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202614 No.8080

what is the difference between anarchism and libertarianism ?

202614 No.8081

sister thread:
https://8ch.net/libertypol/res/278.html

e18c1f No.8082

There isn't any difference as long as you're use the traditional definition of libertarianism .

748d98 No.8083

>>8080
libertarians aren't opposed to all forms of government, just large intrusive forms. Although right libertarians are just ayncraps who admit they'd use violence to enform private property.

9814e2 No.8088

>>8083
Actually, the term "libertarian" was coined by anarchists when it became illegal in some countries to identify as an anarchist.
Anarchism is synonymous with libertarianism.
As for what anarchism is, it is, in simple terms, stateless socialism. That means it will abolish capitalism and the state, substituting it for the free association of worker councils and syndicates.

OP's pic is bullshit as it uses the US definitions of the terms, which have been perverted to serve the interests of capital and the state.

d563c3 No.8095

>>8088
>free association of worker councils and syndicates
the association seems too much to me like a state becuase it dictates how my labour is allocated. but if associations are voluntary, i could just be survivalist

9814e2 No.8096

>>8095
>the association seems too much to me like a state becuase it dictates how my labour is allocated.
Is the market a state because it dictates how your labor is allocated?
>but if associations are voluntary, i could just be survivalist
I suppose, shit way to live though.

c20b73 No.8097

>>8095
Sure, you are free to be a survivalist if you desire. Or just work with your friends and famiky.

571700 No.8725

Punk != Anarchist


1d35d9 No.8772

>>8725

Punk is often associated with the sympathy of anarchy, and that's because nearly every punk is an anarchist. That's where the stereotype came from.


d563c3 No.8788

>>8096

>Is the market a state because it dictates how your labor is allocated?

Non Sequitur. I can choose how my labor is allocated in markets and what goods to produce (I can even ignore supply/demand and operate at a loss). With an association, I cannot directly control how my labor is allocated or which products to produce albeit I have some influence in the decision making.


498681 No.8796

>>8772

I wouldn't say most punks are anarchists, but a significant amount of them are. If anything id say most punks are A political with obvious anarchists tendencies.



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