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Pagan tribes in the 21st century - Wolves among the ruins Anonymous 10/17/14 (Fri) 10:11:27 No.119

"As the Hávamál (the words of the High One) says, “Each word led to another word, each deed to another deed.” While words matter, without action, they don’t count for much.

Jack Donovan recently visited a heathen tribe calling itself the Wolves of Vinland in Virginia. (…)

There’s no LARPing, invented aristocracies, or grandiose titles, but men (and, as Jack slightly neglects, women) living with desperate sincerity. Nor is there any pretense that they are actually Vikings or “jarls” of some glorious past – this is real paganism expressed through blood and ash in the here and now.

It’s something that can be done right now – without waiting for a “collapse,” or a metapolitical shift."

http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2014/6/15/wolves-among-the-ruins

Anonymous 10/17/14 (Fri) 12:13:02 No.132

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http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2014/06/a-time-for-wolves/

Anonymous 10/17/14 (Fri) 17:07:07 No.145

It's a bit like a hippie commune, no? But with mixed martial arts

Anonymous 10/17/14 (Fri) 17:56:16 No.149

>>145
They're all degenerate metal listeners by the looks of it but pro-white and devoted to the gods nonetheless

Asatruar 11/13/14 (Thu) 02:22:29 No.1267

>>119
>>145
Friends with a few wolves, been out to their place a few times too. Cool guys

>degenerate metal listeners
You're a fucking faggot

Asatruar 12/04/14 (Thu) 16:36:03 No.1605

Bump. Any moar info on this?

Asatruar 12/05/14 (Fri) 02:12:55 No.1607

How does one join this tribe? Do they have a webpage listing the locations of all chapters?

Asatruar 12/05/14 (Fri) 18:56:09 No.1609

>>1267
No, you are. Metal is degenerate and most metal listeners are wannabe viking faggots, period.

Asatruar 12/23/14 (Tue) 02:10:06 No.1835

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>>1609
>Fun is degeneracy
Maximum autism

Asatruar 12/23/14 (Tue) 13:40:58 No.1853

>>119
this is amazing. This is what I would want to contribute to. Not a bunch of hippie faggots who want to be special snowflakes.

How does one find groups like this?

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 04:03:17 No.4820

>>1853
contact them

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 05:38:55 No.4821

>>1609
It's music that sounds good to some people. Is it degenerate to listen to the music that appeals to you?

One of my favorite bands is Amon Amarth, probably the most cheesy, mainstream, wannabe-viking group of them all. But I'm not strutting around with a horned helmet and plastic drinking horns. I listen to them because their music is genuinely well composed and makes my ears happy, goddamn it. And say what you want but cheesy as they are, they did their homework, the lyrics are mostly fairly accurately drawn from history and sagas.

Bloodaxe!ozOtJW9BFA 04/14/15 (Tue) 05:44:53 No.4822

>>4821
Stop feeding the troll. He is either a /pol/ reject who got into asatru because it is "the true white" religion or he is a christfag. Either way he is a retard who does not know shit about asatru.

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 05:49:53 No.4823

>>119
I like shit like this. Tribes and clans and other such groups aren't all about ancestry. They had to start somewhere, at some point our ancestors just found other people wandering around in the woods that they liked and decided to band together, that's how the first tribes were formed.

Since most of those tribes are dissolved today, we might as well just start from scratch. I'd like to see one similar but a little less mma-oriented and a little more practical prepping and survival skills, go hunting and backpacking and shit like that, practice good self-sufficiency skills.

>There's no LARPing
>They're calling themselves things like Grimnir and Ref the Fox

I'd like to see something a little more modernized as well. Not entirely, don't get me wrong, I don't want to go the way of modern christfag churches holding potluck dinners in brightly lit church basements, but a little. We could stand to do away with the fake names, and ceremonies and feasts could be adapted to urban versions for people who can't innawoods.

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 05:52:17 No.4824

>>4822
I'm not just answering to him. This board seems to have a fairly low opinion of metal and Amon Amarth in particular, mostly for being so mainstream I think, and I'm pointing out that they're actually fairly solid, with well-made music and accurate lyrics, though as I said horribly cheesy.

Bloodaxe!ozOtJW9BFA 04/14/15 (Tue) 07:18:14 No.4825

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>>4824
Those people are contrarian dude. Since most asatruars are into metal and vikings they want to be edgy and hate on those two things. Also it does not help that these fags are basically reformed christfag /pol/lacks who think that asatru is not much different from Christianity. They are like the wiccatrus but in reverse trying to make the religion something it is not.

It is really funny that they shitpost on this board denouncing people who are into vikings meanwhile viking imagery is splayed all over this board (a lot of which was put up by the board owner). Board owner is most likely a metalhead too.

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 09:15:05 No.4827

>>4825
That Pepe, fucking saved.

I personally love metal, have done for years, but I think a problem with it is that while that it is good that it puts Heathen themes and thoughts and messages out there, attracting people, it attracts people that reinforce a stereotype. Now these people aren't bad people as such, they're WOO VIKINGS people with long hair and that's fine, but I suppose many people find the stereotyping that their presence results in to be annoying. These Viking nut-huggers who don't know that much about the religion but are generally okay people who would be willing to learn are certainly better than hard-leftist Wiccatrus, anyway. Some people are just beyond any form of redemption, but I don't think that metalhead Casualtrus are among these people.

For anyone talking about metal itself as a genre rather than about metalheads as people, no it isn't what our ancient ancestors listened to but let's face it - metal is a genre with a great deal of diversity of sounds and most metal bands exhibit impressive musicianship. They make music that has energy and feeling to it. Maybe you don't like it and that's fine, but it's definitely far better stuff to listen to than the overwhelming majority of modern music.

>>4823
The fake names make me cringe too, by all means change your name from something Hebrew to something of Germanic origin that fits in today's society like William or Edward, but the name changes to shit like Ingvar Odinsson make my dick hurt a little. That said, why do away with ceremonies and feasts? Getting people together perform some rites and then eat some good food is surely a good thing?

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 15:41:42 No.4828

>>4823
Well when your birth name is "Paul" that's not very volkisch. Hence Grimnir

>>4824
Their early stuff is great, their new stuff is okay but just doesn't interest me

Also
>that pepe

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 15:41:56 No.4829

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>>4821
>>4825
>Actually answering to a post that's well over half a year old now
>Seriously wanting to cook up a debate over this all over again

You seem to be quite bored

#smh

Asatruar 04/14/15 (Tue) 17:29:47 No.4831

>>4827
I like the rites and feasts, I just think they're trying a little too hard to replicate them as they were done instead of adapting them.

A feast can be held indoors as well as out, though it's not as fun.

Asatruar 04/16/15 (Thu) 22:38:47 No.4845

I think there should be organizations like the Amish, but Heathen instead of Christian.

Asatruar 04/17/15 (Fri) 01:42:21 No.4846

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>>4831
I've been to one of their ceremonies, it couldn't be replicated indoors. Not the echoing chants and the way the fire illuminates the trees

Asatruar 04/17/15 (Fri) 06:03:51 No.4849

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>>4823
>I'd like to see one similar but a little less mma-oriented and a little more practical

We will make the finest airsoft team!

Asatruar 04/17/15 (Fri) 14:36:04 No.4853

>>4849
I was talking about prepper tier outdoor skills. Hunting, fishing, foraging, survival stuff. Training with real guns would be good too, though.

Actually, though, paintball or airsoft is fairly decent training for real-life combat, certainly better than shooting at a standing target. The sagas say a man should always have a sword or spear at hand and know how to use them so he can protect himself, his loved ones, and his country, I think today that applies to guns.

Asatruar 04/17/15 (Fri) 19:38:26 No.4856

>>4846
I believe that, though if the faith is going to spread it needs to be accessible to people who can't get to the woods.

Maybe a group could organize a bus to take a large group to a ceremony at once?

Asatruar 04/17/15 (Fri) 20:33:07 No.4861

>>4825
eh, I just dont like metal because its not my thing. If I want to listen to recreational music I have other things, if I want to listen to Heathen music I have traditional european music

Asatruar 04/18/15 (Sat) 20:19:19 No.4879

>>4856
They're about elitism, not inclusion. It's meant to be tough to join. They don't get along well with more mainstream asatru groups

Asatruar 04/18/15 (Sat) 23:49:23 No.4881

>>4879
I wasn't just talking about them. They're doing their own thing, it's kind of cool but I wouldn't want a group with that elitist attitude for myself.

I do think that the Asatru faith should be more accessible to random weak city fags because the morality portion of it they likely already believe, though they do a shit job following–being brave and loyal to your family and country, and venerating your ancestors–which they could do with a good reminder to follow more closely. The rest of it–the practical parts like not being reliant on other people and systems, knowing how to survive, and knowing how to fight to defend your family and country, I think they could all stand to learn, and if we don't allow them in until they're already confirmed believers who follow our principles, they'll just go back to there sheepy, christfag ways and society will stay boring and weak.

>tl;dr I think Asatru would be good for modern society by teaching people to be loyal and have some balls

Asatruar 05/25/15 (Mon) 18:11:28 No.5586

>>4849

>airsoft

They're not a LARP group. They are, metaphorically, "creating their own world."

Asatruar 12/15/15 (Tue) 04:53:28 No.9025

>>9010

>Operation Werewolf

Lolwut

Asatruar 12/15/15 (Tue) 19:38:10 No.9030

>>5586

Sounds like LARPing to me

Asatruar 01/24/16 (Sun) 15:46:42 No.9416

>>119

wolves of vinland seems like a good thing to gain inspiration from, only thin thats kinda gay is that some of them give themselves old norse names, i find that a bit close to larper territory but rest of it is great, really hope that they can someday become self supporting

Asatruar 01/24/16 (Sun) 17:50:52 No.9419

>>9416

So what, they should be content with being called for the rest of their lives "Matthew", "James" or "Hebrew's-Golem" or whatever their presumably cuckstian parents named them?

Asatruar 01/24/16 (Sun) 18:36:02 No.9421

>>9419

yes but giving yourself a name like grimnir or ref the fox will just make your name cringeworthy, whereas something simple like erik or richard or something will make it a normal name. now, if that ref guy actually had qualitys of a fox ( like sneaking around and stuff) that name might have been a good way to describe it. besides, names like matthew and james and stuff don't come from that region anyway, the names were changed when the bible was translated, matthew for example was mattiyahu

Asatruar 01/24/16 (Sun) 23:53:22 No.9423

>>9416

I absolutely think that we should gain inspiration from these guys. Both the Wolves and Operation Werewolf are good organizations to model, especially in terms of forming a kindred.

As a semi-relevant tangent; how would you go about starting a kindred in your area?

raidh0!!gJsaBpcavQ 01/25/16 (Mon) 12:26:13 No.9425

>>9421

>>9419

A lot of people are named for their ancestors or other family and it's important to respect the connection that those names imply, even if they are alien.

It's unfortunate that their ancestors had adopted Semitic names, but I don't think it's a reason to throw them away. I think that the best approach is to stick with what you have if it's a name that runs in the family, but to resolve to phase out non-European names over the next few generations.

Asatruar 01/25/16 (Mon) 14:36:54 No.9426

>>9421

>>9425

Seems to me the better solution to changing your name would be to ask some of your (heathen) friends to get together and name you? Because names seem to have less power or expectation when a person names themselves.

Also you don't have ego-autists naming themselves like "GRIMNIR THE WISE ONE" but if somebody doesn't want the shame of being "Peter" the rest of their lives they don't have to.