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 No.3785

Hello /art/, i know this question might have been answered a thousand times or probably more, and maybe my answer it's on the FAQ of this board, but I've been looking for help to deal with this strange force of mine that prevents me from picking up a pencil and learn the core fundamentals of drawing and i don't know how to deal with this, and the only advises I've been getting is to just simply do it.

The last instance where i was practicing drawing was 5 months ago but i had to quit due to having to study for exams and ever since then i haven't had the feel to draw anything.

The site i was using to practice drawing back then were the lessons from drawabox.com but even then i didn't thought i was going on the right direction.

I did, however, picked some books to learn drawing but i don't think they are for absolute beginners like me. I've been even reading the Power of Habit to start incorporating practicing drawing as a daily routine but i still haven't figured out how to find a cue that could make me want to start practicing more drawing.

I've been also considering just taking art courses but at the moment all of them are not available and even still i keep thinking they're not for me.

And apologies for the blog post and if I'm writing this on the wrong board, i just don't know where to find a solution to this.

 No.3786

File: 1440151738117.jpg (141.43 KB, 1083x567, 361:189, Untitled.jpg)

>get something to draw with

>make messy lines

what do ye see in this picture?


 No.3787

What do you want to draw?

Have you tried drawing that?

You can always incorporate all kinds of practice and exercises into general drawfagging.

Try to figure out why you're avoiding art. Are you disappointed that you don't have the skills? Is it physically exhausting? Would you rather shitpost in 8chan? Do you really even like drawing?

Motivation is one of the most common problems, and there isn't any solution that works for everyone.


 No.3788

I have also been using drawabox to train drawing but I didn't enjoy it. Drawing became a chore instead of a hobby, so I quit following the site and just followed tehmeh's advice on how to become good.


 No.3790

>>3787

OP here, i have been wanting to practice perspective drawing and try to draw everything around me but the reason why I've been avoiding to learn drawing is primarily procrastination and it even felt like a chore instead of a hobby like >>3788 said whenever i tried drawing and I've been also considering just taking a break from playing video games and browsing 8chan for a while just to see if i can get back my interest in practicing drawing.

Motivation is not a problem for me thought, It's just that i don't feel like i have what it takes to get good at drawing. The reason why i even want to learn drawing is due having heavy interest in art and to have an excuse to take a break from video games and browsing the internet mindlessly simply because it's not productive at all.


 No.3815

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>>3790

I was in pretty much the exact same position just a few weeks ago. I'd wanted to get better at art, but inevitably I'd draw boxes for a few minutes, get bored and frustrated, then vidya all day. Finally I got fed up and decided to do what I'd heard repeated over and over: Just sitting down and drawing what I liked. I pulled out my tablet and drew my favorite video game character the best I could using what I'd learned so far. For the first time, I was enjoying drawing, and it was an amazing feeling.

Although as you can see I ended up getting stuck and not finishing it since after a while things got too confusing, I learned just yesterday that's because I'm trying to do detail and perspective at the same time, rather than making primitives and adding detail to them later. So, from one beginner to another: try drawing stuff you think is cool, and learn from your mistakes. However, be sure you can draw at least "OK" boxes, spheres, and cylinders first. Everything is made of primitives.

I'm still pretty terrible since I'm still very much a beginner, but I finally found that "drive" to practice that was missing. Looking forward to improving and seeing just what I can make.


 No.3816

Not trying to hjack OP's thread but I have a similar problem so I figured it's better than making a new thread.

My problem it's pretty much the opposite of OP's problem, I can learn fundamentals all day and I've even gotten somewhat good at perspective(still shit at shadows though) but I don't know if I should move foward yet so I just keep drawing squares and simple forms in 3D, should I just say fuck it and try to go learn more complex stuff or what?


 No.3817

>>3815

OP here again, i got a question though.

what kind of routine would you recommend to get myself to practice drawing without getting hesitant to do something else?

For the past couple of days, i was considering just joining an art course that is pretty close to where i live but even then i would have to require a good routine that does not involve getting distracted with other stuff like vidya or TV.

>>3816

Not that I'm good at drawing stuff (because I'm not) but I'd suggest you keep drawing whatever you want until you feel more confident with your drawing while still keeping in mind the fundamentals.


 No.3819

>>3817

I'd say the best way is to literally write down a schedule and set a time period for drawing practice. If you have time set aside every single day for practice, you'll get better.


 No.3825

>>3817

I've read the book "The Power of Habit" up until the starbucks chapter. You're overthinking the cue thing. The cue does not actually make you want to do the routine until you've run through the habit loop many times, creating the connection between cue and reward. You're putting the cart before the horse there with your thinking in the original post.

You need to experience the rewards of drawing over and over again in conjuction with your cue. Feel the tactile sensations as you draw. Calm down, focus, stop worrying about things, and just draw. And visualize, or try to feel/intuit, the form of whatever you're drawing. Take some chances and try to do something creative or different than what you usually do. In this way, drawing can be meditative and rewarding. And when you're done drawing, be proud of yourself for doing so.

Your cue can be something as simple as a sketchbook, and many others.

Lastly, drop the videogames. They will distract you from drawing. And drop the mentality that you can't become good at drawing. How good you can become depends on how focused you can be and the opportunities you seek to help your training, such as seeking critique.


 No.3826

>>3825

I stopped reading "The Power of Habit" up until the starbucks chapter as well, not that it's a coincidence but the the book started to get more repetitive as you read it more, i might probably finish it sometime soon.

Here's the thing though, every time i think about starting to draw stuff i always start worrying about other stuff like irl things, and even playing video games began making me more stressed than relaxed.

Needless to say, a few days ago i joined an art course just for the sake of it yet i don't know what to expect or if i made the right choice.

And of course, i think i mentioned dropping video games for a time, but i have no clue how to lay off from them without feeling miserable. Though, I've been considering dropping the computer for a time as well so i don't get distracted too much.

>>3819

I will keep that in mind, thanks.


 No.3828

>>3826

You just have to go for it. It's the same for me, I'm miserable and down in the dumps after deciding to stop playing a game. It's kind of like a withdrawal. And the longer you've played the game, the worse the withdrawal, I think.

Gaming, especially MMO-gaming, is the opposite of what it means to make art, I think. In games you can cut down a tree in second. In art, to see results in your work or a single drawing takes far longer. However, the results are real and mean much more.

The art-course was a good idea. Even if it's not the highest quality, you can grow from working on the assignments, and benefit from the classroom environment.


 No.3829

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>>3817

>whatever you want

That's the problem, I want to draw more complex stuff, but once I actually go try it I end up not even trying because of how complex it looks. Take this pic for example, I can do 1 and 2 well enough, 3 looks impossible other than the basic shapes(which are also hard because I'm only using a mechanical pen and an eraser) and 4/5 looks like something I won't be able to draw unless I pratice daily for 10 years.


 No.3830

>>3828

That sounds fair, considering that video games aren't as entertaining as they were back then, but either way, I'm gonna have to take a break from them entirely.

By the way, is there anything else i should do before i start taking art classes? Is it a good idea to practice the Drawabox.com lessons again just to warm up until my classes begin? Just wondering though.

>>3829

I get the point, because the more complex the object is, the more effort I'm gonna have to put to make it look good and without practice, It wouldn't look good at all.


 No.3831

>>3830

It's more of a "it's going to be so shit I shouldn't even bother" kind of thing. I feel like I should advance and I know that if I don't try I'll never get better, but the next step looks impossible.


 No.3836

>>3830

If it's a beginner drawing class, you will probably be doing still lives and maybe blind contour drawing. https://www.mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8 You can read about some of that stuff in Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson, which you can get here. You probably won't learn much about the drawabox method of drawing in class, but you can still apply what you know from it if it doesn't contradict the lesson's purpose.


 No.3849

>>3829

I just tried my hand on number 2 and 3 and it was odly sattisfying to draw.


 No.3855

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>>3829

Study my man, If you really can get 1 and 2 right, you only need to internalize new info and build a visual library.

Don't doubt yourself that much, if you really practice and study daily you will be doing 5 in 1 year tops.


 No.3856

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Here's a schedule you can try.

Remember to use the materials on the sticky to learn, it's the best instruction you can get for free seriously, don't go learning from people like chris hart, jazza or mark crilley, they might look like they know what they are doing, but they don't

Also, remember to study like in school, take notes, memorize and internalize information, learn for real, don't just fiddle the books every now and then, take everything to heart

Personal favorite as a starting point is the michael hampton one book, alongside proko and some sycra vids, incredibly helpful.




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