/anarcho/ - Anarchism Board

>>8944

*that wouldn't require you to host your own website

Related to what I'm talking about regarding Hotwheels' official positions on board visibility: http://www.8ch.net/cba.html

>>8950

Shit, yeah, this isn't exactly what I was imagining, but it sounds really cool.

My initial reaction to this is that if we were going to opt for a *chan specifically geared towards anarchism - discussing theory, organizing and whatnot - we'd need to reach out beyond just the *chan userbase and try to bring together as much of the online presence anarchism has as possible. But, here's the thing about that: as far as I know, there isn't any single online "space" where the majority of anarchists on the net come together, and something like this would have great potential if it could get off the ground.

Take for instance the so-called "SJW" groups on tumblr (just as an example of what I'm imagining): were it not for the world wide web's ability to bring together a disparate group of individuals who all share the same beliefs but are few and far between, this political minority (if you consider them to have a genuine political position) wouldn't be able to get any visibility or influence. Similarly, with something like an anarchist *chan, I could see it having that same potential of bringing together a lot of anarchists who would otherwise not have the means of coming together to talk and organize, and also allow for (hopefully) some very healthy and useful inter-platform discourse.

But otherwise, yeah, I can't think of any better conceptual picture of what this sort of *chan would look like. The question is how possible this is logistically and financially, and whether we can even get enough support for such a thing on 8chan. Getting the word out there to the anarchist community on the net is something I myself don't know how to begin doing however.

Update on the state of 8chan: http://8ch.net/operate/res/23977.html#24007

Quickly comrades, we need to act fast and organize while we still have a *chan to meet freely. I was only speaking in the OP as a thought experiment, but if worst comes to worst (I still don't expect anything serious to happen to 8chan, but just in case) we need to get as many refugees as possible together to start the freest and most radical *chan ever conceived.

>>8955

I'm also going to suggest for all interested that we merge this idea of creating an anarchist *chan/a *chan founded on with this >>6540

A hypothetical virtual anarchist Autonomous Zone to go with our hypothetical physical anarchist Autonomous Zone, eh? We could have a board dedicated specifically to organizing these Autonomous Zones. I'll be bringing that up in the Chatzy thing.

>>8957

>Firstly

I'm not necessarily putting forward any sort of position on the Reddit user influx. I'm talking more about how it has affected the site these last few days and how Hotwheels has been handling it.

>Secondly

A dedicated anarchist *chan wasn't what I had in mind initially, but see above >>8953 I think that the idea of having an anarchist *chan could actually be a good thing considering that, as far as I know, the net doesn't have a single major place to bring anarchists together.

As regards your final point: That didn't come out how I wanted it to, and I've been wondering myself on how to deal with this sort of issue I've been seeing. On the one hand, I agree that actively policing peoples' behavior on an imageboard would be a fascist tendency, but on the other hand, let's suppose hypothetically that there were some sort of alternative *chan founded on anarchist principles that managed to gain usership. Now, let's suppose on this *chan that /pol/ inevitably came over there, started shitposting everywhere, spamming their bullshit fascist ideology, being hostile to the board as a whole. What exactly would we do in that sort of situation, as board founded on anarchist principles? It's similar to the problem this board has dealt with in the past with the "anarcho"-capitalists; we don't want to actively oppress people, but at the same time taking a completely hands-off lassiez-faire kind of attitude basically enables groups of people dedicated explicitly to oppressing others and suppressing things like free speech.

So you see the problem, then? I hope that clears up my position. The way I see it, a libertarian like Hotwheels doesn't have much of a conception of this issue, since libertarianism basically exists as a front for the rich to gain complete power over others by using their boogeyman conception of the State. Hence what I'm saying about the position he's taken thus far on the matter of a Reddit influx and the response thus far.

Having listened to his stream just now, it sounds like he's planning on at least trying something different than the top 25 model, at least.

>>8960

You do the same shit as anyone else would. If you talk about movies on /v/, temporary ban and topic deleted. If you talk about politics on /k/, temporary ban and topic deleted. If you talk about how we should exterminate jews on /anarcho/ (really need a better abbreviation for that) temporary ban and topic deleted. Disagreeing should be fine, off topic shouldn't be tolerated because that defies the point of having a specialized board in the first place.

If you go to a coffee shop and ask for a beer, it's not oppression if you get told no.

>>8962

Well, in light of Hotwheels' recent comments on what's been going on with /intl/ shitposting and the top 25 system, it seems now that he's aware of the problem I was concerned with - letting anybody post whatever they want, no matter how harmful it is to the community or suppressive of free speech, under the blind justification of 'muh free speech' - and is taking moderating actions to do something about these posters.

That aside then, I still think there could be some potential in an anarchist *chan for anarchists on the net to organizer and talk. But I'm aware that having a niche *chan makes it difficult for such a thing to last - hell, even a *chan that hasn't been 4chan hasn't done particularly well in comparison. Which is why I said above that the only way I could see something like that working is if it were possible to reach out to whatever anarchist communities there are on the net and bring everyone together so that all the anarchists online aren't posting in hundreds of scattered anarchist/leftist forums, imageboards, chatrooms, Rizon channels, etc. that only get a handful of regular users.

I'm not sure how realistically possible it would be to reach out to that many people and get enough people interested in coming together onto a more centralized virtual anarchist space, or whether that's even desirable in some ways, but that's why I made the thread in the first place. To discuss this hypothetical *chan.

>>8944

>>8950

Bump

I think that relly way created 0chan this ZeroNet. Decentralized hosting www.

>>9124

You can do it here.

>>9123

You forget that you can always create your own board if you don't like it.

>inb4 hugbox

>If the users want it that way, so be it, if you don't like it move somewhere else and don't vote to ban others for not agreeing with you.

>>9127

>don't vote to ban others for not agreeing with you

But this is the only real reason reason you'd vote to ban someone anyway, because they don't agree with you.

Now some kind of collective mod system, where if you see something off topic you can tell them to fuck-off to where that's relevant might be cool, but even that has the potential to be abused as well as sounding like complete programing hell.

chan chan

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>- Keeping with the later trend of forking the 8chan/lainchan open source website source code, for both community and security's sake

no, dont