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 No.3524

I already know that it takes a lot of time to get better.

I feel like I'm never gonna get any better with drawing. When looking at my older drawings, it looks the same as how I draw today.

It feels like I'll never improve my art techniques. I have looked at tutorials and references many times but it hasn't helped me.

It's not the other hobbies that I have which distracts me from being better at art such as programming and music well?

Can somebody tell me how to get better?

I am also tired of nobody criticizing my art.

 No.3526

>>3524

First off, don't feel that way. I felt that way after I stopped drawing for a year and went through crap after that decision, and only recently did I start drawing again. I t helped loads in adding stability back into my life.

Secondly, it sounds like you lack a personal investment in your art and you don't look at other people's art a lot. Change that. Find out what kind of subjects you like, draw those. Follow other artists and go to sites like ArtStation and Permanoob. Artists are rather willing to share information that can help, trust me. Just communicate the specific issues you have.

Also start seeking out information like crazy. There are the fundamentals, which you damn well need to know, but a lot of quality is in the little details as well.

Experiment. If you're tired as fuck at trying to draw realistically and failing, just draw in visual styles you like, like maybe Yoji Shinkawa's. It helps loads to draw in different styles, because then you see how a concept can be applied differently. A lot of people progress from "I wun draw animes" to "oh wow I can actually draw anime" to realistic, god-tier paintings.

Hope this helps.


 No.3527

>>3524

When i feel that way i try to get into the mindset of drawing because i like the activity rather than intentionally trying to improve.


 No.3539

>>3524

How often do you try?


 No.3558

post you work and people will tell you what you need to do.


 No.3562

>>3558

This


 No.3566

OPfag here again.

>>3526

Thank you for your words and giving me better sites for art. I will try my best.

>>3539

I make 2 drawings every week. On my computer, notebook or plain paper.

>>3558

No one will notice my drawing unless if I'm on DeviantART. But people will never give any criticism but only weeaboo bullshit comments about your artwork to make you feel better to make you continue drawing bad stuff. If I show my drawing to people in real life they wouldn't give a fuck about it.


 No.3569

>>3524

Well, first than anything ask this to you, why do you draw? Do you like it? For money? It's fun? Want to be popular? Why?

I see you make 2 drawing per week, it's not enough. If you wanna be pretty good at it you must draw everyday. No matter how "insignificant" or "bad" might be, everything you draw will help you out to improve.

Personally, when I'm stuck I do things I enjoy and makes me happy, like playing video games with friends, watching movies & cartoons and analyzing techniques, process and styles from people who I admire (Digital and traditional). Somehow t's inspiring.

I'm interested on seeing your drawings, would you let me?


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>>3566

You are on /art/ m8 a decent spinoff of /ic/, we are fewer and thus slower, but we are honest and we can help you.

Don't worry too much, we've all faced this rage/depression for not being as good as we would like and the feeling that we're not going to improve; it's bullshit, you can do it, everyone can get good.

Just draw and study everyday (you hear me?, every day), take it easy on yourself, and use that frustration to fuel your progress.


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>>3570

read these if you don't know what to do (appart from drawing everyday)

>>3457

>>3459


 No.3590

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Find the simplest yet most painful thing to draw and grind at it. Maybe it's just perfecting straight lines and circles. Do pages and pages of them every day. How about perspective? Gesture? Form and light? Colour? Design? Can you name and draw all the bones and muscles of the body? If not, then grind at anatomy. Or maybe you got all the fundamentals down but never draw insects, so do insects. Only by studying with intensity, volume, and frequency will you ever make any progress, and like strength training you gotta start with the lightest weights first.

So quit filling your head with useless information. You gotta apply yourself to challenges if you wanna push to the next level. Keep looking for your next weakness and attack it relentlessly!

You need to be able to, at any moment, sacrifice what you are for what you will become. Most of you won't be successful because when you're studying and you get tired, you quit! How about you quit fooling yourself. If your skill level isn't where you want it to be, you don't got time to be taking a break. But the problem is you don't even know why you wanna draw. You don't know why you wanna be successful. All the decisions you make say you'd rather be a nobody because you're all about your feelings.

But don't cry and give up, cry to keep going! Don't cry to quit. You're already in pain. Get up and fight back until you get a reward from it!


 No.3595

>>3590

Call me crazy but I don't think people who take permanent brain damage for a living are the best examples of role models.

>>3566

I'm pretty sure he meant post drawings here, now. It's an art board that's kind of the point.


 No.3597

>>3524

Keep trying buddy, Perhaps you should start improving something small, Maybe learn how to draw better hands? fingers? My art were horrible back then, Shits were disproportionate, Ugly, Stiff, etc, But i improved, No reason you couldn't improve yourself.

Also post your art

>>3566

>No one will notice my drawing unless if I'm on DeviantART

How do you even get noticed there? The most view i ever get on my drawing were 3-5


 No.3602

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>>3597

by posting quality artwork and submitting it to relevant groups.


 No.3603

>>3597

Deviantart isn't a huge fan of realistic or loomis-y things. If you want to get noticed, you need a good stylized and colorful art style, and ideally a popular fandom to draw fanart for.


 No.3607

Drawing from pictures or real life and not taking more than 2-3 mins per drawing has helped me tons

After a burst of 10-20 drawings, check your favorite ones, see what you did right. Check your bad ones, see what you did right and wrong, try to make them again. If you're noticeably bad at something, grind at it like a motherfucker

For example I was bad drawing faces. So I started doing 10-20 faces 2 minutes each from pictures, then started to look less and less at the pictures. Started to draw from life. Now I've made over 500 faces and can get the idea on how to proceed on a portrait and about half of them look decent. To me none look impressive but friends and other people who are into drawing and sculpting are amazed at my progress.

But guess what, the other day I tried an acrylic painting and made hair. It was awful, tried three times and, albeit it got better every time, it ruined my whole painting. Guess what, since then I've made about 50 hairdos from people I see on the bus and now I can solve those issues almost effortlesly.

So all in all:

1) Draw a lot

2) Draw fast. Avoid fixing, do something new

3) Make lots of shit

4) Start doing stuff you don't know how to solve

5) Don't be afraid to check other artists, photos, copy, trace

6) Make shittons of stuff

The thing here is that not everything you do will be good, it's something like percentiles. 50% mediocre, 20% shit, 20% ok, 8% good, 2% 'shit how did I even make this?'

If you make shitloads of stuff you won't mind your shit drawings (instead you'll skim through it or probably even say 'at least I learned x from this') and start to appreciate your good ones. Over time your average works will be way better than your average works from months ago.

That's it I guess.


 No.3608

>>3602

Oh hey nice drawing th... Yeah nice drawing

>>3603

>colorful

Welp, Shit, I'm horrible at coloring.

Still, DeviantArt is kinda funny, Shits like sanek OC, Half assed written porn stories with shitty grammar and typos everywhere have more attention than my drawings, I'll just stick with drawthreads


 No.3610

>>3608

>Shits like sanek OC, Half assed written porn stories with shitty grammar and typos everywhere

Retarded minds think alike I guess. It's very hard to tell what exactly makes those kind of things popular despite the significant lack of quality.

I think it may be some kind of socialization aspect, they actively partake in the community within the shitty coldsteel OC corner of the internet, and the circlejerk gives them lots of views/favorites no matter what kind of garbage they upload to their deviantart.


 No.3613

>>3610

That's exactly it. DA is sort of half art gallery half FB. All your friends are on the same art level (usually) and you just have fun being a 12 year old sharing your drawings and making stuff up.

Then there's the fandom part on top of it as you said. Usually kids are too scared to try to talk to people who draw well, so they find other fans at the same level to do the above with. So they just constantly pump out bad drawings with high views.




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