/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

>>22856

>wants to make porn anything

>doesn't show any art

>expects people to take him seriously

show some art and I'll tell you if you can suceed.

I'm planning on doing some porn stuff also, mostly good games where the porn is part of the gameplay, I'm planning on designing a sexual combat system, based mostly on grabs.

I'm bored of the shitty lose and get raped and see a shitty porn gif, or worse, those fap with some shitty flash loop.

As long as your art is good, and by that I mean, professional quality, you can become a star overnight.

you could go with some parody if you want easy word of mouth.

as long as your art is GOOD, there's nothing to worry.

>>22857

Not even at that stage yet, this is still very conceptual. I'm just wanted some opinions on the market.

How would you even go about selling it? I assume things like Steam are out of the question. I don't want to be a happy mercant, setup a website, maintain all that BS.

>>22859

Oh man, wrong picture, but you get the idea

>>22859

Yes, although my art sucks balls and I have nothing to share on the computer I am on now.

Does GOG or any other platform allow X or XXX games?

>>22865

Yeah, the social impact would be difficult. I imagine I would want to stay as low profile/anonymous as possible.

I agree though, I feel there is a basically untapped market here due to western morality.

Patreon is a good idea, I wonder what their TOS is regarding porn artists...

>(f) will not be obscene or contain child pornography or be harmful to minors;

This exists at least:

https://www.patreon.com/dirtyharriet?ty=h

>>22866

There is definitly an untapped well, i mean:

https://www.patreon.com/fow?ty=h

And those are not even games.

>(f) will not be obscene or contain child pornography or be harmful to minors;

Well, that was to be expected, you might even get into jail for it in some countries. But you can work around it like in the mmorpg tera, for example call it a fairy race, give them different ears and shit, still call them 18 years old, i mean animal pornography is also illegal, but furry is allowed, as long as you don't make it too obvious you can make a lot of magic happen in the world of fiction.

And yes, i would definitly be anonymous in that case, because in the western world this would be social suicide, and if you would like to work for other game studios, they might also not take you because of that.

>>22864

>my art sucks balls

That could be kind of a dealbreaker, don't you think?

>>22868

My art sucks balls now, but only in comparison to professional work.

Art is like guitar and other skills, everyone sucks in the beginning. You fail a thousand times and suck less. The hard work, strangely enough, isn't what is bothering me at this point, the social impact is. Why bother risking it if there isn't even a market here? I mean, sure, do it for the love of ecchi, but...

Sex sells. But I would go the anime/waifu route as it's more prone to obsession and aesthetic attachments

There's a few western porn developers and artists that make tons of cash with it. I think especially with a game you can easily establish character personalities and have people pick their favorites.

Also consider that there's fetishes that are popular but untapped. Warframe has produced a ton of lewd fanart, but besides that few cater to that niche.

>>22856

Second Life

3D Sexvilla

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/550135www.yareel.com

Yes there is a market as proven by the faggots at Yareel.

Make no mistake, this is as bad as promoting Candy Crush and you should feel bad for working on an inherently shitty concept. You might as well be trying to punch someone through the screen or trying to ban "him", kill "him" which is just the player character. You can only create a digital world and affect the digital characters, not the in real life player.

If you plan on an actual real game then you will need some substanceful content.

For example the player character should take a life of it's own and start whining by itself and being affected by the actions and dick size, speed.

Try to model a character after an in real life person's quirks, limits, personality.

Add monsters, tentacles, spikes, working biology, muscle stretching, pain muscles.

But even then that would just be like dreaming, watching anime, directing a porn movie. But with extra info, which you cannot feel, you can only assume. Etc. Etc.

Otherwise you might as well just have sex in real life. Because you can feel every move and you have control over every member of your body in a much more dexterous way than a shitty keyboard and mouse could ever give you.

I'm saying that triple AAA porn games are a waste of time.

We should get rid of our hormones and let the porn become useless.

>>22910

>Otherwise you might as well just have sex in real life.

Some things you simply cannot or should not live out in reality. Imagination is a wonderful thing and good looking 2D is king when it comes to that.

There's definitely a market for this but average, vanilla 3D isn't going to be successful, as there's already enough of that. You have to do something new or cater to certain fetishes. There's also no multiplayer porn game worth a shit, which is weird considering there are a lot of people into RP.

>We should get rid of our hormones and let the porn become useless.

God gave man dick. If you want to cast yours aside then go ahead, you fucking heretic.

>>22856

>Is there any way at all to make money off them? Any real market in the west at all?

Yes. In fact, I'm almost certain that the h-game market is one of the most lucrative niche markets right now in the West.

See, even though Japan and the East have a booming mainstream h-game market, none of that actually comes over, and only the more hardcore consumers are willing to wrestle with machine translations to actually enjoy the market.

But over here, we have virtually nothing. You might think that that's because of some sort of Western prudent morality, but it's just because no one is making the games thanks to a history of no one wanting to make the games. Look at the few h-games we actually DO get over here; HuniePop and the Sakura series on Steam, and Patreon titles like Breeding Season and Akabur's works all make MAD BANK. It's hard to find exact Steam figures, but the Breeding Season team is making $40k a MONTH (that's not a typo) for a flash game that started off on the fucking LoK forums, a game that definitely doesn't deserve anywhere near that much money.

Show off your art, make a proof of concept, then put up a Patreon. You'll have a six-figure salary instantly, because the West is absolutely thirsty when it comes to h-games. Your game doesn't even have to have deep or meaningful gameplay, either. If you look at the Japanese market, a solid chunk of titles released every month are either basic RPGMaker games using the preset mechanics (artists aren't programmers), or are simply copies of already-existing games with lewd aspects thrown in (ROBF, for example, is a singleplayer 1:1 clone of Ragnarok Online, but all the enemies are naked monster girls that you need to rape).

Even if you can't get your game on Steam (Huniepop and Sakura do it by releasing a clean version on Steam, then a lewd patch on their site), there are plenty of alternatives. The aforementioned ROBF released on DLSite and they still made something like $250k for a year's worth of work if I remember correctly. And you can always just host it on your own site.

tl;dr make a porn game for the West and you'll get rich

The main things you'll need...

1.) Patreon

2.) Good art and / or furry

3.) Fetish

I'm currently making a single-heroine, single-fetish (femdom) visual novel like plenty of DLsite titles. Not too sure about potential success since it's no gameplay, but there's no way in hell I'd be making Illusion quality models set in an open world anytime soon (disclaimer: I have yet to try Sexy Beach Premium Resort). Besides, those 3D games thrive on mods and stuff and I'm not a good programmer.

A lot of hentai artists openly admitted that they went into porn since they weren't getting enough commissions doing non-porn. I'm kinda sticking with 2D with lots of image galleries but I better come up with a viable game mechanic.

>>22925

Yep.

Never forget how far a troll pony dating sim with a very weird trailer actually got.

God bless MDE

>>22958

>>22925

how can we do this without tying it to your real name?

>>22961

make a new internet identity for your porn games and never release your personal info.

also try to make it a diferent style from your normal games.

as long as you don't behave like an attention whore or a huge faggot, noone will care.

>>22975

Post it anonymously is easy, but I think he meant how you sell it anonymously outside of bitcoins.

I am working on an adult game atm. The video doesn't show any sex as I didn't want it to be removed.

With patreon if it is an adult game you can't use paypal so the credit card fees are really high. As I only charge 1$ a month about 30% goes to fees.

Link here https://www.patreon.com/vrtitties?ty=h

>>22869

I've heard that quite a few pro manga artists got their start drawing hentai.Only person I know of doing that in the west is ZONE. And I suppose Hunie-Pop counts.

If you want my opinion, I say go for it. If any of your loved ones ask, call it a dating sim.

>>23100

There's also a difference between models for close-up sex, and models for general gameplay. E.g. notice the difference between the "soft" Play Club models and the "hard" Sexy Beach models.

Good western modellers for the former are rare, but for the latter I've managed to hammer some Mixamo models into something that won't make me barf when I look at them. Then the next problem is even the off-the-shelf animations kinda suck.

>>23098

Nice work anon, is that in Unity?