811005 No.10752
So VR is coming, and whether or not you're interested in it yourself, the simple fact is: People ARE going to buy this because they're curious about porn and/or waifus.
Do you honestly think VR porn isn't going to be at least something of a thing in 30 years? Maybe it won't replace just 2D stuff to get off, sure, but at the very least, it will exist and be a thing at least some people use.
There will be business making money off of this.
Why not us autists?
Regardless of you guys, I am basically going to start working on a waifu simulator. I've been getting decent with Unreal 4, and it's basically incredibly easy. One thing I will work on is making it fairly modular so it's really easy and fast to set up stuff like cut scenes, dialogue, animations etc. That's been my design goal since I've started with UE4.
Where I'm going with that is, does anyone else want to colab on this? see where it goes?
Unreal 4 is incredibly simple to use and if you can play an RTS and operate WASD, you pretty much have the skill required that when I have the pieces in place, to make your own content pretty easily, and you only need to pay 20$ once to have access to unreal 4 forever.
To clarify slightly, to start I could be working on the pieces needed to make content, and if anyone joined me depending on their skill could make levels, other stuff, etc. Any of the more skilled members could also contribute to the more modular aspects, and then that version of the game could distributed down so the level makers / story makers / scene setters / dialogue people or whatever could continue progressing with content using the new assets.
The one skill I basically completely lack personally is art (other than basic modelling, I more mean drawing, photoshop, etc) but I'm pretty sure there's not a lack of artists into this type of stuff, so I think if we got some decent stuff foundations down we could get that.
For now, I'm going to start working on my framework and foundation. I'm using animations and models from free sources that come with UE4.
Ideas? Opinions? Suggestions? Want to contribute?
04e612 No.10753
sounds like a good idea for a long term project
ac9930 No.10755
I'm working on something. I already tested it with borrowed game assets of another game I'm working on and I think it could be pretty good.
I'm building new stuff from scratch for it right now. I'm probably going to make it free and ask for donations.
811005 No.10756
5d4423 No.10763
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I'm working on a porn game for the rift atm.
http://gfycat.com/UnpleasantSlimyAnkolewatusiI don't think I will ever sell it but it is a good way to learn game dev.
b0049c No.10765
>>10752>you only need to pay 20$ once to have access to unreal 4 forever.You need to keep paying to access updates, right?
811005 No.10780
>>10765Yes but you can subscribe, cancel, then just resub and recancel like once a year or whenever you actually need the updates. I've been using Unreal since it was out and have only paid like 60$. The new features they add are cool but at this point you don't really need the updates
And if you do, well then hey it's working out for you.
Honestly I recommend anyone with even a passing interest in gamedev to get UE4. It's 20$ and it's more fun than most of the shit youll spend 20$ on steam for
811005 No.10781
>>10763>your jizz particle effectsWell there's no way I can out fucking do that
a5efe5 No.10799
>>10763>Dat American slider 2847d2 No.10801
>>10752>>10763In theory there is a huge potential here but in practice:
1. The characters never look real enough
2. There is no AI that would ever be convincing
3. Porn mocap is already one idea being done
4. Animation is never good enough
5. Feminists will try to make it illegal and they already have success in similar areas
All projects are business ventures at the end of the day - and even talking about GAMES stepping up into new territory, would require AAA experts. For this, the chance of success with an indie project lead is practically 0.
You would need strong leadership and a
motivated, dedicated team that knows what they're doing and can work without being told what to do.
811005 No.10821
>>10801You're forgetting something
>anime fagsI don't think you realize how many anime fags are going to want their waifus, anon. And that clears up a lot of issues - graphics and animation. While still important, significantly less so than photo realistic (which is hard in VR anyway because high FPS is a must)
They're also crazy, always consuming everything, getting attached, spreading it
I feel like there must be an untapped market somewhere with VR. There must be. I need to find it and exploit it. Might as well try with people here.
836177 No.10847
>>10752OP, I'd be willing to help, but unfortunately, the only things I'm good enough at the moment for something like this are design and writing, but if you need any of those things, here I am.
2847d2 No.10954
>>10821yes, anime fags pay absurd amounts just for figurines etc.
Doesn't change the reality that dev costs have only raised while tech has only stayed the same pretty much, and the West's economy has got much worse.
For example, if 3d waifus were that important then why would it take until VR to have them made? Really nobody is making this stuff because even with demand, the projects like in film and computer graphics in general are so high risk.
There exists stuff like ripped Dead or Alive models, but nothing really sophisticated. It's the same reason why technology in general has not done much for humanity, and it has everything to do with spirit and psychology, not tech innovations. Lots of Westerners are so uninspired, lazy, tired, depressed, apathetic etc. in general not just on the outskirts of accepted society.
Everyone can be creative but it's hard because of the environment we live in, and that makes everything more difficult where creativity is concerned. It's not just a coincidence that we have all these fads.. clean your colon, yoga, better diet, lower carbon footprint. 3d waifus is just adding to the things you don't really NEED and for this reason alone the time and energy would be spent better elsewhere (which is why people rarely act on these desires)
811005 No.10984
>>10954Well, I'm a bit of a crippledneetfag, so I'm not really sure I have much to contribute that is actually needed
I see your points and get them, but I still think you're underestimating the appeal of having your waifu right there in front of you. VR hasn't hit consumers yet. I really think some people are going to make it big when that happens. Facebook didn't spend 2 billion for nothing.
Maybe Waifu sims specifically aren't the answer, but there HAS to be something missing in VR that can be exploited. I'm not sure what else I can do in life atm, other than the shit work at home job I have that lets me work a tiny amount barely able to get by. If you have any ideas I'd love to hear. Not even trying to be a dick btw if it came that way, just genuinely feel like there's a chance here, and not sure what else I can do.
c94021 No.11003
>>10752>Do you honestly think VR porn isn't going to be at least something of a thing in 30 years?I would be shocked if we didn't start seeing things withing 5 years.
Give it maybe 10 or 15 years after that to catch on and get big.
d46e51 No.11044
>>10763Already almost on par with 3D Sexvilla
So yeah, you've got commercial potential, just need to relax and make some connections, and keep expanding it to do things that feel interesting/erotic to you.
Good work mate. If you create a devlog, or have some other way to contact you, I'll rss/bookmark it.
7255fa No.11523
There was this one incredibly interesting discussion about how humans in the future would end up abandoning the real world to live in a virtual reality where the computer takes care of your vitals while you play the game for hundreds of years.
I do see some sort of boom once the Oculus Rift comes out but the biggest most massive hurdle in the VR world is an eloquent and complicated AI. Nobody has ever been able to form a learning English speaking robot yet. And the few that have tested their AI learning prototype algorithms with simulated neurons and shit, were only able to go so far because of technical capacities. Let alone consumer based AI computation for another 10-15 years.
Also as many have stated in the thread, 3D models fucking suck and are hideous as fuck. Anime is the way to go but that's my weeb bias.
1bf683 No.11525
VR porn has been a think for 30 years now, so no surprise it'll continue to be a thing. I just hope it doesn't stagnate with first-person sex simulators, because third-person and second-person sex are just as good.
That said, there are three issues I have with VR:
1) uncanny valley even with the most up-to-date graphics;
2) headgear and body sensors to simulate immersion;
2) VR might become the new Net, replacing our browsers
Uncanny valley won't ever go away because reality won't go away, so I hope more fantasy and cartoony graphics - and less realism - becomes VR.
Headgear and sensors won't be cheap and will be annoying to use - I don't want to have to deal them as I fap - though I imagine room-sized VR will replace them.
I don't want to lose my browser because it's so easy to hop on. I imagine with VR, I'll have to wait a few seconds to get online. But I'm sure this will probably be improved on later.
b98765 No.11526
>>11523I wonder how that would work, because hosting a virtual world for someone is a waste of resources. So unless they work at days and go VR at nights, it's probably not going to work unless humans invent perpetual motion or "infinite" food or something.
Anyway, on a slightly related subject, I always wondered if the 10% brain power myth could be actually true. I mean, what if you replaced your body with a machine, so the 90% part of your brain that manages your organs and veins and all that shit could focus on something else? I wonder if people could become super intelligent that way.
7255fa No.11547
>>11526>I always wondered if the 10% brain power myth could be actually true.It's false. That statistic shit included your memory regions in your brain. And for the record, you do use 100% of your brain as in every part is used sometimes for retrieving memory. Just not at once.
fdb3fd No.11579
>>11547I feel like you didn't read the rest of the post.
I didn't mean literally. I meant the part of your brain that runs your body could possibly be re-purposed, because those parts of your brain are constantly being used to move blood through your veins, process all your senses at once (hearing, smell, sight, balance, touch & temperature, space and distance of your bodyparts), oxidize your blood, moisturize your eyes, manage sweat, process food and other minerals, and so on.
30287a No.11603
You know what's scary?
If we digitize and the default visual style is anime. We become 2D beings. It's one thing to watch anime but living it makes it not fun anymore. Raping other avatars online would be a federal offense.
59f9d8 No.11693
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>>11523The 'real world' doesn't require expensive modelling work and time to make, so it will never be replaced (mathematically impossible).
It's just a dream, there's no real philosophical or psychological basis behind the claims that transhumanists make.
Well there's 3d scanning now, look at Euclideon. And there's high quality scanning services of individual people.. however, you have to be very tech-learned to understand the massive tech complexities and problems that creating a VR world would have. Nobody would recognize it as a human right, and the first corporation would come to s(h)it on it and leave it there.
As for AI, or hell even *animating* characters convincingly, no it's not going to happen for a very long time even in the best case. Again mostly because nobody really cares or would invest money esp. while we have unsolved environmental crises which are in the exact opposite direction of more escapism and /pol/ style pro-individual, anti-community values.
It would actually be a great tragedy for awareness and rational behaviour if VR dreams were a success and the Chinese (e.g. Tencent) found a legal loophole in which to mass employ Westerners within virtual worlds.
Also games are shit because of money (check embed), so VR would be exactly the same, esp. since Open Source, 99% of developers themselves, and even nations in general are submissive towards corporations.
a4a0db No.11702
>>11603>but living it makes it not fun anymore.Says fucking who? It's the perfect world.
>Raping other avatars online would be a federal offense.Fuck off SJW.
6ca17f No.11740
I want to make a waifu game, problem is the local job market is for Unity3D, but I have a feeling I can accomplish more with Unreal4, I'm so conflicted. I haven't coded in years and my 3D art skills suck. I just like downloading off-shelf templates and asset store stuff and studying them.
>>10763Get on some crowdfunding and I will support you.
I'm reminded of Artificial Girl 3 where I spent hours just on the character and clothes customization screen.
Sexy clothes and decorations and all the mod potential will propel games of this type.
>>10821Maybe porn dev can buy cheap anime models just to gauge the feel of their construction and integrate into the character creator. If we're going for porcelain doll type of models without the cel-shading it'll be easier to get anime fags creating waifus with the program.
931ce5 No.11834
What crowdfunding options are there for VR porn?
d6a205 No.11874
>>11834Patreon? At least that's where all the hentai artists are that actually make a living.
... at least until it gets taken down (hopefully not)
165ad6 No.12399
>>11523>transhumanist think they are going to live in some fucking utopia when its really a jail cell. where someone has the power to unplug you if you dont comply. 3b7fbe No.12477
>>11740https://www.patreon.com/vrtittiesI'm keen to add a lot more customisation.
bbc07a No.12503
>>12477Ok.
You might want to ping
https://twitter.com/LewdGameReviewsThey cover work-in-progress games as well.
6cc624 No.15738
>>10763slap in loonix support and i'm fucking sold
014e35 No.15754
>>12399That's why the reign of free software must come first.
d8fe99 No.16326
>>10752
I still want that computer that sucks your dick. This will not all work unless I can have a computer that let's me see sexy shit and also sucks my dick.
63b80b No.16631
>>16326
> computer that sucks your dick.
I believe the search term is "teledildonic"
9a00e3 No.17447
I have updated VRtitties a bit more check it out here http://gladstonegaming.com/VR/
Thanks everyone here for the suggestions. I got in touch with lewd gamers and they did this a while ago.
https://www.lewdgamer.com/2015/04/13/oculus-rift-porn-vrtitties-14-arrived/
02fd91 No.20870
I'm interested in starting with VR, so I figured this thread would be appropriate.
Are normal maps completely out the window with VR? It seems like parallax would ruin the effect at close distances.
a9bdee No.20909
>>20870
It seems like parallax would ruin the effect at close distances.
it shows yeah, but in my experience on a 1080p DK2, you can't notice past 10 meters. It's fine for distant objects. Appropriate use of normal mapping is laid out in the best practices guide I think.
09dd0e No.20937
>>10801
>The characters never look real enough
A matter of GPU horsepower.
>There is no AI that would ever be convincing
People are software running on brains. It can be simplified. Speak to elbot. that is a headless AI that carries a conversation based on patterns alone.
>Porn mocap is already one idea being done
Look at yiffalicious. IK is more than enough.
>Animation is never good enough
Except when it is
>Feminists will try to make it illegal and they already have success in similar areas
Like?
18b25c No.20976