ca441f No.2979[Last 50 Posts]
Can we please have IDs enabled. It would greatly detract the shitpost count as casual users wouldn't go through the process of switching up their proxy and posting under an ID.
We'd have users to blame per thread and call them out for their behavior.
I normally don't post on /a/ for the very fact there aren't IDs, seeing as the lack of them encourages people to samefag while creating a false dichotomy.
Please enable IDs
e6f0be No.2981
I, personally, wouldn't mind. Makes it easier to hide shitposts, too.
63282f No.2984
The march to make 8chan /a/ worse than 4chan /a/?
No thanks.
ca441f No.2985
>>2984
How would it make it worse?
I personally find boards here with IDs much better. Do you use any boards aside from /a/? They almost all have IDs and it deters samefagging from shitpost raids.
63282f No.2986
>>2985
Chan boards are predicated on anonymity.
The idea of IDs shows a complete fundamental misunderstanding of how boards work.
What you want is Reddit, you just don't realize it.
e6f0be No.2988
>>2986
It's not like IDs carry over from thread to thread. Then you'd be right.
63282f No.2989
>>2988
They ruin individual threads.
63282f No.2990
/q/ was a hellish nightmare of negativity and division.
/qa/ is pretty chill.
what's the difference?
ca441f No.2991
>>2986
But you're wrong. IDs aren't static. You get a different one every thread and on every board.
I ask again, do you use any board on 8chan besides /a/? Most use IDs and the post quality is fairly high because shitposters are greatly deterred.
>>2989
How do they ruin individual threads? You talk between persons in a thread, do you want people to consistently switch sides or play the idiot and fool everyone?
Come on now.
e6f0be No.2992
>>2989
I don't see how. Without them you just get "samefag" accusation derailments.
63282f No.2993
>>2991
>>2992
You're trying to diminish one of the central features of chan boards with an argument that boils down to "make it more like reddit".
0a2522 No.2994
There really aren't many arguments against IDs besides "muh shitposting and samefagging culture"
And if you really, really, really, really need to bump your thread without embarrassing yourself, just switch to another proxy
63282f No.2995
>>2994
>There really aren't many arguments against user names besides "muh shitposting and samefagging culture"
Why do you think 4chan doesn't enable IDs on all boards?
e6f0be No.2997
>>2995
I don't even go there anymore, why should it matter?
0a2522 No.2998
>>2995
Because 4chan is too set in it's ways for so many years due to it's age. 8chan is nice and young to be able to change without much resistance.
ca441f No.3000
>>2995
These aren't user names! These are IDs that change per thread and board. They aren't the same.
4chan doesn't enable IDs on all boards because their moderators are fucktarded. Still, I'm sure if they change everything tomorrow the kiddies will still post there.
63282f No.3001
>>2998
IDs were put on /pol/ as a punishment.
>>3000
I disagree with the 4chan mods a lot but they understand how chan boards work far better than most of the people on 8chan.
ca441f No.3002
>>3001
True anonymity is a failed concept, anon. You see how with it immaturity from the real world has passed to our online interactions and ruined places like 4chan where you can barely talk without an argument starting and someone laughing because of the chaos. It's a headache posting anywhere without them. Wizardchan is the same way.
We need IDs to keep the user base calm and to create a more stimulating environment. How we ensure it doesn't become like a normal forum is by having IDs change per thread and per board so your identity doesn't gain a following.
e6f0be No.3003
>>3001
I see a common theme here. Moot pictures, constant mentions of 4chan/niggertits/cuckchan, and even going so far as saying as they do things better.
Maybe you should go back. Just a suggestion.
63282f No.3004
>>3002
>True anonymity is a failed concept, anon.
no.
>ruined places like 4chan
4chan /a/ is still thriving while this board is tanking.
63282f No.3005
>>3003
>Maybe you should go back. Just a suggestion.
Why don't you just move to 7chan /a/?
8chan /a/ is at 16 pph and you're telling people to leave?
e6f0be No.3006
>>3002
>Wizardchan is the same way.
I like how you can't even emailfag there. True wizards can sense a samefag anyway.
>>3004
Oh, you're THAT guy. Everything makes sense now.
63282f No.3007
>>3006
>Oh, you're THAT guy. Everything makes sense now.
I don't know who that guy is but you've just demonstrated the problem.
Instead of dealing with posts and arguments you are trying to find identities.
e6f0be No.3008
>>3007
I'll bite because you're right, who the person the argument is coming from should be irrelevant.
So, let's get crackin'.
>Why don't you just move to 7chan /a/?
Deader than a doorknob.
>4chan /a/ is still thriving while this board is tanking.
I don't care about 4chan/a/ because the community is awful. The one here isn't much to talk about either but it's okay for a few slow threads I post in. I already have one foot out the door, though.
That's about it.
63282f No.3009
>>3008
> I already have one foot out the door, though.
to where?
e6f0be No.3010
>>3009
To nowhere. I've gone a few years without having anyone to talk to about Japanese cartoons, I could do it again. I guess I could take it to the wiz, though. It's slow but rather comfortable.
ca441f No.3011
>>3007
You're THAT guy.
We just had some shit come on the board and try to compare 4/a/ to 8/a/ saying we're dying and the community sucks. Of course we can't prove it was you because the place didn't have IDs, and even if it did we couldn't link you to here.
4chan has the shittiest community there is among on all chans, why can't we just take an early step here and create IDs to drastically cut down on casual shitposting.
I was just in a /pol/ thread and saw we nabbed an idiot trying to play both sides by not knowing how IDs work. Samefagging is a true nuisance and has people playing games without participating in the conversation. You still refuse to accept that with a community that is so accessible most users will lack the maturity to be able to responsibly anonymous post so we need to have measures to make them slightly accountable. 4chan with it's extreme accessibility should have IDs on all boards.
ALSO
I'd like to make you aware of the fact there there isn't a big problem with /v/ here, and if you make the statement like "oh it's /v/ fucking things up" here it's an instant marker that you're from 4chan because they are the ones with the bad /v/.
4f4095 No.3012
>>3007
Anon, do you want to compare desktops to prove those faggots wrong? I think he's referring to me. It's funny to see them being so paranoid about this and thinking every post that criticizes their precious is me now.
09a02d No.3016
>>3011
>We just had some shit come on the board and try to compare 4/a/ to 8/a/ saying we're dying and the community sucks.
You know, you could report these things, since they're meta. If it's always the same guy it's also spam.
e46f78 No.3020
>>3012
>I think he's referring to me
Noted, so that'd mean you're also the same anon as >>2973 proxyfagging again to try and force a consensus crack. Sure do love them proxies, don't you?
4f4095 No.3026
>>3012
Whatever. If the other guy is still here, I'm still willing to compare desktops or web browsers to prove you wrong.
The only time when I 'proxyfag' is unintentionally when my main proxy stops working for whatever reason.
4f4095 No.3027
ca441f No.3036
>>3023
Don't you want to cut down on the casual samefagging and shitposting? Don't you want to have more rigorous standards than that cesspool 4/a/?
060c8f No.3038
>>3036
>more rigorous standards
more rigorous than it already is would be rigor mortis.
02240c No.3039
>>3036
Don't you want to cut down on the casual samefagging and shitposting?
Ｎｏ．
ca441f No.3041
>>3038
Very few people would leave because of the lack of "true anonymity", we already know this from how big /pol/, /cow/, and /v/ are but they still have IDs.
I highly doubt that most people who watch anime give a damn about internet policy. I hand out in IRC channels that don't care if there are log bots in there.
02240c No.3042
>>3041
IDs are why I stopped using /pol/ alltogether.
060c8f No.3043
>>3041
They're here in spite of IDs.
/v/ and /pol/ are both boards that should not have IDs.
ca441f No.3046
>>3042
I don't care if you leave because /a/ gets IDs. It would improve the community, one person that doesn't realize it will improve quality leaving is no sweat off my back.
>>3043
Do you mean to insinuate that people come to 8/a/ because there are no IDs here and not for the fact that they want to talk about anime?
Christ go to overchan or use i2p if you want to have perfect anonymity while you discuss your chinese cartoons.
060c8f No.3047
>>3046
The quality thing was tried on 7chan.
https://7chan.org/a/
It's dead as a door nail and can go literally years between posts.
ca441f No.3048
>>3047
7chan hasn't had traffic since day 1 though, and didn't have 789, 888, and 4chan heritage and users behind it. You can't compare the two.
7chan was just made because of 4chan's constant server failures, 8chan is supposed to be a step up from all the sites I mentioned. We won't lose people by implementing IDs.
060c8f No.3049
>>3048
7chan used to be quite popular.
They were very concerned about the quality of posts and banned people for very minor reasons.
Obviously the site died as a result.
e6f0be No.3050
>>3048
>4chan heritage and users behind it.
Sure it did. It was made because moot nuked the invasion board. I think.
>>3049
I'm not sure if it was this or its habit of going down for weeks at a time. That's what made me go back to "niggertits" around 2008. /jp/ made sure I stayed there for a few more years.
060c8f No.3052
https://encyclopediadramatica.se//b/day
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/7chan
>Ironically, despite flourishing as a result of the oppression that preceded /b/-day, moderation and enforcement of rules is actually comparable to that of 4chan. Moderators will ban you over the slightest things, especially upon receiving a topic/post report, as people who create topics/posts that violate the rules (such as those who post more then five syllables) will be met with incredibly swift banhammer strikes, and have their topics/posts deleted. This is also why 7chan is better than 4chan due to the fact retards are eradicated from the site.
02240c No.3053
>>3046
I just don't want IDs. Please don't add IDs.
ca441f No.3055
>>3052
Well the constant banning doesn't have anything to do with just having IDs. Their admins are worse than /jp/s, and I can tell you the reason /jp/ has so little traffic is because of the constant bans so no one wants to deal with this shit.
IDs will cut down on the casual shitposting and samefagging, nothing more.
e6f0be No.3056
>>3052
Well, seems I was wrong about how it came to be but I maintain the fact that it did (does?) have 4chan heritage and, at one point, many former users.
It's been a while.
060c8f No.3057
>>3056
Reading the history of 7chan is one of the most depressing things in the world.
It all happened 9 years ago but it has so much cringe.
e6f0be No.3061
>>3057
I don't think it's possible for me to be more ashamed of myself than I am now thinking about those days.
060c8f No.3063
>>3061
Reading the /b/day article causes me pain.
I was never even one of the meme spouters either.
060c8f No.3065
I have to add interacting with 8chan /a/ is like a slice of 2007 7chan in the modern era.
It's painful and I feel like I'm in a nightmare, hell on earth would be being a regular 8chan /a/ poster.
Slow, boring posts. No interesting conversation. People getting banned for stupid reasons. Anything out of line with the 1984 tier "discussion" getting deleted.
e6f0be No.3068
>>3063
Oh, but I was. I lived on /b/ for a year or two before moving to /a/.
e46f78 No.3147
>wanting IDs
Honestly, what is wrong with this board? Are there even any /a/nons on here?
000000 No.3150
>people still pretending 4/a/ is good
Why does this keep happening?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146842295&postcount=506
>I take it you don't frequent /a/?
Reminder that this is how mainstream 4/a/ has gotten, that neofags, of all people, talk about it casually.
d80e54 No.3152
>>3150
>how mainstream 4/a/ has gotten
>gotten
>he doesn't know the board is less popular than it was over two years ago
Shut up, newfag.
Either way, it's not "good", it's just better than the shithole you have here as an equivalent. A lot of the /v/edditor faggots in your board came straight from leddit as well, so there goes your argument out of the window.
000000 No.3154
>>3152
>he doesn't know the board is less popular than it was over two years ago
>he doesn't know that 4chan's traffic peaked in 2011-2012
>he doesn't know that /a/ becoming less popular is meaningless because /a/ was always a "big three" board and there's always been a gulf between it and the smaller boards (and obviously between /a/, /v/, and /pol/)
>he comes here to defend the honor of Troid's hugbox
>he calls others newfags
>it's just better than the shithole you have here as an equivalent.
>>>/irc/2335
000000 No.3155
d80e54 No.3156
>>3154
>he doesn't know that 4chan's traffic peaked in 2011-2012
No it didn't. That was during the fappening actually. 4chan's traffic back in 2011-2012 hovered around 900-1000 in the global alexa rank at least. It's still a bit more popular today even with the traffic decreasing.
>he comes here to defend the honor of Troid's hugbox
One shit mod/janitor still doesn't make it worse.
Why do you think nobody is migrating to this place and your board is just comprised of /v/ newfags? Because you're shit as an alternative. Unless something better arises people are going to stay there.
000000 No.3157
>>3156
>That was during the fappening actually
And a month later 4chan lost about a fifth of it's traffic. Even before that monthly/weekly variation could be large.
>4chan's traffic back in 2011-2012 hovered around 900-1000 in the global alexa rank at least.
>alexa
>can't even source it
>One shit mod/janitor still doesn't make it worse.
>one
They're everywhere, even just read the thread's for god's sake, or just look at the aussiemoot mod leaks from last year. How on earth do you justify Redwood alone being a mod?
>Why do you think nobody is migrating to this place
I didn't realize popularity correlated positively with quality.
>your board is just comprised of /v/ newfags
>meanwhile /v/'s reject's are posting on 4/a/ right now
It isn't full of /v/ newfags, by the way. Open a /v/ bait thread like KLK and you'll find anons shitting on it and /v/ermins. 4chan's "/v/edditor" mentality is ridiculous (for now, at least0, and particularly ironic since it's no different than normalfags being unable to see past 4/b/.
000000 No.3158
>>3157
>and /v/ermins
*and /v/ermin being redirected to /v/.
16a8f3 No.3159
>>3156
>No it didn't.
Pic related. Not sure about the relationship of "interest over time" to traffic, but it certainly peaked in 2011 and declined precipitously in mid-2012, only growing very slowly after that, until it jumped up with the Fappening, and went down with GG.
d80e54 No.3160
>>3157
>And a month later 4chan lost about a fifth of it's traffic. Even before that monthly/weekly variation could be large.
It's still more popular than it was around 2011-2012 if we are to trust alexa's statistics. I used to check it every month, so i know what I'm talking about.
>can't even source it
How am I supposed to source it something like this? Are you stupid?
>They're everywhere, even just read the thread's for god's sake, or just look at the aussiemoot mod leaks from last year.
Troid is the only one who actually messes with the board at the moment as far as I am aware, and he doesn't do it in the threads that I frequent, so that's not enough of a reason for me to switch to your shithole.
>How on earth do you justify Redwood alone being a mod?
I don't, but it seems he stopped fucking with 4/a/ for now, so I don't care.
>I didn't realize popularity correlated positively with quality.
Too bad you don't have quality as well. Did you even take a look at the latest posts in this board which are complaining about exactly that? >>3131
>It isn't full of /v/ newfags, by the way. Open a /v/ bait thread like KLK and you'll find anons shitting on it and /v/ermins
I'm not going to open shit just for you to samefag in the thread to try to prove your point. I've already browsed the board a bit to know it's full of shameless /v/edditor scum like this >>>/a/243920
>4chan's "/v/edditor" mentality is ridiculous (for now, at least0, and particularly ironic since it's no different than normalfags being unable to see past 4/b/.
Oh please. That's not the point. There's not a single real 4/a/ user in this place since they had absolutely no reason to emigrate out of there considering the GG censorship and "SJW moderation" didn't affect their board one bit. Every single 8/a/ poster is a dirty crossboarder.
d80e54 No.3161
>>3159
That's google searches though, not traffic.
000000 No.3162
>How am I supposed to source it something like this? Are you stupid?
Screencaps? Linking an archive post with a readable thumbnail?
>he doesn't do it in the threads that I frequent
>so that's not enough of a reason for me to switch to your shithole
I'm sorry, I thought you actually had a spine given how much time you dedicate to shitting on this "/v/edditor" shithole.
>I don't, but it seems he stopped fucking with 4/a/ for now, so I don't care.
Yeah, just forget about all the cancer he brought over by enabling narutofaggotry.
>Too bad you don't have quality as well. Did you even take a look at the latest posts in this board which are complaining about exactly that?
>taking meta bitching seriously when this board thinks /a/ is dying every week because we drop 100UIDs during the week and gain them back at the weekend
>I've already browsed the board a bit to know it's full of shameless /v/edditor scum like this
>first response is
>>243922
>You see this right there, this is one of the reasons this board is dying.
>>243937
>I want the /v/ermin to leave
You want me to go back to 4/a/ and say all the deleted rec threads are representative of the rest of the board?
>There's not a single real 4/a/ user in this place since they had absolutely no reason to emigrate out of there considering the GG censorship and "SJW moderation" didn't affect their board one bit
Other than, you know, Troid, Redwood, and the IRC logs showing that the janitors are completely out of touch with the userbase.
>Every single 8/a/ poster is a dirty crossboarder.
Stop making shit up, the board owner has been banning for crossboarding since he took over, that's precisely why we have the /pol/ and recs rules.
>>3161
>That's google searches though, not traffic.
At least it has a relation to traffic.
000000 No.3163
>>3162
>>/a/243922
>>/a/243937
000000 No.3164
>>3162
>>3163
how embarrassing
>>>/a/243922
>>>/a/243937
000000 No.3165
>>3160
>>3162
Just in case you want an example of SJW moderation
https://archive.moe/a/thread/125618883
>loli threads getting autosaged again
Here's two threads complaining about newfaggotry on 4/a/ as well.
https://archive.moe/a/thread/125873501/
https://archive.moe/a/thread/125711407/
000000 No.3166
>>3162
may as well re-link since I fucked that up as well
>>3160
If you're still here 4anon, don't expect a reply anytime soon, I'm too tired to continue this.
d80e54 No.3167
>>3162
>Screencaps? Linking an archive post with a readable thumbnail?
Why the hell would I archive or take screencaps of something like this? All you have is my word on it. I don't care if you don't believe me. I don't see why would you think I'm lying about it though.
>I'm sorry, I thought you actually had a spine given how much time you dedicate to shitting on this "/v/edditor" shithole.
The point is that 8/a/ is simply worse. I'm not moving out of there until a better alternative than you arises. And it's not like the 8/a/ mods are saints either. Have you forgotten about the shitstorm involving the /pol/ anon who got banned wrongly some months ago?
>Yeah, just forget about all the cancer he brought over by enabling narutofaggotry.
Niggerwood had a part in this? I thought it was just moot and RapeApe who orchestrated that. Regardless, it's not as bad as you think nowdays. Shitty Nurutu threads like this: https://archive.moe/a/thread/125903289/ are still deleted and they only allow a single containment thread about discussion of the latest chapters and shit.
>You want me to go back to 4/a/ and say all the deleted rec threads are representative of the rest of the board?
It was just to serve as a small example to illustrate my point. 8/a/ is mostly crossboarders from /v/ and alike. You have a much higher ratio of them browsing the board here. If you think otherwise, you're deluding yourself. This is literally GG, /v/ and /pol/: the chan. They were the only people who immigrated in signifcant numbers.
>Other than, you know, Troid, Redwood, and the IRC logs showing that the janitors are completely out of touch with the userbase.
Cite me a few present-day examples of 4/a/'s moderation being "SJW's". I don't see any evidence of that besides MAYBE Troid favoring the crack shitposters, and even that is pushing. I don't frequent those threads to care very much as I already said.
This thread just got deleted there btw: https://archive.moe/a/thread/125903593/ So much for the SJW boogeyman.
>Stop making shit up, the board owner has been banning for crossboarding since he took over, that's precisely why we have the /pol/ and recs rules.
So why wasn't the /v/edditor faggot whom I linked in my post banned, eh?
>At least it has a relation to traffic.
>correlation which doesn't imply causation
Fix'd.
>>3163
>>3164
Don't feel bad. I do that a lot too. Wish we had post deletion enabled here.
Also, plot twist: post your face when the first reply is me.
d80e54 No.3168
>>3165
Oh sorry, I didn't see this post until now. I think this one got autosaged because of the huge amount of off-topic shitposting in it and metashit everywhere. One of their mods did say to keep the threads on topic, don't blog, don't post NSFW content, etc. If that happens again without any apparent justifiable reason to autosage or delete the thread, then I'll admit you're right. I wouldn't count on the lolifags migrating to this place though. An alternative has yet to arise if more problems regarding that start to happen again.
000000 No.3181
>>3167
>I don't see why would you think I'm lying about it though.
I don't think you are, I've just been looking through the archive and really can't find a consensus on it. So, in the absence of that, I think google impressions are as good a metric as any, since they at least judge new interest better than Alexa.
>The point is that 8/a/ is simply worse. And it's not like the 8/a/ mods are saints either.
I really don't understand this mentality, you can just make your own board here, and even keep it hidden, so you don't have to worry so much about crossboarders.
>Have you forgotten about the shitstorm involving the /pol/ anon who got banned wrongly some months ago?
No, and the owner is certainly a top-tier hotpcketeer who seems to revel in banning people, but /a/ getting mad over "pol/shit is nothing new.
>Niggerwood had a part in this?
Not hard to find him in /v/ flavor of the season shows, and occasionally in big three threads. But, as I recall, he was always assumed to be responsible for saging loli threads.
>This is literally GG, /v/ and /pol/: the chan. They were the only people who immigrated in signifcant numbers.
I'm not denying it, but I think it's a bad argument. 4chan is literally /b/, /v/ and sometimes /pol/ the chan. We do probably do get more crossboarders, but honestly, /a/ is slow enough that they just talk about anime on /v/.
>Cite me a few present-day examples of 4/a/'s moderation being "SJW's"
https://archive.moe/a/thread/125903593/#q125903818
Did you not this post being deleted in your example?
https://archive.moe/a/thread/125903593/#q125903818
Not to sound paranoid, but mods have interfered in threads they ordinarily allow when it suited them, one of the major spurs of the exodus was the mods (allegedly) making a really obvious tumblr thread on /v/, I think, and then publically banning the OP and leaving it up so people could circlejerk over the mods.
>So why wasn't the /v/edditor faggot whom I linked in my post banned, eh?
Probably no-one reported it, and it's in the owner's interest to leave posts like that up so long as they're in the minority so he can get UIDs/PPH. Not justifying it.
>correlation which doesn't imply causation
At least it's something though.
>Also, plot twist: post your face when the first reply is me.
boku no Tor posting restrictions, I can't.
>>3168
>Oh sorry, I didn't see this post until now. I think this one got autosaged because of the huge amount of off-topic shitposting in it and metashit everywhere
Honestly, that sounds like wishful thinking to me. It keeps happening, and Daiz seems to derail every thread he's in with impunity without fear of another ban or autosaging the thread.
d80e54 No.3183
>>3181
>I really don't understand this mentality, you can just make your own board here, and even keep it hidden, so you don't have to worry so much about crossboarders.
Too bad not everyone thinks like you do. 8ch has already made it's reputation of being a /v/ermin and GG nest. It isn't going to attract any more users from other boards that didn't have a relation with GG in some level.
>No, and the owner is certainly a top-tier hotpcketeer who seems to revel in banning people, but /a/ getting mad over "pol/shit is nothing new.
The previous owner was even worse in this aspect. And the first one was a tranny degenerate who tweeted SJW articles (very ironic considering you like to accuse 4/a/'s mods of being SJW's so much, isn't it?). The board has an extremely bad track record regarding it's mods and owner. Why people haven't jumped ship yet I don't know, This shit system made by Cripplekike doesn't work. People are too attached to legacy names.
>But, as I recall, he was always assumed to be responsible for saging loli threads.
Yes, but I've never heard of him being involved in the Nurutu shitstorm before.
>Did you not this post being deleted in your example?
What? No. I see as an argument against it. The fuck, dude.
>Not to sound paranoid, but mods have interfered in threads they ordinarily allow when it suited them, one of the major spurs of the exodus was the mods (allegedly) making a really obvious tumblr thread on /v/, I think, and then publically banning the OP and leaving it up so people could circlejerk over the mods.
So you would rather see them leaving the thread alone? What the hell, man. They didn't even do what you're talking about, they just deleted it normally like it should be.
>Honestly, that sounds like wishful thinking to me. It keeps happening, and Daiz seems to derail every thread he's in with impunity without fear of another ban or autosaging the thread.
So far, it didn't happen again through all of these days and numerous threads that have been made about the subject, but let's see. If it starts to happen again, then maybe it'll trigger an exodus to another chan. Like I said, I don't think they'll bother coming here since the site is associated with so many negative things to them.
a94496 No.3188
>>3055
You talking about 8/jp/? Because a new BO took over a while ago and doesn't ban very often at all. The reason that board in particular is so slow is because it's yet another /jp/ splinter board that /jp/sies have little reason to move to. 4/jp/ still has a pretty significant amount of traffic so if you're talking about that then meh.
000000 No.3189
>>3183
>Too bad not everyone thinks like you do. 8ch has already made it's reputation of being a /v/ermin and GG nest. It isn't going to attract any more users from other boards that didn't have a relation with GG in some level.
I've really got to wonder how long you're been here. 8ch is full of niche boards like /cow/, /furry/, /legion/, /waifuist/, /cyber/, /christian/, /monster/, /4chon/, etc. that all came from places other than 4chan and have nothing to do with GG. Even most legacy boards have nothing to do with it, and some boards like /cow/ and /baphomet/ have no problem shitting on it. Hell, none of the above even have a relationship to /v/.
> And the first one was a tranny degenerate who tweeted SJW articles (very ironic considering you like to accuse 4/a/'s mods of being SJW's so much, isn't it?)
At least we can get rid of our mods when they fuck up, and easily migrate with open-source code. Meanwhile on 4freechan
>
>What? No. I see as an argument against it. The fuck, dude.
>someone points out troid's faggotry
>post deleted
>I see as an argument against it
nigger what
>So you would rather see them leaving the thread alone? What the hell, man. They didn't even do what you're talking about, they just deleted it normally like it should be.
It happened after the exodus was underway and only accelerated it. It was a desperate attempt to get us back.
Here's two examples from /v/, since I can't find own cap
https://archive.moe/v/thread/271140237/
https://archive.moe/v/thread/267375278/
>Like I said, I don't think they'll bother coming here since the site is associated with so many negative things to them.
Then why does half/a/ keep coming here? /ameta/, /operate/ and /meta/ have been overflowing with "8/a/ is /v/eddit shit please come back to 4chan" for months.
b9fa85 No.3190
>>3189
>Then why does half/a/ keep coming here? /ameta/, /operate/ and /meta/ have been overflowing with "8/a/ is /v/eddit shit please come back to 4chan" for months.
Easy, they're 8chan trolls and they're the kind of posts that people keep eating up, God knows I like to do it as well
As a whole, I don't think 4chan anons really care too much about 8chan at the moment
000000 No.3191
>>3190
>As a whole, I don't think 4chan anons really care too much about 8chan at the moment
No, they really are that butthurt.
https://archive.moe/_/search/text/8gag/
b9fa85 No.3192
>>3191
Man, wonder how many results you'd get for "cuckchan" and "halfchan" if there were properly working archives enabled here
b9fa85 No.3193
>>3192
Holy fuck whereas the entirety 4chan only has a little more than 1000 results for 8gag, 8/v/ garnered 3381 results alone for "cuckchan".
http://8archive.moe/v/search/text/cuckchan/
And "halfchan" gets 12300 results too for 8/v/ alone! Jesus fuck, imagine the numbers if you could count the whole of 8chan!
http://8archive.moe/v/search/text/halfchan/
I'm sorry. but the butthurt isn't even comparable, especially considering 4chan is several magnitudes larger than 8chan
000000 No.3195
>>3192
>>3193
It's almost as though all references to 8chan and most variations on that are an autoban.
>they have a board dedicated to bitching about us
>they come here in a desperate attempt to bring us back
top kek, if you fags weren't butthurt, you wouldn't be here
b9fa85 No.3196
>>3195
? You're not making sense here friend, can't make head or tails out of your post
fa567f No.3197
>>3196
References to 8ch are removed, so obviously you will find less of them.
Halfchan is a great nickname and the idea that anyone can get upset by it makes it worth repeating whenever you need to talk about halfchan.
000000 No.3198
>>3196
It's more readable than yours, which is just poor bait. No 8anon is going to troll a meta board, since everyone knows no-one ever reads them to begin with.
b9fa85 No.3200
>>3198
I think it's fair enough to say that 8chan likes to talk about 4chan a bit more than the other way around, don't you?
And in any case why do you assume I'm trolling? I contribute plenty to 8/a/ and like to check up on /ameta/ to see how people are feeling once in a while. We're just shooting the shit, aren't we?
Should probably easy up on the conspiracy theories there. Not everyone's out to get you and steal "dat huge traffic" 8/a/ is well-known for.
000000 No.3201
>>3200
Come on, no one talks like that here. If you're this desperate for replies, head over to /pol/ or /gamergatehq/ and trip their shill alarms.
b9fa85 No.3202
>>3201
>implying I don't already fuck with /pol/ and /gamergate/
Nah, this /a/ is pretty cool. I wouldn't do anything to mess with it. We're just talking, nothing more than that. Is there something wrong with the way I talk?
000000 No.3203
>>3202
>Is there something wrong with the way I talk?
Did you really think anyone would bite on this, anon?
>>3200
>Should probably easy up on the conspiracy theories there. Not everyone's out to get you and steal "dat huge traffic" 8/a/ is well-known for.
If you're going to b8, at least do it in one of the other threads here where people care about traffic, like this one.
000000 No.3204
>>3202
>>3203
>like this one
forgot to quote
>>2458
b9fa85 No.3205
>>3203
Wasn't baiting to get responses at all, just curious why you feel so strongly about the way I talk.
And I'm not trying to start a debate about traffic at all, I just think it's weird you think I'm here to get more posters on 4/a/. God knows the board doesn't need any more.
000000 No.3206
>>3205
>just curious why you feel so strongly about the way I talk
Last reply you're getting out of me, more for the benefit of newfags than anyone else.
>>3190
No one other than the /int/ brigade cares about metashit, and even they give up as soon as a thread hits /meta/. The only place this particular autism is coming from is halfchan, there's been a group of them posting "8chan is dying/about to die because of /v/eddit" type stuff since at least November, because they can't bear to see people actually leave halfchan.
>>3193
8chan and it's variants were autobanned on half, creating an environment where anyone who even acknowledged the site exists was banned and forced here, leading to a massive circlejerk, and halfchan has never been a slur here, so comparing it cuckchan or 8gag is just stupid.
d80e54 No.3207
>>3189
>I've really got to wonder how long you're been here. 8ch is full of niche boards like /cow/, /furry/, /legion/, /waifuist/, /cyber/, /christian/, /monster/, /4chon/, etc. that all came from places other than 4chan and have nothing to do with GG. Even most legacy boards have nothing to do with it, and some boards like /cow/ and /baphomet/ have no problem shitting on it. Hell, none of the above even have a relationship to /v/.
Some of them are made of crossboarders from the other boards that were affected by the GG scandal, like 8/a/ for example. Others don't make up a significant part of the userbase. /furry/ is the only exception.
>At least we can get rid of our mods when they fuck up, and easily migrate with open-source code. Meanwhile on 4freechan
So why did nobody do that, eh? Admit it, this system doesn't work. Split boards never survive.
>someone points out troid's faggotry
>post deleted
Oh sorry. I only saw that post just now. Anyway, at least the thread was deleted along with it right after. It would be much worse if it was actually left up, don't you think?
>It happened after the exodus was underway and only accelerated it. It was a desperate attempt to get us back.
Yeah, but that didn't happen in this case. It was deleted normally.
>Then why does half/a/ keep coming here? /ameta/, /operate/ and /meta/ have been overflowing with "8/a/ is /v/eddit shit please come back to 4chan" for months.
Well, me because I'm not a exclusive 4/a/ user. I still browse some 8ch boards. I wouldn't be here if not for that.
993e1b No.3210
>>2990
Posters in /q/ were constantly jockeying for attention of the staff. Many people had an ulterior motive in the form of enacting change for their home board.
As a board without a purpose /qa/ attracts less of the hardcore board police types which means less people aggressively pushing their views and all the other assorted tripe that came with such folks.
000000 No.3212
>>3207
>Some of them are made of crossboarders from the other boards that were affected by the GG scandal
Not a single board I listed had anything to do with GG, except maybe /christian/.
>/cow/
Latest incarnation of /cwc/, here because 888chan died.
>/furry/
Apparently here because of drama on furfag chans, though I don't know much.
>/legion/, /waifuist/
The first user-created boards here, and /legion/ migrated from 4/co/ a year before GG.
>/cyber/
/tech/ offshoot, and /tech/ is aggressively non-political. They came here because they hated the state of /g/, and could have just as easily gone to lainchan.
>/christian/
Composed partially of christian trolls from /pol/, and partially of apparent believers. Fair to say it's a majority crossboarder board.
>/monster/
No idea, but I'm guessing an /a/ offshoot.
>/4chon/
Here because 4chon died.
>/baphomet/
Script kiddy central, relishes in getting GG blamed for everything they do.
>Others don't make up a significant part of the userbase
I don't understand this fixation with traffic, almost all of those boards are self-contained communities, so of course they aren't a significant number.
>So why did nobody do that, eh? Admit it, this system doesn't work. Split boards never survive.
/gg/ -> /gamergate/ -> /gamergatehq/ is the most recent example. The problem is with 4chan legacy boards, where migrations work in the short term, but everyone eventually comes back because of the Top 25 system where faster boards get constant exposure.
>Yeah, but that didn't happen in this case. It was deleted normally.
Which case do you mean? Because one of those /v/ threads was left up for an hour and the other for 20 minutes.
d80e54 No.3216
>>3212
>Not a single board I listed had anything to do with GG, except maybe /christian/.
/monster/ too since they're mostly /v/ and /vg/ crossboarders as well.
>No idea, but I'm guessing an /a/ offshoot.
See above.
>I don't understand this fixation with traffic, almost all of those boards are self-contained communities, so of course they aren't a significant number.
It's not 'fixation', it's stating facts. Most people came here because of GG in some way or another.
>The problem is with 4chan legacy boards, where migrations work in the short term, but everyone eventually comes back because of the Top 25 system where faster boards get constant exposure.
Exactly. That's why it's shit. People don't fucking migrate no matter how terrible the state of the board is. People should've abandoned 8/a/ completely and migrated elsewhere the moment Ruya was revealed to be a tranny SJW. You've been stuck with a legacy of shitmods just like /pol/ ever since and it looks like this isn't changing anytime soon.
>Which case do you mean? Because one of those /v/ threads was left up for an hour and the other for 20 minutes.
I meant the tumblr bait on /a/ obviously, not those ones you linked.
000000 No.3219
>>3216
>/monster/ too since they're mostly /v/ and /vg/ crossboarders as well.
/vg/ came here for quality, not GG. The most active generals are the ones that got the most shitposting back on half. And it's not /v/ crossboarding either, since /v/ has no restrictions on generals.
>Most people came here because of GG in some way or another
>most people
They really didn't. 8chan is 3 times the size it was after the GG exodus, when you take into the account the niche boards and the fact that the later exodi happened purely because some people stopped seeing 4chan as a cool place to shitpost, it's hard to believe GG could be anymore than a third of the userbase.
>People don't fucking migrate no matter how terrible the state of the board is
Again, /gg/ -> /gamergate/ -> /gamergatehq/. People aren't that beholden to legacy boards anyway, /g/ is completely dead compared to /tech/. The real problem is the constant exposure of already fast boards via the Top 25 bar. Lastly, people do migrate, but like I said, they come back because the migration board can't sustain it's initial traffic due to the Top 25.
d80e54 No.3220
>>3219
>And it's not /v/ crossboarding either, since /v/ has no restrictions on generals.
I meant /v/ crossboarders from THIS site. MGQ was pretty popular on /v/ back in the day.
>it's hard to believe GG could be anymore than a third of the userbase.
Really? Let's analyze most of the top 25 boards to see if they have a relation to GG or not in that case:
>/v/
GG related.
>/pol/
GG related
>/gamergatehq/
Duh.
>/tech/
Semi-GG related. Has some crossboarders from /v/, but a lot of actual /g/ users as well.
>/furry/
It's the only popular exception as I have already said.
>/a/
Made up mostly of crossboarders from /v/ and /pol/. Arguably GG related.
>/k/
/pol/ crossboarders.
>/co/
Had their own "Comicsgate" which got censored on 4/co/ as well. Used to be pretty empty before that.
>/int/ and /intl/
/pol/ shitposters who exiled themselves there.
Everything else isn't really relevant in the big picture. GG related boards undeniably make up the majority of the site's userbase.
>/g/ is completely dead compared to /tech/
Yeah, but only because people started migrating to that one really early. Actual split boards that are made AFTER the migration to a legacy one has already started never survive.
d80e54 No.3221
>>3220
Forgot about /n/. /pol/ crossboarders as well.
000000 No.3222
>>3220
>>3221
>Let's analyze most of the top 25 boards to see if they have a relation to GG or not in that case:
>deliberately ignoring that only the first exodus brought GG here, and no other exodus brought over GGfags, thus they would have to be in the minority given the second and third exodi were each larger than the first
>/tech/
>Semi-GG related. Has some crossboarders from /v/
lol
>/a/
>Made up mostly of crossboarders from /v/ and /pol/. Arguably GG related.
lel
>/k/
>/pol/ crossboarders.
kek
>/co/
>Had their own "Comicsgate" which got censored on 4/co/ as well
2 years ago, hence /legion/.
>/int/ and /intl/
>/pol/ shitposters who exiled themselves there.
jej
>/n/. /pol/ crossboarders as well.
ayylmao
You've just made it obvious you've never been to any of those boards. Lurk the fuck moar, 4cuck.
d80e54 No.3223
>>3222
>having to resort to respond with shitposting
A subtle way to admit defeat.
>2 years ago, hence /legion/.
No, you dumbass. It was barely over two months ago. You are the one who needs to lurk more if you don't know what I'm talking about. /co/ was not even in the top 25 back in September.
Also, that /legion/ board is bizarre as fuck now that you've mentioned. They're literally just 30 people yet their PPH is usually in the hundreds. They're the most 'circlejerky' out of all circlejerk boards. Either way, they're fucking irrelevant. Why are you bringing just 30 autistic faggots who use chans as chat rooms into this?
>You've just made it obvious you've never been to any of those boards.
I've been to all of them besides /co/.
e6f0be No.3224
>>3223
Please don't use Shinoa to shitpost.
000000 No.3227
>>3223
>responding to spoonfeeding requests with anything other than shitposting
Not surprised 4/a/ is so shit when you get assmad over being told to lurk.
>No, you dumbass. It was barely over two months ago. You are the one who needs to lurk more if you don't know what I'm talking about.
Sorry I don't pay attention to 4cuck drama.
>/co/ was not even in the top 25 back in September.
Yeah, because they didn't come here for GG. Pretty much every board that wasn't tangentially GG related was pretty dead until mid-October, when it became clear that 4chan had gone to shit and it wasn't just about GG, because they came here for quality.
>I've been to all of them besides /co/.
No, you haven't, otherwise you wouldn't be making shit up. There's not a single /v/ or /pol/ crossboarder on /tech/, /k/, /int/, /intl/, /n/. Putting /int/, /intl/, and /n/ there especially shows that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
fa567f No.3229
>>3223
There wasn't a top 25 back in September
000000 No.3230
000000 No.3231
>>3229
>>3230
I never used JS and still don't really, so I wouldn't know.
d80e54 No.3232
>>3227
>Not surprised 4/a/ is so shit when you get assmad over being told to lurk.
It has more to do with the fact you're a faggot.
>Yeah, because they didn't come here for GG
What happened on 4/co/ was pretty much the same as the GG scenario on /v/ and /pol/.
>Pretty much every board that wasn't tangentially GG related was pretty dead until mid-October, when it became clear that 4chan had gone to shit and it wasn't just about GG, because they came here for quality.
I don't remember what the activity was like for each board back then, but you're wrong about the second exodus not having anything to do with GG. It happened because moot was mad at /pol/ about finding out that his Jew girlfriend/love interest who worked at Gawker cucked him with another guy. /pol/ was left in a completely fucked state for over month. When it went back to normal again, most of the cuckchanners went back there. Third exodus never happened. moot's retirement didn't trigger a significant migration.
>There's not a single /v/ or /pol/ crossboarder on /tech/, /k/, /int/, /intl/, /n/
You've got to be kidding me, right? You don't have anything to back that absurd statement up.
>Putting /int/, /intl/, and /n/ there especially shows that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
/int/ used to self-admit that their raids on /pol/ were due to the board becoming "rulecuck central". They got what they wanted for a while, but then that drama involving the mods happened and the board was supposedly passed over to someone else, blah blah blah. I don't know the details of the latter very well.
And /n/ is pretty much just /pol/ with news. You don't have to browse the board longer than a few minutes to realize that.
cc6d31 No.3233
>>3232
>You've got to be kidding me, right?
>Implying /v/ or /pol/ know anything about technology
988036 No.3237
>>3219
>>3220
Wait, what? I thought /g/ was faster than /tech/?
988036 No.3238
>>3223
You don't need to attach an anime Image to every one of your posts. We know you watch anime.
79d97b No.3239
>>3232
>It has more to do with the fact you're a faggot.
>You've got to be kidding me, right? You don't have anything to back that absurd statement up.
>please spoonfeed me
>also prove a negative
>What happened on 4/co/ was pretty much the same as the GG scenario on /v/ and /pol/.
That doesn't make it GG related.
>I don't remember what the activity was like for each board back then, but you're wrong about the second exodus not having anything to do with GG. It happened because moot was mad at /pol/ about finding out that his Jew girlfriend/love interest who worked at Gawker cucked him with another guy. /pol/ was left in a completely fucked state for over month.
Yeah, no, that was September, and /pol/ had more filters than cuck -> cluck. Are you completely retarded? People moving here because moot is a fucking faggot doesn't make it GG related, even if it was in December.
>When it went back to normal again, most of the cuckchanners went back there. Third exodus never happened. moot's retirement didn't trigger a significant migration.
top kek
http://stats.4ch.net/8chan/allboards.php
>12/21~12/27 419051
>12/28~01/03 475141
>01/25~01/31 522867
And to add my own completely unverifiable anecdote, there was a noted decline in post quality during the second exodus, which led to the creation of quality-focused versions of /v/ and /pol/ (/polpol/ and /svidya.) .
>/int/ used to self-admit that their raids on /pol/ were due to the board becoming "rulecuck central"
And /int/'s drama started on /int/ and they raided several boards for shits and giggles, to get back at the globals. You don't even know what you're talking about do you? /int/ only raided /pol/ ~2 months ago.
>And /n/ is pretty much just /pol/ with news. You don't have to browse the board longer than a few minutes to realize that.
Hello, newfag.I'll spoonfeed you just this once once. /n/ (nee /news+/) exists because way back (in November iirc) Hotwheels made /pol/ an official board and in doing so, he unbanned everyone and crippled the moderation (no permabans was the most signicant rule), and unsurprisingly, everyone hated him for it. He killed the idea after a day, got salty as fuck and started crying about /pol/ being not like the "real" /new/ (4chon/new/ that he drove into the ground) and created /news+/, later rechristianed /n/. /n/ and /pol/ don't even share a userbase, /n/ is absolutely full of /leftypol/ (who incidentally came from GG, not /pol/) just like /news+/ was. They've got some autistic fascination with shitting up /pol/ and turning the site against it.
79d97b No.3240
>>3239
also
>11/30~12/06 363304
>12/07~12/13 404454
6b72ee No.3241
IDs are not needed. We don't deal with the same bs /pol/ or /v/ deal with.
Also it dulls the samefag sense.
d80e54 No.3243
>>3233
/g/ used to have tons of /v/ crossboarders at least asking how to build a gaming PC. This applies to /tech/ to some extent too.
>>3238
And you don't need to be this much of a newfag as to not know what a reaction image is.
>Are you completely retarded? People moving here because moot is a fucking faggot doesn't make it GG related, even if it was in December.
His girlfriend worked at Gawker. Gawker was related to GG. He nuked /pol/ because they were the ones who found out about her.
>http://stats.4ch.net/8chan/allboards.php
PPH doesn't have a very strong correlation with traffic. You can see that there's a lot of variation in those stats as well because of spam, circlejerking and stuff. They are anything but uniform. Discarded.
>And to add my own completely unverifiable anecdote, there was a noted decline in post quality during the second exodus, which led to the creation of quality-focused versions of /v/ and /pol/ (/polpol/ and /svidya.) .
Where did I denied this happened? Most of the second exodus fags went back, but the ones that stayed were enough to bring the quality down.
>And /int/'s drama started on /int/ and they raided several boards for shits and giggles, to get back at the globals. You don't even know what you're talking about do you? /int/ only raided /pol/ ~2 months ago.
I'm referring to them in their own words, not mine. Some of the people there said most of /int/'s population consisted of /pol/tards who were tired of the "rulecuckery" happening there. Neither of us can verify if this is true or not, so you should stop speaking like you're 100% correct about the contrary.
>Hello, newfag.I'll spoonfeed you just this once once. /n/ (nee /news+/) exists because way back (in November iirc) Hotwheels made /pol/ an official board and in doing so, he unbanned everyone and crippled the moderation (no permabans was the most signicant rule), and unsurprisingly, everyone hated him for it. He killed the idea after a day, got salty as fuck and started crying about /pol/ being not like the "real" /new/ (4chon/new/ that he drove into the ground) and created /news+/, later rechristianed /n/
Yes. I was already aware of this. /pol/ crossboarders still made up a huge part of /news+/ population back then despite all of this.
>/n/ and /pol/ don't even share a userbase, /n/ is absolutely full of /leftypol/ (who incidentally came from GG, not /pol/) just like /news+/ was. They've got some autistic fascination with shitting up /pol/ and turning the site against it.
Dunno about that, but it wasn't like this they last time I visited it if you're telling the truth. Maybe they only started shitting it up recently.
000000 No.3244
>>3243
>His girlfriend worked at Gawker. Gawker was related to GG. He nuked /pol/ because they were the ones who found out about her.
hurr fucking durr, read the image. People knew that in September and he nuked /sp/ for it. I don't even remember what caused the cluckening, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't that.
>They are anything but uniform.
Except for it going up consistently as time went on.
>Discarded.
Back your own claims up first faggot.
>Neither of us can verify if this is true or not
I fucking can newfag, because I was there. /int/ drama started and still goes on because /int/ is owned by a global (soma or lowcard), they raided everyone because of this and tried to kill legacy boards like /v/ and /a/ with /vvv/, and /am/, not to mention all the /pol/ spinoffs.
>/pol/ crossboarders still made up a huge part of /news+/ population back then despite all of this.
If by crossboarders, you mean the same shitposting faggots who came in the 2nd 4chan exodus, I agree. That still doesn't relate it to GG, since the 2nd exodus had nothing to do with GG.
>Dunno about that, but it wasn't like this they last time I visited it if you're telling the truth. Maybe they only started shitting it up recently.
Nigger, /news+/ was full of them from the start. They actually think stringing together buzzwords like racist and stormfag is an argument, and copypaste didn't care because he has this lunatic idea that /n/, 4/new/, or even 4/pol/ was ever an "ideological battground".
000000 No.3245
>>3244
>I don't even remember what caused the cluckening in December
ec66ed No.3265
Faggots that want IDs are /v/irgins and /pol/acks or generalsfags. Generalsfags want IDs more than most because their threads, being repetitive and pervasive as they are, will attract regular shitposters. It happens in every general ever. Naturally, they'll be able to self-manage against this sort of poster, by being able to hide the poster via his ID.
But let me tell you something that IDs will not do for anyone other than generalsfags:
IDs won't do shit to help reduce shitposting. They will not make posters or lurkers more aware of shitposting. They will not help mods to manage shitposting. IDs will not help improve board quality. They will not discourage potential shitposters from shitposting.
Shitposters shitpost and that's that. They'll do it with or without IDs. Mods have hidden IDs for every poster anyway, so if you report a poster you dislike, the mod checks up on the report and concludes that they are a legitimate shitposter based on their posting history, then they'll get banned. Simple as that.
I REPEAT, IDs WILL NOT SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS /a/ HAS TO DEAL WITH AND WILL PROBABLY CREATE MORE, LIKE ATTRACTING MORE FUCKING GENERALSFAGS TO CANCER UP THE BOARD
988036 No.3282
>>3265
No, I am a (former now I guess) /pol/ack and I don't want IDs. Why the fuck would you take our greatest blessing, anonymity to others and compromise that is beyond me. It is odd that /a/ understands this the most since anonymity is least important there outside if lolis but thank God for /a/.