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723a03 No.3169

I've been watching this board for a while now, and I've noticed a few patterns in the arguments and their flaws. There seem to be a number of people on here who don't actually browse 8/a/ who are advocating everyone goes back to 4/a/. Sometimes, this strategy actually works and people go back to the original board. The two main reasons listed seem to be perceived quality and speed. 8/a/ is far slower than 4/a/, this is absolutely true, but I think plenty of evidence has been presented to show that statistically the board isn't really getting any slower. I submit that this board eats users by focussing their attention on obsessing over the speed more than they otherwise would care, but that's an issue for another thread.

The real issue is the quality. I've seen some screencaps indicating that the quality on 8/a/ has been dropping, and I think they're probably right. I've seen users throw up their hands and say

>this place is shit now, I'm going back to 4chan

But it's not like 4/a/ is actually doing better. In fact, as we can see from threads like https://archive.moe/a/thread/125873501 and https://archive.moe/a/thread/125711407 the exact same complaints you're seeing about it here on /ameta/ are also cropping up over there. I think it's a case of the grass always being greener on the other side, and submit that BOTH /a/'s are having the exact same thing happen to them, here or there is a false dichotomy.

Something is very wrong with the /a/ community as a whole, I don't understand what but jumping around sites searching for the silver bullet isn't the answer. We need to identify what the problems are and what countermeasures could be used, and it mustn't be in the form of bickering about the 4/a/ vs. 8/a/ dichotomy or we'll never get anywhere.

/a/ is a community, not a website, and I think most here have lost sight of that. It is a BAD thing if 4/a/ goes under, it is a BAD thing if 8/a/ goes under, it is a BAD thing if fufufu goes under, it is a BAD thing if ANY instance of /a/ goes under. It really looks like we might be on the verge of losing the core spirit of /a/ indefinitely, and we really need to work together on this to prevent that from happening.

445ef1 No.3170

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Cripplekike was confirmed to be trying to win the hearts and minds of Redditors…again. Any chance of 4/a/ and 8/a/ comprising is thrown out the window.


d5d9d8 No.3171

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>>3170

This.

If 4/a/ keeps going further down the toilet, you can be sure that most of them aren't going to bother with this place. They're either going to immigrate to another chan that already exists or establish a new one. That's what I hope for at least.

But anyway, OP, like you said, 4/a/'s quality is pretty much the same as 8/a/'s right now, but they still have the advantage of traffic for discussing the currently airing shows in a more appropriate manner. I can't think of a single advantage 8/a/ has over 4/a/ to be able to draw people here. Even the moderation is worse.


8cf8ca No.3172

Watch more anime instead of discussing it


bbb953 No.3173

>>3170

This thread isn't about site admins, it's about the /a/ community. Unless he actually starts interfering with the board itself like moot did, he's not relevant here.


d5d9d8 No.3174

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>>>/a/245869

>>>/a/247231

Actually, disregard what I've said earlier. 8/a/'s quality is still shittier than 4/a/'s. I don't know how you faggots manage it, but you're still worse.

>>3173

He is absolutely relevant to this because he's affecting the whole site by trying to pander to redditards.


bbb953 No.3175

Guess the fool was me for thinking something intelligent could ever come out of /ameta/. Oh well, back to more 4/a/ vs. 8/a/ threads I guess.


d5d9d8 No.3176

>>>/a/247046

Literal rec thread made by a self-admitted newfag who didn't even read the sticky. Still not deleted for some reason. Nice moderation you got there.

>>>/a/216050

Wan Piss thread with almost 200 replies. Where is that faggot who said 8/a/ doesn't have Big Three threads again?

>>3175

The only solution to the problem would be immigrating to an entirely different website in my eyes if that's the 'compromise' you want to reach with the users of both boards.


cd1902 No.3177

"No one will notice if I switch to SZS avatar pics, right?"


214f43 No.3178

Well, at least I never said I'm going back to cuckchan/a/. Just not spending as much time (or posting as much) on this one.


d5d9d8 No.3179

>>3177

>being this obsessed

Fuck off, faggot.


ffdc06 No.3182

>There seem to be a number of people on here who don't actually browse 8/a/ who are advocating everyone goes back to 4/a/.

Its what I noticed that as well and found it to be quite funny. They say 8/a/ is shit and say that it is dead while continuously trying to get people to go back to 4/a/ even if they have no intent of leaving 8/a/.


3e5748 No.3185

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>>3179

>you're right but I'm too oversensitive to do anything other than be buttravaged

Okay man. Really, if you weren't so retarded you'd actually put some thought into this shit. When you just use the same pictures over and over and over for months on end (I'm pretty sure you've been around since the meta threads with /pol/ anon back on /a/) then it's not exactly difficult to pick out who you are.

Makes it very easy to ignore your whining, and all your attempts to convince people that 8/a/ is kill are for naught because you're immediately recognized as that bakemonogatari faggot who won't fuck off. Would still probably be recognized since no one is quite as autistic as you (there's a bunch of other things that give you away), but y'know.

>>3182

I want the faggots to leave. I haven't really used 4chan since early 2013 in the first place and I'm certainly not going back now, if 8/a/ actually dies then I'll just use /tc/ and other splinter weeb chans instead. Considering how shit they tell us 8/a/ is it also begs the question as to why the fuck they want people from "that awful cancerous board" to shit up their precious 4/a/ as well, but whatever mang. I don't know how these faggots' minds work.


8d7872 No.3194

Its honestly a problem that people still see 4chan as a valid option after the cuck betrayed everyone, I never used /v/ or /pol/ on the old site but I left and never went back, last time I went to the oldchan was august 20th, becaus I promised the anons on /anime/ that I will never go back


23dafd No.3208

>>3194

moot is not 4chan's admin anymore.


ceb119 No.3213

>>3194

No, it's not a problem, because anyone that stays with 4chan after all of this (with the exception of a few niche boards that have been mostly ignored by mods) is clearly an idiot that you don't want to associate with.

>>3208

moot was only half of the problem with 4chan. Even if he left, you still have all of your underaged cancerous posters, and newfag/SJW-infiltrator hotpocketeers making it impossible to discuss anything without one hand on your modem.


e03ee4 No.3214

>>3208

I feel like moot was always a good guy. Of course he wasn't the man he used to be but he really became attached to his site and didn't want it to be destroyed, for various reasons of all kinds really. But he jumped the boat when he realized that shit would grow out of his hands if he stayed. All of the alleged SJW cucking shit he did or didn't do, he realized he couldn't control it and left in a manner to protect us.


fef637 No.3235

>>3213

> Even if he left, you still have all of your underaged cancerous posters, and newfag/SJW-infiltrator hotpocketeers making it impossible to discuss anything without one hand on your modem.

And the community that unironically uses phrases like "SJW anime" is so much better.


bbb953 No.3248

>>3235

I have never heard the term "SJW anime" before, examples?


e630f4 No.3249

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>>3214

I feel like moot was generally incompetent and didn't do anything with 4chan most the time as he knew it would probably make things worse. Really, he's just like every other bland celebrity that people fawn over because they're effectively a blank slate - he didn't have much in the way of a public identity that people could wrap their heads around so plebs would just construct their own idea as to who he was instead in order to reassure themselves he wouldn't fuck them over.

He was whatever people wanted him to be as people were always more than happy to fill in the blanks themselves, and I still see anons (on 8chan and I assume on halfchan) doing this shit regardless of everything that happened to the site.


5c03af No.3256

>>3214

He left because he's a fucking failure.

It was the community that made 4chan was it was and it was the community that elevated moot to whatever status he once had.

And now that same community has no respect for him, and in many cases outright despises him.

Aside from that, all he has to his name is a history of a startup that failed miserably, which only proved to employers and investors that he has no business or entrepreneurial talent.

He is nothing. Can you even imagine bring an employer and hiring him to work on a project? A college dropout who managed to fuck up managing a basically self-managing site?


bafa3d No.3266

>>3256

He left because he felt his other ventures' failures were directly attributable to 4chan and thus began to hate his own creation. Sometimes the changes he made were so fucking obviously made out of spite for the site and its users, but the users, so used to lavishing moot with their adulation, couldn't see past their love, into moot's hate.

I think deep down moot desperately wanted to love 4chan and its users the way he used to, but his desperate situation left him susceptible to the whispers of Chaos, and eventually they got him and he fell from grace, to the realm of intellectual fetishes and carrying bags for the nieces of media moguls.


2ccd76 No.3269

>>3266

He was just a teen when he started the whole thing, I knew a lot of young webmaster who became deeply involved with their websites as soon as the community gain a certain size.

But you know what? Most of they guy had what moot lacked. Leadership, ambition, discipline and a lot of useful technical skills. I knew one who searched all over the internet about how to managing project and communities, I'm not anymore in touch with him, but he was already making a good deal of cash out of it while keeping a moral code and some ethics.

moot let his community direct his life and when he finally decided to take control of his own life he just ended up being used by the people who approached him, thinking they could lead him to a better tomorow, because that's probably what he thought he badly needed. You just have to see how he talk, how he behave. For fuck sake, even a cripple like hotwheels show more dominance in his wheelchair alone. I think there also a fundamental difference between these two, moot thought 4chan shouldn't be involved in the game, but 8chan seem to be a very important piece of hotwheel game.

It's oblivious that moot gameplan was to end up being some kind of venerable entrepreneur who succeded many ventures, giving advices to the next generations. Or maybe even a Larry Page fantasy, you never know.

But what's hotwheels endgame?


80ebb9 No.3270

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>2D/3D barrier

>4 day old thread about discussing what your siblings made for you

No wait don't tell me. Do meidos seriously only respond to their rules if they are reported? Are they not a self governing entity?


2ccd76 No.3271

>>3270

I guess one thread like the imouto isn't harmful. It make /a/nons post and read some experiences about something that is related enough to a specific trope of the medium and the quality of the discussion is fairly acceptable.

8/a/ is a slow board, so most of the airing anime have all their own threads who are growing and dying in serenity, I don't think it's a bad thing to have the possibility to talk about our meatspace experiences if the context is still rel/a/ted in some way.

It does also seem to be a good thing that the meidos don't apply some of their rules when said thread end up actually being good. Flexibility is good. I would be tempted to write that I'm satisfied with the current moderation, but I do feel that something is off.


e630f4 No.3272

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>>3270

>actually thinking that is what the 2D/3D barrier means

The barrier relates mostly to pornography and relationships - don't post normalfag porn/lewd on /a/, don't blog about your sex life/girlfriend/etc. No one cares and your posts will get deleted.

Talking about weeb experiences with other people IRL like siblings doesn't cross that line, and for better or worse blogging about family dealing with your weebshit is something that /a/ and /jp/ has done for years.


42a432 No.3273

>>3272

Of course but then that should be adressed in the rules. Honestly they should just copy paste /a/ and /jp/ rules from the 4chan rules page instead of writing their own shitty version while attempting to mimic 4/a/.


7f4215 No.3274

>>3266

I don't think moot hated 4chan. I've read the logs and he never does anything with malicious intent. He was just incompetent. He thought shit like "Naruto day" and the cuckening on /pol/ would be hiliarious. He was disconnected from the actual userbase and instead relied on his mods and janitors to relay information about the communities they moderated. "Naruto day" was a suggestion of the janitor of /lgbt/ for fucks sake. He ignored the warnings of Kinomod and Kusanagi, even RapeApe knew it was bad idea. With /pol/ him and the others in #janiteam, wank themselves off over how funny it is to destroy the board. I can't say I care much for /pol/ or gamergate but the whole issue was handled with total and utter stupidity. If moot didn't want them conducting it on the site because he feared lawsuits, he should have been honest about it. He became alienated from his own creation.


967d36 No.3276

>>3274

The only people that were bothered by Naruto day, were the crossboarding faggots who like to pretend they're super awesome anime pros, which sadly, is the majority of the board on 4chan currently.

You chucklefucks sure love to take from those irc logs, like you knew shit about what was actually happening. Naruto day was hilarious, but yes, it was a bad idea! It was a bad idea, because the mods had no fucking idea that the anime board was in such a terrible state.


b31aef No.3289

>>3270

/a/ has had these threads for years you cancerous fucking newfag.



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