/ancap/ - Anarcho-Capitalism

Not with a bang but a whimper.

I think it's safe to say that most of us on this board don't want a revolution, but would prefer to get more and more people to simply ignore the state: stop paying taxes, stop voting, stop filing their paperwork, stop using their services, just stop. As more people switch over to non-state services, the state will naturally either collapse under outstanding debt or whither away.

So what we need to do is build those non-state alternatives and make them easy, cheap, and available to everyone.

I'm with Stefan Molyneux in thinking that any revolution worth having must come about by personal improvement (self-knowledge/self-help) and peaceful/rational parenting. Check him out on youtube (username: stefbot) to learn more.

>>273
All respect for my man Molyneux, I think that any approach to change which depends upon changing most people's minds is effectively a surrender to futility. Just like the Zeitgeisters who say their movement can only work if everyone in the world decides to stop being greedy, I think an initiative which depends upon getting people to agree with you is a pipe dream.

Molyneux may in many ways be the philosophical heart of An-Cap, but the working hands, the elements that will make a difference, are the ones willing to find ways to disobey, and to make disobedience safe and easy enough to be popular.

We need an Agorist Steve Jobs.

>>277

With all due respect, how would you get any government to shrink the power of government to work without first getting many people to first agree with you that it was necessary, especially as these same people are largely raised by the government via government schools?

>>281
Make ignoring the state more practical and attractive to the common man than using it. Eventually, the state crumbles from lack of use. People only support the state because they can't imagine a world without it. Show them that world and their belief will follow their self-interest.

either through legislation (ironic, isn't it?) by repealing laws until we are left with no stealing no hurting no killing and then legalizing private firms that make a government have no purpose.

or (unfortunately i think this is more likely) with a monetary or physical collapse of the state. either way lots of people will die. if its a collapse of the dollar we will go through a period similar to the great depression and prior to that we will have to deal with hyperinflation.
if its a physical collapse i see it going down kind of like fallout 3 (minus the sci fi shit) where we have to pick up the pieces of a nuclear war probably between the US and either china russia or north korea. but on the other hand it would show the world, definitively, the evils a state is capable of.

>how you expect a revolution to happen.
A quick shift, a price fix, a bout of confiscations and assasinations, a congressional outburst, a public outcry, a budget fix, a state dissolvement, a constitutional reconstruction and an executive consolidation.

Resistance would be irrelevant and the vast majority would find the changes obviously agreeable.

>>322
>if its a collapse of the dollar
The dollar won't collapse because of the way the American economy is structured. The evidence is the U.S. falling short of inflation targets despite rapid monetary expansion. Worst case scenario is the dollar pulls a Ruble, not in relation to other currencies but in relation to gold and commodity value. Recovery would be swift considering other currency holders would exchange for the strongest which would be the USD.

The troops would be pulled back home and a campaign against domestic terrorists would begin. Ownership would be further consolidated as weak businesses go under and the US would emerge stronger than ever after the campaign ends, it would only take a handful of months.

Imagine a zombie apocalypse where the zombies are outnumbered a hundred to one unlike the fanciful notion of zombies outnumbering one hundred to one like in the movies.

It won't be a depression - it'll be like America preparing for WW2, once again booming industrially.

French here, i'm waiting 2017.
The next elections will probably be the start of a civil war because of the current political situation.