cc7819 No.2458
What the fuck is happening? Why is the board losing users non-stop?
d140b4 No.2459
It's because it's not >>2455
cc7819 No.2460
>>2459
/a/ has never been under /k/. This is the first time that happens in the entire history of 8chan.
d140b4 No.2461
>>2460
Even if /k/ picks up speed that doesn't mean /a/'s dying.
cc7819 No.2462
>>2460
It's the lowest fucking number of users in months still. It wasn't supposed to be this low.
531e06 No.2463
>>2462
Who told you how high it was supposed to be?
cc7819 No.2464
cc7819 No.2465
>>2463
>I'm okay with my board dying, let's do anything about it!
cc7819 No.2466
>>2465
>let's not do
Fix'd.
d140b4 No.2467
>>2465
Please, share your stunning analysis of the situation and your brilliant insights as to what should be done to fix it. Does it involve dethroning the mods, by any chance?
531e06 No.2468
>>2465
Seems pretty healthy to me. Broad range of topics, higher quality of posts than half/a/, etc. If you care so much about posts per hour just go back to 4chan you ADHD-having fuck
cc7819 No.2469
>>2467
I would have know about what's the cause of the massive drop in users. I don't know about what caused it yet.
>>2468
You are the cancer that's killing 8chan. End yourself.
531e06 No.2470
>>2469
>how fast the board is is more important than the quality of posts
You are the cancer that killed 4chan and is going to kill this site too. Good thing the mods on /a/ are actually competent and delete shitty threads like yours when reported. You're not dragging this site down with you.
cc7819 No.2471
>>2470
>you can't have quality and decent traffic at the same time!
End yourself x2. elitist fuck. There is elitism that is beneficial to the board and there is elitism that is harmful. Your is the latter.
531e06 No.2473
>>2471
Please tell me how high our traffic is supposed to be. It wasn't supposed to be this low, apparently, so how high was it supposed to be? What magic arbitrary number of PPH or UIDs is objectively the number we must be at to meet your satisfaction?
cc7819 No.2474
>>2473
Around 600 users + whatever PPH, since that doesn't seem to have a strong correlation with the number of users.
d140b4 No.2475
>>2474
See >>2455
We ARE around ~600 users.
cc7819 No.2476
>>2475
I meant in the current system obviously. I don't know how either of them work/worked though.
c7e93f No.2477
The board has 513 "active users" as of the time of this writing. The board normally fluctuates between 550 and 650 users with the occasional excursion in either direction.
While 513 is not a number one would consider normal, keep in mind that "active users" is now counted in blocks of /16, not true unique IP addresses as was the case in the past.
Saying that we "had" 600+ people in the past or that we have "only" 500 people now is not entirely accurate, as in the past people with dynamic IP addresses would have artificially inflated our numbers, whereas now not only is that not the case but any two or more people in the same area with the same ISP will only be counted as one person.
5fec0d No.2478
/a/'s PPH was always low because the /v/edditor faggots that a good deal of the board is populated by don't have much to talk about there, since they only watch anime very casually. But yeah, this drop in users does seems weird. It might have to do with some people checking out on /monster/ or migrating to /am/.
c7e93f No.2479
>>2477
To add to this, yes it is still the case that since the switch to the new counting system we have had up to 620 active users and we are significantly lower, but when you consider the fact that we were listed as being at 650-700 before that I would say that 513 is a decent number.
TL;DR we're not far from where we were before, if it keeps dropping then you can panic.
cc7819 No.2480
>>2477
>>2478
But /a/ is still losing the users that it gained over that span of time. I don't see why anyone would be okay with this happening. The board does need more traffic. Quality can still be maintained at a good level with proper moderation.
677c8e No.2481
Pretty much all the boards sitewide besides /v/pol/gamergatehq/ are dropping pretty fast. Nothing to worry about though.
6c11cb No.2482
Man, these threads are depressing. I don't want /a/nons to go away, I want to stay with them here.
5fec0d No.2483
>>2481
>the whole site is fucking dying besides the garbage meme boards that 8ch is famous for
>nothing to worry about
Nigger…
677c8e No.2484
>>2483
Yeah that was a pretty poor choice of words
In any case, all we need to do is wait for 4ch mods to fuck up somewhere
6c11cb No.2487
>>2484
>In any case, all we need to do is wait for 4ch mods to fuck up somewhere
What can we do besides that? I'm fine with slow boards, but a bit more activity would be nice.
5fec0d No.2488
>>2484
Isn't it kind of sad that you have to rely on someone else fucking up for your site to stay alive? 8ch needs to make itself relevant outside of the GG shit now that it's practically irrelevant by now, or else the site will just slowly die out.
013fea No.2489
I'm tired of 8ch and maybe imageboards in general. I think I'm gonna quit the internet for a while. For funsies I took all my threads with me.
2559e9 No.2490
>>2465
>>2480
How new are you? The board has fluctuated massively between 450 and 750 active users in the past, so stop chimping out over >holy shit guys we're down to 520 active users in the middle of the week something is terribly wrong! It doesn't mean shit, the only time I'd ever begin to be worried about this is if we fall below ~450 active users which we both know won't happen as the weekend is coming up which pretty much always results in a 100-150 jump in unique IPs.
So stop trying to push >it's d-dead guys! t-there's slightly less posters than usual so everyone abandon ship! down anons' throat. It's obnoxious as fuck, and considering that /a/ has survived far worse situations (with far more of this defeatist bullshit being pushed) in the past it just gives me the impression that you haven't been here for that long. I mean really, do you even remember the trainwreck that caused the shift of /a/ meta shit to /ameta/ in the first place?
>>2483
http://stats.4ch.net/8chan/allboards.php
>Posts per week has fluctuated around 490k-500k since the start of the year and shows no noticeable drop over time
8chan isn't dying. Pointing to third party websites that everyone knows aren't very reliable in the first place (like >>2481) doesn't change the fact that PPH has remained solid since the start of the year. On top of that we're doing far better than we did last year (up from 330k-400k PPW last year) and we've actually had some very high PPHs recently (getting up to ~4.6k PPH) that I don't recall seeing since moot's resignation/the first exodus.
The site is more than healthy, just because we haven't had anything much happen recently to draw in fresh users (in comparison to all the shit that happened at the start of the year - moot's resignation, irc janitor logs, that SVU episode, Lizardsquad DDOS and /baph/-related happenings, etc.) doesn't mean we'll be dead in 5 months as most the faggots here don't have anywhere else they'd rather be. So strap the fuck in sperglord, we're here for the long haul whether you like it or not.
>>2488
Faggots relying on halfchan to get new traffic are doing far more harm than good, but regardless of what occurs there we'll likely grow in the future as we have a decent userbase and provide features that few sites rival. The only other website comparable to 8ch which actually has a solid userbase is plebbit, but plebbit has a myriad of issues that make it very unattractive for a number of people (karma system, shitty pseudo-anonymity, overbearing corporate as fuck pandering-to-lowest-common-denominator administration, little customization, muh rules, SRS and SJ bullshit, etc.).
And that's where a site like 8ch comes in. We'll pick up new users and small communities (like /egy/) every now and then and that's really how we should be aiming to grow, rather than counting on halfchan to fuck up even harder than usual. Which they probably will anyway considering moot is trying to sell the site (resulting in more retarded moderation decisions), but whatever.
ef406b No.2491
UIP still going down. It's gonna be below 520 by the end of the day.
c7e93f No.2492
>>2490
>like /egy/
Basically this. What we have now are a number of groups that don't have much imageboard presence elsewhere or have made their own here (for better or worse) such as /furry/, /egy/, /baphomet/, /leftypol/, /christian/, /cow/, etc., not to mention the pedo boards. While I'm not sure they'd sustain themselves if everybody got up and left, I can see a future for the site as a place for niche communities at the very worst.
c7e93f No.2493
>>2491
It was already at 513 this morning, see >>2477
677c8e No.2494
>>2490
>http://stats.4ch.net/8chan/allboards.php
All that means is that there's more shitposting and spamming
PPH doesn't mean shit. /int/ has a high PPH, doesn't make it a great board.
Why do you think top 25 ranking changed from PPH to UIPs?
5fec0d No.2495
>>2490
Like the other anon above me said, PPH has very little to do with how many people visit a place. /pol/ lost a few users after the mods went full retard yet rised in PPH because of increased amount of shitposting and circlejerking for example.
>>2492
I don't care about any of these trash boards though. They can all die along with the rest of the website for all I care.
Also, I don't visit 8/a/ anymore either, but I respect you more than other boards here like /pol/, /v/, /int/, /co/, GG faggots, etc. I wouldn't celebrate if you fell of the top 10 to make room for even more cancerous shit.
2559e9 No.2496
>>2492
I really like that aspect of 8chan. It's fun to see what boards pop up over time (like /monster/ and /christian/) as every now and then something pretty fucking interesting comes along. And occasionally you'll see these new boards influencing established board culture elsewhere and you get all that warm fuzzy shit going on.
>>2494
>All that means is that there's more shitposting and spamming
(no evidence provided)
Sasuga funposter-kun.
>PPH doesn't mean shit. /int/ has a high PPH, doesn't make it a great board.
PPH means there's something for lurkers to read, and to keep coming back for. PPH means that other anons see that the board is meaningfully active (or not) and decide whether or not to get involved as a result. PPH is important as fug as it's the stream of novel content across the site, with a low PPH there's little reason for anons to come back regularly as they know there probably won't be much new shit to read, which ends up with people slowly forgetting about a board altogether (>tfw /baka/). While you're right that it doesn't make a board good, PPH arguably matters more than UIPs when it comes to growth (at least for the size /a/ and most other boards here are at).
>Why do you think top 25 ranking changed from PPH to UIPs?
Because boards with a higher number of UIPs interest a proportionally larger part of 8chin's userbase, so arranging them such that the boards with the highest number of UIPs are most visible is the logical approach. More people would be interested in /n/ and /tech/ over /aneki/ and /homosuck/ due to higher UIPs (in spite of lower PPH), hence they should be more visible on the site to make it easier for the majority to navigate. The former point that PPH/apparent activity (rate of new content, etc.) matters more to actual board survival than UIPs still stands, as what ultimately determines whether someone sticks around long term is if a place looks active and not whether it actually has a large userbase (if it's slow as fug regardless of a high number of UIPs than the shit detailed in the prior paragraph happens).
>>2495
What boards do you visit here?
5fec0d No.2497
>>2496
Used to go to /pol/ before it became shit. Now I only visit /tech/, /lit/ and occasionally check on /his/ and /monster/.
For my anime/manga discussion needs, I only use 4/a/. Why do I visit this board too even though I'm not a 8/a/ user you ask? Because a lot of people here are cool-headed and are willing to discuss about the issues affecting 4/a/ as well instead of being irrational shits like the GG retards who are still trying to force the SJW boogeyman into everything.
2559e9 No.2498
>>2497
/pol/ tends to fluctuate between pretty awful and decent nowadays. I feel like the change from the old BO/BVs helped it a fair bit though as the new volunteers seem more relaxed and intervene less than the old ones, but ultimately that doesn't mean much when the userbase still gets caught up in the same retarded threads over and over.
Also, check out /irc/'s /a/ threads if you haven't already. There's some pretty autistic shitflinging and they get derailed by yurifags at parts, but if you want to read up on 4/a/'s moderation you'll probably find them interesting.
d140b4 No.2499
>>2496
>More people would be interested in /n/ and /tech/ over /aneki/ and /homosuck/ due to higher UIPs
You seriously have no idea what you're talking about, no one wants to use those boards because they're cancer, sorting them higher isn't going to drive more traffic to them. Ultimately what you're saying is you think every anon out there is a mindless drone incapable of considering for himself what boards he'd like to visit, clumping on the top boards solely because they're popular. The fact that boards can spring up overnight and overtake well established boards should in itself be sufficient to prove you wrong.
cc7819 No.2501
>>2500
I can't believe you were actually being optimistic earlier.
The board is fucking doomed man. And I don't even know why it's happening.
ef406b No.2502
>>2501
Maybe we can talk about anime on /ameta/ instead. /a/ is so fucking slow, it's been frozen on the front page for the past 6 hours.
438d75 No.2503
Well the PPH seem to be around the same for the hour of the day we're currently on.
Still, it is weird how we've dropped this much. Heck /am/ isn't increasing in numbers either, not by much anyway, so it's not movement internal to 8ch.
d140b4 No.2504
>>2503
My gut says /a/ has just come down with a bad case of the lazies. I personally have been barely posting at all lately. It's not that I stopped caring, or that I've moved elsewhere, it's just that I'm a little burnt out from so much /a/ this past 8 months. I have no intention of pissing off back to 4/a/, I just want to idle and lurk a bit. I expect others are feeling the same way.
Reading /ameta/ with its perpetual defeatism regardless of how good/bad the board is actually doing doesn't help things, I think.
c7e93f No.2505
>>2504
I'll admit to doing this somewhat, I post more here than on /a/ simply because I get tired of seeing people complaining.
b9dba8 No.2506
OP here. I got banned globally by an /a/ mod for linking to this thread there: >>>/operate/17830
Can we just abandon ship already? Things are not looking good.
07b5ff No.2507
>>2506
Reported for ban evasion.
d140b4 No.2508
>>2505
Yeah. I still browse, but honestly since coming to 8/a/ I finally started working on my backlog, to the point where I'm watching more anime than I have in a long time. But, I'm doing that instead of posting on /a/ about it, just watching anime by myself.
438d75 No.2510
>>2504
I dunno. It is worrying though.
Last time it was this low was during the shitstorm with the /pol/ guy and the straight week of him starting a meta drama every day.
07b5ff No.2511
>>2509
No, I don't think I will.
b9dba8 No.2512
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
It's going to fall below fucking /cuteboys/ at this rate. I've never seen a board nosedive like this before.
ef406b No.2513
>>2512
I was gonna say what if HW is pulling a prank or something but then I realized that there really is no fucking discussion on the board.
677c8e No.2514
>>2512
Is this /a/'s lowest point?
Well, I'm sure the traffic will pick up eventually
438d75 No.2516
>>2514
Nope. We were close to the 300s at one point.
That said, there was a reason for that. This time, there doesn't appear to be any.
And again, there isn't even an exodus to another animu board happening, so I honestly don't get it. I'd get it if /am/ was picking up, or /baka/ or something, but nothing's happening on that end.
792dc8 No.2518
>>2516
I barely post on either 4chan or 8chan cause I just don't like the season. Summer has a lot more stuff I'm looking forward to.
438d75 No.2519
>>2518
You should at least watch Kekkai Sensen.
792dc8 No.2522
>>2519
The only thing I was thinking of picking up is Show By Rock, some of the music sounds good and people seem to say it's cute. Kekkai Sensen just looks like another boring fujoshit in the city show like durarara or K.
438d75 No.2526
>>2522
One, you're shit for not watching Durarara because of the fujoshit that naturally gathers around any show with a bishie character.
Two, it's got nothing to do with Durarara.
a4f81e No.2530
Well the drop could be from final exams for some people in school (My Uni exams ended a week ago but who knows with some schools). Or anons might just not be posting like >>2504 said. Either way with the weekend coming up there should be a rise in traffic. If not then that would be a worrying sign.
dc45cc No.2548
Holy fuck you're down to 473
677c8e No.2549
>>2548
So long as we're in the top 10 and above /cuteboys/ I'm fine
33fb82 No.2550
Honestly, you guys realize that the majority of your user base is just /v/ and /pol/ right? You can't expect to enforce '/a/ culture' and keep a high amount of users because the majority of users aren't even from 4/a/. That being said, I'd rather have a slow board then give in to /pol/ tier posting for the sake of speed.
438d75 No.2570
4ceeec No.2583
>>2516
Your board sucks. It's a boring, sterile, overmoderated hellhole. Figure out what is staring you in the face.
792dc8 No.2587
>>2550
I identify with /pol/ the most but don't really talk about it anyone else and I watch pretty much everything every season. Not sure what's wrong with that.
3790b9 No.2601
Just a heads up in case no one noticed we are been hit by defeatist type shills.
Since ameta is the containment board for them its advisable to ignore everything they say and continue posting on /a/.
They will most likely advocate an overthrow of the BO or the meidos
or
Push for an alternative /a/ most likely controlled by them
677c8e No.2606
>>2601
Then there's this faggot
3790b9 No.2612
>>2607
ID's truly are a beautiful thing.
ef406b No.2613
>>2612
>circular reasoning
Take your fear mongering somewhere else. Nobody is going to make yet another fucking /a/ board and shill you into it. This is the last straw. At least for me.
33fb82 No.2618
>>2587
You are the minority unfortunately.
a846f3 No.2619
Traffic whores probably went back to half/a/.
a846f3 No.2620
>>2607
He's right though.
The same thing happened with /pol/ btw and I noticed myself some cuck apologists in /ameta/.
677c8e No.2623
>>2620
I mean, the guy pretty much straight up said he only comes to /ameta/ because it's a safe zone to talk about meta drama on 4/a/ and only goes to 8/lit/, so not seeing how he's some undercover agent or something
a846f3 No.2625
>>2623
See
>>838
There are several more examples of cuckies wasting bandwidth to come rub in our face "how much better cuck/a/ is" and how "SJW mods takeover of halfchan and moot being a cuck are tinfoil conspiracy theories".
a846f3 No.2626
>>2623
>>2625
Also:
>>2557
These cucks are not even trying to hide.
677c8e No.2631
>>2625
This thread >>838 came about when /ameta/ was young a long ass time ago. Not to mention at the time it was made, it was 100 percent corrent. A newfag who only came to /ameta/ because you say some threads on /operate/ wouldn't understand
>>2626
And that's the same dude who only comes to /ameta/ to talk meta shit and openly favors 4chan, not exactly some high level subterfuge
a846f3 No.2637
>>2631
>A newfag who only came to /ameta/ because you say some threads on /operate/ wouldn't understand
Uhm… What?
677c8e No.2642
>>2637
I stand corrected, you come here from /pol/ >>>/pol/2073206 figured there was a secret goon invasion and came blazing in thinking you understand any of the drama going on at /a/
a846f3 No.2647
>>2642
I went to /pol/ from here, stupid.
a846f3 No.2648
>>2642
>goon invasion
No need to go so paranoid when cuckchan shills are literally declaring their identity and purpose.
677c8e No.2669
>>2648
>>2649
I think I should have put goon invasion in square quotes to emphasize my sarcasm
792dc8 No.2701
>>2642
That's a cringeworthy thread.
>>2648
I still go to 4chan, and a few smaller IB's.
951e9b No.3514
bb0310 No.3516
>>2669
You're dealing with dedicated retards who refuse to admit any possible problems with /a/ and come here to fight the good fight. What do you expect?
18f5e4 No.3517
>>3516
fix the problems yourself. why expect strangers who don't even know who you are to make you happy. make yourself happy mother fucker
bb0310 No.3518
>>3517
>fix the problem of mods banning legitimate content and discussion myself
I avoid that problem by visiting actually good alt /a/ boards and sites, and recruiting in places where people might be interested. None of that is going to save 8/a/.
18f5e4 No.3519
>>3518
yeah, well good job. if it doesn't have much to do with 8ch /a/ why even try to bring it up here? you already make it obvious that you want others to go to wherever but sticking around to pull some snake shit after being called out is pretty gay. the people who will stay will stay and you should let the people who are butthurt come naturally to you then to instead of making yourselves share your misery with each other without improving and staying the same low level person. Are you scared for not posting quality content? so what. you just go somewhere else no one is going to chase you and call you a loser
18f5e4 No.3520
>>3518
if you have trouble assimilating, complaining does not help much if you can't understand why you're having trouble in the first place. this is an 18+ board anyways so self filtering, self monitoring or moderating should have been learned by the time you reached that age and if you're sporadic the mods will take care of that for you. I'm sure the mods see my behavior and they delete my shit that's against the rules and I have only been banned once for saying something straight from Xbox live. "not into your fantasies lil gay boi" something like that.
bb0310 No.3521
>>3519
>>3520
Holy shit you've been doing this for a while now, get it together.
18f5e4 No.3522
>>3521
It's fun to release
18f5e4 No.3523