No.2572
>currently reading E.H. Gombrich's The Story of Art
>especially like Dürer and Chinese paintings
>notice /art/
>expect interesting discussion about painting and sharing impressions, kinda scared because I'm only halfway through my first book about art and I'm really inexperienced
>a bunch of threads about anon art
>a bunch of threads about equipment (tablet, camera)
>the rest are mostly shitting on modern abstract art (even though the sacred cows, ancient Greeks themselves used a lot of abstract ornaments and stickfigure tier representations of people)
No.2582
>Complains about topics
>Posts Le Trashmeme
We trash modern art because it's baby's first rationalization. Getting past the "I'm a special snowflake so why doesn't anyone recognize my super genius" phase is a huge first step towards becoming a competent artist. Unfortunately, many people have staked a lot of ego on it's legitimacy, so they fight really hard to try and avoid that loss. Such is youth.
No.2588
>even though the sacred cows, ancient Greeks themselves used a lot of abstract ornaments and stickfigure tier representations of people
Why did art go from abstract, slowly into representational, and then 5000mph backwards to abstract?
Well, besides that aspect of it, there is nothing wrong with abstract art in itself. Greek painted pottery in itself is quite beautiful, and it's abstract! There's nothing wrong with ancient abstraction because it's not trying to be something it's not.
However, imo, contemporary art, which also happens to be very abstract, is trying to do something that it isn't and cannot do. It's trying to communicate abstract ideas that are too loosely connected with the artwork. It's like a comedian making a joke that only he can understand, then he explains the joke, and then he expects the audience to laugh.
Why is it that art went in this direction? Why is abstract art so much better than representational art?
Why is the art market so saturated with abstract work? Could you give me a reason why abstract art is objectively, absolutely better than representational art, and that's why the art market is saturated with it?
No! You can't! And I can't in any way say the opposite, that representational art is objectively better than abstract art, for reasons abc. The reasons are all fabricated, subjective, agenda-orientated.
And this, in my eyes, is the peculiar thing. Why is there so much subjective interest in abstract art anyways? In the art market there's this big bully declaring 'This is what has value! This is what doesn't!' And really there's no objective reason for doing this. And it's a sad thing, because the market might never be balanced, it will probably always be in favor of one. When the abstract art market is finally overthrown, give it another 100 years, and the same thing will happen again. Once again, no art is better than the other, it's a problem with the system, and society.
I recommend you start a board called /arth/ - Discussion of Art History, and then advertise it on this board and the /boards/ board. You won't get what you're looking for on any chan as there's no board like this, afaik.