/alpha/ - Self-Improvement and Motivation

>>187
(OP) BTW I'm already seven days in. I think the first three days were the worst so far, as I actually felt very depressed and unstable. I'm doing well right now though. I feel unusually comfortable in public, like in stores, and women look a bit more attractive than before. Also I really feel drawn to making eye contact with girls.

Is this being done to save time/energy, or to make real women seem more attractive? Because if it's the latter, you may benefit even more by simply curbing your Internet use in general.

>>197

I meant to say "the former".

>>197
Dunno, I guess I just want to see if I have the willpower to do it and what the hype is about. I'm keeping my expectations low, but I hope it improves my social confidence, mostly.

>>229

Now you have me curious. You mention feeling "crazy" and "psycho": could you elaborate on what you mean by this? Are you thinking irrational thoughts? Do you have the impulse to do things which are counterproductive?

>>232

Wow man, I thought it was more like, you were just slightly manic or something, maybe derealized/depersonalized or something. I didn't know it was like that. Still though, can you at least force yourself to do the health/exercise stuff you need to do? Maybe the exercise will burn off some of the crazy feelings.

Dammit I fapped. Who knew that abstaining for two weeks would be enough to make a nigga crazy. Probably not going to try again.

>>235

So what's your next project?

And what finally provoked you to fap, if I may be so impolite?

>>235
Well, If its any consolation, you lasted longer than I did.

>4 days

>>235
>>237

I don't mean to distress anyone further, but now that you have both "failed" your initial goal, which had an arbitrary or "artificial" 90-day time frame attached to it, you now have a more "natural", less arbitrary time period to use the next time, should you try this experiment again. You can feel some sense of accomplishment beating the previous time you established when you failed, 2 weeks or 4 days respectively. I like having some sort of "natural" time frame to my goals because I get concerned about setting them impossibly high or unchallengingly low. But once you've failed (or even accomplished) one, you then can set a goal of beating yourself. I guess another "natural" time frame would be to beat another person who has done better than you.

>>236
>And what finally provoked you to fap, if I may be so impolite?
There are just so many titties on the internet.

>>238
> I like having some sort of "natural" time frame to my goals because I get concerned about setting them impossibly high or unchallengingly low.
I like your style.

I guess I'm starting over. Maybe I'll go for 20 days this time.

Been no fapping for like 2 weeks.

Holy fuck when I see a girl with a fat ass I get an instant boner. God damn those bitches with the big booty in the leggins on campus... fuuuccckkkk duuuudddeeee

I feel like I can channel my sexual energy into more productive pursuits

>>249

>I feel like I can channel my sexual energy into more productive pursuits

I've seen people talk about this idea (like Napoleon Hill in Think and Grow Rich), but I wonder if everybody is talking about the same thing as far as how it works. It it a matter of simply being aroused into stimulation, and then using your awake, energetic state to get things done, or is there something more complex about it?

>>235
I don't think fapping is the problem OP. Chronic fapping maybe, but having a fap now and again is natural.

The unnatural thing modern men are trying to break when they engage in NoFap is actually porn. Porn alters your brain chemistry and libido and makes you unable to get hard for real life women.

The real challenge is to engage in NoPorn. Fap if you want but just use your imagination. And imagining porn doesn't count! Just visualizing porn triggers the same dopamine pathways in your brain you've carved over the years watching porn.

Your going to have to reset your brain back to the days of just using your imagination if there ever was such a time for you. It may take some time though. Everyone's different.

When you guys are doing this, do you have trouble sleeping? If so, I would think lack of sleep would sap your motivation more than being relaxed from masturbating.

>>260
This makes sense... going NoPorn + NoFap was maybe too much all at once. I'll definitely try NoPorn only for a while and see what happens.

So is anyone still giving this a go? I rebooted at the beginning of feb, So currently 7 days in.

>>272
Yep, starting over today. I was 9 days into NoPorn but failed today.

Learning to fap without porn is not as easy as I thought it would be. Almost like some part of your brain really believes the porn women are real.

>>273
I can recommend a good website about recovering from porn.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/