No.2808
So some time ago there was a thread asking how the asatru/norse revivalist community would feel about none-germanics/mixed people joining the community and the general consensus seemed to be that it's up to the gods
But my question is about the community specifically, and how they would feel about someone me trying to bring back the old Norse lifestyle even though they aren't Germanic themselves
My bloodline, however, can be traced specifically to the founding of Dylfin, that was a long time ago though and it's only on my dad's side, my mother is Mexican.
Pic related, I hope I don't have to say why.
No.2810
It is a sketchy subject. I think that if you have germanic or european blood and you feel the call of that side then you are welcome (just as long as you are not like half nigger or something). I myself am almost 90 percent white European (Irish, Scottish, German, Czech). But am like a small percentage Japanese. When I was a child I had red hair (it turned brown when I got older) but my beard is still reddish. Also I have freckles all over my body. My dad had blue eyes and my mother is a red head. I feel the call of my germanic side the strongest.
But being half mexican is a bit iffy. On one hand you probably have some Spanish blood (European) but on another you have some native. Are you half white? What is your father's ethnicity?
No.2811
>>2808It's really just your father's bloodline that matters. I'm a quarter Guyanese, but fortunately on my dad's side I'm completely German and Irish.
No.2813
>>2810My dad is Anglo-Scott (Scottish and Briton) by ethnicity, his bloodline is the one that leads to Dylfin. He's actually blonde with blue eyes, in fact.
And my mom is kind of all over the place but it's mostly in the Americas, she's part Mexican, part Irish and part Chiricahua (unrelated to being Mexican)
No.2814
>>2811My dad was a quarter Japanese but he was also German/Irish/Czech. He had a german last name and blue eyes. His japness though was on his matriarchal side (his mother was half japanese half czech)
No.2815
>>2813I forgot we can use names on this board, so I'm gonna I.D. as OP
No.2816
>>2813Oh? Well you're fine then. Of course you will have some people on here who will get up in your case but fuck them.
They actually think the vikings never race mixed when in fact a certain percentage of Iceland can trace their ancestry to a Native American woman.
http://news.discovery.com/history/us-history/vikings-native-american-woman.htm No.2817
>>2816There will always be somebody saying no, hell I could be from Sweden and even be able to name the most recent Viking in my bloodline and there will still be somebody calling it offensive, but the least I could do is ask for the community opinion before trying
No.2818
>>2817Dude I traced my ancestry back to the battle of hastings. My forefather was a norman fighting on the side of William the Conqueror. He actually received a title and land from William (on my mother's side). Also I traced my ancestry back to vikings who settled in Ireland (on my dad's side).
No.2819
>>2818Mind if I ask your last name?
No.2820
>>2818And people were still like "Hurr durr cannot be asatru because you are not 100% Scandinavian and are not residing in Scandinavia"
No.2821
No.2822
>>2821Aw ok lol, I'm a Kinsey but like I said my name is traced back to the same place as yours
No.2824
I hope you race-mixed hybrids don't feel entitled to mate with pure European stock. Because that would be extremely selfish. Even more so than twisting a nativist religion into catering to outliers because of personal sentiment.
No.2825
>>2824No more than our ancestors who decided to try other flavors
No.2826
>>2825They coloured inside the lines, though.
No.2828
>>2825>>2826On top of that, their gene pool and identity wasn't in danger of being wiped out.
No.2829
>>2826>tfw I'm part of those little green lines in the America sectionI'm the first half-blood on my dad's side and the second on my mom's (my mom and her brother and sister are the first)
Technically I'm 3/4 U.K. and 1/4 North America
Makes for great genes though, I have my dad's insane constitution and my mom's resilience to sun burns
No.2830
>>2829Quadroons are not pure European, sorry. Practice Euro-religion all you want, but remember that European Americans practiced the one-drop rule for good reason.
No.2832
>>2830Yeah, part of me wishes I was full-blown Scandinavian for the same reason I want to try to live they way they did (or at least the way we think they did)
But at the same time I like having the kind of genetic advantage (euro constitution, Latino skin) that comes with being a mutt
No.2834
>>2832>But at the same time I like having the kind of genetic advantage (euro constitution, Latino skin) that comes with being a muttOf course, there's no reason for self-hatred.
If have this hypothesis that race-mixed people are faster to get into ethnoreligion because they know exactly what they're missing, more than the average purebred bluepill. But you wouldn't want to spread your identitarian confusion among future generations of the unmixed pool, right? I believe race mixed people should stick with each other, and sooner or later they'll find their own way as a group.
No.2835
>>2828This is worth bearing in mind. Whenever people say B-B-BUT UR ANCESTORS WEREN'T SO RACE-MINDED they need to bear in mind the context - our ancestors didn't need to be as race-minded to survive as we need to be today.
That said, I think little of those who would tell people like we have ITT who are mostly white, with Germanic blood, to fuck off just because they have some non-European blood. By all means, everyone has the right to say "I don't want to be your partner because of your blood" if that's how they feel, but I think it's silly to say "you can't be my friend/can't share my faith because you're 1/4 Japanese" or whatever.
>>2818That's interesting. I haven't traces everything so far, but I'm almost entirely English though I'm aware my paternal line comes some several generations back from Ireland and the surname it carries is one that wasn't present at all in Britain until the Battle of Hastings. Presumably I can take from this that the name comes from Norman settlers in Ireland, which wasn't an uncommon thing at all (look up "Fingallian"). Bauer is a German name, no? Are you from the States?
No.2836
>>2835Yep, I'm from California. And Bauer definitely sounds German.
Been lurking btw, not responding because I can't think of anything besides "that makes sense" and "I can respect that" for a response
No.2837
>>2835Yeah I am originally from Chicago, Illinois but have been living in New Mexico for the last 7 years. And yeah my last name comes from my German side.
Also this might be not much but I have a strong midwestern accent which is an accent that developed from German/Swedish immigrants.
No.2838
>>2835>our ancestors didn't need to be as race-minded to survive as we need to be today. Neither do we, Coudenhove-Kalergi.
No.2839
I doubt it'll ever be much of a problem hardly anyone even knows wtf Asatru is anyway.
I would say as long as you're over 50% European it would be fine but I wouldn't encourage it, and turn the place into some hippie free love all inclusive politically correct bullshit.
You can't go to a reservation and be a Indian just because you want to. It's by blood and it doesn't matter if that hurts your wittle feeling.
No.2840
>>2839I definitely try to avoid political correctness whenever possible, not because hurr edgy or anything I just legitimately think being politically correct is retarded, it's nothing but after way to say "I don't like what you're saying so you're not aloud to ever say it"
To me old traditions are more important than keeping everybody happy, especially when it comes to cultural appropriation.
Just like someone would need to ask permission before joining a reservation, I feel like I should have to be sure that basing my lifestyle off a culture I'm only partially connected to isn't a problem
No.2842
>>2840My grammar was all over the place in that post, sorry guys
No.2854
you could do it nothing is stopping you, but it's a bit weird. kind of like uncle tom worshiping white people
No.2855
Does it look white?
Does it talk white?
Does it act white?
It's white.
No.2863
Far as I'm concerned, I'd say that the Germanic gods are the rightful gods of all Germanic people and they're in our blood.
But everyone else is welcome to join too if he feels called to it.
No.2866
>>2838>Coudenhove-Kalergi.Forgive my poor education, but even after googling this lad I don't catch your meaning.
>>2836Ha for sure, this thread seems full of sensibility. The plebbit Asatru board has more than its share of filthy universalists, this board seems to have some "99% Swede but 1% Finn? Probably a Lappish Mongol, can't be Asatru"-types in it (though in fairness, I'd take that over the plebbit Wiccatrus…) but this thread seems to be full of decent folk making decent discussion.
May I ask you Clapistanis: How is Asatru in the States? I get the impression that you have more Asatruars than Europe has, except for perhaps Iceland where it's an officially recognised religion (UK when?)?
No.2872
>>2866>Coudenhove-Kalergiwas a racemixed Austrian nobleman (his mother was a Japanese princess) who, post WWII, wrote
Praktische Idealismus, an ideological blueprint for the EU. He believed that the 'spent' peoples of Europe should mongrelise with the world "to save themselves", while being lead by a
jewish natural aristocracy. Don't read if you're in Germoney.
https://archive.org/details/Coudenhove-Kalergi-Praktischer-Idealismus No.2873
>>2866>>2872(/pol/ image cites him as a Jew, he just married and associated with them. No actual genetic proof)
It's always a mutt that has that "crabs in a bucket" mentality isn't it? Our EU has taken Coudenhove-Kalergi's ideas and put them into codewords.
"Anti-racism" is just a code word for anti-White.
"Diversity" and "multiculturalism" are code words for White genocide.
No.2884
>>2855Does having naturally pale skin but the ability to tan well, as well as speaking "standard" American English make me white?
>>2866Unfortunately I would have to give credit to white supremacy
note: I'm not anti-white, but defending your heritage isn't the same as racial fascism and the fact that the loud people stand out the most.
No.2896
I think it's ok to stay within your general group. For example most forms of Indo European paganism are pretty much the same with cultural variations, and in that general "Indo European Paganism" umbrella term exists Germanic paganism, encompassing Norse, Anglo Saxon etc. The difference between different forms of Germanic paganism is almost entirely the language and names. A Native American following an Indo European form of paganism is pointless, but an Anglo Saxon following the Norse form of paganism is completely acceptable. I think most people stray towards Norse because there's more literature on it than most other forms of Germanic paganism
No.2937
>>2808You can fuck off.
Every mexican thinks they're european.
I'm sick of you mongrelized special snowflakes.
No.3454
>>2834Yes. I have dealt with the difficult issue of counseling a child born to uncaring parents who practiced that…horrible activity. I basically wound up telling him the same.
>That his race is how own to make, because that's really the truth, and the only way to reimpose order onto the chaotic situation, which is what we desire.>>2835Yes, that's very true. Obviously, we are responding to a problem–the problem of our Race being threatened with total annihilation. Unfortunately, my heritage is not perfect, either, but I strongly support White preservation and particularly this Germanic Folkish movement, which is what we need.
It is quite likely that most of us would run into someone who wouldn't want to marry us because of our blood, and we have to deal with that like grown men and women.
Really, we need our Race to survive long enough to where we can deal with our longstanding problems with better genetic engineering and things like that.
>Our objective for the short term needs to be not being wiped out and RAISING AWARENESS to our Folk.This is my belief.
Also, I am going to plug a website for people that want more information:
>>>Odinia.org No.7927
Dad: 1/2 Hawaiian, 1/2 Norwegian
Paternal Grandfather: 100% Norwegian as far back as anyone in the family can remember
Mom's side of the family is from Northern Italy 5km from the border of Switzerland as far back as anyone can remember.
How fucked am I for being accepted?
No.7928
That's fucking it, I've had enough of these posts with every cunt under the sun posting his fucking heritage then asking the same question. I am no longer going on fucking /asatru, since this seems to be the only shit anyone posts.
No.7929
>>7928
I find it pretty funny tbh. Folkish ancestral/racial heritage is a very big part of the norse european ethnic faith so calm down brah
>Unrelated cool picture of a zeppelin because why not
No.7998
>>7928
if only White Peoples/Aryans would suffice, but no we have to go freakin Biological Materialist with how much Muh Heritage this has became
(*slavs are not white in the same way as germanics etc etc, they've got their own folk religions, but you get the point)
No.7999
>>7929
> Folkish ancestral/racial heritage is a very big part of the norse european ethnic faith
At the same time, no pure-blooded people exist these days afaik; we need to think Aryan Spirit and spiritual racism > biology, lest we fall into arguments like OP ("I'm negro on the outside, but my great great great grandmother slept with a european slave-trader am I accepted guise")
No.8000
>>7999
*what I mean is, we need clearly defined boundaries and some sort of exclusionary criteria set up if we are to succeed
you don't hear of Shinto or the Hindus splitting hairs the way we do
No.8018
>>8000
I still think that leaving the power of inclusion/exclusion up to each individual group is a natural and effective solution.
For example, ask any ethnic Indian what most Hindus think of Hare Krishnas.
No.8188
>>2818
how can you trace that far back? any tools you use for it? i know that i'm partially descendant of a prominent frisian fishermen/traders family but that is as far is i go back