(7:22)
Utah Philips - "…right then i decided that the idea of manhood that I've been giving, that blueprint for self destruction, that my father had lied to me about manhood, my drill instructors, my army Sargent, my scout master, my gym instructor, in high school, they all lied to me what manhood was and it was up to me to figure out what it really meant."
Amy - "How did you do it?"
Utah Philips - "Painfully. It takes a lot of time to shut up and listen. it takes a plain long time to shut up and listen. I tell you, what i learned was, i decided that the great struggles, the wars that you are talking, it can be the Bosnian war, it can be the Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, it can be the Korean war, the Iraqi, it doesn't matter, the thing that all have in common is that it's young men with guns doing it to everybody else, women aren't doing it, kids aren't doing it, old people are't doing it, disabled people aren't doing it, it's young people with guns, you know, they are doing it to everybody else, we don't have a problem with violence in the world, we have a serious male problem, and i bought into it so i know i'm buying myself out of it, that terrible, terrible part of me to understand and to begin to shut up and listen. The most important movement in the world is the feminist movement, if we can really figure out what's going on between men and women all the problems can figure themselves."
Based Utah Philips indeed