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3cefb0 No.9141

This is a new thread for the discussion of the project to start an anarchist community in the US, in Detroit or New Hampshire.

If you'd like to participate in our weekly chats, post a throwaway email in this thread to get on our email list. If you don't want to post an email but are still interested, tell us how else we can get in touch with you.

bef062 No.9142

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>>9141

>lifestylism


3cefb0 No.9144

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Some basic points and building blocks for newcomers and lurkers:

>It should be a large Autonomous Zone about the size of a major city, with 5000 to 10000 people in total spread out in various communities. This may seem difficult to do, but most cities are that large by area.

>We want a massive Autonomous Zone that's big enough to be considered a country. A real microcosm of the broader society, one that's large scale enough to really accurately show what worldwide anarchism could look like.

>We want real anarchism. syndicates and communes and worker's councils providing all the luxuries and amenities of capitalist society, in a free and anarchistic fashion.

>We want our own Internet service, telephones, hospitals and schools, motorized vehicles, highways and bridges, and factories.

>We also want luxuries like restaurants, music and film production, parks, toys and libraries to be available for all in an anarchistic fashion.

>The Autonomous Zone should include ancoms, an-collectivists, and mutualists, and each community would help all the others get off the ground, and help to gain new members for the various communities.


3cefb0 No.9145

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Here are the main ideas that have been proposed so far, but there's no reason why we can't do all of these at the same time.

>Urban farming in the abandoned areas of Detroit, eventually leading up to a declaration of secession of our areas and bordering areas that support us.

This wouldn't cost that much money and would be exciting, but it would be a ton of work and we would be running into problems with the city government and other Detroiters that don't support us. We'd have alot of the infrastructure of Detroit already available to us, but we'd basically be taking a major American city away from the System, so that wouldn't be easy.

>A seceded town built from scratch in New Hampshire, with the material support of the Free Staters.

This is what I'm personally leaning towards. It could be easy or hard depending on what any STEM anons on here know about engineering, whether it would easier to build simple wooden houses from scratch, or refurbish massive ruined office buildings in Detroit. We'd also be seen as far less intrusive than if we were to take over Detroit, even if we're pretty close to a major NH city.

Obviously a lot of people don't like the idea of working with ayncraps, but we'd have a massive base of support in the probably hundreds of ayncraps in NH, who could give us the resources and manpower we need. We don't need our supporters to ideologically align with us, just be willing to help us get off the ground. Then afterwards, they can set up an ayncrap community somewhere else.


3cefb0 No.9146

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>Taking over a small town or a small city by moving there en masse and voting for secession.

I'm actually pretty intrigued by this idea. It would get on the news pretty quickly and would show people that there are thousands of disaffected people who have no attachment to America or democracy who are demanding a place to live in accordance with their ideals. I'm also not as convinced as some people that moving to a town en masse would cause all the original inhabitants to hate us. But that's always a possibility.

We would have a bigger amount of land available to us in the short-term in exchange for having to work through the political process and the work of moving a ton of people over. But once we've done that. the whole of the city limits would become anarchist overnight. We'd have a whole big sandbox to work with, and that's a big step up from a tiny, slowly increasing area of Detroit or NH.

>Demanding a piece of uninhabited federal or state land, and building a town from scratch.

This was my original idea, and I still think it has merit. Yes, we'd have to work with the state, but we would also work with the state if we took over a town, and the meetings and logistics for this plan would be less complicated and be quicker than taking over a town. We'd also be less likely to piss people off. We could demand the exact amount of land we need to fit 10,000 people, with just the right resources and climate.


964d02 No.9147

>>9142

But comr8, that's not the point of this. Sure, as individuals we would have the opportunity to live somewhat more independent of capitalism, and that would just be however many less workers suffering under the boot of a boss, but it also would serve as a tactic for occupation and organization.


0df41b No.9157

>>9142

>the entire CNT is life stylist because they try to live and work independently of hierarchy within the state - which eventually will outnumber and outpower the state.

ok.


845b51 No.9167

Hey, it's darih from the last thread

There are people who live in communes dotted all over the US, we could consider reaching out to them to drastically increase our numbers and our chances of success.


3cefb0 No.9168

>>9167

Emailed you.


000000 No.9197

This is just some advice that I'd like to share that I've thought about in regards to Detroit and the (No) State Project. Both of these communities share an opportunity for radical freedom, but they would be quite different from one another.

>Advice for Detroit

If you're going with Detroit I'd say keep to a social anarchist set of tactics. Be as broad as can be. One can not only focus on the working class in this case, since the working class is actually smaller than the unemployed class in Detroit. In this regard, regular worker's unions are not enough, one need to broaden the scope. I think the best would be to to gradually introduce a sense of community unionism through actions on the streets (important: OUTSIDE of the town square). Examples can be setting up so-called 'freeboxes' where people can leave materials that they no longer need at specific locations, free for others to take without cost. In situations like Detroit tactics like Food Not Bombs aren't sustainable, since the need-to-materials ratio is way off. What one should aim to do instead would be to empower the individuals to self-emancipation. One needs to trigger a vibrant sense of co-operative action amongst the people themselves. Therefore setting up community gardens would be a much better strategy for improvement. When neighboring people who maybe previously have never uttered a word to one another are given the chance to work side-by-side for a common goal, morale and communal strength skyrockets.

If/when 'smaller' efforts like these have been established (one must always keep in mind the gradual nature of developments like these) it would maybe be time to help establish decentralized, bio-regional halls for community unionism. My idea here is basically to find larger, abandoned restaurants perhaps and enable it to dual-function as both lax social centers on the regular (something alike a larger neighborhood cafeteria with ping-pong tables, sofas and so on) but also to take the form of the local gathering hall for community organizing when needed. To keep the community updated on these larger gatherings or smaller projects (like the local gardens) one would put up information via pin-boards (set up evenly throughout neighborhoods).

Anyway, that was my brainstorm on Detroit. In short, libertarian communism - go for it.

>Advice for New Hampshire

New Hampshire on the other hand is a completely different beast which requires a completely different set of strategies. Instead of social anarchist direct action you should focus on individualist anarchist action. What exactly do I mean by this? I mean re-introducing these clueless 'radical' capitalists to some actual liberty. Bringing mutualism to the mix. Mutual banks and/or credit unions. I've seen that they've already got Bitcoin rolling, having set up actual Bitcoin ATMs and shit, which is pretty rad, but hardly useful for your average day-to-day transactions. Why not introduce more alt-currencies, a local one, perhaps LETs?

The strategy here would be to simply bridge the gap between these 'radical' capitalists with the smorgasbord of actual anarchist alternatives which were developed by the American mutualists like Tucker. From here, propagandizing about the benefits of co-operatives would flow a lot more naturally (once they've been introduced to actually decentralized ways of doing business), maybe (big maybe) radical labor unions could eventually be introduced from here on, and with this one could finally signal for the social anarchists to come on over, effectively radicalizing an entire state.

One step at a time, though.

One has got to start somewhere, right?


3cefb0 No.9200

>>9197

All very good stuff.

To Nix and Darih, if you haven't gotten my email, make sure to talk to each other and to Eaten about when you'd like to have the chat and then tell me what you've decided.

Eaten says he's free weekdays, but weekends could be a problem.


7e85b6 No.9230

Letting everyone know that leftypol has a thread about this >>>/leftypol/285047

And IRC chat at irc.rizon.net

channel #/detroitcommune/


cb2d76 No.9262

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Should I make a separate thread for flag designs? I have a few from /leftypol/.


a1bc0c No.9267

the commune plans to start in 2016 at a warehouse, if I'm unemployed then I will come otherwise I'l be mailing in goodies


000000 No.9690

Your natural allies are to be found on ic.org. As has been indicated here, there are many Anarchist Intentional Communities (internationally) already in existence.

Several are 'successful long-term projects' from whom guidance and support for your project would likely be freely provided.

Additionally, there are listings for many start-ups with which you might join forces.

You might start by searching ic.org's "Communities Directory" for: Anarchist; Anarchism; Atheist: Secular Humanist; ecovillage; egalitarianism; etc..

Viva La Revolución!




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