/art/ - Art & Creative

Top tier thread.

Personal problems. I need cash so I can get my life started. If I devote time to drawing then I am not making money.

I haven't figured out a way to make drawing enjoyable for me yet. I need to learn to enjoy it, somehow. Otherwise it's just an exercise in futility.

And I don't mean enjoy as in "Yay I'm having so much fun". Just "I don't feel like killing myself out of frustration right now" would suffice.

I fluctuate, and haven't been doing nearly as much as I should.

Honestly I think at the root of a lot of these issues I've been having are just mental health and a little bit of seasonal shit completely unrelated to drawing.

Shit like motivation is a big issue I struggle with. Inadequacy as well, I love getting fanart (if you can call it that) or art trade stuff of my characters, but it also leaves me feeling really shitty afterwards too, seeing someone draw it better than me. I also have a hard time taking any compliments, being almost indignant that it's shit. And lately I've been feeling like I'm not going to get better, and don't really feel like I'm "better" than 6 months ago, so much as I'm "different."

In general my more neurotic traits are pretty transparent when someone gets me to drop any of my personas, and even my online friends that I have none around have started seeing a few cracks and how I'm in one of the lowest lows I've been in forever.

And this extends to drawing too, I'm getting better about chicken scratching, but I'm not really good. I'll often times find myself drawing a decent line, but involuntarily doubting myself and going over it, when in reality I should just be letting it be and if I fuck up doing it over.

That really sums up how I get stuck in a rut a lot of times, not scrapping or moving on when I should be. The times I'm either deliberately fast and loose, or slower but more deliberate, have always turned out the best.

I don't know, I'm taking steps to fix this by actually being more social with my friends, going to the gym, and making an appointment to see a therapist.

Either a subtle fear of failure or just plain distraction

Same dilema, tablet works perfectly but the pen is starting to fuck up, there's nowhere to buy, the model I supposedly need at least.

Try the official wacom sites or amazon retailers, you ought to find something good.

>>5026

I could buy my tablet twice with he amount they are trying to charge for it.

>>2981

That first one is retarded.

>>1244

The tour is kinds of a monument to art deco you diggi nigglety niggs

>>4955

for jew

Bitch the holy grail is hidden there

>>4978

I'm interested in this actually, but I stopped using skype when discord came out.

Would you be interested in that?

>>4991

If not, should I post one?

>>4991

Sweet.

>do we have an /art/ Discord channel?

Not as far as I know.

>>4992

Go ahead, it's pretty easy to get one going. I wouldn't be surprised if more than just the three of us show up at first, this board and /loomis/ userbase seem to spend most of their time lurking.

Only thing to keep in mind is that there is a bit of a learning curve to discord, just because of how much more you can do with it and how simple everything is compared to skype.

>>4993

https://discord.gg/0q43oDfTE15NuE2j

There, we've got one now. Should be a perma-link, but if it expires, just say something in this thread and I'll generate a new one.

Let me know if I should add or remove any channels.

>>4914

wow these are gorgeous

>>4916

He was so underrated

I don't see any practical reason to seek out to do this.

It's more of an "interesting" artistic thing than anything.

>>4867

>I don't see any practical reason to seek out to do this.

Well, depending on the materials involved it can probably save some money. But really it just comes down to intrinsic cost vs. economic cost.

With drawings, there's no point in destroying them. They better serve as memories i'd otherwise forget.

Sometimes I wonder what will hapen to collection of my shitty watercolors and drawings

I've ripped up a couple old drawings and even burnt one up once. I wouldn't make a habit out of it.

I'm personally not interested of managing such a thing, but if other people told me whenever something needs to be added/removed, I could include them in the sticky.

The only ones I know of are http://8-booru.booru.org/ and http://8chfur.booru.org/

>>4865

It's not a bad idea to include them in the sticky at least.

Though I can't think of any besides >>4929 and even then 8-booru is only really used in the /v/ drawthreads, and when a thread is started by an actual drawfag they have a pastebin they all have bookmarked that even includes links to here and /loomis/.

Any boards that drawthread besides that are slow enough that a booru isn't even necessary. Hell we're still only on our second and we're fucking /art/.

>>4927

"Autodesk Sketchbook" I think is the one I'm using, whatever the one with the orange icon that has a pencil in it is.

It's not as involved as something like Krita, but it's got everything you'd want, and on tablets that actually have pressure sensitivity it responds to that too.

>>4930

I should mention that if you want shit beyond what MyPaint does like an actual fucking lasso you're gonna need to shell out 4 bucks.

But honestly I'd say it's worth it to have on something that fits in your pocket.

>>4810

I feel like the two buff dudes are moments away from falling forward.

>>4841

I was wondering wtf is wrong with the girl on the rights waist

>>3468

>tfw teal will never visit us

>>4897

Just checked that out. I get the feeling I might not ever win, considering there's a few other artists that have already been drawing every day for a few years, and probably don't plan on quitting any time soon.

>>4899

That's a lot of improvement, pretty cool. The feet especially look like they're starting to be in proper perspective and everything.

There actually is some symbol drawing in your second pic however, for instance the chin looks like an anime chin rather than something that makes sense.

>>4899

You've come a long way. I like how you're getting the overlaps on the body. The pose is a little awkward(but why better than a year ago). The book, "Force: Life Drawing for Animators" has some great info on establishing weight and balance.

>>4901

Sure, but /ic/ groupthink not only believes that symbol drawing is equivalent to hemorrhagic AIDS but that it describes all art that isn't perfectly rendered copies of Boogadoo paintings, so essentially 95% of the drawings that the userbase actually wants to produce. This person's chin might not be realistic but adding more realism there is probably very low on the list of useful adjustments to their drawing. Plus anime chin can be helpful to orient the head.

>>4902

>This person's chin might not be realistic but adding more realism there is probably very low on the list of useful adjustments to their drawing. Plus anime chin can be helpful to orient the head.

I mean the chin is there when it's not supposed to be. The entire upper body suggests that the camera is looking at the head from below, so the line separating the chin and neck should not be so visible.

Bump

>>4178

fixed your crossboard link: >>>/bmw/3627

>>3614

>I tried to draw part of a tree behind a window

Forgot to mention I tried to draw it while looking at various tree pics on google images.

>>3614

>I usually do squares around my drawing to limit my drawing space

What do you mean by this? You're essentially making the paper smaller?

That's fine, it's the same as zooming out and drawing a rough version of the drawing digitally, it can be overwhelming to have too much space, and even professional artists do small thumbnails and zoom out a lot (though you can't do that on paper). At some point you should try to draw bigger though, because otherwise you'll never get to draw details and more accurate things.

>>3614

if you haven't read drawing on the right side of the brain or keys to drawing, do that. Other than that try and draw the thing first and if you find yourself unable to then it's ok to look up tutorials.

asked this on another board, but i'll ask here too

anyone think these books are good?

got them for christmas & from a second hand bookstore

http://amzn.to/1PeXnAX

http://amzn.to/1Uw9n4J

http://amzn.to/1PMUsUK

http://amzn.to/1TEgubp

Just take a pencil and paper, then draw very general shapes of things. You want to get the proportions and geometry of things done right.

The most important thing, besides practice, is do not copy other artists. It is to your benefit that you have your own style.

>>4852

I would have to say that your character's face looks kind of niggerish.

Also, what program did you use?