/ameta/ - /a/ Meta Discussion

>>3162

>>3163

how embarrassing

>>>/a/243922

>>>/a/243937

>>3160

>>3162

Just in case you want an example of SJW moderation

https://archive.moe/a/thread/125618883

>loli threads getting autosaged again

Here's two threads complaining about newfaggotry on 4/a/ as well.

https://archive.moe/a/thread/125873501/

https://archive.moe/a/thread/125711407/

>>3162

may as well re-link since I fucked that up as well

>>3160

If you're still here 4anon, don't expect a reply anytime soon, I'm too tired to continue this.

>>3165

Oh sorry, I didn't see this post until now. I think this one got autosaged because of the huge amount of off-topic shitposting in it and metashit everywhere. One of their mods did say to keep the threads on topic, don't blog, don't post NSFW content, etc. If that happens again without any apparent justifiable reason to autosage or delete the thread, then I'll admit you're right. I wouldn't count on the lolifags migrating to this place though. An alternative has yet to arise if more problems regarding that start to happen again.

>>3167

>I don't see why would you think I'm lying about it though.

I don't think you are, I've just been looking through the archive and really can't find a consensus on it. So, in the absence of that, I think google impressions are as good a metric as any, since they at least judge new interest better than Alexa.

>The point is that 8/a/ is simply worse. And it's not like the 8/a/ mods are saints either.

I really don't understand this mentality, you can just make your own board here, and even keep it hidden, so you don't have to worry so much about crossboarders.

>Have you forgotten about the shitstorm involving the /pol/ anon who got banned wrongly some months ago?

No, and the owner is certainly a top-tier hotpcketeer who seems to revel in banning people, but /a/ getting mad over "pol/shit is nothing new.

>Niggerwood had a part in this?

Not hard to find him in /v/ flavor of the season shows, and occasionally in big three threads. But, as I recall, he was always assumed to be responsible for saging loli threads.

>This is literally GG, /v/ and /pol/: the chan. They were the only people who immigrated in signifcant numbers.

I'm not denying it, but I think it's a bad argument. 4chan is literally /b/, /v/ and sometimes /pol/ the chan. We do probably do get more crossboarders, but honestly, /a/ is slow enough that they just talk about anime on /v/.

>Cite me a few present-day examples of 4/a/'s moderation being "SJW's"

https://archive.moe/a/thread/125903593/#q125903818

Did you not this post being deleted in your example?

https://archive.moe/a/thread/125903593/#q125903818

Not to sound paranoid, but mods have interfered in threads they ordinarily allow when it suited them, one of the major spurs of the exodus was the mods (allegedly) making a really obvious tumblr thread on /v/, I think, and then publically banning the OP and leaving it up so people could circlejerk over the mods.

>So why wasn't the /v/edditor faggot whom I linked in my post banned, eh?

Probably no-one reported it, and it's in the owner's interest to leave posts like that up so long as they're in the minority so he can get UIDs/PPH. Not justifying it.

>correlation which doesn't imply causation

At least it's something though.

>Also, plot twist: post your face when the first reply is me.

boku no Tor posting restrictions, I can't.

>>3168

>Oh sorry, I didn't see this post until now. I think this one got autosaged because of the huge amount of off-topic shitposting in it and metashit everywhere

Honestly, that sounds like wishful thinking to me. It keeps happening, and Daiz seems to derail every thread he's in with impunity without fear of another ban or autosaging the thread.

>>3181

>I really don't understand this mentality, you can just make your own board here, and even keep it hidden, so you don't have to worry so much about crossboarders.

Too bad not everyone thinks like you do. 8ch has already made it's reputation of being a /v/ermin and GG nest. It isn't going to attract any more users from other boards that didn't have a relation with GG in some level.

>No, and the owner is certainly a top-tier hotpcketeer who seems to revel in banning people, but /a/ getting mad over "pol/shit is nothing new.

The previous owner was even worse in this aspect. And the first one was a tranny degenerate who tweeted SJW articles (very ironic considering you like to accuse 4/a/'s mods of being SJW's so much, isn't it?). The board has an extremely bad track record regarding it's mods and owner. Why people haven't jumped ship yet I don't know, This shit system made by Cripplekike doesn't work. People are too attached to legacy names.

>But, as I recall, he was always assumed to be responsible for saging loli threads.

Yes, but I've never heard of him being involved in the Nurutu shitstorm before.

>Did you not this post being deleted in your example?

What? No. I see as an argument against it. The fuck, dude.

>Not to sound paranoid, but mods have interfered in threads they ordinarily allow when it suited them, one of the major spurs of the exodus was the mods (allegedly) making a really obvious tumblr thread on /v/, I think, and then publically banning the OP and leaving it up so people could circlejerk over the mods.

So you would rather see them leaving the thread alone? What the hell, man. They didn't even do what you're talking about, they just deleted it normally like it should be.

>Honestly, that sounds like wishful thinking to me. It keeps happening, and Daiz seems to derail every thread he's in with impunity without fear of another ban or autosaging the thread.

So far, it didn't happen again through all of these days and numerous threads that have been made about the subject, but let's see. If it starts to happen again, then maybe it'll trigger an exodus to another chan. Like I said, I don't think they'll bother coming here since the site is associated with so many negative things to them.

>>3183

>Too bad not everyone thinks like you do. 8ch has already made it's reputation of being a /v/ermin and GG nest. It isn't going to attract any more users from other boards that didn't have a relation with GG in some level.

I've really got to wonder how long you're been here. 8ch is full of niche boards like /cow/, /furry/, /legion/, /waifuist/, /cyber/, /christian/, /monster/, /4chon/, etc. that all came from places other than 4chan and have nothing to do with GG. Even most legacy boards have nothing to do with it, and some boards like /cow/ and /baphomet/ have no problem shitting on it. Hell, none of the above even have a relationship to /v/.

> And the first one was a tranny degenerate who tweeted SJW articles (very ironic considering you like to accuse 4/a/'s mods of being SJW's so much, isn't it?)

At least we can get rid of our mods when they fuck up, and easily migrate with open-source code. Meanwhile on 4freechan

>

>What? No. I see as an argument against it. The fuck, dude.

>someone points out troid's faggotry

>post deleted

>I see as an argument against it

nigger what

>So you would rather see them leaving the thread alone? What the hell, man. They didn't even do what you're talking about, they just deleted it normally like it should be.

It happened after the exodus was underway and only accelerated it. It was a desperate attempt to get us back.

Here's two examples from /v/, since I can't find own cap

https://archive.moe/v/thread/271140237/

https://archive.moe/v/thread/267375278/

>Like I said, I don't think they'll bother coming here since the site is associated with so many negative things to them.

Then why does half/a/ keep coming here? /ameta/, /operate/ and /meta/ have been overflowing with "8/a/ is /v/eddit shit please come back to 4chan" for months.

>>3189

>Then why does half/a/ keep coming here? /ameta/, /operate/ and /meta/ have been overflowing with "8/a/ is /v/eddit shit please come back to 4chan" for months.

Easy, they're 8chan trolls and they're the kind of posts that people keep eating up, God knows I like to do it as well

As a whole, I don't think 4chan anons really care too much about 8chan at the moment

>>3190

>As a whole, I don't think 4chan anons really care too much about 8chan at the moment

No, they really are that butthurt.

https://archive.moe/_/search/text/8gag/

>>3191

Man, wonder how many results you'd get for "cuckchan" and "halfchan" if there were properly working archives enabled here

>>3192

>>3193

It's almost as though all references to 8chan and most variations on that are an autoban.

>they have a board dedicated to bitching about us

>they come here in a desperate attempt to bring us back

top kek, if you fags weren't butthurt, you wouldn't be here

>>3195

? You're not making sense here friend, can't make head or tails out of your post

>>3196

References to 8ch are removed, so obviously you will find less of them.

Halfchan is a great nickname and the idea that anyone can get upset by it makes it worth repeating whenever you need to talk about halfchan.

>>3196

It's more readable than yours, which is just poor bait. No 8anon is going to troll a meta board, since everyone knows no-one ever reads them to begin with.

>>3198

I think it's fair enough to say that 8chan likes to talk about 4chan a bit more than the other way around, don't you?

And in any case why do you assume I'm trolling? I contribute plenty to 8/a/ and like to check up on /ameta/ to see how people are feeling once in a while. We're just shooting the shit, aren't we?

Should probably easy up on the conspiracy theories there. Not everyone's out to get you and steal "dat huge traffic" 8/a/ is well-known for.

>>3200

Come on, no one talks like that here. If you're this desperate for replies, head over to /pol/ or /gamergatehq/ and trip their shill alarms.

>>3201

>implying I don't already fuck with /pol/ and /gamergate/

Nah, this /a/ is pretty cool. I wouldn't do anything to mess with it. We're just talking, nothing more than that. Is there something wrong with the way I talk?

>>3202

>Is there something wrong with the way I talk?

Did you really think anyone would bite on this, anon?

>>3200

>Should probably easy up on the conspiracy theories there. Not everyone's out to get you and steal "dat huge traffic" 8/a/ is well-known for.

If you're going to b8, at least do it in one of the other threads here where people care about traffic, like this one.

>>3202

>>3203

>like this one

forgot to quote

>>2458

>>3203

Wasn't baiting to get responses at all, just curious why you feel so strongly about the way I talk.

And I'm not trying to start a debate about traffic at all, I just think it's weird you think I'm here to get more posters on 4/a/. God knows the board doesn't need any more.

>>3205

>just curious why you feel so strongly about the way I talk

Last reply you're getting out of me, more for the benefit of newfags than anyone else.

>>3190

No one other than the /int/ brigade cares about metashit, and even they give up as soon as a thread hits /meta/. The only place this particular autism is coming from is halfchan, there's been a group of them posting "8chan is dying/about to die because of /v/eddit" type stuff since at least November, because they can't bear to see people actually leave halfchan.

>>3193

8chan and it's variants were autobanned on half, creating an environment where anyone who even acknowledged the site exists was banned and forced here, leading to a massive circlejerk, and halfchan has never been a slur here, so comparing it cuckchan or 8gag is just stupid.

>>3189

>I've really got to wonder how long you're been here. 8ch is full of niche boards like /cow/, /furry/, /legion/, /waifuist/, /cyber/, /christian/, /monster/, /4chon/, etc. that all came from places other than 4chan and have nothing to do with GG. Even most legacy boards have nothing to do with it, and some boards like /cow/ and /baphomet/ have no problem shitting on it. Hell, none of the above even have a relationship to /v/.

Some of them are made of crossboarders from the other boards that were affected by the GG scandal, like 8/a/ for example. Others don't make up a significant part of the userbase. /furry/ is the only exception.

>At least we can get rid of our mods when they fuck up, and easily migrate with open-source code. Meanwhile on 4freechan

So why did nobody do that, eh? Admit it, this system doesn't work. Split boards never survive.

>someone points out troid's faggotry

>post deleted

Oh sorry. I only saw that post just now. Anyway, at least the thread was deleted along with it right after. It would be much worse if it was actually left up, don't you think?

>It happened after the exodus was underway and only accelerated it. It was a desperate attempt to get us back.

Yeah, but that didn't happen in this case. It was deleted normally.

>Then why does half/a/ keep coming here? /ameta/, /operate/ and /meta/ have been overflowing with "8/a/ is /v/eddit shit please come back to 4chan" for months.

Well, me because I'm not a exclusive 4/a/ user. I still browse some 8ch boards. I wouldn't be here if not for that.

>>2990

Posters in /q/ were constantly jockeying for attention of the staff. Many people had an ulterior motive in the form of enacting change for their home board.

As a board without a purpose /qa/ attracts less of the hardcore board police types which means less people aggressively pushing their views and all the other assorted tripe that came with such folks.

>>3207

>Some of them are made of crossboarders from the other boards that were affected by the GG scandal

Not a single board I listed had anything to do with GG, except maybe /christian/.

>/cow/

Latest incarnation of /cwc/, here because 888chan died.

>/furry/

Apparently here because of drama on furfag chans, though I don't know much.

>/legion/, /waifuist/

The first user-created boards here, and /legion/ migrated from 4/co/ a year before GG.

>/cyber/

/tech/ offshoot, and /tech/ is aggressively non-political. They came here because they hated the state of /g/, and could have just as easily gone to lainchan.

>/christian/

Composed partially of christian trolls from /pol/, and partially of apparent believers. Fair to say it's a majority crossboarder board.

>/monster/

No idea, but I'm guessing an /a/ offshoot.

>/4chon/

Here because 4chon died.

>/baphomet/

Script kiddy central, relishes in getting GG blamed for everything they do.

>Others don't make up a significant part of the userbase

I don't understand this fixation with traffic, almost all of those boards are self-contained communities, so of course they aren't a significant number.

>So why did nobody do that, eh? Admit it, this system doesn't work. Split boards never survive.

/gg/ -> /gamergate/ -> /gamergatehq/ is the most recent example. The problem is with 4chan legacy boards, where migrations work in the short term, but everyone eventually comes back because of the Top 25 system where faster boards get constant exposure.

>Yeah, but that didn't happen in this case. It was deleted normally.

Which case do you mean? Because one of those /v/ threads was left up for an hour and the other for 20 minutes.

>>3212

>Not a single board I listed had anything to do with GG, except maybe /christian/.

/monster/ too since they're mostly /v/ and /vg/ crossboarders as well.

>No idea, but I'm guessing an /a/ offshoot.

See above.

>I don't understand this fixation with traffic, almost all of those boards are self-contained communities, so of course they aren't a significant number.

It's not 'fixation', it's stating facts. Most people came here because of GG in some way or another.

>The problem is with 4chan legacy boards, where migrations work in the short term, but everyone eventually comes back because of the Top 25 system where faster boards get constant exposure.

Exactly. That's why it's shit. People don't fucking migrate no matter how terrible the state of the board is. People should've abandoned 8/a/ completely and migrated elsewhere the moment Ruya was revealed to be a tranny SJW. You've been stuck with a legacy of shitmods just like /pol/ ever since and it looks like this isn't changing anytime soon.

>Which case do you mean? Because one of those /v/ threads was left up for an hour and the other for 20 minutes.

I meant the tumblr bait on /a/ obviously, not those ones you linked.

>>3216

>/monster/ too since they're mostly /v/ and /vg/ crossboarders as well.

/vg/ came here for quality, not GG. The most active generals are the ones that got the most shitposting back on half. And it's not /v/ crossboarding either, since /v/ has no restrictions on generals.

>Most people came here because of GG in some way or another

>most people

They really didn't. 8chan is 3 times the size it was after the GG exodus, when you take into the account the niche boards and the fact that the later exodi happened purely because some people stopped seeing 4chan as a cool place to shitpost, it's hard to believe GG could be anymore than a third of the userbase.

>People don't fucking migrate no matter how terrible the state of the board is

Again, /gg/ -> /gamergate/ -> /gamergatehq/. People aren't that beholden to legacy boards anyway, /g/ is completely dead compared to /tech/. The real problem is the constant exposure of already fast boards via the Top 25 bar. Lastly, people do migrate, but like I said, they come back because the migration board can't sustain it's initial traffic due to the Top 25.

>>3219

>And it's not /v/ crossboarding either, since /v/ has no restrictions on generals.

I meant /v/ crossboarders from THIS site. MGQ was pretty popular on /v/ back in the day.

>it's hard to believe GG could be anymore than a third of the userbase.

Really? Let's analyze most of the top 25 boards to see if they have a relation to GG or not in that case:

>/v/

GG related.

>/pol/

GG related

>/gamergatehq/

Duh.

>/tech/

Semi-GG related. Has some crossboarders from /v/, but a lot of actual /g/ users as well.

>/furry/

It's the only popular exception as I have already said.

>/a/

Made up mostly of crossboarders from /v/ and /pol/. Arguably GG related.

>/k/

/pol/ crossboarders.

>/co/

Had their own "Comicsgate" which got censored on 4/co/ as well. Used to be pretty empty before that.

>/int/ and /intl/

/pol/ shitposters who exiled themselves there.

Everything else isn't really relevant in the big picture. GG related boards undeniably make up the majority of the site's userbase.

>/g/ is completely dead compared to /tech/

Yeah, but only because people started migrating to that one really early. Actual split boards that are made AFTER the migration to a legacy one has already started never survive.

>>3220

Forgot about /n/. /pol/ crossboarders as well.

>>3220

>>3221

>Let's analyze most of the top 25 boards to see if they have a relation to GG or not in that case:

>deliberately ignoring that only the first exodus brought GG here, and no other exodus brought over GGfags, thus they would have to be in the minority given the second and third exodi were each larger than the first

>/tech/

>Semi-GG related. Has some crossboarders from /v/

lol

>/a/

>Made up mostly of crossboarders from /v/ and /pol/. Arguably GG related.

lel

>/k/

>/pol/ crossboarders.

kek

>/co/

>Had their own "Comicsgate" which got censored on 4/co/ as well

2 years ago, hence /legion/.

>/int/ and /intl/

>/pol/ shitposters who exiled themselves there.

jej

>/n/. /pol/ crossboarders as well.

ayylmao

You've just made it obvious you've never been to any of those boards. Lurk the fuck moar, 4cuck.

>>3223

Please don't use Shinoa to shitpost.

>>3223

>responding to spoonfeeding requests with anything other than shitposting

Not surprised 4/a/ is so shit when you get assmad over being told to lurk.

>No, you dumbass. It was barely over two months ago. You are the one who needs to lurk more if you don't know what I'm talking about.

Sorry I don't pay attention to 4cuck drama.

>/co/ was not even in the top 25 back in September.

Yeah, because they didn't come here for GG. Pretty much every board that wasn't tangentially GG related was pretty dead until mid-October, when it became clear that 4chan had gone to shit and it wasn't just about GG, because they came here for quality.

>I've been to all of them besides /co/.

No, you haven't, otherwise you wouldn't be making shit up. There's not a single /v/ or /pol/ crossboarder on /tech/, /k/, /int/, /intl/, /n/. Putting /int/, /intl/, and /n/ there especially shows that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>3223

There wasn't a top 25 back in September

>>3229

Wasn't there?

>>3229

>>3230

I never used JS and still don't really, so I wouldn't know.

>>3227

>Not surprised 4/a/ is so shit when you get assmad over being told to lurk.

It has more to do with the fact you're a faggot.

>Yeah, because they didn't come here for GG

What happened on 4/co/ was pretty much the same as the GG scenario on /v/ and /pol/.

>Pretty much every board that wasn't tangentially GG related was pretty dead until mid-October, when it became clear that 4chan had gone to shit and it wasn't just about GG, because they came here for quality.

I don't remember what the activity was like for each board back then, but you're wrong about the second exodus not having anything to do with GG. It happened because moot was mad at /pol/ about finding out that his Jew girlfriend/love interest who worked at Gawker cucked him with another guy. /pol/ was left in a completely fucked state for over month. When it went back to normal again, most of the cuckchanners went back there. Third exodus never happened. moot's retirement didn't trigger a significant migration.

>There's not a single /v/ or /pol/ crossboarder on /tech/, /k/, /int/, /intl/, /n/

You've got to be kidding me, right? You don't have anything to back that absurd statement up.

>Putting /int/, /intl/, and /n/ there especially shows that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

/int/ used to self-admit that their raids on /pol/ were due to the board becoming "rulecuck central". They got what they wanted for a while, but then that drama involving the mods happened and the board was supposedly passed over to someone else, blah blah blah. I don't know the details of the latter very well.

And /n/ is pretty much just /pol/ with news. You don't have to browse the board longer than a few minutes to realize that.

>>3232

>You've got to be kidding me, right?

>Implying /v/ or /pol/ know anything about technology

>>3219

>>3220

Wait, what? I thought /g/ was faster than /tech/?

>>3223

You don't need to attach an anime Image to every one of your posts. We know you watch anime.

>>3239

also

>11/30~12/06 363304

>12/07~12/13 404454

IDs are not needed. We don't deal with the same bs /pol/ or /v/ deal with.

Also it dulls the samefag sense.

>>3233

/g/ used to have tons of /v/ crossboarders at least asking how to build a gaming PC. This applies to /tech/ to some extent too.

>>3238

And you don't need to be this much of a newfag as to not know what a reaction image is.

>Are you completely retarded? People moving here because moot is a fucking faggot doesn't make it GG related, even if it was in December.

His girlfriend worked at Gawker. Gawker was related to GG. He nuked /pol/ because they were the ones who found out about her.

>http://stats.4ch.net/8chan/allboards.php

PPH doesn't have a very strong correlation with traffic. You can see that there's a lot of variation in those stats as well because of spam, circlejerking and stuff. They are anything but uniform. Discarded.

>And to add my own completely unverifiable anecdote, there was a noted decline in post quality during the second exodus, which led to the creation of quality-focused versions of /v/ and /pol/ (/polpol/ and /svidya.) .

Where did I denied this happened? Most of the second exodus fags went back, but the ones that stayed were enough to bring the quality down.

>And /int/'s drama started on /int/ and they raided several boards for shits and giggles, to get back at the globals. You don't even know what you're talking about do you? /int/ only raided /pol/ ~2 months ago.

I'm referring to them in their own words, not mine. Some of the people there said most of /int/'s population consisted of /pol/tards who were tired of the "rulecuckery" happening there. Neither of us can verify if this is true or not, so you should stop speaking like you're 100% correct about the contrary.

>Hello, newfag.I'll spoonfeed you just this once once. /n/ (nee /news+/) exists because way back (in November iirc) Hotwheels made /pol/ an official board and in doing so, he unbanned everyone and crippled the moderation (no permabans was the most signicant rule), and unsurprisingly, everyone hated him for it. He killed the idea after a day, got salty as fuck and started crying about /pol/ being not like the "real" /new/ (4chon/new/ that he drove into the ground) and created /news+/, later rechristianed /n/

Yes. I was already aware of this. /pol/ crossboarders still made up a huge part of /news+/ population back then despite all of this.

>/n/ and /pol/ don't even share a userbase, /n/ is absolutely full of /leftypol/ (who incidentally came from GG, not /pol/) just like /news+/ was. They've got some autistic fascination with shitting up /pol/ and turning the site against it.

Dunno about that, but it wasn't like this they last time I visited it if you're telling the truth. Maybe they only started shitting it up recently.

>>3243

>His girlfriend worked at Gawker. Gawker was related to GG. He nuked /pol/ because they were the ones who found out about her.

hurr fucking durr, read the image. People knew that in September and he nuked /sp/ for it. I don't even remember what caused the cluckening, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't that.

>They are anything but uniform.

Except for it going up consistently as time went on.

>Discarded.

Back your own claims up first faggot.

>Neither of us can verify if this is true or not

I fucking can newfag, because I was there. /int/ drama started and still goes on because /int/ is owned by a global (soma or lowcard), they raided everyone because of this and tried to kill legacy boards like /v/ and /a/ with /vvv/, and /am/, not to mention all the /pol/ spinoffs.

>/pol/ crossboarders still made up a huge part of /news+/ population back then despite all of this.

If by crossboarders, you mean the same shitposting faggots who came in the 2nd 4chan exodus, I agree. That still doesn't relate it to GG, since the 2nd exodus had nothing to do with GG.

>Dunno about that, but it wasn't like this they last time I visited it if you're telling the truth. Maybe they only started shitting it up recently.

Nigger, /news+/ was full of them from the start. They actually think stringing together buzzwords like racist and stormfag is an argument, and copypaste didn't care because he has this lunatic idea that /n/, 4/new/, or even 4/pol/ was ever an "ideological battground".

>>3244

>I don't even remember what caused the cluckening in December

Faggots that want IDs are /v/irgins and /pol/acks or generalsfags. Generalsfags want IDs more than most because their threads, being repetitive and pervasive as they are, will attract regular shitposters. It happens in every general ever. Naturally, they'll be able to self-manage against this sort of poster, by being able to hide the poster via his ID.

But let me tell you something that IDs will not do for anyone other than generalsfags:

IDs won't do shit to help reduce shitposting. They will not make posters or lurkers more aware of shitposting. They will not help mods to manage shitposting. IDs will not help improve board quality. They will not discourage potential shitposters from shitposting.

Shitposters shitpost and that's that. They'll do it with or without IDs. Mods have hidden IDs for every poster anyway, so if you report a poster you dislike, the mod checks up on the report and concludes that they are a legitimate shitposter based on their posting history, then they'll get banned. Simple as that.

I REPEAT, IDs WILL NOT SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS /a/ HAS TO DEAL WITH AND WILL PROBABLY CREATE MORE, LIKE ATTRACTING MORE FUCKING GENERALSFAGS TO CANCER UP THE BOARD