/ameta/ - /a/ Meta Discussion

I stream from my NAS :-)

First of all, don't post your IP!

Second of all, >>>/am/

I was banned for streaming anime too.

>>2377

Like any of you nerds could do anything with my IP, it's dynamic anyway

Actually after looking at the /a/ ban list it looks like they banned 4 different people for talking about streaming anime but I don't see anything against in in their rules.

>>2377

/am/ looks a lot better.

Why even complain about a 5 hour ban? Pitching of it as a time out to learn your lesson.

I wouldn't be surprised if you just posted this just to start shit, so whatever

>>2387

Some of us got a 3 day ban.

>>2389

Should have been permanent. Whoever pays for streams is not welcome on /a/.

>>2377

I didn't know this board existed. I'll start using it more often.

>>2392

It's in the damn announcement. Go be pleb elsewhere already.

>>2391

In no way does it affect you.

>>2393

What announcement?

>>2394

>libertarianism

>>>goyddit

>>2395

Yeah you definitely didn't belong here.

>>2397

>muh sekrit club

>>2396

Really? In what way does me using Crunchyroll affect you and make me a libertarian.

Exactly how is streaming off of Crunchyroll worse than torrenting a Horriblesubs rip? How could a reencode ever increase quality?

>>2399

Torrentfags are like SJWs. No point arguing with them. Just move along and keep streaming if that's what you want, even if that offends them :^)

>>2400

It's the same thing except for the meme. Plus buffering, and ads, who gives a shit.

>>2398

You clearly don't know even basic things about the site, yes 'muh sekrit club'.

>>2403

Epic hotwheels' 2nd goal is growth at all costs after free speech. That is why furry and pone are top boards, it is the cancer containment site, the opposite of "secret club".

>>2403

Stay mad nerdyboy ;)

>>2402

I've got pretty fast internet so I don't get buffering. I also don't get the ads.

>>2406

>I also don't get the ads.

confirmed for jewlover subscriptionfag, thanks for war in iran dick

>>2407

I think we should just let the Jews and muslims kill each other.

I am beginning to suspect these are 4chan shills come here to deliberately shitpost so they can take back screencaps of how shit this place is. Meido please keep doing what you're doing, it's working.

>>2409

You're full of shit. It was a thread about an anime and someone said something about crunchy roll and the rest of us asked him about it and got banned.

>>2409

Ikr? /ameta/ is the #1 battleground of the /a/ multiverse. fucking halfchan cuck shills!!!

>>2375

If they are streaming then they don't belong here. I support our glorious meidos.

I'm glad the meidos get rid of these people. Dealing with them myself, or worse, ignoring them, isn't something I come here to do.

>>2426

You're doing a great job BO. Keep doing what you're doing and keep the /v/ermin as unwelcome as possible.

That being said, can mods view posting history on /a/ through their posts on /ameta/?

>>2431

If HM really wanted to he could, since he's a global mod. But he'd have to manually find a post you made on both boards first.

Its a pretty disgraceful ban and with it being solely defended with 'cancer' this and 'cancer' that it makes mockery of having any rules since the only rule becomes think like the mods think.

>>2426

Can I subscribe to your blog?

Streaming is a shitty behaviour and you obnoxiously tell everyone you do it (be it talking how you stream or posting garbage streaming pics) you should be at least a little punished, so you could smarten up and even if you continue this fucking cancer at least not be honest about it, because you know it is looked down upon.

Not that the head maid doesn't seem to be over his head over a thousand other things. If I were on his place I would have called myself Hitler, but still, I would have had more clear understandings of my lines. He is all over the place and frankly doesn't seem to be very sure where he is going.

>>2541

>Not that the head maid doesn't seem to be over his head over a thousand other things. If I were on his place I would have called myself Hitler, but still, I would have had more clear understandings of my lines. He is all over the place and frankly doesn't seem to be very sure where he is going.

You've said nothing actionable, so I can't really respond. I think I've been entirely consistent in my approach, can you nail down any specific flaws, anything it would be possible to do something about?

>>2375

>Crunchyroll shilling

The question is: why you weren't also banned here?

>>2426

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>>2556

Here is two post you might wanna look at >>2553 >>2616 And after then people saying things like >>2617 >>2621 completely ignoring the major point in the first two posts, just makes my head fucking spin.

If you have somehow missed it both in the posts and in the actual reality of 4/a/ and 4chan as a whole, the new generations of mods and janitors are trying to follow the rules of the site very tightly and blindly. The reality is right now 4chan in often is very overmoderated, yet people fucking say that somehow they want that and it wasn't fucking enough or something? It is bullshit. Hell, after the change of the mod system where they can't freely say what they are banning you for, but have to choose one of the rules essentially as a reason, "low quality post" was for week the most used reason for banning people and most of the bans were completely retarded to begin with.

What everyone has to understand that the rules were never important to anyone, but the few newfags that read them and tried to act according to them. Other than that very few things were truly punishable - CP, obvious spam in the form of guro or something else and sometimes making fun of retards that say that they are underage. Things like that. Maybe making a thread about something completely unrelated might sometimes be deleted, but even then often people would turn into somewhat of an /a/ funposting thread. My point is the rules weren't suppose to be the ten fucking commandments of God. They were just around to keep things going on. There was something more important going on, the cultural unwritten rules of behaviour.

For example, a Naruto thread. Obvious anime, why wouldn't be related, right? Nothing against in the rules. But there is something more important than them and that was the cultural acceptance of Naruto. And so from time to time people did get banned for making Naruto threads, but often even that wasn't done. Maybe because the mods were lazy pieces of shit, but maybe even more so because it didn't matter if they get deleted or not (as long as we are not talking about a spam of Naruto threads). Because they were ridiculed to death. Saged, or even not, people would shitpost to their heart contest with dubs and pasts and making fun of it. Even if the OP didn't get banned for a day or more, he would still reconsider doing it again, because it would just not work the way he wants it to do, because the anons would not let such a thing go by without making any serious Naruto poster upset enough to want to leave. Post a screenshot of a stream? A thousand replies laughing at your dumb ass. Recommendation thread? Spammed to death with Buku no Pico. Anything like that.

I will say it again, the rules were there just to keep things clean from the things that hindered the free discussion (in whatever form) of things. With a little extra moderation of actually unwritten things and mostly just anons making sure that anyone who doesn't belong doesn't feel welcomed was more than enough. But a changed occurred. Hard to pinpoint how and when, but maybe just too much of the original posters were replaced and things like self-moderation started disappearing in thread after thread. And with that decreasing the increase of site/board rule moderation come to pay shitting up a lot of the fun in the site.

The board of 8/a/ is small so far, maybe it will become bigger, maybe it won't. But right now it is easy even for a single mod to be able to go through most posts. Even easier considering there is more than one. In some regards you might be trying too hard, especially considering how little there is to do. You are trying to obey the culture, but there is almost some of that rule zealous going on. To me it feels like there is a lot of doubt between rules and culture and overall inconsistency of taken actions I have seen through the months.

>>2710

>>2556

To be honest I don't follow things too much here, even though I come and go almost every day just to check what is going on, but I wouldn't consider it as a lot and I really don't keep a list of stupid things I have seen the mods doing. And as let's be honest a lot of people here, I still visit 4/a/ (for action being able to have more dynamic discussions, really the only reason also so many people from the rest of shitty internet go there), easily more than 8/a/, even though I am limiting myself to how much I explore it, because mostly I just get heart pains by watching the shitshow that it is. And when you put the two 4/a/ and 8/a/ beside each other, I have to say, the differences is not that much. At best/worse 4/a/ has a more rule obedience from the mods and on a bigger scale. But even there magically some nice things are left untouched. For example there was a thread the other day about the change of the elementary school swimsuits in Japan. I am honestly almost surprised that someone didn't decide to deleted. It was far from being the best thread ever or anything, but it was a good example of a thread that should be allowed to exist even if a lot of the conversation might not be 100% anime related. There was talk about if this would affect anime of course, but it easily went in many different topics like politics, ethnicity and all kinds of fun enough even if often absurd discussions. Just stop and think about what a normal thing this has always been. You probably should have even at least a few pics of such threads going to all sorts of crazy topics. This is natural and is okay, it is actually fun has never been a problem in the past. Let's take the example of Maria the Virgin Witch. There was a lot of religion and war discussion in the thread. And during one of the new episodes some retard decided it might be a good idea to try delete that because it wasn't enough /a/. Thankfully people were intelligent enough to shit on him and make fun of his retardness. An anime about religion and war makes people talk about religion and war? If this is not mission accomplished fuck me. And so the threads continued to have fun discussions about religion and war.

>>2711

>>2556

And now I will give another example of a very similar image between here and there, but actually be sure to read/not forget the previous paragraph/s, because it is important to it. Let's talk about the god damn Clannad case of this week. Threads on 4/a/ were deleted pretty fast. Who knows exactly why. Here? Deleted/saged, because "muh /pol/ shitposting." Do you see how this could relate to the previous paragraph? Of course such a topic might related to things like that. It is only nature, anime fans have opinions about other things too. And of course you are going to talk about political correctness when someone got suspended for a fucking image macro of anime. You are trying too hard with this "us and them" newfag board mentality. Let's not forget that boards were created because too many people from an existing one would have this other common thing between them (for example watching anime and playing video games is very much a common thread between anyone from a decade ago to now). And something like having a political opinion is not even something you have to need any special interest towards politic. You just call on ridiculous things as you see them. God forbids. It is bad enough pretending this is the horror of the world, but this is not even the worse. How could you, how in the fucking hell could you even think of taking away from people the freedom to ridicule this? One of the things we have always done the best and we have had the most fun with - making fun of stupid things and having a blast doing it. How many fucking times have we laughed our asses when some stupid Naruto fanboy has killed himself out of Naruto depression or trying to become a sandman? How often have we went crazy after someone mentions us on TV? But, not. Fuck all of this. Because not anime and/or too much /pol/ or some other stupid shit. And you might dare to say "B-But I left one thread on autosage! You can post in it!" as if the act itself doesn't show how the moderation thing is against something like that, something so natural to "old /a/." And so maybe people don't go deep enough into the pages to find/post in a thread that is being autosaged, or maybe maybe you know what, you just might be right to so do. Maybe you are right to do all you are doing, considering that there is plenty people wanting to suck you off for it. I guess it is very possible that even if there were people that truly saw hope in this place and to revive the old spirit, and I am certain I saw some months ago, most have left by know, because they got disappointed or just never had much hope to begin with and what they saw happening here wasn't very hopeful anyway. I guess it is very much possible that 8/a/ is really actually just kids that want to be even more hipster than 4/a/ and use phrases like "old /a/" just as a meme to prove something now.

I spend long enough writing this shit. Take whatever you will from it, but try to at least reconsider the differences and importance of the rule moderation and the cultural moderation. It certainly might be a challenge to balance things out, but if you want to actually make something worthwhile you will have to. And the anons will and have to play a big role in keeping things together, but you as the admin have to show them the proper way from time to time, or otherwise they might also get lazy, lose their way or simple be replaced by too many people that do not understand these things. At the end you should look at this is a small community, or country or whatever. Everyone has to contributed to it staying both healthy and fun. You are here to keep some of the big chunks of health around, while the anons will have to never forget to have fun, but also look after staying healthy themselves.

>>2712

>Let's talk about the god damn Clannad case of this week. Threads on 4/a/ were deleted pretty fast. Who knows exactly why. Here? Deleted/saged, because "muh /pol/ shitposting."

No. it was deleted because it had nothing to do with anime or manga.

Kill yourself, you fucking retarded faggot.

Didn't even bother reading the rest.

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>>2710

Dude fuck off with your /int/ memes

>>2710

>>2711

>>2712

So I guess you came to /a/ in 2013?

Saged

>>2721

>Saged.

What the hell, /ameta/?

>>2726

>go to /ameta/

>expect good posters

I am quoting nobody whatsoever.

>>2752

Touché, Anonymous. Touché.

>>2417

maybe if they pretend long enough the real /a/ users will come to the board. Unless you had another strategy?

>>2426

pretty apologetic for a non-apology

>>2375

This is probably the worst ban I have ever seen for anything ever.

I can't sugarcoat that.

I've seen bullshit SA and Neogaf bans that look good compared to this.

I don't think even 7chan would have made a ban this ridiculous.

>>2726

We just need to pray for his soul. No big deal.

>>3074

I've seen plenty of streaming bans on 4chan. You're not wrong though.

>>3141

They're not even doing a good job at it. I've hidden the first two-three pages.

>>2710

>>2711

>>2712

It fucking breaks my heart when I see such well written posts get shit on by absolute scum and not even acknowledged properly

>>3144

Being consistent is the last thing your mods care about. They might as well allow shitposting altogether if they're going to be this arbitrary.

> Even in 4/a/, where streaming is looked down upon, people don't get banned.

You're right, there you only get banned for calling people faggots or posting clothed lolis or telling cancer to fuck off or posting image macros that are too old for the newfag hotpocketeers to remember.

>>3211

>or posting image macros that are too old for the newfag hotpocketeers to remember.

You get banned for that on 8/a/ too.

>>3215

I'd like to see an example of this.

>Why do I get banned for having "wrong" opinions?

Dude, have you ever been on any form of privately owned online communication network before?

Admins who ban you for disagreeing is the NORM.

To answer your question, you get banned because administrators extremely narcissistic so they leave no room opinions they disagree with. Just leave the community instead of feeding these losers egos. Let the admins ban everyone until it becomes a shitty hivemind or ghost town like IRC.

Why is banning for streaming a bad thing?

They tell you to go to another board that tolerates ignorance of quality.

I'm just passing through but it seems to me, and from others who have posted it, that this /a/ is doing it's best to be the elitist /a/ that 4/a/ failed to be.

It's providing a service for making a community tailored to elitism, whereas 4chan wants anyone who isn't scared away by mean comments and loli.

Why get upset at a place that wants to seclude itself from the people that should go somewhere else, especially when there are plenty of other boards and sites to go to?

>>3246

The problem is they aren't being elitist enough and the self-moderation is even more lacking.

>>3074

yep, agreed whole-heartedly. People shouldn't be banned for their opinions.

>>3246

0/10