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We're done with this gay "mental" bullshit Anonymous 03/08/16 (Tue) 00:40:04 No.17362

YOU WILL BE INCONTINENT NOW WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

Does anyone have any experience with forced, artificial incontinence via foreign object (catheters, stents, hollow butt plugs)? I'm considering trying it, but I have a few questions:

1: Sizing. Possibly the most important question. I don't know anything about the sizing systems used for these objects, and I don't know how big an insert has to be before it will allow for unobstructed voiding. I assume it's not much for #1, but for #2 it's probably a completely different story.

So: I'm a relative normalfag that has never stuck anything up their dick before, and as such my urethra is roughly as wide as the tip of a fairly sharp, nonmechanical pencil. I'm also an uncompromising dom in the sack, and I'm so tight back there that I can hardly get 1 finger in, with lube. Given this information, what sizes should I start out with, and what sizes should I work up to in order to achieve incontinence?

2. Duration. I know that you can't leave a catheter in for too long or you risk developing a UTI. However, I have no idea how long exactly it is that one can safely leave it in, nor do I know if the same types of temporal risks extend to stents, plugs, or any other inserts.

I'm also relatively certain that continuous, long-term use of incontinence inserts will lead to genuine incontinence after a certain period of time. "'Buh anon, you can't become incontenent'" Shut the fuck up, muscular atrophy is a thing. Sure you won't develop the irreparable nerve conditions that prevent certain people from potty training, but after a long enough time of disuse your bladder and bowel muscles will weaken to the point that you are subject to the same physical inability to hold it that every vagina turd experiences, until you actively work hard to retrain yourself again. But I have no idea how long this process takes. So I'm asking if anyone has an educated guess as to exactly how long it would take to develop effects that last beyond the removal of the objects.

3. Tips and Tricks. Any advice on smooth insertion/minimizing aches/smooth removal? Any homemade maguffins you'd like to share? Brand recommendations? Compatible diapers? Really, any other experience you have to share goes here.

Anonymous 03/08/16 (Tue) 00:50:21 No.17363

I asked a bit around about caths on NewFapChan a few years ago, you shouldn't have it in for more than a hour AFAIK.

And don't mess your diaper either, it will fuck you up big time when cathed.

As for the diapers: get the most absorbant ones you can get, you WILL leak quickly otherwise!

Anonymous 03/08/16 (Tue) 17:35:20 No.17390

There's a long, long thread about this over at DailyDiapers:

http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?/topic/41964-one-minute-stent-program-video/

Some guy makes a stent that doesn't stick out past the urethral opening and apparently can leave it in for days. Which to me sounds fucking retarded but whatevs, maybe he's got a UTI fetish, too.

Anonymous 03/11/16 (Fri) 22:57:14 No.17502

Medfag here.

They can be left in for extended times (more than a week in some cases) without major problems, so for some session that lasts let's say a few days there is no harm.

This of course only applies to proper care scenarios. So caution is still adviced.

Non-professionals can be easily taught how to do these procedures themselves in case it is needed on a regular basis. So looking at all this there is no problem when done right (which can be done by anyone who can read and do some very basic research).

The special case involving dirty diapers is however a problem, since through an open catheter bacteria can get directly into the bladder causing infection.

There are two approaches now.

1. Don't mess, since that is a major route for the bacteria causing urinary tract infection. Following this advice again little can happen.

2. A simple one way valve can be used to limit the back flow and close the direct way back into your bladder. This practically cuts of all ways into the bladder, and still is so weak that there is practically no resistance to full incontinence like flow.

To sum it up at worst you could get an infection, that is very common (the most common hospital contracted infection in patients) that can be treated easily, albeit it is painful to some extent.

I personally have toyed with the idea, however decided against it, since the idea of shoving up something into my own dick is not pleasant to me.

Also it reminds me of old peoples penises

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 13:33:14 No.17533

>>17502

I realise it's probably an extremely bad idea to try this stuff, but hypothetically would inserting a short stent to hold the uretheral sphincter(s) open or injecting some kind of paralytic drug (eg. botox) into the muscles work?

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 14:42:37 No.17536

>>17533

The dangers when doing standard catheters are very few and very harmless.

The shorter the line into your bladder the more likely it is you will get some kind of infection since the bacteria can build membranes over the plastic and thus find their way in against the flow.

I would advice for the time tested procedure of standard catheters, since that is so easily done by anyone and can be easily obtained. Also it has very few potential dangers, and those can be easily dealt with in case they occur.

If I get your idea you would rather have a small stent like device inside which holds it open like a catheter, but without the length of the regular device sticking out. I can see the appeal but would advice against it. Cutting the tubing shorter is of course fully possible and not that bad of an idea, as long as enough is left for easy removal and the inflation mechanics inside the bladder can still be operated.

To answer your first question in theory it could be done, but due to difficulties in inserting and removal it is not practical, and can't be achieved without professional intervention(if at all, I am no urologist so i wouldn't know what kind of obscure devices there might be).

Whether botox would work as intended in this case is a hard question. When injected into the muscle of course, but which tissues would pick it up first in there (causing potential problems), or whether it would work at all when administered like this I'm not sure.

tl;dr

Just get a standard (or onetime (they can be easily left in for a while as well)) catheter from a pharmacy and use it. They are sold freely require no prescription and are extremely simple to use with little to no sideffects that are harmless and easily dealt with if they occur at all.

This kind of play might scare some away, but compared to a lot of other things done in the scope of abdl, this is very much safe.