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Solidarity Thread Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 05:25:02 No.2604

Hey guys.

Just wondering how things are going on your end. I'm the owner of another art board. We niggas gotta stick together you feels me? I see you link to me in your sticky (I won't say which one because I'm not posting this with the intent of cannibalizing any of your users, it's not worth mentioning); I will definitely return the favor when it's worth doing, but for now I'm just thingken of life and listening to 90's pop music. It's the only thing that can console the owner of a dead art board.

http://grooveshark.com/s/Be+My+Lover/3HkHe9?src=5

Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 05:27:48 No.2605

Also I think your css is probably the best I've seen!

Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 07:24:54 No.2606

>/art/
>users
It's been really dead here for a while. I wish I could contribute more to creative boards, but I'm such an unproductive shit sometimes.

I think in part this board might be ded because people who draw shit like furries might be deterred from posting in here because of a sort of automatically inherited /ic/ feel. I'm sure people wouldn't mind that kind of subjects though as long as nobody acts like an obnoxious faggot.

Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 16:38:29 No.2607

ded bords r best bords

Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 22:08:01 No.2608

>>2604
Well, /dpd/ here. Things are going alright. I've managed to get myself in a position where I can mass-message ~50 other anon/people /dpd/'s art creation threads. We have a master study thread going on right now if anyone wants to join.

Though I would like to get the opportunity to speak with the board owners of /art/ and /loomis/.

Anonymous 04/11/15 (Sat) 00:06:34 No.2609

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>>2604
we're all gonna make it

T ## Board Owner 04/11/15 (Sat) 13:14:04 No.2610

>>2608
>Though I would like to get the opportunity to speak with the board owners of /art/
Sure I'm here. I don't have a private contact channel so just post here or >>15 if you want to contact me.

dpd 04/11/15 (Sat) 19:40:14 No.2612

>>2610
what do we do to get people off ic and come to the 8chan boards?

Its not just about telling people 8chan exists, it's just that it's easy to keep posting on /ic/. You can tell people about the 8chan boards, but they stay on /ic/, even if they complain about how shitty the board is.

We all know the 8chan boards are really low in user-count, and this is not very appetizing for some people, I think.

T 04/11/15 (Sat) 22:41:12 No.2613

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>>2612
That's something people have been wondering since the first exodus to 8chan. It doesn't matter how much better 8chan might be, people prefer higher traffic, plus they're familiar with 4chan so it feels more like home even if it's not as good on a technical level. It's very difficult to convince someone to move to a dead board.

I don't really have an answer.
Maybe if people stopped acting like one is supreme and the other is for faggots and visited both, people might occasionally casually refer back to 8chan during discussion and spread the word. (though the issue with that is that you can't really say 8chan out loud without getting filtered/banned) They would get more familiar with 8chan over time and feel more comfortable posting here more often, maybe people tired of 4chan's shit would post more here. On the other hand, it might cause the reverse where 8chan users go to 4chan since there's barely any discussion here in certain boards. 4chan being 4chan isn't an evil that's constantly in your face anyway on some boards.

There's also the option of inviting non-imageboard users from other websites and forums, but that bears the risk of bringing in cancerous faggots.

As far as art boards specifically, getting a high quality oekaki application might attract people, but that's a bit more difficult. I actually have a pretty cool paintchat/oekaki that I made, we could host it as sort of an 8chan paint chat which might attract people, but I don't have a server to put it on. (pic related, video of an old version) I tested it with /b/ last year, and we had a lot of fun drawing dicks and swastikas together.
That's something 4chan has no equivalent of at all, so it might work to some degree.

dpd 04/12/15 (Sun) 00:24:48 No.2614

>>2613
Mmmm...yeah, the higher traffic thing. Someone told me an interesting thing recently... that we need to give people incentive to post. That's why I made a master study thread for /dpd/. I think linking group participation threads can help get more users.

I actually think inviting non-imageboard users is really viable. I imagine it will be easy for them to assimilate, given they are skilled artists.

Once before /dpd/ was brought up on /ic/ and I managed to bring some people over. Maybe I'll look around for another opportunity like this.

I implemented oekaki recently, though it's pretty bare bones, I agree. But I don't think a high-quality one would attract enough people. Photoshop and traditional is standard for creating images you want critique of.

I still have hope despite the inactivity so far...but especially for /dpd/ and my vision for it. If possible I want everyone from the 8chan boards participating on it, but I also don't want the other boards here to die. /dpd/ needs a higher user-base to really function, as it's only user-created art being posted. I think it's beneficial to have a board that doesn't allow discussion, since drama will not bring people in or out of it, and it creates a very different mood to the board. But also to have discussion possible very near to it, I think is a very interesting dynamic.

Lastly, I don't want /art/ or /loomis/ to 'just' become boards for discussion, nor do I think you guys have done anything wrong with your boards. Your boards have lent itself more for discussion, that's it. If possible, I want /art/ and /loomis/ help to make /dpd/ grow into its potential. I will keep it going...going..until it eventually becomes a very formidable place, and hopefully art will have a bigger community on this website at that point.

Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 04:05:06 No.2615

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/dpd/ came around and requested I show up, I guess I may as well reveal that I am the person that started this thread.

My board's stagnation is my own fault of course; even I abandoned promoting it in favor of shitposting on /ic/ and have generally been procrastinating in every conceivable way besides. As has been proven many times in the past, most of the people that use 4chan are quite attached to it and won't just abandon their board spontaneously without a mass butthurt event such as gatorgate for example. I don't see that happening with a board like /ic/ as it did with /v/ and /pol/; there simply isn't the same level of dissatisfaction there or heavy handed moderation. Not only that, but with /ic/ only having accrued just over 2 million posts in its 10 year history there simply aren't that many people to steal to begin with. /dpd/ did it right by bringing in outsiders from who knows where, but it will be slow for the time being because of its stringent policies. I think we're all going to have to follow his example but with respect to our own model.

http://grooveshark.com/s/Rythm+Is+A+Dancer/y22O6?src=5

Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 04:39:06 No.2616

>>2615
Er, I'm /loomis/ by the way. I thought that I'd put that in the name field but I forgot I accidentally clicked the browser "back" button on my mouse before submitting.

T 04/12/15 (Sun) 11:33:16 No.2617

>>2614
>we need to give people incentive to post
I've tried several times, but it hasn't worked too well, people might like the idea but they don't seem very motivated to participate. I guess you need someone to lead the way, but I personally have productivity problems so I can't keep it up for very long. My interests keep switching back and forth between programming and drawing and dying slowly, so there's times when I don't draw anything for weeks.

I also feel that as long as /ic/ is there, we don't have a huge amount going for us. It's too similar, so either you need someone with strong will, someone who doesn't know about /ic/, someone who prefers a quiet board, or something that /ic/ simply does not have. I highly doubt 4chan is going to do something to /ic/ that prompts people to migrate here en mass.

Things we have:
- Better, more open, more friendly moderators
- Oekaki that actually works and is embedded in a more smart way (though it has it's downsides)
- No subject matter is banned so everyone is allowed in
- A couple technical features that don't really matter
- More specific boards to browse alongside your main

>Photoshop and traditional is standard for creating images you want critique of.
Of course, I mostly meant that an improved oekaki could increase the overall art population, because it might attract more casual artfags. If it was good enough, it could also work for quick redlining. But as it is, the current oekaki is really unintuitive to use, even though it's embedded on the page itself it's still easier to open the image in photoshop and save and re-upload it for redlines.

>>2615
>even I abandoned promoting it
On that regard I guess I'm the worst offender. I made /art/ because there weren't any art boards back then yet so I made it out of necessity more than anything, and for the same reason I want to keep /art/ as a sort of "everything goes" board still, at least until there's a more meaningful amount of traffic to support a 'forced' split. I thought things would either sort themselves out with the inception of tags, or then people weren't going to come here to begin with. I haven't really advertised it since the beginning aside mentioning it a couple times during discussion on other boards. Some other people have decided to promote /art/ on their own initiative though, which I am very appreciative of.

I have mentioned 8chan outside 8chan a couple times though when I've posted my draw thread requests on muh personal blogs. I prefer anonymous imageboards even above gallery/blog sites though, so I haven't really cultivated a meaningful following.

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/loomis/ 04/12/15 (Sun) 13:59:26 No.2619

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>>2617
>My interests keep switching back and forth between programming and drawing and dying slowly, so there's times when I don't draw anything for weeks.

lol, I can definitely tell you're a programmer at heart. This board's peerless css is proof enough of that. Rearranging those replies in the sticky thread as you have is pure genius.

Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 22:22:49 No.2626

>>2617
I think the stagnation of /ic/ is initiative enough. The only group participation thread is the generic photostudy thread. The art threads are just posting images, hardly anything specific.

I have a lot of ideas for group participation threads on /dpd/. If it's okay with you guys, can I make a /dpd/ thread on /art/ and /loomis/? Everytime I create a new group participation thread/or someone else makes one, I'd then link the group-thread in the dpd threads on your boards.

The poster I.D.s I think are very useful for my board, as it keeps track of users and prevents samefagging. And the multiple image posting really makes posting a lot easier.

I have a solution for the promotion thing on /ic/. Skype threads garner a LOT of people. Somehow I became a moderator of a group of 38 people in less than a week, and now I'm telling all of them to post on /dpd/ to get gud. Eventually they'll go.

Lastly, I will do my best to bring people over. From /ic/, as well as people I find who can create quality posts from other forums.

>>2619
I agree, the css here is awesome!

dpd 04/12/15 (Sun) 22:37:06 No.2627

>>2626
wups, this is dpd, forgot to put the name in

T 04/13/15 (Mon) 11:12:32 No.2632

>>2626
>can I make a /dpd/ thread on /art/
Sure I guess, it's not like there's much of anything else going on here anyway so I doubt anyone would be bothered.

That's why I didn't lock or sage >>2601 even though it's technically not allowed here. It's so quiet right now that I don't mind relaxing on the rules.

Anonymous 04/13/15 (Mon) 19:10:46 No.2633

I don't want a board to draw shit.

I want a board in which I can discuss already made artists, and in which I can talk about Rothko, Emin, Warhol, Basquiat, without people bitching out about muh degeneracy much jews muh conspiracy theory muh naked emperor

dpd 04/13/15 (Mon) 23:35:32 No.2640

>>2633
You need to make your own board. Art history/art appreciation board. Or a contemporary/modern art board. Advertise on 4chan's /ic/ to make a skype group of people who are interested in modern/contemporary art, and then use the board you created for use by the people who join the group.

If you do nothing, you won't ever get what you're looking for. Take a leap forward, it's not that hard to make a board(if you're okay with standard css).

atomisation no draw,no mod, ideaguy 10000 05/25/15 (Mon) 06:39:47 No.2867

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>want more traffic

>splits up art board into +5 boards

pick one.

i think moot's right about how fracturing a community kills it. but that depends on your average user's lurking/posting habits, into sub-boards.

i don't really see why you'd need more than one art board when 4chan's /ic/ was as slow as it was.

then again, as one wise dick said

>"if you're posting, you're not practicing."

why can't one board have general threads for

>personal work critiques,

>hardware/software questions,

>group study/collab

>fine art dumps,

>artisan/sculpture dumps,

>career advice/feels

>avatarfag threads

>news/lolcow/drama/bad art thread

>request threads

>deviantart/tumblr/soc/skype contact thread

>offsite rooms:plug.dj , irc, oekaki, drawing games

and just general offtopic stuff, inspiration or other goodies

atm i see multiple threads on the same thing, but scattered around.

/tech/ solved this with stickies

then again, they do have high enough traffic for all of those threads to be a problem. and /drc/'s stickies are kinda annoying with only one visible reply each. imo

the power of /v/ and /pol/ is that they've fostered communities, not areas of specific discussion.

/v/ has webm threads that aren't even vidya anymore, and put >>>/b/ webm threads and >>>/wx/ (the fucking porn board) to shame

/pol/ has white culture threads, fine art, and classical music threads that put /art/ fine art threads and >>>/mu/ classical music threads to shame. (though i'm basing off quantity > quality. i dunno much about fine arts/music)

granted, afaik, discontent with their original community boards (GG, sjw mods, google/nsa paranoia) caused the exodus to the top 5 boards

pol / v / gamergatehq / tech / furry

on the matter of user traffic,

a. didn't 4chan became popular thanks to publicized 4chan antics? so will 8chan antics do the same

b. you're not just competing with other boards, or 4chan, but every other (online) art forum.

>"good artists copy, great artists steal."

time to do some window shopping

c. a good product is its own advertisement. see picrelated ic-collab

/mlp/ became more and more popular within the brony fandom because of pony thread simulator videos on youtube,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPB1uLEBkD0

anonymous drawfags including Anon in their hilarious pictures, defying standard 'brony' G-rated humor, and became near viral in the fanart-revolving-fandom, leading to popular artists joining in on the fun

and the goddamned /mlp/ fandom drama. you guys could always start shit with famous people. just saying :^)

Anonymous 05/25/15 (Mon) 12:56:03 No.2891

>>2867

>you guys could always start shit with famous people

Sounds fun but I'm not sure it would work. Most of the fans of famous artists (at least internet ones) always seem to not be artists themselves so even if they came here it wouldn't produce much more activity.

Especially with drama around artists, I'd image that most people who are serious about art wouldn't bother following it.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 05:18:21 No.2944

I'm a sometimes poster on /ic/.

I don't post very much there, but I stay for the variety of discussion. I don't take it seriously but as something to check during my breaks it's pretty entertaining.

I recently found out about this board and /dpd/, and I enjoy the quality of the posts. I think they seem very serious though, and that may be what is scaring people off? Just a shot in the dark, I don't really know.

But I discovered something recently, that the founder of 8chan is not a very respectable person to express it nicely. Can this be discouraging people too? I know that mentioning 8chan on 4chan is not allowed. Can someone enlighten me why?

These days, the only art boards I regularly browse are /ic/ and reddit's Art sub. /ic/ because there really is no good alternative in terms of community size. Reddit is just to see what's out there but I don't think I'll miss it if it disappears one day (it's mostly recycled content you can find elsewhere).

I long for the days when ConceptArt forums were good. There was good support and camaraderie and serious artists posting all the time there. And if anyone remembers that far back, sijun and eatpoo forums were amazing. What happened? :'( No community has what they once had. And that high concentration of top posters will likely never happen in a forum again. But maybe I shouldn't give up just yet...

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 11:27:12 No.2950

>>2944

>the founder of 8chan is not a very respectable person

Can you elaborate what you mean? He's better than moot, and that's all that matters to most of us here.

You're not allowed to mention 8chan on halfchan because they don't want to lose any more or their user-base, since half of us came here during the great exoduses.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 14:10:41 No.2951

>>2950

OK, I had to dig through my history. I admit I only perused the following and thought OK and then moved onto something else, so I could have been too hasty in my conclusion, but here:

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/8chan-pedophiles-child-porn-gamergate/

That article was linked in the middle of a discussion on Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/37ip9r/is_the_founder_of_8chan_an_inspiration_or_was_the/

I didn't bother to view the video in question or read the comments in depth. I got a negative impression of the founder, but for me personally that wouldn't cause me to dismiss 8chan itself. I don't even know the story behind the exoduses, nor am I interested (I am not into internet culture at all), so I understand I may not have the most well-informed opinion.

But I wondered if other people would boycott 8chan for similar reasons. It was just a thought that popped into my mind. I'm sorry if I stepped on any toes, I really didn't mean to.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 14:12:34 No.2952

>>2951

>perused

Sorry, I meant "skimmed."

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 14:24:24 No.2953

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>>2951

>DailyDot

>r/SubredditDrama

Jesus Christ, is 4chan this overrun by SRS shills?

As far as I know, there is no CP to be found on this website. If there is, people report and it gets removed and forwarded to the authorities.

I hope you enjoy your stay here, because 8chan has produced an enormous amount of OC in the past 9 months.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 14:38:51 No.2954

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>>2944

>hotwheels

>not based

you're free to check him out for yourself

https://twitter.com/infinitechan

like other anon said, careful which well you drink from

>>>/b/2887001

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 14:48:43 No.2955

>>2954

>>>/doxthecripple/ this is a good board.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 14:49:11 No.2956

>>2951

The media has a massive hateboner for Hotwheels since he welcomed gamergate and refuses to globally ban anything that isn't illegal, so they've been trying to pin anything they can on him and get him banned from payment processing services to cut his income and get him to quit.

I'm not clicking on a dailydot link but I bet that article references a medium post by someone called Dan Olson, he found some pictures he claimed were CP that weren't getting removed and wrote about 8chan being a den of pedos sharing CP. The guy got reported to some Canadian law enforcement organization for downloading and editing the pictures for his article and they said the reports were unfounded, apparently the pics were some creepy shit like childrens beauty pageants or something but not actual CP.

Anyway, the article was used by a lot of outlets as ammo against HW to try to get 8chan shut down and all of this drama and attention only happened months after the gamergate exodus to 8chan, so they're ptobablg just trying to shut down what they see as a gamergate hub.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 18:17:33 No.2957

>>2951

Well, I'm pretty sure the pedo thing is made up and it doesn't matter to me at all (or most of the users here) if he is natsoc. pretty sure he's a lolbertarian though

It probably does stop people coming here, but 4chan had the same reputation with /pol/ and /b/, so you'll never get the types of people to be put off by this stuff into a chan board.

Ultimately you'll never get this place to have the clean respectable image that places like conceptart have, but that's not the aim really. Ideally we'd be attracting enough chan users who draw to make this place a bit faster, rather than just normie artists.

>I'm sorry if I stepped on any toes

Not at all, I just haven't found any real reason to dislike hotwheels personally, so I was wondering what you had heard.

If it seems like people are touchy about it it's just because people are pretty grateful for him providing a new "home" for us after the owner of 4chan betrayed us.

Plus the fact that him and 8chan always seem to get attacked unfairly makes most of us pretty defensive about this stuff.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 21:32:57 No.2958

Thanks guys, I had a feeling there was some part of the picture I was missing. That was informative.

>Jesus Christ, is 4chan this overrun by SRS shills?

Are you suggesting I got these links from 4chan? I didn't, in fact I think 4chan doesn't care much for Reddit, but what do I know.

I browse only /ic/ and Reddit casually (that's how I found those links) but I don't identify with either of them. I avoided 4chan for a long time but I've been looking at /ic/ for a month or so and it's not as bad as I thought. But it does take getting used to, especially since I am not a heavy internet user in the first place. But if there is some gold nugget to be found somewhere I am happy to swim through some poop.

I plan to visit here and /dpd/ regularly now, you guys are great.

dpd 06/02/15 (Tue) 19:25:04 No.3000

>>2944

Thanks for the tips regarding the board. I'm not sure how to alleviate that, though.

>>2957

that's quite sad really. permanoobs failed to gather professionals. What went wrong? Do we just wait until the userbase becomes a bunch of professionals? I can say that there is no great forum or public art hangout in existence today, in comparison. The only effort that can be made in 'finding it' is taking part in the creation of it, somewhere.