/ameta/ - /a/ Meta Discussion

>>3606

To reiterate why I think it'd be a bad idea:

a) The logs for whatever reason include stupid things like 'x maid dismissed y report', which taken on face value may be taken by meta posters to mean we 100% condone whatever it was. Putting aside that there may be situations where we decide the best course of action may be 'wait and see', some of us are using our own report paging system that continually annoys us about reports until we hit the Dismiss button (mostly deprecated by the report bot I imagine, but I know I at least still use the original script in tandem sometimes).

b) The only people I see bothering to page through the logs are those looking for ways to create /meta/ drama, examples of which you don't need to go searching far to see. There have been occasions where there were legitimate complaints, in which cases we've consistently owned up to and apologized for, making the logs public doesn't provide any additional protection, the benefits are far outweighed by the very real cons which you aren't seeing precisely because you're being shielded from them.

c) The logs nail down precisely which maid did what, which I'm not a fan of. In my opinion moderators should be anonymous and act as a single cohesive entity, I feel antsy about things that may fracture that. If one of the maids does something out of line I can (and sometimes do) privately pull them up on it. If I could I'd also reduce the bans page to refer to both owners and volunteers as 'Anonymous'. I believe quite firmly in shared responsibility, this should be a team at work, not a collection of individuals.

Ah whoops, I was hoping to avoid posting on /ameta/ again.

>>3607

1.) There is an option to have moderator names hidden in the logs.

2.) No, I finger through the /tech/ and /b/ logs about once a week to just to see how active the moderators are, and what they have to do. I do believe that it does bring protection to the both the moderators, and the populace though as it prevents one group from accusing the other of censorship and faggotry, as is now a regular occurrence on 4/a/. If evidence is provided, then I believe that the board will always side with the just side. I can't recall a "censorship" scare on any board where there was a public moderation log.

3.) But the anonymous board log assuages my concerns and fixes that problem! See: https://8ch.net/log.php?board=tg and https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

>Ah whoops, I was hoping to avoid posting on /ameta/ again.

Sorry about that, it is kind of a shithole, huh?

>>3611

You're right about the option to hide usernames, I didn't realise that was implemented, so c) is no longer an issue. a) and b) however still very much concern me. It's a clear pathway in for shitposters to comb through the logs to collate a biased and unfair depiction of how the mods work, and while yes someone can equally go through and collate a counterargument/otherwise refute it, doing so takes time and effort engaging with the shitposters which is exactly what they want. It strikes me as an obvious fount of meta drama.

>Sorry about that, it is kind of a shithole, huh?

It's more that I risk legitimizing this board again, if anons think there's going to be useful posts here they may feel they have to visit it periodically, but this board is basically condemned at this point in favour of periodic meta threads on /a/. On that note, I've had to delay the next thread a bit because we ended up having at least two impromptu meta threads last month and I said we'd be limiting them to 1/month, I haven't forgotten though. Perhaps I should add instructions in the sticky about how to directly PM me if anyone ever has questions they want me to answer without waiting for another meta thread.

>>3612

Oh, I didn't know those where a regular occurrence. I thought the last one was a special occasion because of all the "Freddit" drama. Do you mind if I bring this up in the next meta thread, then? I believe many anons will agree with me, and could state the point more eloquently than I.

>>3613

If you think it's important then by all means.

Your usernames should just be Mod1 Mod2 in my opinion. That was pissed me off on 4chan, I didn't care that mods use other sites, I only cared that they had a "username" mentality at all, should be completely separate I think.

>>3624

Don't let shitposters ruin good girls man.

>>3627

This.

>>3635

You might want to consider rewatching a bit of it to remind yourself. For the longest time I thought Nagi had ruined Karen for me forever, but S2 rolled through and I remembered that I liked her.

Poor guy. I made 2818, and I sympathized with him most of the time, but when I started to recognize him it burned up all support.