/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

>>3673
>>3676
These are the only two posts with anything remotely worthwhile saying to me.

What I am looking for from you is a comprehensive defense against this popular charge against you. And to plug your ears and say that there is no such charge and that it has no validity only weakens your position; how much stronger would you be if you could convince us that somehow your religion is legitimate, that it is more than just romantic roleplaying?

It is not out of hatred I'm saying this by any means. Imagine how exciting it is for me to learn that there exist people out there who are motivated to resurrect the religious practices of my ancestors.

However I'm also forced to accept the fact that, indeed, my ancestor's religion was destroyed by Christians some hundreds of years before my earliest known ancestor was alive. All of my known ancestors have been Christians.

I most then view Asatru as a romantic reconstruction. Something akin to if we tried to rebuild Ancient Rome in Nebraska.

Basically, I would ask myself, what is the net personal goal that Asatru tries to bring forth? And I will answer, a certain racial/ancestral consciousness where folk are bound together and aware of their traditions, passionate about their freedom, and at one with nature.

But am I able to do all of those things without Asatru?

Yes.

Then what need is there to play with the flimsy idea of false-worshiping Zeus, Mars, or Loki?

Romanticism.

>>3712
>worshiping

Like I said, you people always manage to let it slip that you have no clue at all what is going on in heathenry. Of course it's a reconstruction, you dolt. We are qualified to execute that reconstruction because we are heirs to the legacy of the people who came before us.

Like Anon notes in >>3719 this is stuff that is intrinsic to the European soul. For example, Christmas may ostensibly be about the birth of the Jewish social justice god, but European polytheism is quite literally the reason for the season of that holiday. Likewise the festival celebrating the birth of that god is still named after a Germanic goddess. In Spain they carry their idols through the streets just as a thousand years ago, with only a wink and a nod that they're "saints". Vetrnætr? Samhain? Uh, err, yeah that's just "Halloween"! All Saints' Day is tomorrow, Goy! Yeah, that's it!

Everywhere you look, all over the world, these Christian holidays are just the thinnest veneer over prechristian local customs. And the veneer is peeling away, because there's no real, lasting fulfillment in worshiping the Jewish war god and his SJW kid. It's foreign. It's alien. And everything that was fun about it was just appropriated from our ancestral faiths in the first place.

But just as I said, you simply have an incredibly limited conception of spirituality. You insist on gods with these supernatural traits. You insist on texts with these specific pedigrees and call it "scripture", or to you it's not a text. You insist on rituals with these specific parameters and call it "worship", or its not religion. You insist on standardization and uniformity and all of this systematized kosher crap that literally nobody cares about outside of Semitic monotheism. You're not really even ready to talk about the stuff until you take a few steps back and look at the bigger picture of human faith and culture.

And so, like I said you would, you unravel your own charge against this movement. All on your own.

Sage until you have an original thought.

>>3726
I think the key to worship is fun and a very simple messsage.

That may sound cheap but it's why Christmas and Holloween have lasted so long.

What we need is to re-orginize Holloween and Christmas with a simple message and a fun time.

Same goes for other worship. Something I would want to go to. Because I don't want to hang out and "do ritual" with a bunch of people I don't know. Christian churched offered something: Free food, a lesson for the illiterate, forgiveness and threats of doom, singing (I hate singing), as well as meeting and greeting like minded people or future compaignions.

That's what we need. Also stop using "pagan". It's a Christfag word for "goy".

>You are identical to neo-nazis.

A BLOO BLOO

Fuck off back to tumblreddit and don't come back, would ya?

Some are just role playing.

Those who still reside in large cities and are more for the 3rd Reich than any true return to Norse ways.

But there are some who actually bother to move away from this and return to a life more akin to theirs, who actually research into their various rituals and try to make themselves into more hardened warriors akin to what they were while still being closer to their Norse lands.

The ones who roleplay and still live in inner cities, especially in central Europe or south eastern USA are more prone to be mislead by those who only wish to use norse paganism as some sort of anti-jewish and anti-christian triumphant political movement/wicked heathan enemy so as to help either undo what they see as the Jewish Demiurge (something that is slightly more Luciferian than Norse) or to trigger the Jewish Isaiah and finally see their savior who will unite everyone against those mean Norse and convert all those Jews who really only were poor mislead souls in need of JAYSUS CHRAAST.

Either way, if you are in a more modern city in an area that the Talmudists have more control over either through the state or the relgion, like central Europe or south east USA, you are going to get easily infiltrated and coopted and you aren't going to be as authentic of an olden times pagan. At the very least, research into their older ways and trust less people who wrote about them both after the fall of the 3rd reich and after 1913 and the massive Talmudic banker take over, and if you're going to be in a large city or near one, make sure it doesn't have too much Jewish/Luciferian influences like say Atlanta or San Francisco or New York or Hollywood.

I'd advise all other pagan movements and/or neo-spiritualists (those who do not reject all spirits who are not of the Jewish god or Devil as outright demons) to also avoid said cities and movements, as they are part of the great modern Lucifer and Adonay coopt of nearly every movement since 2001, where Lucifer is your local Crowlean Master "Mason" (they're in the south too) who probably is speaking with various helish/hadesish spirits, and Adonay is some local Bnai Brither 33rd degree Jewish ascended master playing an act.

>>3654

>Legitimacy

So, I guess what you're saying is that we need to wipe Christfags completely out of existence and then say everything to anyone that becomes interested in said religion that you just said?

Because I'm down for that.

And I would already fight you for your "neo-nazi" bullshit, so why don't you step on out of here, anti-white?

White people are not pretending to be White. Christfags are PRETENDING to be Jews.

>Put that in your PC pipe and smoke it, kike lover.

>>3728

The Christfags changed the meaning of the word through misuse. Originally the Pagani were survivors of White genocide in ancient Rome.

>tfw learned that from Odinia.