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 No.76

I was talking to a friend about anarchy, his opinion was the usual:
People will kill each other, no consequence for doing dumb shit, etc.
My stance on it would be that the people will create a consequence for such action as they/we see fit.
Basically, He has too little faith in humanity and I have "too much".

What is /anarchy/s opinion on the morality of an anarchist society?

>Pic related, his view on the matter.

 No.79

He's right that the lack of a code of laws and a justice system is a problem in anarchy.

And you're right that there would still be consequences for crime, but it would be naive to think that justice wouldn't be messier than it already is.

 No.80

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>>76
>morality
kek

No but seriously, I think that (maybe after an initial wave of unrest which occurs after any social upheaval) people will largely return to normalcy. Look, the vast majority of people out there are looking for peace, like you and me. I'd be shocked to find out that you approve of violence at your front door. That's the pretext behind the statist movement: supposedly, the State will protect us from the bad people in the world; unfortunately, the popular opinion is that all people are bad and all people need to be strictly governed.

It's insanity; people think that they would act out in the face of anarchy. Really? You've been just harboring these anti-social desires for years and only when there is no official State, you would act out? You couldn't have run for government office, or joined the police or military, or even a rebel militia? No, I don't believe you; I don't believe you would intentionally cause harm to others in a stateless setting. And if you do seriously have anti-social desires, work to keep those in check; the State clearly doesn't take kindly to those who kill without license (e.g. mass murderers, unlicensed hunters and pest control, accidental killers).

It's not a matter of faith or optimism. I consider myself a deeply cynical pessimist; this is how people are. People don't like to die or feel pain, and people don't like the ugliness of gore and death and suffering. People want order and peace, not chaos. And that's what anarchy is- Anarchy is Order, spontaneous and voluntary order, hence the famous circle-A.

Morality would probably run along an elaboration of mutual aid and the Golden Rule/NAP. From historical experience with other anarchist revolutions, vices such as prostitution and gambling were looked down upon and less practiced, but not illegal. Justice would probably be between the individuals in question for petty things, and there might be mob justice for cases of murder and rape. (Isn't that what we have now: mob justice, personified, cloaked in black, gavel in hand?) Of course, the topic being stateless society, a group of individuals could devise a justice system amongst themselves if they so pleased.

>Pic related, his view on the matter

That's moronic. Comics are supposed to be funny; characters act like jackasses because it's funny to laugh at people who represent the few real-life jackasses. Obviously it will be exaggerated and unrealistic.

But why is this unrealistic? Simple: people want peace at all costs. Even in absence of government, people still have an emotional response when an innocent person is shot for no reason. This person would probably be punished somehow, at least shunned but probably worse.

 No.130

About the "Even in absence of government, people still have an emotional response when an innocent person is shot for no reason. This person would probably be punished somehow, at least shunned but probably worse."

I think you're right, people would be shunned etc, that would be the punishment perhaps? no one will be able to survive on their own in an anarchist world, so acting in certain ways will compromise the amount of people willing to work with you.

So in effect, by acting selfishly e.g. you would be ruining your own chances of survival.

It would be in the populations best interest to work together, however that doesn't necessarily mean everyone will want to.

Going back to what anon said about human nature, not wanting to experience violence and pain etc, I think this thought would keep people unified, albeit after the initial unrest.

Although I'm not sure, it's all simply speculation, is it not?




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