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File: 1412268929927.jpg (224.56 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, IMG_3295.jpg)

 No.796

Hey /art/, what's the best performing graphics/drawing tablet for the price that's out there right now? Would you say it's worth buying over it's competitor's products?

 No.803

Wacom is the sure way to go, but I haven't actually tried modern alternatives so I can't say much.

I can say though, that other tablets seem to have batteries in the pen, which can make it heavier and/or a nuisance to deal with.

 No.817

I've got a Huion 610 pro. When it's working, it's significantly better (and bigger) than the intuous at the same price. On the other hand, the drivers are god awful and I've already broken a pen (70% my fault and it was only $20 to replace.)


The rechargeable battery in it really isn't an issue. Basically the same weight as a wacom pen and every couple of weeks plug it in for a few hours. You don't even have to stop using it.

Do I recommend it? If you're tech literate enough to deal with shitty drivers, sure. If you want something straight plug and play...probably not.

 No.829

it costs a lot, but if you're looking for one that doesn't have a screen, go for a wacom intuos pro/5 medium or large. I bought a small and my hand hurt after 20 minutes of using it, and i have small girly hands. I think that you should invest in something with an active area larger than your hand both ways, or you will have bad cramps.

I recently bought an old x60 lenovo thinkpad tablet pc since I am a poorfag and don't want to pay for a cintiq, being an amateur and not a professional.

It cost me $60 in total. I am currently running photoshop CS6 on it (i found that CC was too slow) and easy paint tool sai. The os is Windows 7.

My friend has two huion/turcom tablet without screens (i am unsure of the exact models) and they are so rough. it feels like a pen through sandpaper. don't get it.

Monoprice tablets are smoother, but not as precise. Quite bad, in my opinion.

Wacoms have always been smooth and are great if you get one with a large surface area. Don't be afraid to buy an earlier model.

>TL;DR: buy a big wacom

 No.904

Been using an Intuos4 since it came out

 No.2051

>>904
My friend just got one of those and gave me his Wacom Bamboo CTL-460.

Is there any real difference in that one with other drawing tablets?

 No.2140

here's a tip that I think /art/ should have because I'm moving here from /ic/ cause it's full of elitist cucks:

lenovo thinkpad x220t (secondhand) between $280 and $600

versus what conceptart.org wants you to buy

entry level cintiq (wacom with a screen) $1000
2013 macbook pro (licensed refurb) $1,200

I got the I7 model with 8GB ram for $500. I love this fucking thing. the most economical graphics tablet is a laptop.

 No.2177

>>817
what do you mean by shit drivers?

 No.2185

>>2177
A lot of people have trouble getting the drivers to work in the first place. Personally, I've only really had success with one set and not the newest ones. It works perfectly on some programs, kind of in others (I had to set it to mouse to make it work in the Gimp, so no pressure, although there might be a fix), and not at all in some (I think either Krita or Sai didn't work, I can't remember which, although it might be fixable or work with the newer drivers if they work for you.)

It can also do a weird thing (and this might be it working in tandum with the awful drivers on my audio interface) where if the USB chord slips out while I'm drawing everything will be fine until I shut my computer down, and then it will crash, so I have to wait and shut it down again. Easy to solve by just leaving it on a desk or whatever though.

Oh, and the side buttons are completely unpredictable. Sometimes they don't work, sometimes they do exactly what they say, sometimes they pick up new functions. I don't use them, so it's really not an issue.

 No.2186

Some of the generic drawing tablets will work with Wacom drivers. I used to use a Monoprice with Wacom drivers and it was the best non-Wacom tablet I used. Downside was it only worked on a 32 bit computer and I upgraded to a 64 bit (also that was four years ago, so this may no longer be accurate)

Has anyone tried using a Surface Pro, a Yoga, or any of the new tablet PCs for drawing? I've heard mixed things about them and don't want to spend that much on a new computer if it isn't better than using an Intuos.

 No.2188

File: 1422169848773.png (71.92 KB, 811x805, 811:805, trace.png)

I got my easypen I405 just today, I never used a tablet before so I have to get used to it, I just traced this from a picture, I will try to do some stuff from scratch later but so far what do you think for someone who never used one?

 No.2203

>>2140
Pressure sensitivity and all?

 No.2209

>>2203
yeah dude. wacom penabled. it even works on linux if you're into that.

I think there's a fujitsu that has the same wacom specs and a bigger screen, but the computer is old as fuck and they cost a fortune.

 No.2213

>>2140

What's wrong with /ic/?

I liked the lenovo stuff when I used it. I think I actually prefer their tablets over the surface pro. Surface has been buggy and the hardware seems badly designed.

 No.2215

Wondering about either getting a Wacom Companion 2 (that actually let you use as a regular Cintiq when plugged to a PC/Mac, and runs on Haswell) or a Surface Pro 3.

PaintTool SAI, Manga Studio and the main programs of Adobe (PS, Ill, InDesign) is all I plan to use.

 No.2216

>>2213
/ic/ is too fast, unfriendly.

and yeah, I wouldn't buy a surface. bad free software drivers, bad build quality. I'm also not sure if those bluetooth pressure sensitive smartphone pens work with pc's. Though I'd certainly be interested if someone wants to test them.

 No.2218

>>2216
>/ic/ is too fast, unfriendly.

damn, how much has it changed since the initial exodus? I stopped going there in 2013 but still browsed occasionally last year, even then I still remember it being a pretty slow board.

 No.2290

Should I get a Inutos4/5 or get a x200t? How are Wacom's linux drivers?

 No.2296

>>2290
Wacom support on Linux is awesome. I own an x201t and it works awesome. Also, Krita. Use it.

 No.2297

>>2296
also sorry for typing like a retard

it does need a bit of fiddling to get the pressure sensitivity levels working correctly, though.

 No.2495

If you really want to, you can get one of the ThinkPad tablets. They use wacom tech, and you have the ability to take it anywhere, assuming you actually have places to go. The older ones are cheap as all hell, and can be upgraded to modern standards for about the same price as a good tablet. IIRC they have ~256 layers of sensitivity. Otherwise I'd just say get a big wacom for as little as possible.

 No.2501

>>2188
lol i literally have the same tablet. Pressure can be a tad bit wonky on the really loose end I think but nothing you can't get overwith a bit of tweeking in the settings

 No.2506

Anybody here have experience with Monoprice's tablets? They're pretty cheap (10x6.25" for ~$40), which makes me wary, but I've yet to have a bad experience with Monoprice. I think I might take the plunge and get one.

 No.2510

I got a second hand 12WX for cheap and damn does makes a difference when you can actually paint directly directly on the image. I still draw like shit but its so much more fun. If you haven't tried a pen display I suggest you do. It kicks ass.

Polite sage for off topic.

 No.3380

>>2185

I have the Huion 608N. In Linux pressure sensitivity worked out of the box, but couldn't get function buttons to work. In Windows 7, pressure sensitivity and function buttons worked okay. Function buttons are kind of shit since they're on the drawing surface and you'll end up clicking something on the screen accidentally or some dumb shit.


 No.3384

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Are Trust graphic tablets any good? I plan on buying one once I git gud hopefully in a few years and from what I have seen the Wacom ones are expensive as fuck in here. The small ones are somehow cheaper than in the US but the medium and large ones are almost 3 times as expensive. The Trust ones are relatively cheap and they seem to have a good size, pic related is cheaper than a Wacom Manga small and it's bigger than an Intuos medium.


 No.3389

File: 1436235647414.jpg (37.68 KB, 625x416, 625:416, ishygddt.jpg)

>have bamboo fun tablet

>got for about $100

>lose stylus one day

>try to find replacement online

>stylus is $125


 No.3394

I have an old Wacom that doesn't even have driver support anymore and uses the Bamboo one.

Robust, they are robust I'll tell you that.


 No.3409

>>3389

dude that shit is like losing a limb


 No.3414

why can i draw decently on paper but not with this shit?


 No.3415

>>3414

From what I've heard the texture's different from paper so it takes a while to get used to it.

Though I don't even have one so I don't know for sure.


 No.3416

>>3415

Yeah, i think that's one of the key hurdles, it feels weird without the pen making an impact on the surface.


 No.3431

>>3416

This is such an alien concept to me. I got a tablet early on so it feels very natural to me and I don't see why texture would make a difference.


 No.3674

File: 1439208157000.jpg (18.38 KB, 770x433, 770:433, 33773062-2-1333-OVR-1.jpg)

This is pretty ancient, but it does well at a good price.


 No.3754

>>3674

what model is it?


 No.3765

>>3431

when you gesture sketch you tend to keep a light grip on your medium, so with a smooth surface it feels unnatural and can make you crosshatch or shade differently i think. not that non btw.


 No.3802

>>829

For the money the x60t/x61t is by far the best active stand alone digitizer money can buy. They're under $100 typically, are incredibly easy to repair and durable with great ergonomics and a 4:3 12" screen that is almost exactly the size of an A4 sheet of paper.

The only issues are the weak low voltage CPU, DDR2 ram in it that's expensive, older batteries and poor quality screen with low standard resolution. The X200 series tablets use a smaller 16:9 12" screen and don't have the same build quality but have better specs.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X60_Tablet

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet

You'll find guides on customizing the front panel buttons and calibrating the digitizer stylus on the above pages if you use Linux. It's too old to use Krita but Mypaint works perfectly on it. And it's fantastic as an ereader as you can draw/write on pdfs using xournal.


 No.3920

Hi I think this would be the best thread to ask this.

How do you all hold your tablet? Do you keep it flat or at an angle like an easel?

I have been doing both but think I should pick one and stick with it.


 No.3923

>>817

I've got the Huion 610 pro too. Seems good to me and was 60 CAD (so 50 USD or so), free shipping too. Got it since I wasn't sure if I'd get too far in art, and wouldn't want to waste a lot of money if I wouldn't follow through with it.

The pen tip squeaks sometimes for me. Works on Linux, but the buttons are mapped pretty weird. Not that I use them anyway, I just use my left hand for keyboard shortcuts.

>>3920

I use it flat. Same way I'd draw on a sheet of paper.


 No.3926

File: 1442193681650.jpg (95.01 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, 61uFVt2218L._SL1200_.jpg)

I use this monprice. It got it as a present for Christmas(my girlfriend thought I could play RTS games on it)but she said it was pretty cheap. Works fine. And I finally started learning how to draw because of it.


 No.3970

>>3926

I want one. But I am not sure.


 No.3975

>>3926

can you play rts games tho?


 No.3991

File: 1443023735805.jpg (70.28 KB, 936x737, 936:737, $_86.JPG)

I used a Wacom fun and touch size M with the wireless addon, very cool.

223$+44$ (ye)

but my Monoprice 12*9 is awesome,more precise than my wacom, those custom-active areas are sexy, and its good for the price (92$)

but not "touch"...not a problem really

random pic related

I dream of a Cintiq 22HD with a Ergotron , total 1000$, dammn


 No.3992

>>3991 I mean 2000$ ! ow


 No.4589

there's this decent looking tablet on amazon for pretty damn cheap. I'm not committed enough to put out the money for something as expensive as a wacom of the same size.

Can I trust it?

http://www.amazon.com/Parblo-A610-Graphic-Pressure-Anti-fouling/dp/B00UYMTRZS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1448825596&sr=8-3


 No.4596

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File: 1449030227288-1.png (1.12 MB, 1308x2589, 436:863, illy03.png)

File: 1449030227288-2.png (1.19 MB, 1191x2388, 397:796, paul01.png)

>>2213

>>2186

I bought a Surface Pro 3 for doing drawthreads and sketches and such. I ended up using it more for writing, but it's not too bad if you want a lightweight, Cintiq Companion-like device for $1000 cheaper. There are a few things you should know before jumping at a Surface device, though.

Firstly, there are a bunch of different models:

Surface

Surface Pro

Surface 2

Surface Pro 2

Surface 3

Surface Pro 3

Surface Pro 4

Surface Book

I wouldn't go with the Surface or Surface 2, since they're running Windows RT--and therefore, you probably couldn't get MS/CSP, Photoshop, Krita, or anything else to run. The Pro versions of each work fine. SP1 has battery problems and a crappy kickstand. SP2 is pretty good.

The Surface Pro 3 and Surface 3 are expensive, but don't feel too bad to draw on.

The Pro 3's screen size is a huge improvement over the previous generations--on the SP1 and SP2, you had to sacrifice space for either your tools or your canvas. While it worked, there's enough space on the SP3 for both.

The Pro 3 has an issue with low-speed linework, though. If you slow down and try to draw a very precise line, it'll look wobbly. Drawing at normal speeds works fine, though. SP4 apparently stabilizes that by a large percentage, but not completely.

There's also the issue of drawing on glass, especially with the default plastic nib. I've gotten so I don't notice it, but if you're used to how your Intuos tablets feel, you almost definitely won't like the Surfaces at first. You probably won't find your pen "slipping," though, which is what some people seem to be afraid of. If you have control over your pen on paper, you'll have control over your pen on a Surface.

For everyday sketching, anything in the Surface series will work fine (except the non-Pro 1 and 2). For serious painting, you'll probably want an 8GB model for your 5000x5000 canvases.

As >>2213 mentioned, Surfaces can be buggy. My SP3 has run into plenty, and they suck. The bugs almost always happen when you're opening the device after it's been asleep. Sometimes the keyboard and touchpad won't both work (pull it off and reattach it till it works), and sometimes touch fails to register at all. Restart to fix that. It's pretty quick on an SSD, but still a pain in the ass.

Also, Windows NSA Edition brings more bugs, but they're far more OS-related than Surface-related, such as having to retype your PIN on wakeup even if you have it set to not ask for a PIN on wakeup. Newest update fixed some issues, so at least they're working on it. I recommend staying on 8.1 if you have the option; it's just as fast and is less buggy.

Pre-PS2 era emulators work fine if you want some vidya on the side. Graphics are Intel HD 4000, maybe 5000 on one of the higher end models IIRC.

TL;DR: Buy in your price range, they all work for art. Later generations have more screen space. SP3 and above use N-trig instead of Wacom. Don't buy Surface 1 or 2; 3 is fine. Buy higher-end if you want to work with huge resolutions. The i5 models are a happy medium.

(Pics related are sketches on an SP3 using Manga Studio 5.)


 No.4642

>>3926

wife that woman


 No.4644

File: 1449721356957.jpg (79.5 KB, 660x432, 55:36, samsung tab a.jpg)

I bought a Samsung Tab A with the S-pen a while back. I got the thing open-box from Best Buy for about $200 dollars. I used a program for Android called Art Flow. I've also heard that you can use apps to remote into your desktop or laptop to use full fledged programs remotely. This lets you use all the programs you want to use and also use the resources of that machine rather than the tablet. I haven't tried that method out myself though so try it at your own risk. $200 dollars wasn't too much of a pain to lose. I'd be using it right now if it didn't get stolen.


 No.4645

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>>4644

here's some of the progress pics of pieces I was working on using Art Flow

These are terrible representation of my art s these are the only examples from the tablet I had. Please spare the criticisms.




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