/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover

>>9349

Hello, OP. For the record I'd like to state that I'm a homosexual and I'm in a successful relationship with another man that indulges me in my fetish. He indulges me for two reasons. One, because I indulge him in his fetishes, and two because we set boundaries. The boundaries we agreed to is wetting is only reserved for special/Rare occasions, there is no messing allowed, and I am to keep everything under moderation, not too much babying out. The key to success is sacrifice, understanding and love. You must sacrifice some elements of your ABDL-ism, you must make sure you AND your girlfriend are comfortable, and if not take things slow. Worst case scenario, you regress/get diapered when you're alone and your girl Is out of the house. And it all needs to work together under the love of you and your girlfriend, who understands your needs as you understand her needs. Hope this helped even a little bit, I know what it's like to feel sorta odd about yourself and hopeless. Just keep going, eventually you'll find someone who accepts you. I know I'm a faggot and girls are different but hopefully this gives you hope. If a faggot like me can be happy, you can be too.

>>9365

I have no experience at all, but I've always thought that this course of action was the best or one of them. Honestly I'm just trying to find a kinky girl who has a fetish I can accept and participate in.

>>9387

As much as I hate to say it, their fetish is leverage in a way. If you participate in theirs they might participate in yours.

I'm OP.

>>9387

I'd love to find a situation like this, and maybe I'm being a biased asshole, but I feel like most girls with comparable fetishes are either 1. Ugly. 2. Emotionally imbalanced. 3. Rare.

Yes, I realize those first two are pretty hypocritical.

In general, I think girls just aren't as kinky as guys. I realize there's a lot of people who try to dispute that, but in general I think when a girl says she's kinky, she means something like fluffy pink handcuffs and when a guy says he's kinky, he means something way less socially acceptable.

>>9365

I'm glad you've found a good relationship, but at the risk of sounding like an asshole, I really do think gay guys have it easier when it comes to fetishism.

But yeah, I think it's still solid advice, I get that everything is about compromise and mutual respect.

>>9349

It's time to give up on 3DPD whores and start searching for you waifu, anon.

On a more serious note, it really depends what you're into. This fetish is extremely broad. I think it would be easier to get a girl to wear diapers (possibly as part of a bondage scenario) than it would be to get a girl to change your diapers and baby you.

I am in no way an optimistic person by any means and a minority case at best, but I can honestly say to everyone with relationship troubles: don't give up hope.

My first relationship gf worked at a daycare and recused herself to ABDL due to her job (later, after she left me she was into daddy/daughter play, much to my confusion). Then, early on in my second relationship my gf at the time said that she wasn't into ageplay, among d/s play she wasn't a fan of due to an abusive ex.

Currently, my third (and hopefully lasting since engaged) relationship had no clue this stuff existed (though she looked at porn occasionally since the early 2000s) and it was a bit difficult to articulate and according to her, I was shaking due to nervousness and dispelling any pedo connotations since I (along with her) find little kids annoying as fuck. Some say that ladies who are into this have psychological/daddy issues, but save for some slight anxiety/depression issues that runs in her family, there's nothing major in that area. In fact, her age she regresses to (5-6) was a time before her teenage babysitters in the mid 90s taught her about sexual things (simulating with dolls and such but nothing physical save for liking girls since a young age and was bi-sexual up until she met me). Although when we play, I am hesitant and unsure how to segway into the sexual element with keeping that reasoning in mind and not feeling like a pedo, but it's a wall we've been chipping away at for the past few years.

I'm a DL mostly (can regress when I hit a psyche limit due to my punishing work ethic) and my LG wears mostly to please me (outside of wearing a few times a month due to overnight menstrual blood) and likes the AB aspect primarily, but she's coming around more and more. She instead likes dresses that /cgl/ might ridicule because it's not an expensive brand I can drop half a grand on, but she's at least happy, can dress the part, and be (mostly) socially acceptable.

One last positive thing I can leave you with is that, after explaining the difficulty most guys have with relationships and the accepting factor, is that she couldn't explain why ABDL would be ridiculed as much as it is. "What girl wouldn't like to be taken care of?" is a summary of her bemusement.

Hi anon.

Don't be discouraged about the future. It is good not to have high expectations but don't get lost in the low expectations.

I met my significant other on /b/ on a completely unrelated thread. During the initial months into our online relationship, our dynamic was relatively normal. One night, I random ally called him daddy and we began to explore the wonderful world of age play. I quickly found my little side and began to indulge in related taboo fetishes. Surprisingly enough, I found him to be incredibly accepting of my desires and he even began to enjoy it as well.

My advice to you is to remain positive.

Try not to limit your search to fantasy related forums. Kinky girls are everywhere. Perhaps you can find a diaper virgin and be the first to turn a girl on to being padded.

You never know.

>>9677

People usually give me flack that I met my IRL waifu on craigslist, but I think It's a bit more serendipitous that you met someone on /b/.

>>9700

It was definitely random. It is a good feeling to find something without having looked for it. I never knew I would be in diapers before our relationship. I turned him on to the idea and we ended up loving it.

Has anyone ever paid a hooker/escort to do any of this? I enjoy diapers as well as a bit of crossdressing, and have played around with this idea for the last few weeks. I assume most will do whatever as long as you pay them, but how many hookers/escorts are generally ok with stuff like this? I dont know if I'll ever actually go through with this. If I do, it will probably still be a long time from now, but I'd like to know what my options are.

>>9826

I'd be interested in hearing if anyone has done this as well.

I've never paid a hooker for anything but I've talked to a couple guys who have.

What they said is that most hookers will be freaked out if you're suggesting weird fetish stuff right away. Which is understandable, they're trying to protect themselves after all, and are worried that guys who go right into asking them about fetishism will pull something dangerous.

However, if you pay for vanilla sex/blowjobs a few times and they get to know you a bit, maybe become a regular customer, they will be willing to do a lot of fetish stuff for you. Usually, for a little bit more money though.

>>9914

Damn, thats really a shame to hear, as I'm not interested in sex. I pretty much just want to crossdress with them and wear/wet diapers. I have seen ads on backpage (lol) where girls claim to be "fetish friendly", so I was hoping if I emailed them and asked first, they'd be down. Otherwise I might just get a sex doll instead. But hopefully some others here have some advice/experience in the subject.

>>9397

>In general, I think girls just aren't as kinky as guys.

You've OBVIOUSLY never been on FetLife. Girls are way freakier than you think. Guys just keep telling them they're not allowed to be.

>>9349

All I'm gonna say is that it's possible, if you look in the right places. I gave up looking after relationship # 16. Then I found my wife.

Remember that nobody else is capable of fulfilling your happiness but you, and keep an open mind to everything, and you'll eventually find somebody.

I'm 31 btw, and didn't meet her till I was almost 30.

>>11577

What are the "right places?"

>>11577

>and you'll eventually find somebody.

i get what you're saying; i also think it's important to not rely on another person for happiness and to keep yourself open. but this statement simply isn't true. some people never find anybody. promising otherwise is hurtful.

>>11576

Not only are the girls way freakier, but the guys overshadow them in sheer quantity, making it appear as if the girls are not that kinky… man, so many guys on fetlife are vanilla but want a kinky chick.

>>9349

>Who here has had experience with getting vanilla girls into it before?

I'm 24, only started dating at 19, but even with only 5 years to draw from I've been able to get 16 girls to participate at least somewhat in Diaper or ABDL stuff. To be fair, 3 of those girls already had some interest in diapers, so let's call it 13 vanilla girls that I've been able to embrace the crinkles. Everything I'm writing here is meant for dating Vanilla Girls, since getting an ABDL girlfriend to do diaper stuff is pretty much just "Hey, wanna wear diapers?" which she'll respond by saying "Fucking obviously, why aren't we already padded!?"

>What are the tactics for it?

The number 1 most giant piece of advice I can give to people is to be a man about it, but also to pretend that it's not a big deal. You need to be able to tell a girl that you like wearing diapers, cute clothes, pacifiers, etc. Don't spring it on her as an opening line or anything, but don't beat around the bush for too long. I'd say within 2 weeks to 2 months would be a good range for an average relationship. I've had times where I brought it up on the first date, but we'll get back to that later. Once you've had sex a couple times and are trying out new things you should be able to initiate the "what kinks are you into" talk.

The trick during the kink talk is to act like it's no big deal and to start off small. Be open about it and say that you are into diapers. They'll most likely think you are joking (at least they usually do in my case since I'm the type of guy where 90% of the stuff that comes out of my mouth is a joke), and if they laugh a bit you should laugh with them. Yeah, diapers, silly right? Just tell them that you like the feeling of them since they are thick, warm, and comfy. One of my key lines that I use if they seem shocked is "I mean I like it, but you know, if you totally aren't into it then we don't have to do it." That line will take away any pressure they feel to participate in something they've never really considered before. Listen to their kinks and be willing to participate in as many of them as possible. NEVER, and I repeat, never start with a big long story about how you've been into diapers since you were 3 and that you want to wear diapers 24/7. That's way too much info way too quickly. You will overwhelm them and it won't go well. Start off by just saying that you are into them, and that you like wearing them for both sexy-times and just casually around the house sometimes. That's it. What do you tell them? You tell them you like wearing thick crinkly underwear, and you leave it at that.

A lot of girls at that point will be willing to try a pretty benign scene. I always go for this: I start off with a diaper under my clothes and we go to cuddling. Foreplay happens and once we start getting naked I take off the diaper and we go at it. For the love of god do not wear a Snuggies overnight for this. Leave those for later. Wear an M4 (or whatever size you wear). The pattern is not babyish at all and don't have an overly medical vibe to them. If you don't have M4s then wear something that has as plain a pattern as possible on it. This gets them used to you wearing diapers and doesn't really put much burden on them to do anything involving them. Every girl I tried that with has been cool with it.

After that first time wait a bit before doing it again. Rotate through some other kinks and throw in some regular sex while you are at it. The vast majority of girls will be willing to do it again. The next time you try it most girls will be more into it. Pretty every single one of them spanked me on their own. I would be at the point where I was down to just my diaper and they'd reach out and go for a spank. Even if you aren't big on spanking go with it. Laugh, it's silly, you are wearing a diaper, ha. Keep things light and happy and things will progress. From there most girls who are into tying each other up will want to probably hand cuff you to the bed while they tease you. They'll go for the nipples, then go for some diaper rubs, then go for the feet, then whatever.

Gonna split this into multiple parts since it's too long for one post.

>>11614

Eventually things will progress and all the kinks you guys do will get kinkier. Most girls will be cool with you wetting after a few times. They'll probably want you to deal with your wet diaper at first though. A good thing to ask for after she's used to the basics is for her to put a diaper on you after you've finished up with all the sex and the post-sex showering. She'll most likely be into it and it will give you your in for AB stuff. Have a normal shared shower with your normal helping each other getting clean and whatnot. And when you are getting out of the shower you can pop in with a "hey, do you want to try putting a diaper on me." Again, you need to be a man about it. If you act all embarrassed and desperate she won't be too willing. You can be a bit embarrassed, sure, it's your kink, but you need to be at least a bit confident. Act like it'll be fun. Get a diaper and open it up and lay it down. Guide her through it and when she's done be thankful. If she's not too sure how to do any of it you can always do everything but the tapes and guide her through doing the tapes. Afterwords you can go for some diapered cuddling.

Some girls will ask if you want them to wear a diaper, and some girls will be willing if you ask them to, but wouldn't ask unless you brought it up. The trick is just give a simple "Hey, do you want to try wearing one. They're super comfy." Most will be into wearing one, and once they are padded you can always go for some diapered cuddling which will lead to diapered making out and then of course you'll get to try sex where you are both diapered. For getting a girl to wet it's really hit or miss. It's entirely dependent on whether or not they are okay with pee. Some girls are into both people wetting, some are just okay with you wetting, and some prefer that no one wets. If they are willing to participate in diaper stuff don't force the issue if they aren't willing to do certain stuff involving wetting, since that will just make them not want to do diaper stuff as often. Encourage the growth of her participation but respect all of her harder limits.

From there you just need to be confidant about things. If you want AB stuff you can start with sucking on her nipples while diapered during foreplay, and diapered cuddling is always super awesome. Most girls think it's adorable when you wear a onesie or shortalls, and the ones that are willing to wear are always willing to join in with either wearing your AB clothes or wearing cute clothes of their own (like the fuzzy one piece pajamas that are pretty popular).

Of course, once you get to the point where they are cool with it you can break out whatever crazy ABDL diapers you have in stock.

Now, onto the subject that some of you will notice I never covered: Messing. I'm going to be honest, most girls will not be into it, so you'll need to accept that. I've had a couple who were willing to go that far, but they are few are far between. There's no trick here. They'll either be into it or they won't, and usually they won't.

>>11615

>Are there certain kinds of girls who are more open to it?

Yeah, kinkier girls are usually more open to it. Most girls will be into it given enough time and patience, but kinkier girls usually go farther and get there faster when it comes to diaper stuff.

Really though, there is one type of girl who is the most open to it: a girl who is really into you. A girl who finds you sexually attractive and emotionally attractive will be more willing to embrace your kink for your sake. If you are just dating someone for sex it's kind of harder to get them to try out your weird kinks.

>Also, dating advice general I guess?

To maximize your chances you need to make yourself as attractive as possible. Imagine a scale from 0 to 10, where 0 is undateable and 10 is a sex god; you can go below 0 or above 10, but in that case you just default back to 0 or 10, respectively. Let's say you are an average guy: okay life, okay face, okay personality, not the best haircut, 10-20 lbs overweight. That would make you a 5. But then you add on a diaper fetish. For some girls that would put you down to 0. For a couple girls it will put you above a 5. But for most girls it will, at least initially, shift you down to somewhere between 0 and 5.

Your goal is to do as much as possible to increase your attractive in all the other aspects in order to offset the negative brought about by having a rather odd kink. If you are in school you need to do well so you can get a good job, and when you aren't in school you need to make sure you have a job that can pay the bills because people want to date someone who is financially independent with an interesting job. Your face can swing the scale a lot. Don't have a neckbeard. DO NOT HAVE A NECKBEARD. If you can grow a beard then grow a proper beard and keep it well groomed. If you can't grow any good facial hair then you need to keep your face clean-shaven. You need to take care of your skin too. Find a way to keep your face looking clean and feeling soft. Acne and other facial blemishes are the enemy. If you are ugly as balls it doesn't matter, because if your face looks well kept then you are gaining points. For personality just don't be a dick. Be yourself in every aspect that isn't being a dick, and for all the aspects of yourself that cause you to be a dick you need to train yourself to not be a dick. For hair it's pretty simple, you can have long hair or short hair, it doesn't matter. What matters is that it looks good, feels good, and is styled in a way that complements your features. Don't have a dirty smelly ponytail if you have long hair. You can have a ponytail, just don't use it as an excuse to not keep it as nice as possible.

Now for the big one, lose some fucking weight, guys. I know, it sucks being told to lose weight because it's hard and dietary changes kind of suck, trust me I know. But you want a girlfriend who you can wear diapers with so this is what you need to do. Work out a lot. Work out enough where you need to eat more and all the exercise makes you fall asleep within a minute every night. Sub in water and milk for most of the pop and other things you drink. The pounds will melt off and everything about you will start looking better. Eventually you'll need to start setting up a schedule where you work out certain body parts on certain days in order to manage your gains and your DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness).

Personally, I'm 5'6" with hair down to my shoulders and I have a diaper fetish. But you know what I did? I made my body look awesome, I got a degree and an awesome job, I keep my hair shiny and glorious, and I'm not a dick to anyone unless they are being a dick to others. When I date girls I tell them about my diaper fetish and they participate. Why? Because I made myself an attractive partner.

>>11619

>Should I date ugly girls to make it easier?

If you consider them ugly you shouldn't date then. If you follow my advice you'll be able to attract a girl you like the looks and personality of and get her to enjoy diapers.

>How should I act?

Confidence is number 1. Positivity and being nice are close seconds.

Be sure of yourself. You like diapers, so what? James Joyce was super into women farting and he's considered one of the greatest contributors to English Literature. Your kinks don't define you. Girls like men who are confidant, so you should be a confidant man.

Positivity is more just general life advice. If you are happy and optimistic you are more likely to see opportunities for partners and opportunities to better yourself.

When I say being nice I mean you shouldn't be a dick. Don't be a "nice guy" that never takes charge and just tries to make a girl feel like you're her friend. Be nice by texting her when you aren't together. Be nice by indulging her kinks. Be nice by respecting her limits. Be nice by going down on her. Be nice by doing stuff with her friends that you don't really like because it means a lot to her.

All in all, just be the best man and the best boyfriend you can be, and you'll eventually get a diapered girlfriend.

>>11614

>>11615

>>11619

>>11620

OP here.

This is all solid advice.

If you don't mind, what is your workout/diet/grooming regimine like?

Also, what did you go to school for and what is your job?

Not that I'm trying to mimic you in all of this stuff, it'd just be interesting to get some stuff for comparison.

I'm getting a masters degree in business logistics, and living with my parents right now. So dating sucks and I feel like i never have free time.

I'm not obese but I'm about 230 pounds and 6 feet tall. I've worked out before but never really lost a lot of weight.

Again, if you don't mind me asking though, how do you date? Where do you go to find these girls that are so sexually open? The only relationships I've been in before we met through mutual friends, so I'm not really sure how regular people go about this sort of thing.

>>11621

>This is all solid advice.

Well thank Jeebus for that. Glad I didn't waste around an hour typing all that out.

>If you don't mind, what is your workout/diet regime like?

I don't mind at all. In fact I'm more than happy to answer pretty much anything.

My workout routine probably won't work well for some people since I kind of got dealt an amazing hand when it comes to genetics related to working out. Like, before I got serious about working out my weight would slowly drift from 130 up to around 140 over the course of a month or two. Whenever I'd hit 140+ (remember I'm pretty tiny 5'6") I'd think "crap, time to drop 10lbs". I'd just do cardio for around 4 hours/day for 2-3 days and I'd be solidly back at 130 when I was finished. When it actual training the genetic lottery favoured me again seeing as how 3 members of my family trained for the Olympics (only 1 of my uncles actually made it all the way through to the actual Olympics, although 1 of the 2 who didn't make it was because she was sick for a few weeks after she drank bad water before the qualifiers to be on the national team). So yeah, take my training advice with a grain of salt because I'm doing things on ultra easy mode pretty much. I'm able to do a lot of endurance stuff for long distances because of both the genetic lottery and years of training, so don't be discouraged if you can't match my numbers.

For years I've biked 2-4 hours a day almost every single day during the summer. I'd do a loop around town going to all the thrift stores looking for diapers and there is a pharmacy I go to that has Tena diapers for $5 a bag every few months. I would buy books and other random things from the thrift stores and whatever little things from the pharmacies so that at least each store sold me something once a week. Can't have people watching me to closely when I'm trying to scope out diapers, and if I'm just the guy on the bike that comes in every day and sometimes buys things they won't pay me any attention.

I also run long distance, 10km a day usually. I have a treadmill so I can do it during the winters. My Dad runs something like 20 marathons a year and he always wants me and my siblings to join him but I can't let him beat me too badly so I try to keep in marathon shape at all times. For me the biggest thing is just like being able to do races without having to ever stop running. All I need is a giant energy drink 30 min before the race and my ipod loaded with X hours worth of my favorite metal songs (I'd rather focus on the music screaming at me than focus on my lungs screaming at me).

For weightlifting I consider myself to not be too hardcore, because my main workout group consists of my brothers, who are both bodybuilders, and my uncles are literally Olympic athletes. I mostly just do body-weight stuff and powerlifting. Body-weight I do almost every day. I just do 100 push-ups, 100 squats, and 100 sit ups broken up into groups of 20 throughout the day (Yes I do that entirely because of One Punch Man). For Pull-ups (lol pull-ups) I just go until I can't anymore three times a week. For powerlifting I go rather light for my height/weight at 100 bench, 150 squat, 150 deadlift.

For diet I'm kind of a slob. I drink around 2-3 cans of pop a day, and eat fast food pretty much 5-6 days a week. On top of that though I drink a ton of water + tea + juice (make sure to get toothpaste that's meant to deal with an acidic diet). For food at home I eat tons of steak and fish. Find a fish that you like eating and has very low mercury levels so you can safely eat it daily. Fish is cheap, super healthy, and super delicious. Then come the fruits and vegetables. You are going to eat tons of them everyday. Carrots are health sticks, just wash them and eat them, nobody got time to peel and cut them bitches. Salads are also great. I don't ever really eat chocolate unless people buy it for me, and I don't eat much junk other than the fast food.

>>11621

>This is all solid advice.

Well thank Jeebus for that. Glad I didn't waste around an hour typing all that out.

>If you don't mind, what is your workout/diet regime like?

I don't mind at all. In fact I'm more than happy to answer pretty much anything.

For years I've biked 2-4 hours a day almost every single day during the summer. I'd do a loop around town going to all the thrift stores looking for diapers and there is a pharmacy I go to that has Tena diapers for $5 a bag every few months. I would buy books and other random things from the thrift stores and whatever little things from the pharmacies so that at least each store sold me something once a week. Can't have people watching me to closely when I'm trying to scope out diapers, and if I'm just the guy on the bike that comes in every day and sometimes buys things they won't pay me any attention.

I also run long distance, 10km a day usually. I have a treadmill so I can do it during the winters. My Dad runs something like 20 marathons a year and he always wants me and my siblings to join him but I can't let him beat me too badly so I try to keep in marathon shape at all times. For me the biggest thing is just like being able to do races without having to ever stop running. All I need is a giant energy drink 30 min before the race and my ipod loaded with X hours worth of my favorite metal songs (I'd rather focus on the music screaming at me than focus on my lungs screaming at me).

For weightlifting I consider myself to not be too hardcore, because my main workout group consists of my brothers, who are both bodybuilders, and my uncles are literally Olympic athletes. I mostly just do body-weight stuff and powerlifting. Body-weight I do almost every day. I just do 100 push-ups, 100 squats, and 100 sit ups broken up into groups of 20 throughout the day (Yes I do that entirely because of One Punch Man). For Pull-ups (lol pull-ups) I just go until I can't anymore three times a week. For powerlifting I go rather light for my height/weight at 100 bench, 150 squat, 150 deadlift.

For diet I'm kind of a slob. I drink around 2-3 cans of pop a day, and eat fast food pretty much 5-6 days a week. On top of that though I drink a ton of water + tea + juice (make sure to get toothpaste that's meant to deal with an acidic diet). For food at home I eat tons of steak and fish. Find a fish that you like eating and has very low mercury levels so you can safely eat it daily. Fish is cheap, super healthy, and super delicious. Then come the fruits and vegetables. You are going to eat tons of them everyday. Carrots are health sticks, just wash them and eat them, nobody got time to peel and cut them bitches. Salads are also great. I don't ever really eat chocolate unless people buy it for me, and I don't eat much junk other than the fast food.

>>11623

>>11624

Crap, double post, my bad.

>grooming routine?

I usually shower twice daily, shampoo once a day, soap twice a day. That's pretty much it. For the hair I just let it fall how it falls and if it's not in my face I'm happy. I try to get a trim every other month to remove split ends and keep it from turning into a bird's nest.

>Also, what did you go to school for and what is your job?

I went to school for Economics. I was able to get into a job I wasn't really qualified for after I graduated by nailing the interview. I work for a wealth management company and I'm one of the dozens of people who just comb through stocks and other investments and if I like it I'll send it on to my boss who'll decide if we should invest. I took a pay cut when I got hired so I could work 4 day weeks, and it's totally worth it. I'm not making crazy money or anything like that, but it pays to keep the lights on and pays for me to buy diapers so I won't complain.

>I'm getting a masters degree in business logistics, and living with my parents right now. So dating sucks and I feel like i never have free time.

I know your feels, bro. You never have any time for things and since you are at home you never get more than the rare chance to get diapered. You should be making that mad money soon with a degree like that. A stable job with a good income is a huge plus when looking for a girlfriend. People don't want to date someone who's unstable financially, they want someone who is fun and won't bring around debt. It's going to get 100x better when you graduate, I promise.

>I'm not obese but I'm about 230 pounds and 6 feet tall. I've worked out before but never really lost a lot of weight.

If you don't live in a frozen wasteland you should try biking 30 mins a day or run a 2k every day (only takes 10-15mins). Also, I know people who cut out beer and pop for a few months and lost more than 40 pounds. You could try that. 230 and 6' isn't bad, as long as you steer towards being beefy instead of flabby you should be good.

>Again, if you don't mind me asking though, how do you date?

The actual dates are just normal dates. It's kinky like 20% of the time, and the rest of it just a normal dating experience. I'll bring a girl to the movies, dinner, out to a party etc. The exception is the ABDL girls, with them it's kinky 95% of the time. I've had dates that were literally driving to Rearz and back because we wanted a trunk sized haul of padding.

>>11621

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>>11625

I thought of more questions.

First of all, sorry if this is a douchey question, but you said you only started dating at the age of 19. Did you get into the PUA/pickup/seduction scene at all? Or use any dating guides or programs like that.

I've looked into it before, but a lot of it carries this really heavy douchebag vibe, and a lot of people online say they're scams.

Also, if you're telling a girl about the diaper fetish for the first time, should you preface it by saying something like "I know this is weird," or is it better to just say it? I know you said be confident but I feel like it would carry a lot of shock value.

>I've had dates that were literally driving to Rearz and back because we wanted a trunk sized haul of padding.

You must be Canadian. The wondrous land of social healthcare and low crime rates far to the North.

>>11625

>Where do you go to find these girls that are so sexually open?

I think it's because I live in Canada. People up here, at least in my experience, are much more casual about doing weird sex stuff. Pretty much every girl I've dated has had some kink that was as major to them as diapers are for us. The routine with a new GF is usually: First Date - > Second Date (Sex) -> Third Date (Sex again) -> Fourth Date (Kink Talk). I'll meet them everywhere, through friends, tinder, fetlife, on campus (when I was in school).

>The only relationships I've been in before we met through mutual friends, so I'm not really sure how regular people go about this sort of thing.

Most of the girls I've dated have been introduced to me through friends. I've never hesitated with them to introduce the idea of diapers. Only once has a girl gone back, after we broke up, to my friends in an attempt to out my fetish. They're response was anger at her from betraying the confidentiality of the bedroom. The friends who now know do not care at all.

>>11626

Oh whoops, I must've missed these questions.

>Seduction/PUA

Nah, that stuff wasn't for me. I feel like that's a lot more for people who just want one night stands. Also it just feels like the majority of it is just "Look, we're misogynists, and we're going to help you have sex with women by lowering their self-esteem and making it seem like the only way to get it back is to sleep with you." So yeah, not really my thing. I'm all about them diaper cuddles, and you can't really get diapers or cuddles from a one night sex thing.

I just realized that I'll be single until I decide to man up and go get what I want. I tried just saying I am into diapers because I was really drunk at the time and I had no control over letting out secrets. She was surprisingly cool with it and ever since I've just been open about it once I start having sex with a girl.

>What to preface it with?

Personally, I don't preface it with anything. If you say "I know this is weird" or something similar to that, they will have a negative image in their head before you even bring up the diapers. You want them to just be excited that they get to find out what your fetish is. You can do the "I know it's weird" thing after you say it, but you never want to make her think it's bad before saying it. If you sound like you think it's weird and embarrassing then she will think it is too.

Just come out with it, and try to aim her reaction towards it being silly rather than weird. If it's silly you can laugh about it, and kinky sex is all about being able to laugh at the silly parts.

>Canadian

Yeah, we get our diapers tax-free which is pretty awesome, especially when I was younger. You never had to wait for change, just get the exact amount on the sticker out and you're ready to go.

>>11621

>I'm getting a masters degree in business logistics, and living with my parents right now. So dating sucks and I feel like i never have free time.

No shit op, congrats on making it that far. I'm working on my Associate degree in business logistics and living with my parents right now. So I def. know those feels. It really sucks after being in the military (doing logistics) but then returning home and trying to find time for the lifestyle and trying to date.

i met this korean girl, practically as vanilla as her skin, who is very into me.

talking on the phone one time about how she stumbled across ABDLs.

now, i don't really consider myself an ABDL, because i'm not into ageplay and i don't wear diapers, i just like girls wearing diapers for the humiliation thing.

anyway, while i never said anything about my interest in that kind of stuff, I explained some basic background about ABDLs to her.

i'm fairly certain she wasn't hinting at being interested in ABDL, because we had a discussion before about sex fantasies and the most she could come up with was very very light bondage involving hand-cuffs from her police uniform. also, she's a "strong-independent woman" type, who likes to be on top, and got a good kick out of me coaching her how to spank one time (using my ass of course).

anyway, i'm not sure where i'm going with this, but basically, how does one get a woman that doesn't like to be vulnerable, and takes great pride in the fact that she is an adult, into diapers?