ordered 40 Overnights and they are awesome. Super cute and hold a lot. I heard of issues with the tapes but I've had no problems with them. Once I run out of them I might order a case or two.
No.11261
>>11259
Yeah, I can totally understand not wanting a catheter. Maybe for the wheelchair bound, where a diaper isn't quite as functional, and you don't have the bag banging against you, but it just seems way too uncomfortable a solution. I can see maybe if you were wheelchair bound, as the diaper wouldn't work quite as well, and you wouldn't have the bag banging against your leg as you walked, but it's not really much more dignified than a diaper, at least not enough to compensate for the discomfort. I've actually used a catheter before, and my god did it suck. I can't believe you lasted a whole week with it!
And yeah, it doesn't seem that weird. Maybe if they had guarantees to help, but from the sounds of it they barely seemed to know what was wrong in the first place, and the solution sounds kind of sketchy. I'd be pretty bitter by then
>M4's
I actually rather love those, the design makes them seem more modern and functional. I actually like the design a bit more than most of the other more playful abdl diapers, because it's not just mat white with a simplistic design on the front panel.
You double them up? Do you treat the inner one somehow? Punch holes or anything?
>snuggies
Mah nigga, those things are fantastic. I actually rather liked the tapes; as long as you can fit them onto the plastic front panel they come off without ruining their stick and can be refastened pretty well. The design is great too, again because it's not just a mat white diaper or even just a cutout pattern. The sides are adorable, and the fact that they actually did the fade when wet thing is crazy. I just ran out of them and I'm definitely considering getting more. Funny enough, I kept the bag, because it has the original snuggies logo on it, and I thought it would be novel since it's getting rebranded. Like a silly, ABDL collectors item or something.
You've mentioned before a lot of the embarrassment of wearing is gone, for obvious reasons, but what about wearing abdl diapers like snuggies?
No.11262
>>11261
>I can't believe you lasted a whole week with it!
Neither can I really. It was really bad. I hated it so much. But I was encouraged by people to "work through the pain" because diapers are the worst possible outcome for some reason. I can't blame them since they just wanted what they thought was best for me. Honestly though, diapers are 10/10. It's like, yeah incontinence isn't exactly a cake-walk, but diapers make it 10000x better.
>And yeah, it doesn't seem that weird. Maybe if they had guarantees to help, but from the sounds of it they barely seemed to know what was wrong in the first place, and the solution sounds kind of sketchy. I'd be pretty bitter by then
Yeah, a lot of doctors/nurses see diapers as "giving up" in terms of incontinence. They seem to think that people should try every possible solution before they resort to the dreaded crinkly underwear. I'd rather have a puffy crinkly bum then have to deal with more medical crap.
>You double them up? Do you treat the inner one somehow? Punch holes or anything?
Yeah, I love doubling up diapers. Extra padding is super comfy. Plus it just feels cuter, if that makes sense. I usually just cut about 10-15 horizontal cuts into the inner diaper. I find the horizontal cuts to be better since they accomplish the goal of letting the fluid reach the outer diaper without letting all the innards to fall out and make the whole thing uncomfortable. I use an box-cutter to make the cuts. It's exclusively used to cut diapers so the blade never dulls.
>Mah nigga, those things are fantastic. I actually rather liked the tapes; as long as you can fit them onto the plastic front panel they come off without ruining their stick and can be refastened pretty well. The design is great too, again because it's not just a mat white diaper or even just a cutout pattern. The sides are adorable, and the fact that they actually did the fade when wet thing is crazy. I just ran out of them and I'm definitely considering getting more. Funny enough, I kept the bag, because it has the original snuggies logo on it, and I thought it would be novel since it's getting rebranded. Like a silly, ABDL collectors item or something.
I love snuggies so much! When I first become incon I wished the diapers were cuter since they all looked really boring and medical (with the exception of Abenas, which have a cool pattern on them). I remember wishing I could buy giant Pampers or something like that. When I first saw them I was super pumped and when the half-cases first released to Canada I ordered one immediately. I may be one of the only people to have my parents totally aware that I'm buying Snuggies. They saw them sitting on my dresser and all I had to say was "they're cute". I know some incon people don't like ABDL diapers but I think they are the fucking best. A group of people devoted to making the best and cutest diapers possible? Sign me up.
I still have a bag unopened. Maybe I'll hold onto them for dat collector's value. The bags on them are great. So many companies have such boring bags on their diapers.
>You've mentioned before a lot of the embarrassment of wearing is gone, for obvious reasons, but what about wearing abdl diapers like snuggies?
I'll wear Snuggies without any shame or embarassment. They're cute and they hold up as well as any diaper I've worn. 10/10 in my books. If someone asks why I'm wearing one I'll just say "Bitch, I'm incontinent and these are cute."
No.11269
>>11262
>They seem to think that people should try every possible solution before they resort to the dreaded crinkly underwear.
This is actually pretty fascinating, a perspective from someone with experience in it. I sympathize for doctors who are probably guilt ridden and want to try and fix things, but I've always kind of seen most doctors as having a sort of creepy set of morals, where they see living life with a tube sticking out of you as more acceptable. Being ABDL definitely skews it, but I'd probably pick diapers anyway, as opposed to something like a catheter or ostomy bag. I'm actually working on concept for a horror game based on those kind of themes, it's neat to hear another perspective with a similar experience.
>horizontal cuts
I can't believe I never thought of that before.
>Abenas, which have a cool pattern on them
I'm glad to hear this from other people, I rather like the abena pattern. It just makes the whole thing look more modern and…fashionable? I suppose? Like, most other medical diapers are split between two sides: You've got the plain white stuff like dry 24/7 which seem to suggest "no one is supposed to look at these anyway, it would be shameful to have any markings on it", or else you've got the stuff like depends that come in "medical green". You know the green I'm talking about. And that seems to suggest you belong in a hospital or something. As far as I can tell, other than the wetness strip for functionality, that stripe pattern doesn't really mean anything. It's just a logo like the nike checkmark
>the bags on them are great
I know! Most ABDL themed diaper companies really don't spend a lot of attention on little details, usually you just get something white. That may have to do with discreet shipping purposes, but still, that bag is adorable. That really seems to be the whole thing about snuggies, they just put in the extra detail that other companies don't, and produce an actual diaper, instead of just a thick sheet of padding with tapes on one side.
>They're cute
You know, it's probably really biased to say, but one would almost compare styled and patterned diapers like snuggies or even rearz to being able to wear different and fun styles of underwear again.
No.11270
>>11269
> I sympathize for doctors who are probably guilt ridden and want to try and fix things,
Yeah, me too. They don't seem to know when to accept that shit got fucked up. Does it suck that it happened? Yeah, kinda. Am I cool with it now? Yeah. If I'm happy with then I should be allowed to wear diapers to deal with my incontinence.
>>11269
>I'd probably pick diapers anyway, as opposed to something like a catheter or ostomy bag
Oh man, yes. Catheters sucked because they were uncomfortable. An Ostomy bag would just be not-fun at all. If I became fecally incontinent I'd just stick with my current diapered set-up. The idea of having a hold with a bag on it sounds 100x worse than wearing diapers did at first.
>>11269
>I can't believe I never thought of that before.
Took me a while to think of it. When you double up on diapers enough you learn a ton of tricks.
>>11269
> I'm actually working on concept for a horror game based on those kind of themes, it's neat to hear another perspective with a similar experience.
Sounds fun :P
>>11269
> It just makes the whole thing look more modern and…fashionable?
Yeah, I get what you mean. Plain white is just so boring. The Abena design is very minimalist and simple.
>>11269
>You know, it's probably really biased to say, but one would almost compare styled and patterned diapers like snuggies or even rearz to being able to wear different and fun styles of underwear again.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I like wearing cute underwear. And since diapers are now my underwear wearing cute ones is just as fun.
No.11271
>>11262
>I may be one of the only people to have my parents totally aware that I'm buying Snuggies. They saw them sitting on my dresser
Man, that sounds hilarious. You've mentioned your interactions with friends before, I can only imagine the well-intentioned teasing if they ever noticed cute patterns poking out the back of your jeans.
It's kind of ironic really and a little funny really. Despite being stuck with diapers, it sounds like you have a bit more freedom in being open about them. Where as generic old ABDL's are kind of limited BY that ability to choose, and become reclusive, myself included. "You don't need them so why would you willingly wear them" kind of thing. That said, I'm sure it also depends on the friends and family you surround yourself with. I can say even if I became incontinent tomorrow, I wouldn't trust most of my friends with the secret, and even my family only begrudgingly.
It's actually pretty inspiring knowing there are people out there who have a balanced life with diapers, while enjoying the diapers themselves.
No.11272
>>11269
>It just makes the whole thing look more modern and…fashionable?
I agree with this. I feel much better wearing things with modern-looking prints than I do with plain clinical pastel colors or babyish/sissy styling. I wish there were more diapers that came in decent-looking patterns instead of just a couple brands of shoddy pull-ups that try to look like old man underwear/granny panties and always fail.
If anything, I feel less ashamed and more outgoing with something like a LilleFit or Abena or even Depend (that two-tone with the elastics and actually decent fit because of the waistband is better than nothing) just because I feel that much more fashionable and not like a frumpy unwashed trauma centre patient or something. Though a lot of newer ABDL diapers do look pretty neat without going overboard with the babyish-ness, which I like. If only they weren't so expensive!Oh, and if only they had wetness indicators. That's the one complaint I have about most ABDL diapers.
>>11262
>Yeah, a lot of doctors/nurses see diapers as "giving up" in terms of incontinence.
I think it's more because of hygeine. A catheter bag is just as "lazy", but it also doesn't involve being in contact with your own piss/shit for hours at a time. It's also cheaper, better for the environment, etc. Diapers seem to be more of an emergency item, but also an obsolete one because of catheterization. That's just my conjecture, though.
No.11282
>>11271
>I can only imagine the well-intentioned teasing if they ever noticed cute patterns poking out the back of your jeans.
Oh they've totally noticed them multiple times. The first time was right after I got the Snuggies Overnights. I was at my friend's place and she thought they were actual baby diapers. All I really had to explain was that they're better than the vast majority of other adult diapers and that they're cute. According to her "They're adorable."
>>11271
>It sounds like you have a bit more freedom in being open about them. I'm sure it also depends on the friends and family you surround yourself with.
Yeah, totally. I'm pretty lucky that my group of friends doesn't really give two fucks if I wear diapers.
>>11271
>It's actually pretty inspiring knowing there are people out there who have a balanced life with diapers, while enjoying the diapers themselves.
I know what you mean. I've seen a good number of incon people who just kind of give up on things because they think that having to wear diapers somehow prevents them from doing things. In relative terms, having to wear diapers is pretty great when you consider how bad others have it from their medical problems. Crinkly underwear really isn't that bad at all once you're used to wearing them. Plus once you get past any sort of shame about it you can just wear stuff like M4s all the time and never have to worry about leaks. Some incon people are all like "what if they know I'm wearing a diaper!?" Honestly, who cares? People with broken arms don't try to wear thin flimsy casts to try to hide their broken arms, so why should I have to wear think flimsy diapers to hide my incontinence? Thick and crinkly is the best way to deal with my incontinence so that's what I wear.
Being able to enjoy ABDL stuff makes it so much better. I'm already the type of person who wears almost nothing but shirts with cartoons on them, so it's a pretty logical step for me to wear snap-crotch onesies with cartoons on them. I think if there wasn't a stigma attached to it a lot more people would enjoy toddlerish stuff. The shows are fun and the clothes are super cute.
>>11272
>shoddy pull-ups that try to look like old man underwear/granny panties and always fail.
Oh man, I hate those things so much. They look terrible and don't work, what's the point of them?
No.11284
>>11272
What diaper is that?
No.11286
>>11284
It's a French brand sold through a site called Diaper Minister.
They've already designed it and have prototypes but they're not available for regular sale yet.
Even when they do come out I don't know if I'll be able to get them in America.
No.11289
>>11282
>Oh man, I hate those things so much. They look terrible and don't work, what's the point of them?
I can understand things like Tena Chic and Depend Silhouette; they're intended for people with just minimal dribbling who might want to wear skinny jeans once in a while, but don't trust pads. Like those Always brand pull-ups, they're basically a high-end Always pad sewn into a pair of disposable underwear instead of stuck on to your normal ones.
But yeah, anything past that absorbency-wise isn't gonna fool anyone by having a stupid ugly pattern, and it just makes it harder to tell when it's wet. On top of just being ugly as sin and barely functional!
> I think if there wasn't a stigma attached to it a lot more people would enjoy toddlerish stuff.
Ehhh. I myself dress pretty conservatively, and only like stupid cute shit because it's so stupid-looking by contrast to 'normal' things. I don't think I'd appreciate cartoon owls on diapers as much if it didn't seem as silly.
No.11290
>>11272
>shoddy pullups
Oh yeah, screw those things. I got a sample pack of the boxer briefs once; it was basically a horrible pullup, with boxers made out of this awful, scratchy, easily torn fabric that doesn't stretch at all. I feel bad for anyone who genuinely tried them, because even if it managed not to leak, imagine wearing boxers made out of straw.
I wouldn't really call diapers "obsolete" in the face of catheters. They have a huge host of problems on their own: They're horribly uncomfortable and even more humiliating. They keep you cleaner at first but cause UTI's regularly even when kept clean. Ostomy bags are even worse, requiring surgery, and if you move too much and the bag comes loose, you have a poop water balloon flailing out of you.
Diapers are pretty bad for the environment, but cathers need to be replaced regularly too, if you're really worried about the environment there's cloth diapers
No.11291
>>11282
>The shows are fun and the clothes are cute
I've recently started seeing steven universe on youtube and it's fascinating. NO ONE MUST EVER KNOW.
No.11292
>>11291
Eh I watched steven universe as an adult, I watch stuff like sofia the first and sesame street as a little :/
No.11299
>>11292
I like Sofia the First but my gf hates the animation in it. Is there a show with more fluid animation that isn't MLP (which she holds in high regards)?
No.11303
>Be hypno'd for bedwetting when diapered
>Bedmess too for some reason
I guess I did want it to be like it was when I was a kid…
No.11317
>>11299
Season 2 has much better animation, other than that 80 and 90s kid shows have some solid animation.
No.11327
>>11299
You could check out star vs the forces of evil if you haven't already. I haven't seen too much of it, but it seems alright
No.11328
>>11303
How many times have you had those kinds of accidents so far? Looks like it's diapers every night from now on for more than one reason, just to be safe.
Actually, since you were bedwetting already, did you have much trouble with leaks?
For that matter, I'd like to hear >>11282 's opinion on that too, do you guys just force yourselves to sleep on your back, or is there some secret?
No.11330
>>11328
>>10910 here. I don't have accidents myself, but do sleep on my back so that I can wet or mess when I wake up in the night without fear of leaks. Sleeping on my side is a 50/50 as to whether or not I'll leak. I'd be greatly interested to hear other peoples' answers though. I fucking hate sleeping on my back.
No.11382
Took a week break from diapers due to family visiting. Soon as they left I got padded up asap. Feels so good to be protected and safe again. Sucks can affords the atn or tena diapers. These Walgreen's brand is okay but I'd like to be able to wet a few times…
No.11389
>>11328
>How many times have you had those kinds of accidents so far?
Messy? Just that time, was really knocked out, and I think I took NyQuil because of cold.
Wet? Pretty much whenever I'm diapered, and more than fairly dehydrated.
> Looks like it's diapers every night from now on for more than one reason, just to be safe.
I-I'm not too sure about that. It was probably just far reaching from hypnosis.
>Actually, since you were bedwetting already, did you have much trouble with leaks?
Well, as long as I don't do anything careless. I've worn inadequate diapers before, and well soaked (and sometimes messy) diapers to bed. I don't really care if leaks happen. Sometimes leaks wake me, and some don't. I wear Snuggies Overnights almost exclusively, so I can wet in any position really. Usually laying on my side I think, but sometimes back too. I sometimes can know wheat position I'm in. I was laying on my side when I messed. I think my mind might know to move in a different position when having a night-time accident.
No.11396
>>11211
Whereabouts in the buckeye state?
No.11404
>>11303
did you bedmess as a kid as well? I only remember that happening a few times as a kid, would love to hear any elaboration if you dont mind.
No.11408
>>11404
I wore pull ups to bed after potty training for bedwetting. Occasionally, I'd mess them.
No.11500
>>10910
Same poster here. Said I'd update when anything interesting happened. Something did and I wrote a journal entry about it for twitter and FL. I did the same with original post linked above when it was about a month old. Here's the copy + paste job. 2 parts cuz it's too fucking long apparently lol.
Longish post about my progress in diaper/unpotty training incoming. Figured I could use an update, especially given recent events.
So, last night I had an accident. To give some background, if any of you don't know, I'm typically in diapers 24/7. I have been for nearly 3 months this time around, and had been for years straight in the past. This isn't my first rodeo when it comes to wearing all the time, but this IS the first time I've done it while my partner has actively encouraged and facilitated it. Untraining isn't a main objective for us or anything. I just love being in diapers and daddy (my fiancé) loves keeping me in them, teasing me about them, changing me, and generally treating me like a toddler. I've always been curious about reversing my potty training and have come to terms with wearing all the time possibly slowly putting that into practice, at the least for my bladder continence. In years gone by of wearing all the time I've never felt like there's been any issues.
Last night changed that. I was airing out in undies and pants for the night, due to having an ingrown hair on my butt (I'm usually way better about shaving >.<) that was causing some pain. Daddy and I were outside smoking and talking when I felt the need to pee and, just like I normally would, I immediately let go. I emptied maybe half my bladder before I realized my pants were getting wet and I wasn't getting the warm fuzzy feeling I normally do when I'm wetting a diaper, at which point I stopped and said to myself out loud, "No, don't do that!" Daddy laughed when I explained why I'd said it, more at what I said than what I actually did, but I was just stunned the whole time. I'd just wet my pants. On accident. My brain gave me no warning whatsoever before just saying, "Ok, time to pee. Let's go!"
Now, naturally, being in a relationship where my role is close to that of a toddler's and I'm typically kept in diapers, this was hot as fuck in a roleplaying aspect. We got to go through the whole gamut of daddy comforting me, cleaning me up, and getting me back in pampers, then me being pouty and fussy about being treated like a baby again after just one accident, and for once it all seemed genuine. I actually felt like a little boy who had blown his one chance at wearing big boy undies (which I suppose I did) and who really did need diapers like a baby. And geeze. Nothing gets you into that AB/little headspace like that.
But in my head I knew the real reason. I'd been in diapers for so long and grown so accustomed to using them, that my body had learned that when I'm in a comfortable place it's okay to simply let go and wet myself. I add in those conditions as I highly doubt this sort of thing would happen while out and about, or in an uncomfortable environment. In fact, not even three days ago, my mother (biological :p) was visiting and I wore undies the first day she was over. No accidents and no problems aside from needing to go pee every 30 minutes, both at home and out in public. When I'm in an uncomfortable or unfamiliar place it's more difficult for me to use my diapers, requiring some degree of concentration instead of just letting go, whereas when home alone or with daddy it's no problem at all.
And that's the first step in untraining, I think. The past years of wear were just me learning to wet in any position and learning my way around living a diapered life, which is perhaps the lion's share of the work that needs to be done. This particular step was just one accident, one that may not happen again if given the chance (which I doubt I'd get in a long time anyways after last night), but it shows that all the conditioning has started to influence how I instinctively think of relieving myself. That so long as I'm not feeling anxious or tense, the urge to urinate is met with a response of immediately relaxing my sphincter. The next obvious step, I suppose, is getting more comfortable with doing it regardless of where I am or what state my diaper's in. Like with this first step however, I don't think it's something I can consciously influence, aside from simply trying my best to release when I feel the urge. Not an easy task, but one that definitely is helped by all the encouragement and reinforcement I receive from daddy, as well as the satisfaction I derive from using my pampers.
No.11501
>>11500
Question is, do I want to continue down this path? I'm sure I could make an effort to be more aware of when I need to go and hold it for a time, so as to both strengthen my bladder back up and focus on only releasing when I WANT to. Or I could keep wandering down this rabbit hole and see how deep it goes. The latter is definitely the easier and more appealing option at this point…and honestly, there's not many negatives that come along with it.
The worst I can think of is the potential inconvenience on long/international trips, what with packing enough diapers (extra luggage) and hoping that wherever you're going won't be too warm to wear comfortably. Even then it's just a convenience thing. This past visit with my mother convinced me that there's no issue whatsoever with wearing around family so long as I'm inconspicuous (Plastic pants and a plain onesie to deaden noise and prevent peekage, regular changes to prevent smells, properly fitting pants to avoid any noticeable outline. Same getup I use for work). I'm in a bit of a unique position there, though, as my parents have known about my interest in diapers since I was 12 or so and have come to accept it over the years as more of a quirk than anything to be worried or ashamed of me for. I've proven that I can work while diapered over the course of two years at a single job, not going a single day without, and never receiving any comments. I've dealt with catastrophic leaks in public before, but it's rare due to how thickly I'm typically kept padded (plus a fresh change before going out does wonders), and they're not all that horrible or embarrassing if you're prepared for the possibility. Being in diapers is honestly pretty easy once you're used to it and prepared for it.
As to the upsides…well, getting to live out a fantasy is a pretty big one :p In that same vein, though, I feel like the deeper I drop into role and the more control over my life I give up, the closer I become to my partner. Letting go of all my adult worries and fears about opening up, letting myself be childish around him and him accepting and loving me for it, was easily one of the most gratifying feelings I've ever had when I was finally able to do it. Every little step I take further down that road, be it wetting myself more freely or finally feeling open enough to lay my head on his lap and cuddle up to him, only solidifies those feelings even more, causing my love and need for him to deepen. If feeling comfortable enough to let go and wet more often means furthering that connection, I doubt anything in the world could stop me, short of him deciding he'd rather I not.
All of that isn't even counting how genuinely happy it makes me to feel like more of a child/toddler/infant. I've always, ALWAYS wanted to at least experience some sort of genuine incontinence/lack of control. I'm an extremely submissive person in regards to sexuality and giving up/losing control over my bladder and bowels is, to me, kinda an ultimate act of submission. A holy grail, given my particular fetish for wearing diapers and using baby paraphernalia. I'm already infantalized to a large degree in that I'm kept in diapers, checked and changed regularly, have a childish room, and am given the privileges of a little boy for the most part, but this one thing has always prevented it from feeling truly genuine, at least in a functional aspect. The thought that I'm slowly eroding away at what's preventing me from achieving that is a pleasant, if embarrassing, one all in all.
Now as to TOTAL loss of control, I dunno that I'd ever even attempt to have a go at bowel incontinence, as that has an effect (smell) that impacts people outside of just myself and daddy and I'd rather not force that. Still, who knows? Maybe someday bladder incontinence won't be enough and I'll just start taking chlorophyll caps every day. And then, sometime later when that control is gone as well, maybe I can be put through actual potty training. Now wouldn't that be fun? :3
Regardless, last night was a step forward. One that I'm happy to have finally taken. It was just a single accident, but that's how any big change happens. One little bit at a time. Hopefully the next steps come more quickly than this one did, but even if they did I'm not sure that I'd notice. I feel like this is all a result of simply being relaxed, not paying my bladder's actions much mind, and being confident that my diapers will do their job. So I guess I'll just keep that up.
No.11505
Is it possible to have much less control while padded but then be completely in control while wearing panties? Im not sure if I'm just tricking myself psychologically but it really does feel like I have a lot less control when diapered.
No.11509
>>11505
For sure. If you're frequently in and out of diapers, enough that you have practice holding it while out of them, you're conditioning yourself to think that it's okay to pee while diapered. It's a reaction to the physical sensation of the bulk and padding between your legs.
There's an interesting occurrence where wearing thicker training pants or a bunch of briefs can feel enough like a diaper for your body to think it's padded and let loose. Cool stuff
No.11510
>>11500
>>11501
Sounds like you're having a grand old time with your soon-to-be hubby. That accident story was pretty darn cute, and looks like it prompted some healthy existential realization.
Here's to happiness in diapers! Hope I can find someone that makes me feel like that someday.
No.11526
>>11227
>>10910
>fiber
I've tried taking fiber in the past to improve my messes, but every time I try it, it tastes like I'm drinking liquefied wood. Any methods for improving taste?
No.11527
>>11510
I'm always trying to reevaluate my situation. I'm aware that it's really far outside the norm, so constantly thinking over things like progress, practicality, and prudence help to keep me level-headed through the process. Just happens to manifest in these journal-like entries.
Thanks for the well-wishes though anon, and hey. You will find someone :3 In my experience, it's just a matter of time, patience, and knowing what you want.
>>11526
Ehhh, not really. I mean, if you're getting the kind that's already flavored (Usually orange flavored), then that's about as good as it gets, anon. You've just kinda got to push past the gross texture until you get used to it.
No.11529
>>11526
you could try eating fiber-one bars
No.11535
>>11526
Eat foods that are high in fiber like carrots, pears, lentils, oatmeal, and whole-wheat spaghetti?
No.11557
>>11535
Too much fiber will make your teeth turn grey
No.11716
>>11527
>>11500
There's a detail with this kind of stuff that bothers me.
If you wear so often, how did you keep control this long at all? It took me maybe eight months in diapers to get to a point where, if the diapers were taken away, I'd just leak every few minutes. My bladder was definitely pretty weaker than most, but I was beyond help pretty quick.
No.11761
>>11716
Ha, I felt the same way about people with your experience for a long time. Thought they were complete bullshit, just pretending because they thought it would be hot. I mean, years of wearing and I've never had issues, so those stories HAVE to be wrong, right? Lol.
In reality, I don't know why it took so long. Strong sphincters, always working 8-12 hour shifts and therefore always needing to worry about holding it, and/or maybe I just never actually decided I wanted to lose control. I do think, after all these years, that there's a conscious decision that needs to be made before you can progress and maybe that's a block I'm finally getting past.
No.11763
>>11761
I'd be inclined to believe the latter. I went into it absolutely expecting to never be out of diapers again, or at the very least expecting to never use a toilet again. Plus, I was actually directly trying to finish off what was left of my continence. Been satisfied with the result!
It probably has a lot to do with how you approach it mentally, and how you hold it during the day and at night.
No.12190
so, any updates from folks going 24/7?
No.12198
>>12190
So I'm approaching the two year mark of wearing 24/7. I've worn pretty consistently for around five years now (since I moved out on my own), but it's only been around 22 months where I've been wearing 24/7 and have been trying to become incon.
My urinary continence is completely gone at this point. The only way I could not wear diapers would be for me to be potty trained again. I think it'd be fun to experience potty training but I wouldn't want to have to become incontinent again afterwards. Maybe I'll try it in the future, who knows?
My fecal continence was pretty steadfast for a long time, but around the 15 month mark I started to notice that messing was becoming really easy. I wouldn't really need to push consciously that much. Now, I'm at a point where I have messy accidents 1-2 times a week and the rest of the time I don't much more than a 15 second warning that I'm about to mess. I've bedmessed a few times, but not with any real frequency.
My happiness with my decision to achieve incontinence is at a pretty high level. There was a time around when I was having wet accidents a few times a week where I was worried about whether or not I was making the right choice for myself. Now though I'm happier than I've ever really been. Of course there are times where being incontinent is inconvenient, but overall it's amazing. I'm one of the people who has been into diapers my entire life, and being able to wear them 24/7 and be reliant on them is a dream come true.
No.12207
>>9392
>>9434
>thatpoofybunny.tumblr.com
...yeah it's still that one.
It's funny that I can remember his tumblr. I saw him in a thread on newfapchan like, 2, 3 years ago or something? He's got some cute stuff.
No.12209
>>12207
They haven't posted anything on their tumblr since July 3rd 2015
No.12217
>>12190
Just had my second birthday in diapers. Not the second birthday of my life that happens to be in diapers, just the second time my birthday came around while I've been wearing 24/7.
My experience lines up with >>12198 quite a lot, except I do sometimes regret it and try to retrain. I just… can't retrain… No matter what I do, I can't seem to make my bladder hold anymore. I think I must be doing it wrong, because when I try it just pushes it out more.
But most of the time, I'm happy with it. My bladder control has been gone for a very long time, and I mess with five minutes of warning at best. The worst part is that I can't really tell if I'm going to mess or if I just have gas, so I have a brief moment of horror if it happens inopportunely, but I am getting used to it.
No.12219
>>12217
how long did urinary incon come
No.12232
What kinds of diapers are you 24/7 folks wearing on a daily basis? Do you stay with one type or switch it up based on the situation (work, home, etc.)
No.12240
>>12232
Eight months or so. I'm told that's faster than usual but the average seems to be about 12 months give or take.
>>12232
I like wearing one kind at all times, but it can get impractical. Right now I wear m4s at night and delta-forms during the day(i prefer cloth-backed during the day it chafes less).
No.12265
This topic interests me. Say I start wearing 24/7, at what point do you think my body would start going without conscious thought? months, year(s)? What about just minor leaking?
How quickly does the bodies bladder actually weaken? Would wearing actually change anything internally or is it all mental? Is it something that if you keep doing you would actually lose something in return?
No.12266
>>12265
I'm just a passing anon, but I'm pretty sure it's all a matter of how/if you let your body get used to going in them.
If you work on going immediately when you first feel the need to, after a while your body will learn that it's a perfectly fine to do that and you'll start down the path to going without realizing it. This starts with only happening when you're wearing, but if you keep it up long enough, it'll just become your body's default response to having to go.
Whether that takes you 3, 6, or 8 months really all depends on how serious you are about it and how your body reacts.
I'm sure there are some people that already have relatively small and/or weak bladders or possibly had problems wetting the bed when they were younger and it could end up hitting them more rapidly than someone who was potty trained extremely early on and has stupidly strong bladder muscles.
Note: This is all based off of stuff I've read and heard other anons say. While I aspire to go 24/7 once able to, it's incredibly rare that I get a chance to wear even two diapers in a row.
No.12286
>>12266
Stupidly strong bladders can be real shitty with this fetish. A while back I tried to hold it until I had an accident, drank a glass of water an hour for like four hours. Held on for another six before the agony became too much and I used the toilet. My kidneys hurt for two days afterwards.
No.12296
>>12286
I know how ya feel.
I've tried the same thing before, not actually holding it but just letting my bladder deal with it.
The results were similar.
No.12310
>>12296
The worst part is it happens in other arenas too. If it takes me less than a half hour of wangbeatin' to come then I feel lucky. It's similar with sex with a partner, too. My first time I was so locked up that we went at it for a solid hour and a half before getting sideaches and giving up. She had a bruised cervix.
I wonder if the sphincter locking and the priapism share a root cause.
No.12311
>>12310
>priapism
I've tend to run into that when I really have to go at times, but I never knew what it was called or what caused it.
Is that sort of thing normal, or?
No.12314
>>12311
What you're feeling in those situations is just a pee boner, caused by your bladder expanding and rubbing against your prostate. That's completely normal.
Priapism is the term for unpleasantly-long lasting erections.
No.12325
>>12265
>>12265
If you were to just wear, you'd need a matter of months before it becomes an unconscious thing to wet, and years before anything physical. Most people who wear 24/7 here do go out of their way to 'de-train' and try to reduce bladder capacity, but yes, bladder capacity is lost very quickly. If you really put in the effort to de-train yourself and convince your body to never hold it, it goes much faster.
It takes about six months(give or take based on your individual biology) of not holding your bladder at all for your bladder capacity and muscle tone to drop to a level that you are physically incontinent if or not you're trained.
No.12348
>>12325
You say years before anything physical then the opposite and says six months. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to say?
Also, what about if one decided to do #2 as well, are there actual changes that occur to that end? It feels make believe to suggest one could not even realize when they are going #2
Anyone who has gone 24/7 and lost control, mind detailing from your memory when you really noticed changes? Did you notice gradual changes or did it happen suddenly? I'm intrigued as I'm wanting to know what I'd be getting myself into.
No.12355
>>12348
It takes six months of not holding at all for muscles to atrophy, but a year or more to get to a point where your body unconsciously doesn't hold if you aren't specifically trying to retrain. Sorry, I was tired when I wrote that!
If you're doing completely full-time, it takes a decent while. Physical changes do happen. First off, you become a lot more regular if you don't hold it, and mess in smaller amounts. That only takes a few months to start happening. You'll notice that you end up needing to mess a short while after you eat, that happened for me about six months in. After that it's a pretty gradual process of the muscles getting weak and your body reducing muscle tone to a point it just starts coming out on its own.
How quickly it starts happening unconsciously is a matter of personal biology and how well-trained you were in childhood, but I don't think it can happen without you noticing. There's just too much happening down there to be unnoticeable.
I've wet myself without noticing plenty of times while I'm distracted or tired, though, so it isn't inconceivable.
No.12358
>>12355
I've been 24/7 for about 6 months now and I'm in an odd situation. I've been trying to get to the point where I unconsciously wet but I'm always aware of when I pee. Its taken me ages to train my bladder to stop anything that could cause pee shy.
I'm still annoyingly sensitive to anything that could stop me peeing though. My job has me travel a good bit and I'm
often paired up with a local dude while I do my job. This plays havoc on my bladder as its clamps shut if I start to get stressed. The last few weeks I haven't even peed until work finishes up and I'd flood as soon as I step outside the door. Whereas normally Id piss freely and change around lunchtime.
I'm also a really heavy sleeper so I'll go through the whole night without needing to wake up to piss but then wake up with a full bladder. I've found that drinking enough liquids before going to bed seems to offset this a little bit. I'll wet the bed without noticing but still have something in my bladder that needs to be released as soon as I wake up.
>>12348
One thing that caught me off guard is that I'll let out a small tickle when I'm in between changes. Diaper off, putting the old one in the trash and start to feel myself piddle a little bit on my feet when walking back. It started off as a few drops and I thought nothing of it cos that last drop always ends up in your pants. Then it started to get more and more. My last paddedless piddle was about half a cups worth. Nothing major to clean up but it did shock me a little bit when I saw the mark it left on the carpet.
No.12359
>>12358
>One thing that caught me off guard is that I'll let out a small tickle when I'm in between changes. Diaper off, putting the old one in the trash and start to feel myself piddle a little bit on my feet when walking back
That's why you should change into a new diaper before heading off to dispose of the old one.
No.12362
>>12358
When waking up, that kind of extra flow is normal. Without gravity on your side, your bladder will inevitably hold a little more. You might try changing the position in which you sleep if you want to get that extra bit out, but the minimum possible bladder capacity is something like three to four ounces because of it.
As for wetting under stress… that's just practice, really. You have to get used to going under the worst circumstances. Try going to a gym and doing some low-weight deadlifts while relaxing your bladder, it'll help your body accept that physical stress still means it's an okay time to pee.
>>12359
Is also right. When I started wetting between changes, I just had to accept a changing pad under me and to change fully before getting up to dispose. Nothing to really be done about it. Be sure to apologize if you manage to pee on the hand of whoever's changing you.
No.12567
I have a question for the forced incon folks in the thread:
How do you normally handle doctor visits? Do you ever have to disclose why you're wearing diapers, and if so do they try to talk you out of it? Just curious to see if it's very different, or if they treat it like anything else.
No.12672
>>12355
Have you got a source for the manga ?
>>12567
I've only gone to the doctors once since starting 24/7. I've seen him a handful of times before going 24/7 and I didn't want any awkward questions so I took off my diaper just before going into his office. The visit lasted about 10 minutes and once I was done I quickly padded up again.
A mate of mine has been padded constantly for about a year now. I don't know if he was with a new doc or one he's had a history with but he said he just wore some of the pullup style diapers and he wasn't asked any awkward questions. The doctor just treated them like underpants and moved on. I imagine you could get away with wearing anything as long as it wasnt an obvious abdl diaper.
If you do get asked about it, you can say you had a few accidents related to stress and you found that wearing was comforting and helped your anxiety. Incontinence in someone under the age of 60 is a bit of a medical red flag and could be the result of something a good bit more serious. They just want to make sure you don't have an undiagnosed spinal tumor or something.
If do decide to tell them you like it for fetish reasons they probably dont care. They're trained professionals (ideally speaking anyway), at worst they'll refer you to another doctor. At best they'll clear the flag and ignore the diaper from then on.
No.12678
For those who went 24/7 and really focused on unpotty training. Around what period did you actually start having accidents & loss of control with #1? What about #2?
I'm Just finishing month 3 and I'm finding I do pee often but maybe only 2-3 times in the past two months have I experienced a minor wet diaper without noticing. And lately I've had to focus on it when I thought it was becoming easier to go.. It's like a yoyo..
Sometimes I feel the area down below warm and I'm unsure if it's just the diaper or me peeing but it's minor and I'm unsure if it's just an in my head feeling.
Just looking for other's experiences / input / re-assurance :P
No.12686
>>12672
Sorry, all I had there was the preview.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=53265113
>>12567
"Oh, I have issues with incontinence."
"Are these new issues?"
"No, I have had them for a while and see another doctor about it. I am here for _."
Never been a problem.
>>12678
It takes a pretty good while. If you're wetting without really thinking about it and relaxing all the time, and even able to wet the bed, it'll just take 3-4 months after that.
Generally it takes between 8 and 12 months for most people.
No.12693
>>12686
what if it's a urological problem. like brown colored burning pee. would you tell the doctor that you are forced incon then?
No.12703
>>12693
Forced incontinence is just a combination of two things. Conditioning yourself to pee without hesitation and muscular atrophy. Unless you start doing some more serious shit like catheters, and even then you'd need to be scraping your bladder wall, your pee shouldn't be brown.
I'd definitely talk to a doctor about that but I doubt forced incontinence is related.
No.12704
>>12693
Then explain that you've been incontinent a fairly long time due to undefined muscular issues.
Incontinence is one of those things that often slips by without any explanation. Doctors can look, but they can't really put your nerves under a microscope to see what's wrong with them. Sometimes they just don't know what caused it, and that's enough of an explanation for most doctors.
No.12762
So I had to pee.
I went on a toilet, naturally.
And peed.
Then I woke up before the damage could spread a lot beyond my pants.
I didnt wear a diaper
No.12764
Have yall had any major leaks in public, on monday I wet so much but I guess sitting on the bus did me in. It came out that back waistband and kinda left a ring around the top of my jeans. I have no idea if anyone even notice.
No.12806
>>12764
once, a few weeks ago. not 24/7 but it happened anyway.
i had a longsleeve shirt and i just wrapped the arms of it around my waist and it covered the back up just fine. i'd have died of embarrassment without it!
No.12809
>>12762
I've been trying for a while to cause the pee dream, it just won't work. Even in a dream when I realize I'm dreaming, first thing I'll do is wet myself on the spot. Best result was I woke up with a soaked bed but that was still in the dream. I'm not interested in going 24/7 or even nightly bedwetting, but I think it would be neat to wake up wet once.
No.12821
>>12764
A couple times, yeah. By and large people aren't paying attention, so I can just brush off to a bathroom, change, and dry off my pants a bit.
I don't wet big amounts, so the amount I leak is pretty limited.
No.12830
>you will never have a rich girl play mommy and force you to go 24/7
>technology won't progress fast enough to make us NEETs and allow us to go 24/7 without forcing us into a risky situation everyday in the workplace until we're all crusty and old
>you will be too old to participate in the incontinence revolution
why
even
live
Moving on, I'm not personally 24/7 but I've got some questions.
1.Does going 24/7 for long periods of time and inducing incontinence help you regress during ageplay? Do you all ageplay frequently?
2.Do any of your partners actively encourage/enjoy you going 24/7? Does it improve your sexual/fetish relationship that there's the added level of dependence?
3.Are there any people in your lives (parents, mostly) that know that you made a conscious decision to basically make yourself incontinent?
4.Are there any times where you've clearly been caught by a stranger? How did they/you react?
5.Do you make an conscious effort to hide your diapers in public/the workplace? If you did, but now do not, is it because you simply don't care, or do you relish in the exhibitionism? If you do, how far does hiding your diaper go?
6.I've noticed a significant lack of fetish adult baby diapers ITT being worn by the people going 24/7, why? Are they too obvious in public? Is that because they're too thick, or too babyish? Is it because they're too expensive? Do they not work as well?
7.Do you diaper yourself differently for work/public/staying at home? Is it just wearing different diapers, or do you put in more stuffers in response to where you'll be for the next couple hours.
8.For those with significant others, how much has being 24/7 made moderate ageplay the norm in your relationship? Are diaper checks and changings common, or are they more for the ageplay/bedroom times? Is it better for the quality of your diapering that they change you?
9.Has thickness of diapers affected the way you walk? The way you sit?
10.If anything was possible, is there any way you could change your 24/7 experience to make it any better or more fitting to how you want to live your life? For example, baby furniture in your house that fits you, a crib, eating baby food, a pacifier, or a caretaker meant to baby you.
No.12831
>>12830
I have another question I forgot to post, but it's similar to question 8
11.Have any elements of ageplay (sucking on pacifiers, wearing onesies, ect…) become normal in your life? If so, do you do it all the time, or just at home? Is, for example, doing something like a onesie just simply more practical?
How would you rate yourself from 1-10 on a scale of solely incon to AB? One being an ageplayless fully incontinent person, and ten being in an almost permanent state of age play and being as close to a full AB as you can these days.
Another one, quite possible the most personal of them all.
12.Do you shave your body hair? If so, is it because it has practical value or just because hairlessness on the body is a sign of youth? How much of your body hair is shaven? I'm under the assumption that everyone that goes 24/7 shaves their pubes, because pubic hair is a real pain for even recreational diaper wearing.
Sorry if my questions are kind of invasive, I'm just really curious about the whole lifestyle.
No.12832
>>12830
1. I'm not much of an AB, so I can't tell you.
2. I try to date within the ABDL scene, so most people I've dated encourage it.
3. A few friends.
4. Usually, no reaction at all. I was kind of embarrassed the first few times, but after a while I realized that no one cares. The most I've ever gotten was a raised eyebrow.
5. I make a mild effort, no more than anyone would go through to hide their underwear. I just make sure my pants don't fall down and don't wear a skirt that's too short, that sort of thing.
6. When you're wearing 24/7, price matters. You go through a lot of diapers and need to get a good price on them. Adult baby style diapers are a lot more expensive, and not necessarily more practical to compensate.
I like diapers with little designs because I miss panties a little, but Abenas cover that for me.
7. I personally just have two kinds of diaper -one for daytime and one while asleep. I keep some boosters around if I need to go on a long car trip or something.
8. He seems to find it super cute and be super into it, but I'm not that AB. I let him change me sometimes though, and once or twice his checking has saved me a leak.
9. I do like sitting with my legs spread a little more than before. No difference otherwise.
10. Probably making them cheaper.
11. Nope. Not into ageplay. I'm definitely a 1 or 2.
12. I shave my legs and diaper area, ye. It helps against rashes.
No.12866
>>12809
Not even drunk can I do that. I guess I should give myself more credit.
>>12830
Someday will be able to plug into the matrix and never leave.
No.12867
>>12866
>>12830
The only acceptable future for humanity is one where we will all be able to live out our every fantasy in an eternal computerized dreamscape.
I will spend an eternity ruling over my diapered paradise as a benevolent god-king.
No.12871
>>12830
>>12831
Holy shit, let's do this:
>1.Does going 24/7 for long periods of time and inducing incontinence help you regress during ageplay? Do you all ageplay frequently?
Diapers and BEING regressed/infantalized are more my thing, not actually regressing myself, but yes. Having my diaper changed especially gets me feeling small and babyish. Everything from being ordered up on the table, to having a teddy bear and pacifier given to me, to the change itself, leaves me feeling all of 3 years old. "Forced" infantalization at its finest.
>2.Do any of your partners actively encourage/enjoy you going 24/7? Does it improve your sexual/fetish relationship that there's the added level of dependence?
Yup! I've been told pretty consistently that it's preferred that I stay in diapers because I'm just a happier person when I'm in them…which is true tbh. I can get fairly distant and closed off if I'm only going about my "big-boy" life and just wearing diapers on the random occasion I get horny. Wearing all the time though? Always fairly energetic and much more dependent on my partner.
And yeah, I'd say it improves our sex life for sure. Particularly me being locked up in a chastity device seems to kick my partner's sex-focus into overdrive. Loooot of blowjobs and having toys shoved up inside me in those times lol. We both have our big kinks, so vanilla sex is kinda a rarity and a bore.
>3.Are there any people in your lives (parents, mostly) that know that you made a conscious decision to basically make yourself incontinent?
Eh, only a close friend from before I moved away from my hometown. We tell each other nearly everything and have always been chill with weird content. Best friend I've ever had. Most of my friends these days are other ABDLs or fetishists though. I've been in diapers since before I met the other normies, so it'd likely be stranger for them to notice I'm in underwear than the other way around. Nobody's asked for details on why I wear them.
>4.Are there any times where you've clearly been caught by a stranger? How did they/you react?
Negative. And I've worn for a long fucking time. I mean, I've caught people stealing glances and stuff if that counts. Idk, people care more about themselves than others and most don't want to deal with the awkwardness of bringing the subject up.
>5.Do you make an conscious effort to hide your diapers in public/the workplace? If you did, but now do not, is it because you simply don't care, or do you relish in the exhibitionism? If you do, how far does hiding your diaper go?
Abso-fucking-lutely I conceal it at work. You'd be retarded not to. This is your professional life and burning bridges there lasts a LONG fucking time, including into future jobs. If you want to pass off at work as someone who is medically incontinent, you need to act the part. Someone who wears diapers for medical use would 99% of the time NOT just flaunt it at work. I probably take it a bit far, but I prefer a pair of plastic pants and a plain onesie under my work clothes to mask any crinkle and cut down on any leaks. Rarely had any problems.
Just out in public though? I could give less of a fuck lol. I'm not gonna purposefully draw any attention to it (though my partner likes tucking my shirt loosely into the back waistband of my diaper sometimes >.<), but I'm not going to go out of my way to hide it either. Diapers are my underwear and if they happen to show, so be it. If I notice, I'll fix it, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.
No.12872
>>12830
>>12871
>6.I've noticed a significant lack of fetish adult baby diapers ITT being worn by the people going 24/7, why? Are they too obvious in public? Is that because they're too thick, or too babyish? Is it because they're too expensive? Do they not work as well?
Ehhh, I wear AB diapers nearly all the time (though I fucking love Comficares), but they're expensive as fuck. $2/diaper if you want something functional (i.e. not regular snuggies or cushies) adds up quick when you need at least a couple changes per day. Compare it to 24/7s which come in at ~$1.60/diaper and it ends up being a lot more manageable and can leave AB diapers for more special/intimate occasions. I don't think thickness plays a big part in it for most, but I can definitely see some people preferring medical looking diapers in public to obvious fetish-wear.
>7.Do you diaper yourself differently for work/public/staying at home? Is it just wearing different diapers, or do you put in more stuffers in response to where you'll be for the next couple hours.
I do, yeah. For work, which is ~10 hours away from home with no easy place to change during the day, I usually use a couple abrilet maxis in my bellissimos/space diapers and they end up lasting pretty well. When going out it's more my partner's call, but we add appropriate thickness yeah. Changes in public, when not planned, are more annoying than anything so it's simpler to just avoid them when possible.
>8.For those with significant others, how much has being 24/7 made moderate ageplay the norm in your relationship? Are diaper checks and changings common, or are they more for the ageplay/bedroom times? Is it better for the quality of your diapering that they change you?
Sort of answered previously, but it's made our relationship much more ageplay-focused, or "ageplay-infused" perhaps. It's mostly just everyday life with diaper checks, changes, plushies being pushed in my arms, pacifiers being used as a mute button, and being tucked in at night. I'm also probably a bit more obedient/subservient when it comes to doing chores and stuff than I used to be, while my partner's a bit more forceful and confident about his needs and wants. The threat of spankings is a strong one lol.
As to diaper changes, I used to be miles ahead of him in skill, having done it myself for almost 10 years. He's been changing diapers for two years now though, while I haven't been and it shows. He's way better at getting me clean and getting a good fit. I'm better off leaving it to him :p
>9.Has thickness of diapers affected the way you walk? The way you sit?
Eh, not as noticeably as you'd think. I actually just got home from a diaperless weekend at my parents (It's a hurdle I'm still a bit scared to cross) and there's not much different in my gait. I mean, there's a noticeable waddle with really thick diapers, sure, but I still walk mostly the same regardless of padding. Sitting's the same too, though I'm a bit more conscious of how high the hem of my shirts ride up nowadays.
No.12873
>>12830
>>12831
>>12872
>10.If anything was possible, is there any way you could change your 24/7 experience to make it any better or more fitting to how you want to live your life? For example, baby furniture in your house that fits you, a crib, eating baby food, a pacifier, or a caretaker meant to baby you.
I'd love to have the associated furniture I'm still lacking. Highchair, Crib, Playpen, and even a carseat would be legit. I suppose ideally I'd like a bit more domination/rules/punishment and a bit less caring/doting/pampering from my partner, but that's just quibbling about minor differences tbh. Oh, an adult jumper would be fucking awesome too /dreams
>11.Have any elements of ageplay (sucking on pacifiers, wearing onesies, ect…) become normal in your life? If so, do you do it all the time, or just at home? Is, for example, doing something like a onesie just simply more practical?
How would you rate yourself from 1-10 on a scale of solely incon to AB? One being an ageplayless fully incontinent person, and ten being in an almost permanent state of age play and being as close to a full AB as you can these days.
I'm probably a 7 on that scale, leaning towards 8. Baby clothes all the time at home, not allowed to deal with my own diapers, frequent use of pacifiers, plushies, and other baby comforts, dressed by my daddy, sleep in a nursery (or as close as is currently possible for us, which is closer than most get), receive age-appropriate punishments, and have a bedtime.
I don't rate it higher because I'm rarely in a "little" headspace, plus we don't push the ageplay thing in public outside of diapers and daddy talking down to me a bit. I also haven't been relegated to bottles/sippies or childish cutlery/plates yet either, or baby food and formula for that matter. Still, I'd say it's pretty solidly entrenched in our everyday lives and makes it all around better/more enjoyable. Especially now that we both work from home.
>12.Do you shave your body hair? If so, is it because it has practical value or just because hairlessness on the body is a sign of youth? How much of your body hair is shaven? I'm under the assumption that everyone that goes 24/7 shaves their pubes, because pubic hair is a real pain for even recreational diaper wearing.
Yeah, I keep my diaper area shaved. Mostly because it's WAY easier for changing diapers, especially messy ones, but also because it's a symbol of my lack of maturity/adulthood which is a big thing for me. Hard to feel like an adult man when you don't even have the pubic hair to prove it. I usually shave my legs and chest for the same reasons, but less often (once every 2-3 weeksish) because it's such a fucking pain.
Thanks for the questions. Shit's fun to answer.
No.12877
>>12830
>1.Does going 24/7 for long periods of time and inducing incontinence help you regress during ageplay? Do you all ageplay frequently?
Yeah, I'd say that it helps a lot for ageplay stuff. The feeling of being a toddler doesn't require much suspension of disbelief when you are living the life pretty much 24/7 and are padded at all times. I'm one of those people who does AB/DL stuff constantly, it's just a normal part of day to day life at this point.
>2.Do any of your partners actively encourage/enjoy you going 24/7? Does it improve your sexual/fetish relationship that there's the added level of dependence?
My boyfriend absolutely loves the Daddy role, so he really encourages me going 24/7. Yeah, the added dependence does add a lot to our relationship and I'd say it's one of the most fun aspects of being in such a relationship. I've had similar reactions from past girlfriends, but they weren't as in love with the Mommy/Daddy role as my boyfriend now.
>3.Are there any people in your lives (parents, mostly) that know that you made a conscious decision to basically make yourself incontinent?
Outside of the AB/DL circle of friends there aren't many people who know about it, and the ones that do know about it aren't aware of the extent to which I take diaper wearing and AB stuff.
>4.Are there any times where you've clearly been caught by a stranger? How did they/you react?
Yep, I get 'caught' probably every month or two. I'm assuming we aren't counting people seeing me buying padding in stores, because if we did then the number would be a lot higher. Usually it's just me noticing someone staring at my diaper poking out from my waistband on those occasions where I'm not wearing a onesie under my clothes. Nothing ever really comes from that other than me pulling my pants up more or pulling my shirt down.
No.12878
>>12830
>>12877
>5.Do you make an conscious effort to hide your diapers in public/the workplace? If you did, but now do not, is it because you simply don't care, or do you relish in the exhibitionism? If you do, how far does hiding your diaper go?
Back when I was working in an office I started my stint of going 24/7. I never really wore to work before, but I thought I'd be able to hide it. Turns out someone noticed and HR gave me a key to the handicapped bathrooms so I'd have a private place to change. They never said who noticed, but I guess it doesn't really matter at this point. I work from home now so dealing with an office is no longer an issue. Personally, I'm not an exhibitionist at all. If it were up to me no one would ever notice that I was wearing diapers. For hiding them I usually wear a onesie or something to keep to poof and crinkles under wraps. In the winter it's never an issue since everyone is wearing tons of snow gear so everyone is crinkly in one way or another.
>6.I've noticed a significant lack of fetish adult baby diapers ITT being worn by the people going 24/7, why? Are they too obvious in public? Is that because they're too thick, or too babyish? Is it because they're too expensive? Do they not work as well?
I mostly wear ABDL diapers at home, but if I'm going out I'll wear something that suits the location I'm going to. A movie or something like that is fine for a thick & crinkly diaper since it's dark and loud there, but if I'm going over to a friend's place for dinner or something like that I'll wear something a lot more discreet. I find diapers like ABU Space or Tykables Overnights are wearable in public as long as you know how to keep them hidden under your clothes. Usually though if I'm going out of the house I'll be wearing a M3 since they are quiet and thin enough to be easily hidden, but still good enough to last me 6-8 hours if need be.
Price has never been a big issue for me. I make alright money and I'm pretty good at handling my money so spending $2000-$3000 a year on diapers isn't really a huge deal.
>7.Do you diaper yourself differently for work/public/staying at home? Is it just wearing different diapers, or do you put in more stuffers in response to where you'll be for the next couple hours.
At home it's usually just the thickest and cutest diapers I have on hand (whatever my boyfriend picks really, since he's usually the one changing me). As stated above I usually wear M3s in public.
No.12879
>>12830
>>12877
>>12878
>8.For those with significant others, how much has being 24/7 made moderate ageplay the norm in your relationship? Are diaper checks and changings common, or are they more for the ageplay/bedroom times? Is it better for the quality of your diapering that they change you?
For me and my boyfriend ageplay is definitely the norm. Yeah, diaper checks and changes are totally normal everyday occurrences. If he's home he checks my diaper every 15 minutes or so. We're almost always in the same room when we're at home, and I spend a lot of time in his lap so it's not hard to maintain that frequency of diaper checks. The quality of the diapering is way better when he does it compared to when I do it. I've been 24/7 close to two years and I still have trouble lining up the tapes, and he always makes them perfect.
>9.Has thickness of diapers affected the way you walk? The way you sit?
I probably have a bit of a natural waddle now due to the constant thick padding between my legs. Sitting is pretty much the same, although every seat is now a lot comfier.
>10.If anything was possible, is there any way you could change your 24/7 experience to make it any better or more fitting to how you want to live your life? For example, baby furniture in your house that fits you, a crib, eating baby food, a pacifier, or a caretaker meant to baby you.
Well I already have the full-on toddler experience over here. We currently have a high chair, but that's about it for baby furniture. We are planning on getting a new place soon and when we do we're going to turn one of the bedrooms into a playroom with a changing table and whatnot, and that's going to be amazing.
No.12881
>>12831
>>12877
>>12878
>>12879
>11.Have any elements of ageplay (sucking on pacifiers, wearing onesies, ect…) become normal in your life? If so, do you do it all the time, or just at home? Is, for example, doing something like a onesie just simply more practical?
I've pretty much already answered this one in my previous responses. AB/DL stuff is totally normal everyday stuff for me now.
>How would you rate yourself from 1-10 on a scale of solely incon to AB? One being an ageplayless fully incontinent person, and ten being in an almost permanent state of age play and being as close to a full AB as you can these days.
Around a 7 I'd say. I do a fair amount of AB stuff, but I still enjoy doing adult stuff too. Plus I'd be fine giving up all the AB stuff if I had too if I could keep on wearing 24/7. The AB stuff is fun, but the main event is really the diapers.
>12.Do you shave your body hair? If so, is it because it has practical value or just because hairlessness on the body is a sign of youth? How much of your body hair is shaven? I'm under the assumption that everyone that goes 24/7 shaves their pubes, because pubic hair is a real pain for even recreational diaper wearing.
I don't touch my arm or leg hair. But my pubes are all long gone. When I got serious with my boyfriend I got my pubes lasered off permanently. I've always preferred being smooth for a lot of reasons. The fact that it's more practical for diapering is just a huge bonus.
>Sorry if my questions are kind of invasive, I'm just really curious about the whole lifestyle.
No worries. I love answering these sorts of questions. It's great seeing someone who wants to know more about something so fun!
No.13237
Is it normal to change and the immediately wet yourself again? That seems to be a thing that is happening more often.
No.13239
I used to think that people who wore 24/7 were taking it too far.
Now I seriously want to do it, and 100% support anyone who is 24/7 or wants to do it.
No.13258
>>13237
How immediate is immediate?
Either way, it's something real babies do, and he point of being incontinent is that you don't get to pick the most convenient time to wet.
No.13269
>>13237
>Is it normal to change and the immediately wet yourself again? That seems to be a thing that is happening more often.
Yeah, that is definitely normal. I usually wet within 5-10 mins of being changed, most of the time it's almost immediately after being changed. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the change of "scenery" about your bits leading to a release of urine. I think that's what causes peeing during changes.
>>13239
>I used to think that people who wore 24/7 were taking it too far. Now I seriously want to do it, and 100% support anyone who is 24/7 or wants to do it.
I used to be the same way. I never really thought I could handle the lifestyle changes required for 24/7 and I thought I would grow tired of it.
Now, even with the occasional struggles due to my deepening incontinence I say it's definitely way better than I ever thought it would be. I have a few friends who are in varying stages of trying to become a 24/7 crinklebutt and I do what I can to help them along in their journey.
If you or anyone else ever needs advice about being 24/7, just ask. I'm more than happy to help out others :P
No.13274
>>13269
>friends who are in varying stages of trying to become a 24/7 crinklebutt
IRL or online friends?
Also, do you have any advice for people just starting out? I may try to do it in a couple years when I move out.
No.13279
>>13274
where did you get this I didnt see t hem on Jdude website, whoever is commissioning diaper art of my waifu kari is doing god's work
No.13280
>>13279
I don't remember. IIRC, it was a commissioned piece that LilJDude didn't upload, but the commissioner did.
No.13281
>>13279
>>13280
Wait, no, here it is. It's on his FA page, not his DA one.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/16419596/
No.13284
>>13274
>IRL or online friends?
Mostly IRL friends. These days I have a bunch of ABDL friends IRL so I don't have too many reasons to go looking online. I find one of the biggest things I can do to help others go 24/7 is to hang out with them while padded. For a lot of ABDLs they never really get a chance to "normalize" diapers in the sense that they don't get much experience in diapered activities where the diapers aren't the main thing.
I live in a big city next to two other big cities so there's a rather sizable ABDL population around me. Having a diapered circle of friends is a great thing to have if you want to go 24/7. Having people who understand the situation and encourage it will be a huge help to anyone planning on going 24/7.
>Also, do you have any advice for people just starting out? I may try to do it in a couple years when I move out.
The standard advice is to take your time with things, and don't force yourself to go further than you are comfortable with. If you get tired of padding after two weeks then there is nothing wrong with that. I had a few 2-3 month 24/7 stints before I entered my current stint of being 24/7 (approaching 18 months I think).
For more practical advice I'd say you need to keep a really big stock of diapers. I'd say you should try to keep around a 1 month supply or more if possible. Running out of diapers is a huge bummer and should really be avoided if possible. Also diaper variety is really important. You can't wear a 4000ml+ capacity diaper in every scenario, you need to have some diapers that you can wear for those times when you need to minimize thickness and crinkles, and you need some good quality cloth-backed for those really hot days.
If you are interested I could give you a list of 4-6 brands that will give a huge amount of versatility and variety.
No.13292
>>13284
I'd be interested in seeing what you consider the best brands for each situation.
Most of my experience is with thicker ones, so other than tena maxi, I wouldn't know much about 'everyday' ones.
No.13294
>>13292
Not that anon but I wear molicares supers for daily and nightly. They are thick but I don't care if people notice because it is none of their bees wax what I do. I might switch to abena m3s when molicares goes cloth back though
No.13295
>>13294
Alright, but supposing someone does care about getting noticed?
I've tried the molicares before and they are concealable to a degree, at least while dry, but I'm not entirely confident in my ability to get away with it fully.
No.13332
>>13284
>>13292
>I'd be interested in seeing what you consider the best brands for each situation. Most of my experience is with thicker ones, so other than tena maxi, I wouldn't know much about 'everyday' ones.
In my mind there really isn't a ubiquitous 'everyday' diaper, and this due to different everyday situations requiring different style of padding. For me there is a few major categories where if you have diapers that cover those categories you will be well equipped to handle almost anything while going 24/7. The categories themselves will really depend on each individual person, but I'll give you my main categories. There's: at home, exercise, out with ABDL friends, and out with non-ABDL friends. Pretty much every situation will fall into one of these categories.
*At home*. Here, discretion and whatnot isn't important so this is the easiest situation to deal with. I just go with the thickest and most absorbent diapers that I have available to me. For example: M4s, ABU Space, Dry 24/7, Tykables Overnight, Rearz, etc.
*Exercise*. If I'm out running or on my bike I'll only need to worry about 1-2 wettings most of the time. The main concern is really just chaffing. I'd stick with a cloth-backed diaper (to keep things cool) and something rather thin (you don't want to run 5km+ wearing a thick diaper). At the gym the same rules apply, except thinness becomes slightly more important if you are wearing tight pants/shorts. There will be a lot of sweat so you'll want to bring something to change into when you are done. Personally I wear Small Tena Pull-ups in whatever strength is the highest absorbency. I think it's Ultimate that holds the most. I get them at around 75 cents a pull-up so only wearing one for an hour or two isn't a big deal.
*Out with ABDL friends*. In these situations the need for discretion is really minimal. All you need is something that doesn't draw attention to your group of friends. Depending on the noise level of the place you are going to you will want to either wear a plastic-backed or cloth-backed. Thickness isn't really a problem here since very few members of the public will stare at a group of people with poofy butts and assume they are all wearing diapers. As long as you aren't flaunting it you should be fine wearing whatever thickness you prefer. One thing to keep in mind is the smell. If you pee smells you should try to wear something that can contain it or add some quiet plastic pants. High noise level: M4, or Tykables Overnight. Low Noise Level: M3, Tena Super, or any good-quality cloth-backed diaper.
*Out with Non-ABDL friends*. This is the tricky one. If you aren't incontinent you always have the option to not be padded, but if you are like me you don't really have a choice. I'll usually pick something that is both quiet and absorbent. Absorbency is sort of more important than thickness here because a wet crotch from a leak will give you away much more easily than a poofy butt. I recommend: M3s or Tena Supers. Also an absorbent pull-up would work if you really want to wear something thin.
No.13333
>>13284
>>13332
>>13295
>Alright, but supposing someone does care about getting noticed?
I totally get where you are coming from. I may be someone who has turned myself incontinent and wears diapers 24/7, but I'm still a guy in my mid-20s who would rather not expose my secrets to the world.
My advice in the above post covers some stuff about what to wear if you want to be discreet. But I'll post some more stuff if anyone wants additional covert diaper tactics.
The main thing to focus on is clothing. If you wear the right stuff you'll be able to hide any diaper underneath it. Tight underwear and jeans that are a little baggy combined with a sweater will conceal the bulge really well.
I'm kind of lucky as a Canadian since in the winter everyone is wearing coats and pants that rustle and crinkle so no one pays any attention to those sounds. I can wear my thickest padding out anywear and the heavy clothes covers the thickness and the crinkles just blend into the crinkles and rustles of everyone's coats and pants.
No.13336
>>13333
>>13332
Yes, this is really helpful.
Ireland's not quite as cold, but it's often rainy, so hiding things is easier some days.
yeah, I was thinking pullups would be best for gyming. I've only tried the attends so far, so I'llhave to look into the tena for when I'm able to start doing 24/7 seriously.
And yeah, I take measures to reduce my pee smelling. I completely avoid coffee, for example, if I plan on wearing. I'll need to look into plastic pants though.
>I just go with the thickest and most absorbent diapers that I have available to me. For example: M4s, ABU Space, Dry 24/7, Tykables Overnight, Rearz, etc.
Heh, I have all of those(+crinklz) in my stock.
No.13340
>>13333
>>13332
I love the thought put into this, but wanted to let people know that it's very possible to only have two categories. Gym/super discrete and anytime else. As mentioned in the second post, it's super easy to disguise practically any diaper under clothes with the right setup. Having a solid onesie and quiet plastic pants is too good. I've never had a non-abdl friend, co-worker, or even just randoms out and about notice anything. I'm a bit lucky when it comes to work, admittedly. Office jobs with no hard dress code make things pretty simple. I think I'd definitely have to pull something thinner if I had to wear slacks or had a job involving more movement throughout a day.
My semi-ubiquitous diaper these days are space pamps, but anything of similar absorbency works pretty well. They're typically good enough to get me through anytime I'm going out without much worry, though stuffers are a great thing to add for pub crawls and parties.
Gym and workouts absolutely require something thinner though, agreed. Chaffing is a bitch and I've had the thigh burns to prove it, ugh. I went with M2s for a long time, but Waddlers have actually worked out really well for me in recent times. Super thin, quiet, good for a couple wettings, and still fit that babyishness my bf likes enforcing. I could probably get away with thicker to be honest, but onesies are constricting as fuck for workouts, plus with all the sweat there's really no point wearing after getting back from the gym.
I guess I'm just saying that you don't NEED to go hardcore on having a ton of different styles on hand while 24/7, even while having an active social life and staying discrete. I won't dispute that it can be useful at times to have a variety, but it's not critical.
No.13350
>>13294
m3s are only available in cloth now m8.
No.13368
>>13350
fuck what is left that is about $70 for a monthly case (around ~50 to 60 diapers) that is plastic
No.13369
>>13368
Bambino Teddies if you like prints, Biancos if you'd prefer all white. 70 bucks for 48
No.13401
>>13368
Absorbency Plus. $76 for 64 level 3s, $90 for 64 level 4s.
They're absorbent and quiet. Haven't tried the level 3s but the level 4s are almost as absorbent as a dry 24/7.
http://www.xpmedical.com/absorbency_plus.html
No.13446
>>12830
>1.Does going 24/7 for long periods of time and inducing incontinence help you regress during ageplay? Do you all ageplay frequently?
I'm not huge into age play. There are certain things I appreciate from it like cuddling or tickles but I don't regress to a certain age. However, I do like the mindset that's attached to it and being 24/7 definitely reinforces that. I'm going for urinary incontinence because I enjoy the helplessness of depending on diapers.
>2.Do any of your partners actively encourage/enjoy you going 24/7? Does it improve your sexual/fetish relationship that there's the added level of dependence?
I'm currently not in a romantic relationship but it does improve my play with others. Being a bed wetter and having to be checked is appealing to the people I play with and myself. Also, being partially incontinent means that things wihin play, such as leaking, are genuine and I'm more "broken in" than someone just starting out.
>3.Are there any people in your lives (parents, mostly) that know that you made a conscious decision to basically make yourself incontinent?
Only my kinky friends know I'm 24/7 and all of them are abdl so its not especially shocking. Even then I started going 24/7 before I really got into the community.
>4.Are there any times where you've clearly been caught by a stranger? How did they/you react?
I make no major effort to hide my diapers. I'm still wearing pants and in a professional environment so if anyone does notice, its not like someone says anything. That said, I dont wear underwear over the diapers. Its just a pair of pants covering them so they can been seen if I squat down or bend over. I've found that the top of the diaper tends to come down an inch or two after moving about for a few minutes so it's almost looks like a normal pair of underwear at a glance. That said, my room mate doesnt know and I am more concious about wearing around him. Normal clothes make shuffling sounds that hide the crinkle but if I'm in my footie PJs, there's nothing to hide it.
>5.Do you make an conscious effort to hide your diapers in public/the workplace? If you did, but now do not, is it because you simply don't care, or do you relish in the exhibitionism? If you do, how far does hiding your diaper go?
I work in a casual office which means jeans and a tshirt are fine. I'm also sitting down most of the day so nobody sees my ass most of the time anyway. I used to wear underwear over my diaper when I went to work but it became extra hassle when changing so I stopped. As long as you arent in peoples faces about it, either nobody notices or cares that you're wearing a diaper. They probably assume you need it and questioning it would just be rude. Pretty much everyone is like that. They have their own lives to worry about and having some padding between your legs isnt high on their list of concerns.
No.13447
>>12830
>>13446
>6.I've noticed a significant lack of fetish adult baby diapers ITT being worn by the people going 24/7, why? Are they too obvious in public? Is that because they're too thick, or too babyish? Is it because they're too expensive? Do they not work as well?
I'm still trying a bunch of different diapers to find my ideal daily diaper. So I've worn the standard stuff as well as the abdl focused diapers in public, work, home, etc. Once you understand that nobody cares what kind of diaper you wear its very freeing because you can wear whatever you want and not have to worry about being to noisy or too thick. That said, most abdl diapers are more expensive than the standard fare and I go through 4 or 5 diapers a day so it adds up pretty quick. I've also found that abdl diapers don't cover all of the bases as well as standard diapers do for daily wear. There's more a focus on fashion rather than function with abdl diapers and I need things like absorbency, tape strength, odor control, robustness, etc. The only abdl diaper I've found that's okay for daily wear is the mydiaper. They're a little smaller than I'd like and arent as absorbant but at €1 a piece they're worth it. The tapes are so strong that I've had them rip the front of the diaper open when I sit down sometimes.
>7.Do you diaper yourself differently for work/public/staying at home? Is it just wearing different diapers, or do you put in more stuffers in response to where you'll be for the next couple hours.
I hate changing standing up so I try do it laying down as much as possible regardless of where I am. However sometimes its too much effort to find a big enough space so I do it standing up up in a cubicle. I usually use boosters at home just because they're there but always to forget to bring them with me when Im out and about. My changing bag consists of 3 diapers, powder, wipes and small garbage bags so I dont really have space for a handful of boosters as well. I know another guy who inserts the boosters before hand and refolds the diaper for later but that's too much effort for me.
>8.For those with significant others, how much has being 24/7 made moderate ageplay the norm in your relationship? Are diaper checks and changings common, or are they more for the ageplay/bedroom times? Is it better for the quality of your diapering that they change you?
No SO yet so can't give much info on this.
>9.Has thickness of diapers affected the way you walk? The way you sit?
If I'm doubled up there is a bit of a noticeable waddle but only noticeable to me or my kinky friends. We've sat on each others laps and noticed it then but not in the hum drum day to day stuff.
>10.If anything was possible, is there any way you could change your 24/7 experience to make it any better or more fitting to how you want to live your life? For example, baby furniture in your house that fits you, a crib, eating baby food, a pacifier, or a caretaker meant to baby you.
Age regression doesn't appeal to me just yet. I don't exactly desire to be a baby again but instead enjoy certain aspects of that lifestyle. That carefree feeling is fantastic. Baby talk, not so much. I do have a teddy bear and pacifier that I use every night because they're comforting and help me sleep better. That said, if I was given the opportunity for a big baby room I'd definitely try it at least.
No.13449
>>12831
>>13446
>>13447
>11.Have any elements of ageplay (sucking on pacifiers, wearing onesies, ect…) become normal in your life? If so, do you do it all the time, or just at home? Is, for example, doing something like a onesie just simply more practical?
I go to sleep with my pacifier and my teddy in hand every night I'm able. Its just a comfort thing now. When I'm tired, if I put in my pacifier I get noticeably more sleepy and crave cuddles, much to the delight of my playmates. Its like a literal off switch. If I dont get either its like sleeping in a position you arent used to. Sure you'll fall asleep at some point but not as comfortable.
>How would you rate yourself from 1-10 on a scale of solely incon to AB? One being an ageplayless fully incontinent person, and ten being in an almost permanent state of age play and being as close to a full AB as you can these days.
I'm probably around a 4 or a 5. I don't do age play but I've definitely got a little side. Things like cuddling bring it out and its a personality shift when it happens. I go from a gruff lumberjack to a shy affectionate huggy monster in a moment. I'm happy where I'm at right now but I'd be open to try going further down the rabbit hole just to see what it's like.
>12.Do you shave your body hair? If so, is it because it has practical value or just because hairlessness on the body is a sign of youth? How much of your body hair is shaven? I'm under the assumption that everyone that goes 24/7 shaves their pubes, because pubic hair is a real pain for even recreational diaper wearing.
I'm a pretty hairy dude but only started trimming my pubes because I read somewhere it's easier to clean. For me it never seems that much of an issue but if Im getting changed by someone else I dont mind spending 10 minutes a week doing a quick trim to make their lives easier.
No.13988
Would efforts to become bladder incontinent by wearing 24/7 be subverted by using the bathroom to defecate? As appealing as the idea of diaper dependency is, the reality is that pooping in diapers isn't worth the cleanup (to me, anyway).
No.13999
>>13988
I've been told it does interfere to an extent, but people have managed one without the other, so it's far from impossible.
No.14034
how long does it take you to change in a public restroom? Anything you do to help speed up the process?
I'm not 24/7, but I'm very comfortable wearing in public and am interested in going 24/7 in the next year.
It usually takes me 3 minutes if I'm wet, and 6-8 minutes for messes. Pic sort of related; it's me about to change a messy diaper.
When I'm changing a messy diaper, I wear a pair of disposable latex gloves (I keep a box in my changing bag).
No.14035
>>14034
Practice makes perfect, and it really depends on what you keep in your diaper bag and whatnot.
For me a wet diaper takes about a minute, and a messy diaper can take 2-4 minutes.
Over time you'll constantly find little ways to shave off seconds from the time it takes you to change, and those seconds will add up to minutes until you reach a plateau where getting faster wouldn't really be practical.
No.14084
>>14035
for those of you who mess, how many times a day do you mess?
I poop 4-5 times a day. I eat a lot of fiber.
No.15015
When was the last time you peed/pooped on the toilet?
(don't count using it to dispose of poop from a messy diaper).
No.15096
>>14034
That's about my time. I don't think it can get much faster, personally.
>>15015
I think it's been about four months. I was about to mess in the shower and got out in time.
No.15103
>>15015
November 8th was the last time, and will be the last time I use a toilet ever again~
Doesn't feel like it's been 2 months but I guess it has!
Already too incontinent (both urinary and fecal) to be safe without wearing a diaper, though I started with issues that gave me partial mild incontinence to begin with.
No.15187
>>15096
messing in the shower isn't that bad imo. But using the toilet in that case is understandable.
>>15103
congratulations!
What issues did you have?
btw everyone, my email is scott.higsby@yahoo.com if anyone would like to chat.
>>15103
No.15191
I'm going to be returning to college in the next week and I'm looking to try out an almost 24/7 regime for the three months I'm there to test the waters. My interactions with a certain lady friend of mine will keep me from going 100% 24/7 until she graduates at the end of this semester.
It will most likely be 90% diapered going at the first feeling of it but given there will still be that 10% where I have to hold it I don't really expect any repercussions to come of the 3 months I'll be doing it.
After summer I'll be trying a full 3 month stint for my last semester of my BA but again, it'll only be temporary as I go back home for the breaks between so hopefully 3 months won't be enough to really undo anything to worrisome levels. (I don't know if I'm quite ready to be diapered at home around parents. ^^;)
No.15193
>>15191
I know that feel with the parents. Hopefully in a few months, I will be out of the house, then it's 24/7 for me.
No.15222
>>15187
I've messed in the shower since then, it isn't that bad. It was just sort of a kneejerk reaction. I wasn't completely bowel incontinent yet at that time, so I felt it happening and sort of ran out. Still barely made it.
Now, I only really get a warning half of the time, and when I do it'll come out whenever I move anyway…
No.15227
>>15222
lol, if you get any sort of warning, probably best to stay in the shower. Don't want to go on the floor. Also, I'd dry off standing on something protective, like a disposable bedpad or rubber sheet. But I like the idea of having to be protected even when I'm not wearing a diaper.
If someone is really serious about being protected in the shower, they should get one of these.
For some reason I feel like one of these would make me feel less in control (in a way that I like). It's like, in addition to having to sit on the oversized training potty in case I have a poopy accident in the shower, I no longer get to just pee in the shower.
Other pic is me in a swim diaper, sort of related.
No.15234
>>8866
>Hospitals have to change diapers on incontinent people every two hours
And that is why I can never be in a hospital, I will have a rock hard dick and the worst case of blue balls ever.
Yes I know this post is from August
No.15235
Been 24/7 for a couple years. No control whatsoever. Love it. I don't think I could be potty trained again if I didnt.
No.15248
>>15234
>Yes I know this post is from August
Fun fact: if you're hooked up to a heart rate monitor and start jackin' it, it looks like you're having a heart attack.
No.15253
>>15234
so you have a rock hard dick 24/7?
No.15272
How do people deal with going home to family ? I've got my old room when I go home but changing is a nightmare because my door doesn't lock and nobody knocks.
No.15274
>>15272
how old are you? I have a locking door and my parents are fortunately at work during the day.
No.15275
>>15272
what about changing in the bathroom, or positioning yourself in such a way that the door is blocked when you're changing?
No.15276
>>15275
Bathroom is the way to go in a situation like this for sure. Mornings are particularly easy because you can mask any sounds with the noise of a shower running. I've had to deal with this myself when going back to my parent's for the holidays and stuff.
No.15277
>>15276
Not the one you were replying to but you just go 24/7 and your parents don't know? How do you deal with disposal?
No.15279
>>15277
I'm not 24/7 yet because I live with my parents, but if it's just for a few days, it wouldn't be too difficult as long as you wore a reasonably discreet diaper. Disposal would be difficult though, especially messes.
I just tie my diapers up in a plastic grocery bag and throw them in the bottom of the outside trash.
No.15327
>>15248
That is a fun fact. What if you're just really horny? And I assume this happened to you?
>>15253
I'm not 24/7 in fact I'm not even in any right now. I don't know if I ever will too.
No.15333
>>15277
Eh, they'd found out multiple times back when I was a teenager. They're mostly ambivalent with regards to everything (though my mom is much more openly accepting of it). I keep things discrete around them all the same. Don't go too thick, change promptly to avoid smell, etc. I live a few hundred miles away, so visiting them means having a backpack, which is usually where I keep used ones. I keep my clothes in a separate backpack :p
No.15337
Question about going 24/7 is it possible to maintain your control and sat diapered? Or does it usually happen? Like if I don't just simply wet when I feel, etc. I want to be diapered 24/7 but I'm thinks no I may have to intermingle "training panties" off and on till I'm ready for no control ever… Also is it possible to have bed wetting problems emerge but still have daytime control? I have been trained and never really had issues with that but I'd like to know what I might expect if I start it.
No.15345
>>15337
Yes. You'll only lose control if you train yourself to go at the slightest urge.
And it is possible to train yourself to wet the bed without having daytime problems.
No.15352
Hey I got a couple of questions for you 24/7 guys/gals out there. I've recently moved in with a few friends and finally have more consistent access to diapers (yay) and I've run into a few things I haven't been able to find answered elsewhere.
How do you guys handle sitting for longer periods of time? After a few hours I've found for whatever reason my tailbone and lower back get really fatigued while wearing for whatever reason. I guess it's kind of a weird issue and I'm not sure if it's a posture thing or just a matter of getting used to it.
Also, I've just discovered how great plastic pants are, even over disposable diapers. They help odor control, provide peace of mind for leaks and help with discreetness. However, I've found after wearing them all day my skin gets super sore, especially around the leg bands. They don't feel too tight when I put them on but I wonder if I need to go even a size bigger. How do you guys handle that kind of skin care?
No.15361
>>15352
as for the sitting problem, just change positions every few minutes! Or maybe your diaper isn't fitting right.
Plastic pants are great! And not having to worry as much about leaks is really important for helping to learn to lose control. The less you have to worry about leaks the better, until you're able to accept accidents like pic related.
As for the leg bands, I'd recommend getting a size up if they're too tight. The plastic panties that I usually wear have buttons, so I can take them on and off without having to remove my pants and shoes, like a taped diaper. So when it's hot, I can take them off.
Destitin is your friend. Diaper powder to keep from chafing is critical as well.
No.15363
>tfw you wake up every morning wet
:3
No.15393
>>15352
Sup anon, glad to hear you get to be padded more often now! The other anon answered you a bit, but I've been through the same things as you, so maybe I can offer a bit more clarity.
I used to experience the sitting thing back when I started too and so far as I can tell it's just your ass getting used to having an unusual amount of padding. If you've ever heard of someone's feet hurting when they first start wearing insoles, it's a similar sort of thing (At least to my best guess). After a few weeks of wearing to my desk job the pain pretty much disappeared, but it still happens when I wear something super thick like layered cloth diapers or tripling up or something.
With regards to plastic pants, the other anon's right, you should go a size up. It might seem like the pants are way too big at that point, but as long as there's a tight seal at the legs and it doesn't hurt you, that's all that matters. A plain onesie to go over it will help a ton in keeping the extra material in place and not arousing any suspicions (plus it helps with any smells too). Getting used to rings of soreness IS a thing, but it's not fun at all to do in the meantime. I had a period of work for a while where my thighs had outgrown the plastic pants I had and this started happening. Shit sucked until I could afford new ones, but it stopped hurting before they arrived. Still indents in the skin and some soreness when I removed them though. No bueno. Not much to do about it other than sleep it off, either. You can try powdering your legs a bit to give 'em some slide, but in my experience that wears off pretty quick. YMMV
No.15407
>>15363
I know what you mean.
>almost 2 weeks ago
>my big tells me from now on to drink a pint of water/juice/etc. before bed
>If I wake up, I have to wet my diaper and go back to sleep, no removing it until morning
>this morning
>slept through the night and wet without waking up
No.15420
>>15361
>>15393
Hey thanks for the responses, It's a whole new world for me getting to wear more often. I'm not quite at the point where I can wear 24/7 but I'm working my way there.
I have a few onesies and they are fantastic, so I have no problem with bigger plastic pants. So far the gary plastic pants have been the most comfy for me, so I'll probably order a few more pairs of those a size up.
My biggest concern is long term use of plastic pants, as my skin gets pretty red and tender when I take them off. I guess the redness does go away overnight. Does your skin build up a sort of tolerance or is it just a matter of using more cream?
No.15430
So I've been 24/7 close to 20 months now. The job contract I was on ended right before Christmas, and my boyfriend (who's also my Daddy) convinced me to try out being a "toddler" full-time. It's pretty much been a full month now, and I'm really loving it.
I lost my urinary continence a while ago, and for a while I've had hints that my fecal continence was going, but over the last month I've noticed it's really starting to go. 4 or 5 times this month I felt like I had to fart but I end up full-on messing. My boyfriend thinks it's adorable, and I kind of like the lack of control. I am a bit worried that I might not be able to get it back once it's gone.
My boyfriend is absolutely loving having me be his full-time "toddler". We're still figuring stuff out as we go, but I'm thinking we can maintain this sort of arrangement for a long time.
No.15457
>>15420
If you're talking about redness in your diaper area in general, yeah, that's a rash thing and cream helps. You do grow a tolerance as time goes on though! If you mean around your thighs, I wouldn't use cream there at all, as that shit can fuck up the plastic of the pants and cut the life down on them dramatically. You eventually get a tolerance to that too, but it's not a fun process.
Also, you might wanna try some plastic pants with more "padded" legs. I was using ones with hard-seamed leg-bands like the Gary ones for a while and when I got the softer ones it was a life-saver. I'm talking specifically these guys, but I know there's other brands/prints out there. http://www.babykins.com/store/adult-plastic-pants/kins-vinyl-pull-on-adult-diaper-cover-medium-weight/
No.15460
>>15430
In some ways it seems like you're living the dream, but in others it really doesn't seem like something I'd ever want to do. Would you mind sharing some details?
Like, what do you do when your Daddy's at work? Do you have to stay a toddler while he's out? How do you act when you have friends over? If marriage ever comes up, would that change anything about your toddler-mode intentions?
Messy accidents do sound like the cutest thing ever though. A panicked look and a hand on your butt, before trying to act natural. Glad everything is working out for you; it's fun to follow your adventures.
No.15494
>>15460
>In some ways it seems like you're living the dream, but in others it really doesn't seem like something I'd ever want to do. Would you mind sharing some details?
I'm definitely living the dream right now. I used to think I'd never be able to take things this far, but when you're with someone that encourages it the amount that my Daddy does it's pretty easy to get to this level.
Yeah, man. I'd love to share details. Is there anything specific you want to know?
>Like, what do you do when your Daddy's at work? Do you have to stay a toddler while he's out? How do you act when you have friends over? If marriage ever comes up, would that change anything about your toddler-mode intentions?
I've published two novels, and am working on more. My vanilla friends and my family think that I'm just making enough money from that to support myself fully. During the day when my Daddy's at work I'll spend an hour or two writing, do some chores around the house, go out with friends, etc.
There's no rule forcing me to stay in toddler mode 24/7. However, if I'm home alone I'll usually stay in little mode. When our kinky friends come over I just stay in toddler mode, but when vanilla people come over we are pretty stealthy about it. Of course I'm always diapered, but I'll act normally and I'll dress more adultish. I have a bunch of clothes that's pretty kiddish but most people wouldn't think twice about (ie. shirts with cartoons on them, cute socks, etc.).
We've discussed marriage a bunch of times. It'd probably just make us go more hardcore into the lifestyle. He loves having a little diapered guy, and I love having a Daddy.
>Messy accidents do sound like the cutest thing ever though. A panicked look and a hand on your butt, before trying to act natural. Glad everything is working out for you; it's fun to follow your adventures.
Nothing makes you feel littler than a messy accident. There's times where I'll mess a bit and not realize it, only to find out what happened during a diaper check. My Daddy absolutely loves it, and always showers me with praise for the progress I've made.
No.15545
so for those who've done the 27/4 thing, which brands of diaper do you prefer? I'm working my way towards 24/7 but I'm taking it slow to make sure I've got everything worked out.
Right now I'm thinking about getting cloth diapers for night use and disposables for the day, possibly covered with onesies and plastic pants.
anything you might recommend out of any of those categories?
No.15546
>>15545
same poster - I'm leaning towards the adult Superundies night pants for the cloth, but it's mainly because their design reminds me of the old Goodnites.
No.15549
Question for those who are currently 24/7: when you have messy accidents, how do you clean up when out in public? I'm a fan of messing, so I've done it a fair number of times, but I can never really get clean without either a ridiculous amount of work (that doesn't really make me feel as clean as I'd want to be) or a shower.
Obviously, neither of those are feasible when at work/out in public, so how do you deal with it?
>>15494
>4 or 5 times this month I felt like I had to fart but I end up full-on messing.
>Nothing makes you feel littler than a messy accident. There's times where I'll mess a bit and not realize it, only to find out what happened during a diaper check. My Daddy absolutely loves it, and always showers me with praise for the progress I've made.
Anon, you're adorable.
No.15556
Don't really know if this is the right place to post this but I've got a problem and maybe some of you can help.
I can't keep my butt clean. I poop in the toilet, wipe till I'm clean, and some time later go back to the bathroom to wipe again and the TP comes out dirty. I don't do the 24/7 thing, very rarely mess, and I don't eat greasy foods so I don't know why this is happening. It was a problem when I was younger but the poop stained undies stopped when I quit falling for itches inside the buttcrack, I just assumed problem of the dirty bum had stopped too.
No.15559
>>15556
Swap to wet (baby) wipes or use a small bidet that attaches to a toilet.
No.15566
>>15549
>when you have messy accidents, how do you clean up when out in public?
For me it really boils down to two things. The first is to try your best to not sit after you've messed, as this really squishes it against you, which will make it harder to clean yourself. The second thing is to carry baby wipes with you.
These two things make it relatively pretty easy for me to clean myself if I mess when I'm out of the house.
>Anon, you're adorable.
Thanks! :D
No.15585
>>15549
Ahhh, such a cute picture. Are you the artist, anon? or who else? Reverse image search didn't bring up anything.
No.15586
>>15585
That's Ludis Luteo. He's got a FurAffinity account, but he seems to post most of his new stuff and sketches to Twitter first. It's mostly furry, but it's damned cute regardless. Link:
https://twitter.com/ludisluteo
No.15622
>>15191
Same poster here. Finally made it back to college and instantly diapered up. It's been way too long since I felt this comfortable padding between my legs. Even if I can't go full 24/7 quite yet it feels so good to be back!
No.15633
>>15556
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEAijw2GEts
they sell flushable moist wipes in the toilet paper section. dont use baby wipes you will screw up your plumbing
No.15652
>spent entire weekend diapered while on a trip
>got home wrecked late last night, cleaned myself up, put on a fresh diaper and went to bed
>woke up wet
I feel really little when I sleep through the night to discover a soggy butt in the morning. I wish it happened more often than when I go to bed drunk or extremely tired though, but I'm working towards that.
No.15759
>>15407
I did it with hypno, and it only works if I'm diapered. I did mess once too, but that was sleep deprivation + constipation.
I would like to know what diapers are good for bedwetting. I would prefer something with tabs that refasten like some cloth-likes have. Tranquility's smartcore didn't hold up today on my side, so I'd like to try something else.
No.15806
>>15759
I suppose it kind of depends on your output.
I'm safe to wear tena maxi to bed. Abena m4 are a good one if you need more absorbtion but don't want to spend a lot on ab-print diapers. Both use a double-tape system so you can refasten them.
No.15850
>>15549
Diet plays into it a lot I think. Poor that's more firm tends to just sit in your diaper and generally doesn't leave much behind. It clumps up so you can just dump it into the toilet, clean up with some wipes and you're g2g for a fresh diaper. It's been a while since I've messed but I could be wrong.
No.15851
No.15863
>>15806
I ordered some Tena Flex Super in size small. The mediums were a bit too big on me, but absorbed well.
No.15915
I know the subject of shaving one's pubes has been mentioned in here before, and that it's generally a good idea for diaper wearing.
My question is what's the best way to stay smooth down there?
I don't want to do lasering and I've never tried any hair removal products like Neet. Are those practical? Are there any side effects?
I've only tried shaving my crotch a couple times before and found it to be generally uncomfortable. Is there something else I need to be doing down there, or a technique? Also, should I put some powder on my crotch afterwards to prevent chafing?
Also, if you shave your crotch do you end up having to go a lot farther and shave most of your body hair?
I've got pretty hairy legs although my stomach and chest are mostly bare, so shaving my crotch alone might be kinda weird if I left the hair on my legs, but I don't know if I want to go all the way and shave my legs on a regular basis either. Seems like too much hassle.
No.15935
>>15915
I usually just shave mine in the shower, the water helps with keeping the skin from drying out and possible nicking yourself.
I go with the grain and then shave against to get it smoother, I also get the gooch, upper thigh, and balls.
With the gooch it might require you to be somewhat flexible, I usually lift one leg up some and hold it with my elbow while shaving the area, then switching legs when I feel I've gotten it well enough.
The balls can be difficult but with some practice it isn't bad. Either grab the nut and get the skin around it taught so you reduce chance of cutting, or stretch the sack out to make a relatively smooth surface. A light touch is recommended on those haha. (I do all of this laying down in the shower.)
Once you're done I take some soap or shampoo or lotion and clean the whole area, that helps bumps from forming and cleans off any hair that may want to stick around while also letting you see if you missed some spots.
I leave my legs fully haired as it doesn't really matter to me if they're shaved or not. I do however shave my stomach and chest.
The one thing I have trouble doing is shaving the butt or asshole if someone has some tips for that.
No.15981
Hey, 24/7 people. Been wearing diapers to bed for 3-4 months (with breaks where I ran out/lost steam or whatever), and I've finally found myself able to relax and let go, in just one position (lying on my stomach) but still, progress is progress. the problem is that A) I try to avoid sleeping on my stomach because it's no good for my back and B) it seems to me that the diaper is at less risk of a press leak if I'm not lying on the area that's getting soaked.
Suggestions?
No.16063
So I'm not quite 24/7 (I can't quite work up the courage to go to classes while wearing since I only stock ABU Space/Simple and those are thick as fuck so concealing them seems out of the question) but I wear for ~ 10-14 hours a day.
It's gotten to the point where this has kinda gone from being fetishy to more just "Oh I'm back in my room, I guess it's diaper time". I find myself wetting with very little effort (thought the mental notification is still very much there at least when I'm sitting down in my chair).
I'm not exactly really looking to lose control entirely and NEED THEM outside of my room but I certainly make no effort to hold whatsoever when I'm diapered.
My question for you guys is: If I continue on this daily process of wearing approximately half or more of the day (counting sleeping it's more like 18+ hours diapered) could I potentially run into problems with holding eventually or should I be okay because there are still those 6-8 hours that I actually do hold it.
No.16070
>>16063
You'll be okay because of the undiapered time.
Also, I'd advise getting something like tena maxi to try wearing to class. They're obviously not as absorbent as space, but they can hold a couple of wettings easily while being fairly discreet.
Not saying you should use them to go 24/7, just to give yourself the experience without making it too obvious.
No.16086
>>15556
Get a $30 toilet bidet off amazon
No.16179
>>15981
Keep practicing. It can take a pretty decent while to wet in a position that works, but once you do, just shift into that position and wet when you wake up at night. After a while you should start wetting without input regardless of position.
No.16523
So I'm not a 24/7 wearer but wasn't really sure where else to put this. I'm a half on/off user. When I'm alone after college is done for the day I usually diaper.
I've recently run into something a bit interesting. It seems that while I'm not diapered I have no problems holding it in. However the second that I diaper up it I find it stupidly easy to wet. Half the time it winds up that I barely even have mental note of having to go, the other time I have to give very little attention to it to get the flow going to to speak.
Is it actually possible to achieve a sort of conditional incontinence where I reach a point that I wet without knowing only while diapered and if so, could this potentially bleed over into the undiapered times if I keep at the rate I'm going?
No.16525
>>16523
What you're experiencing is pretty much what most people report.
As far as accidents while undiapered though I've seen people claim they forgot they weren't diapered, let out a bit then stopped themselves from doing more.
No.16535
>>15915
>>15935
I would like to be shaved down there, but Im not sure I would be ready to take that leap, but I would like to at least cut down on the amount of hair down there. Does semi aggressive trimming and pruning help very much?
No.16554
>>16535
Not as much as just fully shaving, but the less hair the better.
Also >Im not sure I would be ready to take that leap
You do know if you dont like it, it grows back right?
No.16576
>>16523
You're just diaper trained. This happens to anyone if they wear diapers a lot. You won't lose any normal control as long as you spend a few hours a day not diapered.
It is POSSIBLE that something could happen, like if you're daydreaming or even asleep and dream of being in diapers, but I doubt it will be a serious concern.
>>16535
Better than having a forest, but it will still be a pain to clean, especially a mess. Much less effort to just keep it shaved.
No.16650
>>16525
>>16576
Well that's reassuring. I seem to have the best of both worlds at this point. I don't think I'm quite prepared to be dependent. ^^;
No.16653
> tfw wet at night because of partial incontinence
I don't know how to feel. Started when I was 15, 19 now. For the past 4 years, I've had so many mixed feelings about my bedwetting.
No.16656
>>16653
I assume since you're here on this board that you're at least somewhat into ABDL, right? Do you wear diapers to bed to deal with your bedwetting? If not, how do you manage it? What kind of mixed feelings were/are you experiencing? Shame? Excitement? Hopelessness?
Give us a little more to work with Anon. Perhaps one of us can help you sort out your feelings.
No.16662
Do you guys have any tips on how to completely kill my boner/urges when diapered? I've tried doing 24/7 so many times and it always gets ruined because either my dick gets hard and makes it super uncomfortable, or I end up masturbating and end up feeling grossed out afterwards. I really really want to do this, but that is preventing it.
No.16663
>>16656
> I assume since you're here on this board that you're at least somewhat into ABDL, right?
Yes, you would be right. When I first got back into wearing diapers, I had to wear 24/7 for an entire week. I spent a ton of time masturbating in my diapers and this began to build to my attraction of them.
> Do you wear diapers to bed to deal with your bedwetting?
Yeah, it was either diapers or a catheter. As a scared 15 year old, I chose diapers and haven't turned back. If you're wondering why I have to wear diapers, well I got a bad bladder infection at the age of 15.
> What kind of mixed feelings were/are you experiencing?
Fear, shame, arousal, childishness, weakness. The feelings of childhood and arousal are amazing, it's just I feel really weak when I wear diapers.
No.16666
>>16663
You poor little thing; sounds like the whole situation has really been out of your control. It's important to remember, almost everyone has problems when it comes to living a "normal" life. For some people, this won't even warrant a change in how they go about doing things day-to-day. For others, it could require them to completely rework their understanding of "normal."
You're a little in the middle, little Anon. If you don't wear diapers to bed you'll be wet in the morning, so to you, diapers at night are simply going to have to be normal. It's not weakness on your part, or anything you've failed at. The vicissitudes of life brought this upon you, and in the end the only thing that really changed is that you gained a lovely little fetish along with your need for nighttime diapers.
Make it normal. Whenever you visit friends or family, bring your diapers and make it the most casual thing in the world. If people ask, so what? Tell them that you need them, and laugh it off as simply being the way things are. Most people are so caught up in their own ideals of normality that they may even look at you in admiration for being so accepting. You can just laugh up your sleeve all the while, enjoying your diaper time.
That's my take on it, anyway. Hopefully that wasn't to much rambling for ya. As a followup on the questions: What kind of diapers are you wearing? If you're wearing something flimsy that can't absorb even a teacup's worth of liquid, perhaps some thicker diapers might help you get more comfortable with wearing at night?
No.16674
>>16666
> You poor little thing; sounds like the whole situation has really been out of your control.
That's one way to put it. :(
The circumstances which led to me getting a bladder infection are unfortunate at best. It was a tough time for me to go through.
> You're a little in the middle, little Anon
Aww, I appreciate being called little. I love being treated like a child. :)
> It's not weakness on your part, or anything you've failed at. The vicissitudes of life brought this upon you, and in the end the only thing that really changed is that you gained a lovely little fetish along with your need for nighttime diapers.
Fair enough. I'll try to look at the positives.
> Whenever you visit friends or family
I don't want my friends to know I wear, but my family does. I still live at home with my parents and young brother and they both know I wear. Hell, my lil bro is a bedwetter too, just less frequent than me.
> What kind of diapers are you wearing?
I've gotten some diapers from ABU before, but they're a bit expensive for what I can afford. So usually, I wear cloth diapers with plastic pants.
No.16675
>>16666
> You poor little thing; sounds like the whole situation has really been out of your control.
That's one way to put it. :(
The circumstances which led to me getting a bladder infection are unfortunate at best. It was a tough time for me to go through.
> You're a little in the middle, little Anon
Aww, I appreciate being called little. I love being treated like a child. :)
> It's not weakness on your part, or anything you've failed at. The vicissitudes of life brought this upon you, and in the end the only thing that really changed is that you gained a lovely little fetish along with your need for nighttime diapers.
Fair enough. I'll try to look at the positives.
> Whenever you visit friends or family
I don't want my friends to know I wear, but my family does. I still live at home with my parents and young brother and they both know I wear. Hell, my lil bro is a bedwetter too, just less frequent than me.
> What kind of diapers are you wearing?
I've gotten some diapers from ABU before, but they're a bit expensive for what I can afford. So usually, I wear cloth diapers with plastic pants.
No.16677
>>16675
>The circumstances which led to me getting a bladder infection are unfortunate at best. It was a tough time for me to go through.
Don't you hesitate to talk about it if you feel like it! Bottling up about something that people want to offer comfort or advice for will only lead to misery in the long run. Take it from someone who's seen things like this play out more than once.
>Aww, I appreciate being called little. I love being treated like a child. :)
No problem, little one~ Everyone needs a warm embrace and some gentle head scratches now and then. If you're scared and feeling weak, then there's nothing wrong with getting help from someone bigger than you, is there?
>Fair enough. I'll try to look at the positives.
Not to be too rough with you, but I actually think this is entirely the wrong way of thinking about it. You're not some forsaken thing, trying to find pieces of happiness in a life of misery. You've got a condition, it's nothing you can prevent, and you've got a way to deal with it. Not only that, but your method of dealing with it is fun for you! Confidence conquers shame, little Anon. You 'have' to wear diapers to bed. Own that fact as a part of yourself. And on that note…
>I don't want my friends to know I wear
The situation is different for everyone, but are these friends actually friends of yours? Good people, who have stood by you through troubles in the past? If that is the case, I would strongly encourage you to confide in them. Bedwetting is not some dark secret that will end relationships; just a change in your life that's causing you doubt and fear. If they're really your friends, they'll want to comfort you before anything else.
>I've gotten some diapers from ABU before, but they're a bit expensive for what I can afford
ABU stuff is adorable and fantastic, but if you're wearing every night you'll need something cheaper (barring unlimited funds.) Tykables Overnights are wonderful and super cute, with unparalleled price-to-capacity. Abena has the class M4 of course, at an even more agreeable price. I've also heard quite a bit about ComfiDry 24/7s when it comes to cheap yet high-capacity diapers.
No.16678
>>16677
> Don't you hesitate to talk about it if you feel like it!
It's a really long story and just saying, the friends I currently have are ones I met after that bad period of my life. I have problems getting super close to people and as a result, I'm not that close with my friends.
> If you're scared and feeling weak, then there's nothing wrong with getting help from someone bigger than you, is there?
Nope, nothing wrong. I remember four years ago when I had a sever panic attack my big brother held me and on the car-ride to the hospital, I fell asleep in his arms. I also really like cuddling with my lil brother. :)
No.16681
>>16653
I feel you. I was bedwetting since I was 11(and it only stopped the first time when I was 9), and it was a big factor in deciding to go 24/7 for me.
Diapers are just a natural part of my life and it made the transition easy. No reason to feel conflicted about it.
No.16696
No.16730
>>16696
23. Why do you ask?
No.16738
>haven't worn diapers in months
>was never close to 24/7 or incon
>had a weird dream where everyone was peeing in the air
>wake up completely soaked
That's literally never happened before
No.16754
>>16730
I was just curious.
>>16738
It's a sign, Anon! Diapers are calling for ya.
No.16755
>>16738
Lucky. Peeing in a dream hasn't caused a wet bed for me since I was 4 or 5.
No.16761
>>16754
>>16755
It was extremely disturbing
If it happened when I was trying to get it to happen, that would be one thing. This happened like out of no where months later
No.16762
>didnt even notice that i wet my diaper so much while sitting down the front and my pants and top of my shirt got wet
sigh…
No.16780
>>16762
Happened to me last night, I was sitting there peeing and when I finished it had leaked out the sides and I noticed my PJ's were wet.
No.16791
>>16762
>>16780
Happens to me all the time. I don't play dota anymore because of it.
No.16800
>>1169
I always fantasize about being incontinent but I'll probably never seriously attempt to do it. I wish there was a more professional guide on the drawbacks and stuff in the way that trannies talk about their stuff and so on.
No.16805
>>16800
I'm only partially incontinent and it's not what you think. For a short time, I could barely control my pee and it SUCKED! As a 14-15 year old, it felt like my life was ending lol
No.16806
>>16800
I'm only partially incontinent and it's not what you think. For a short time, I could barely control my pee and it SUCKED! As a 14-15 year old, it felt like my life was ending lol
No.16808
>>16806
You're saying I really shouldn't do it?
No.16809
>>16808
I don't know you personally or your living conditions. I can get away with being partially incontinent because I still live at home while attending college. And by this point, my only problem is bedwetting.
No.16811
>>16809
Well while you're talking me about it; you said it's not what I think it is; well what is it? What's it actually like?
No.16817
>>16811
Not having the ability to control your own bladder becomes tiring, sometimes exhausting. You constantly worry about the next time you will go and if someone will notice. Again, remember this was back when I was a young teenager and wasn't really into diapers.
Plus all the treatments I had to go for took a tole on the remaining confidence I had. The most humiliating thing to date were going in to the hospital for bladder exercises.
No.16822
>>16817
Not to take away from how shitty you got it, but you were fighting the fact that you were incontinent, most of the anons here want to embrace it.
No.16840
>>16817
Can you tell me what those bladder exercises were like and why you were so embarassed of them?
No.16841
>>16817
and what other treatments took away your confidence? I just don't understand why they would affect your confidence.
No.16846
>>16840
>>16841
The bladder exercises were really embarrassing because I essentially had to hold my pee in as long as I can until I couldn't go anymore. Doctors said they wanted me to do this so they could test how strong my bladder was. More than once, I ended up peeing myself in front of the doctors….
I mean, there were other exercises I did which weren't bad, but I still felt like a little child. That feeling really increased when I accidentally went pee in the hospital pool. Also made the doctors realize how little control I had of my bladder at that time…
No.16847
>>16846
I sort of would like that to happen to me though. I'm not a teenager holding onto my maturity; I'm a grown man who wants to be a baby.
No.16849
>>16847
Then go for it. If you're a grown man and you don't mind dealing with being incontinent, you're free to make that choice. You'd probably like it since it'll be a choice.
No.16850
No.16852
>>16850
lol I will admit even back then I did like having my diaper changed. Since I was pretty bored and only brought my DS, I would often rub myself and cum in my diapers. This is probably the earliest point I can trace where my attraction of diapers started to form.
No.16853
>>16852
So you were a teenager and your mom still changed you?
And you seem to be saying you'd rub yourself till you cummed when you were getting changed, so correct if I'm mishearing you.
No.16855
>>16853
No, I did not cum while I was about to be changed. When I was alone wearing, I'd cum in my diapers because boredom and curiosity.
As for the changings, no I was changed at the hospital because the staff didn't trust me to change myself(there were a couple times I wet and told no one which was how my infection started). My parents only changed my twice: once to show me how to change a cloth diaper and the other when I had messed myself and had trouble getting myself cleaned up.
No.16856
>>16855
so did you switch to cloth because its better? How did you get into cloth diapers? do you wear them now? What do you think about them?
maybe this conversation would be better if we took it to skype or kik
No.16857
>>16856
my skype is luke.d32.
No.17060
>>16761
>>16738
>spent a week in diapers
>not one bedwetting
Oh, okay.
No.17121
>>16855
Are you that guy from the thread on /cb/ that said he had a crush on his caretaker that was helping him fix is bladder?
No.17131
No.17192
College wearer here. I've posted before how I'm diapered ~18 hours a day. Things have been getting progressively easier to wet over the last few weeks.
I have noticed something strange however in the past week. Things seem to be at the point where I realize that I'm wetting btu forget shortly after having gone and before I even realize I'm sitting in a full ABU Simple surprised that it's actually full. I can't even begin to recall when I wet or how many times I wet.
I know that this is apparently all just "part of being diaper trained" but I figured it'd be worthy of posting.
No.17193
Hey so I've been 24/7 (and truly diaper-dependent / incontinent both #1 and #2) for probably about 4 months now, going strong and doing fine…however, I live in the north where it's been the winter for pretty much this entire time and it will continue to be such for a while.
In April I'm planning on traveling to the Atlanta area for about 2 weeks, where it will be very humid/hot/rainy as a very sharp contrast to what I'm dealing with now, and it will the first time I've ever been diaper-dependent while needing to wear shorts, first time during the 24/7 while needing to deal with heat too. So I'll need to adjust to keeping it safe under less layered clothing.
Any recommendations? I tend to need higher capacity and stuff that can last for many many wettings without a change. I was going to go with Tena Slip Maxi as that's lightweight but still high capacity, but xpmedical seems to have just recently exhausted their stock of them. Though if anyone knows of anywhere where I can still get those at a reasonable price let me know! I also was told by someone that cloth-like backing would be better in that sort of weather, but I'm worried about leaks due to my staying in diapers for long periods of time if that's what I use.
No.17196
>>17193
I hate to break it to you, but it's not going to be comfortable. Coming from a fellow northerner who moved to Cali for a few years, humidity and heat take some acclimation for most, even without diapers. *With* them it can get pretty uncomfy at really hot points. Considering you're going in spring, however, I would really just stick with what you wear normally. Cloth-covered will give you some noticeable help in the air circulation department, but you WILL need to change them more often and they WILL be way the fuck smellier. Seriously, the pee smell is beyond noticeable with cloth-like in combination with a hot day making you sweat. Plastic diapers are a lot better at hiding smells, plus you can muffle any noise and mask smells more with a pair of briefs or plastic pants (only advise the latter if you're gonna be around AC'd buildings), even if they do make you sweat a bit more, but it's a choice you'll have to make between comfort/more changes/more noticeable and confidence/normal changes/concealment.
All that said, if you're set on cloth-like, Tenas are probably the way to go. Only other diaper of note that's decent would be M/L4 Abenas, but those are a bit poofier. I always wore jeans despite the heat, so never had much problem with bulk, but if you're looking to conceal, stick to the Tenas.
No.17199
>>17193
A good alternative to the tena is the ID slip it is basically the same in very department, but I would recommend the plastic backed version.
In addition consider wearing a onesie, it will help vastly with concealment and reducing noise.
Also instead of plastic pants go rubber they make it literally impossible to smell anything short of a really bad messy diaper, and do an amazing job stopping leaks, but they are heavier, and more expensive. But in my experience the durability makes it worth it. (1 year going strong)
No.17200
>>17199
Agreed on most points. My setup for work in CA was diaper + stuffer, plastic pants, and a onesie underneath jeans and a shirt. I tried rubber for a while and, while they did do a BIT better at masking smells, the increase in temp was too much for me to handle. I still use the rubber pants occasionally, but more for heavy leaking play than practical uses.
No.17211
>>17200
Rubber is more a preference type thing. If you really want some extra protection with good air flow then go PUL cover with a cloth outer. (Basically those covers you see in the Japanese vids)
No.17215
>>17193
What is it like being incontinent for #2? If I wanted to be like that, what should I know? what do you have to worry about?
also, do you ever tell anyone about it?
No.17312
>>17060
>visit parents
>no diaper
>wake up wet
Help me
No.17314
>>17312
You done did it backwards; Needing to wear padding in order to have semblance of continence.
No.17315
Tell me, what does it feel like to involuntarily poop your diapers? Is there really any aspect of control left in the act, or does your butt just release it without you knowing it's happening?
No.17317
>>17314
I don't understand what's going on. Like much more so now than a few weeks ago, I suddenly have to pee. There's no buildup or anything, it just goes from 0 to 100 from "I don't have to pee at all" to "oh god, I have to find a bathroom NOW"
No.17318
>>17196
>>17199
>>17200
>>17211
Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'll definitely try out some of these in the next month before I go, to see what I like the most and hopefully all goes well. I'm glad to know the ID slip is similar to tena slip maxi since I can get those easily.
I'll might be trying different onesies and plastic/rubber pants too, if anyone has recommendations for specific brands of those that'd be cool!
>>17215
I've actually had bowel issues to some extent my whole life (probably why I even have this fetish) before I started wearing diapers and worsening my incontinence on purpose for fetish reasons, so in a way it's hard for me to know what it's like for someone who's never experienced that at all.
Before I went 24/7 in diapers I would be careful about when/where I ate, to make sure I would always have easy access to be able to run to a bathroom and stuff, I would make sure to get to know where the closest bathrooms were before I did anything, everywhere I went. Now in a way it's almost less stressful, because I actually have protection (except now _every_ time I go is an "accident" rather than ever making it). For that reason I imagine my transition was far easier than for most.
Cleanup is the biggest issue, in public it is 500x harder than if you have access to a shower at home. You have to worry about smell and people noticing you've gone to a far greater extent than if you're only urinary incontinent too. You always need wipes/good enough diapers to hold poop on you, and to just be prepared for it to happen at literally any time. You can't stay in a messy diaper as long as a wet diaper without the smell being obvious and without potential damage to skin being more likely. You can still do it (I sit in my own shit all day when I'm home alone a lot) but it is a lot more dangerous and difficult to deal with than with just a wet diaper.
Also yeah I tell people when it makes sense. I would tell my professors my bathroom issues so they'd know why I abruptly left the room sometimes, my family obviously knew (and I've told some of my family about going full on incontinent on purpose, as a warning for whenever I visit them, though only the ones I knew would take it well). So I guess it's not really that weird for me to tell others about it, I'm just used to it being a fact of my life that I tell people when relevant, now it's just more extreme, and there's the whole fetish side to it. If I trust someone I'll let them know about the fetish side maybe, if I don't I won't.
…but turning it more extreme and applying my diaper fetish to it has made me feel better about it than ever~! It was one of the best choices I've made I think, it's made me so happy…but I would NOT recommend it to 99.999% of people, you have to REALLY be into it and ready to deal with it. I was only ready because I sort of knew what I was getting into, but if you don't, try it out first and see how you'd feel in your daily life if you truly had no control, easing yourself there is probably the best way to go I think.
>>17315
I personally can still feel it when I go, but I can't tell that I have to go until like a minute before I involuntarily mess at best usually. I've reconditioned myself to not be able to hold it anymore, but in the past it was pretty much the same except I sometimes could hold it for a short while before messing.
I know there are other people who say that they don't even notice/feel that they're going when they do, maybe I'll get to that point someday too.
No.17321
>>17318
>You can't stay in a messy diaper as long as a wet diaper without the smell being obvious and without potential damage to skin being more likely.
How long can you stay in either diaper before the smell becomes obvious?
>I sit in my own shit all day when I'm home alone a lot
That's not one of my hobbies personally. lol
>Also yeah I tell people when it makes sense. I would tell my professors my bathroom issues so they'd know why I abruptly left the room sometimes, my family obviously knew (and I've told some of my family about going full on incontinent on purpose, as a warning for whenever I visit them, though only the ones I knew would take it well). So I guess it's not really that weird for me to tell others about it, I'm just used to it being a fact of my life that I tell people when relevant, now it's just more extreme, and there's the whole fetish side to it. If I trust someone I'll let them know about the fetish side maybe, if I don't I won't.
I'll keep all of this in mind.
>…but turning it more extreme and applying my diaper fetish to it has made me feel better about it than ever~! It was one of the best choices I've made I think, it's made me so happy…but I would NOT recommend it to 99.999% of people, you have to REALLY be into it and ready to deal with it. I was only ready because I sort of knew what I was getting into, but if you don't, try it out first and see how you'd feel in your daily life if you truly had no control, easing yourself there is probably the best way to go I think.
That's really good man. I'm happy for you.
How do I try it out? Do you mean wear diapers 24/7 and start messing whenever i get the urge?
No.17322
>>17318
>I personally can still feel it when I go, but I can't tell that I have to go until like a minute before I involuntarily mess at best usually.
So you feel that you need to go before your body starts going?
No.17344
>>17318
I keep thinking of more questions.
I was talking to a friend about this and he brought up waste deodorizers. Have you tried those? What do they do? Which brand works the best?
The thing I worry about a lot is that I spend a lot of time laying on my bed on my side and I sleep on my side. Do you think that will be a big problem if I became bladder incontinent?
Also you say
> Before I went 24/7 in diapers I would be careful about when/where I ate
Did you defecate whenever you ate?
No.17347
>>17321
>How long can you stay in either diaper before the smell becomes obvious?
Depends on the diaper, what you ate/drank and how hydrated you are. I've honestly been fine in 24 hours in a wet diaper before (it was really pushing it though probably), but sometimes it only takes 8 hours for it to be really noticeable (or leaky). Probably even sooner depending on you/your diapers/your drinking habits. Really just best to test it out yourself and see.
A soiled diaper varies too but is sometimes noticeable like right away on the other hand. If I'm somewhere where people are around in close proximity I will try to change right away if possible.
>How do I try it out? Do you mean wear diapers 24/7 and start messing whenever i get the urge?
Yes, though your body might have a hard time acclimating to eliminating waste when in unfamiliar environments, it's important to still know what it feels like to get a sense of how you can handle it before you make it a thing you actually have 0 control over. Gradually transitioning into it is the best way to go.
>>17322
>So you feel that you need to go before your body starts going?
"at best", like I said. Sometimes I can't feel that I need to go until a second, or right until I AM going. Usually it's more in the "few seconds before going" range.
This is just my own incontinence though, which was actually originally caused by wide-encompassing sensory problems that include having a very poor sense of when I need to go, I'm not sure how it'd feel to someone who doesn't have that. If you didn't have that to begin with I imagine your experience would be completely different actually.
>>17344
>I was talking to a friend about this and he brought up waste deodorizers. Have you tried those? What do they do? Which brand works the best?
It is on my list of things to try, but I haven't tried them yet, I really probably should since it'd make me feel a lot freer for sure.
>The thing I worry about a lot with wanting to be incontinent is that I spend a lot of time laying on my bed on my side and I sleep on my side. Do you think that will be a big problem if I became bladder incontinent?
I actually do have problems with sleeping or laying on my side and then finding the bed wet often even with diapers I have no leak problems with otherwise, I've changed my habits for how I position myself a bit with that because of that…I'd like to know if there are ways anyone else deals with that issue actually. I imagine nice plastic/rubber pants probably help significantly.
,>Did you defecate whenever you ate?
No, I just kind of had to learn the best guess of internal rhythms I could since I couldn't feel them myself. So like if I was going to go to a long concert or something or anything where I could not easily just jump up to leave I would try not to eat too much a few hours before it. Things like that
No.17358
>>17347
>Yes, though your body might have a hard time acclimating to eliminating waste when in unfamiliar environments, it's important to still know what it feels like to get a sense of how you can handle it before you make it a thing you actually have 0 control over. Gradually transitioning into it is the best way to go.
I'll try to write this down and remember this stuff. It's really helpful.
>I actually do have problems with sleeping or laying on my side and then finding the bed wet often even with diapers I have no leak problems with otherwise, I've changed my habits for how I position myself a bit with that because of that…I'd like to know if there are ways anyone else deals with that issue actually. I imagine nice plastic/rubber pants probably help significantly.
I learned about this stuff a while back and I still mean to try it
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABDL/comments/2nu9i2/japanese_diaper_origami_stuffer_folding_techniques/
>No, I just kind of had to learn the best guess of internal rhythms I could since I couldn't feel them myself. So like if I was going to go to a long concert or something or anything where I could not easily just jump up to leave I would try not to eat too much a few hours before it. Things like that
That sounds a slightly off putting. I think I'd be fine as long as I didn't have to make major changes to my diet. Learning the internal rhythms sounds a little interesting.
Hey. We're having this great convo and I'm learning a lot. May i add you on skype or something?
No.17388
People who went 24/7 before going on the dating scene, what advice do you have for people doing the same?
No.17402
>>17388
It makes things easier or harder depending on where you look.
Strangely enough most people didn't really mind it, even outside the ABDL scene, but it definitely was an issue raised if things didn't work out. Your chances are still a lot better inside the scene, I'd bet, but it is far from impossible to find someone for whom it isn't their fetish.
I should mention I'm not speaking from a male perspective, so it might be harder for guys, if you are one, but I imagine most of the problems are the same.
No.17569
>Be daily part time wearer
>Only go 24 hours on Saturday and Sunday
>Be out partying with friends last night and get drunk
>Have accident about halfway through the night
>Wind up making it to bathroom and thank the gods that I was wearing dark pants
>Friends never find out
I think that I might be wearing too much… I've never pissed myself while drunk. ._.
No.17598
>>17569
I'd be both terrified and so happy to have that situation happen. I'm not trying to go all 24/7 incon or anything but having an accident from time to time would get me hot.
I've never once pissed myself while drunk, worse I've ever done is piss in someone's locker while blacked out thinking it was the bathroom.
No.17629
Gave up on 24/7, i was literally pissing my money away…
No.17711
Speaking of this
>>17629
I've been considering going 24/7 but have been holding off until I receive my tax returns. I have been looking at the affordability of the whole deal, and it seems cloth diapers might be the best choice.
Can anyone vouch for this? Or provide some advice in terms of what to look for etc?
No.17929
can I make a request for a 24/7 person who's pretty far down the rabbit hole? I'm talking like 6months-1 year in. If you get a chance, could you try to stop yourself messing/wetting and describe the results?
No.17982
>>17929
I'm seven months in, and I also am the owner/author of https://workingclassabdl.wordpress.com/
I may try this for a day once I'm for sure past the point of no return. But part of me feels like even though I've progressed so far. A day without diapers would spoil progress.
I think I would be able to do my best, with some wetting and a silly large increase in needing to pee every 10 minutes.
I remember when I had worn diapers for four to nearly five months straight as a older teen and had to stop due to $$$ . It took three weeks to get my bladder back into a normal urgency. I was peeing every 20 minutes. It was hard.
At night I would wake up every thirty minutes to an hour. It was pretty hard to sleep.
But after three weeks I was back to norm.
I do believe I lost some bladder capacity though. I never felt like I was able to hold it for forever like I had once been able to.
I shudder to think what my true capacity will be like after a year.
No.17995
>>16554
yeah, I get that, but what if my brother sees me with no pubes., or familly, etc? it only takes one time for people to start asking questions…
No.17996
>>17995
what kind of weird situation would you be naked in front of your brother/family lol!
Seriously.
No.18000
>>17995
Manscaping is a thing anon, plenty of people shave fully, it's a courtesy thing for your partner as well…you don't want to go down on a female and have all this hair in your mouth do you? I doubt they'd want that either. It also shows good hygiene and that you care about your body, which is a turn on for lots of people.
Also: >>17996 what he said.
No.18016
>Few months of mostly 24/7 bedwetting
>Had hypno done to only wet bed when diapered
>Now I'm wearing every night, and drinking as much liquid as a I can before bed
>Haven't lost bladder control since I only wet when I'm as full as can be
>Decided Northshore Supreme is favorite
I like how it crinkles and absorbs, swells well too. Doesn't seems to sag like others. I also liked the Tykables too, but I like this more.