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 No.5337

Hey /asatru/, new guy here. Can someone summarize the difference between Celtic paganism and asatru for me? I'm about 50% german, 50% Irish and I'm not sure which way I want to go. I'll be doing my own research as well but I just wanted to see if you guys could summarize it easily

 No.5340

In many ways they were fairly similar but there are numerous differences. I am a Germanic pagan (asatru) and know a little about Celtic, but very little. I know the Celts believed the head co contained the soul, and they would carry the preserved heads of their ancestors in ritual and their enemies in war, sometimes even throwing heads at their enemies.

the Celts were a much older culture from what we know. Their culture used to occupy most of Europe in Germany, Spain, parts of northern Italy and France. They had many "tri"gods, gods that had 3 aspects but were always one. This is a reason the Irish converted very willingly to Catholicism.

the early Celts and Germans did not seem that different except in language and mythology, along with art. Celtic art is often symmetrical and circular, based on spirals and complex patterns. Germanic art however is often asymmetrical and angular. It is quite primitive and barbaric looking compared to roman and even Celtic art but there is an oddly alluring quality to it, it is strange and abstract but ancient and powerful. Just looking at runes seems to emanate a sort of power.

the Celts also seemed a little more organized, at least in Gaul and Iberia, but the British Celts were as savage and warlike as the Germans, st least according to the Romans. The other Celts however had chain mail, albeit rare even among elites, before any other people. They also had a king ship system a little more diplomatic than the Germans.

their mythologies and cultures in their most explored aspects are very different, but to an outsider or initiated they appear to be just a palette swap. Even the Romans confused the belgae tribes for either Celtic or German, as their languages started to mix along the Rhine borders.

just feel and think, meditate on which names appeal to you the most. Wotan or lugh. Explore your ancestry as much as you can.


 No.5342

>>5340

>barbaric

>savage

>primitve

Fuck off back to reddit with your anti-pagan buzzwords


 No.5348

>>5342

How is it anti-pagan? those were words the romans called them.


 No.5350

>>5340

>>5337

problem is there are many "celts"

you had the germanics being divided into continental and norse but with the celts the divisions are slightly bigger and more abundant, specially in places they mingled with other people (Iberia, North Italy, Britannia)

I think that if OP is interested about celtic paganism he should look more into the celtic culture of Ireland and Britannia since he's part irish.


 No.5352

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For starters: Both have been infested by Rebbitors and non-whites and SocJus types. Asatru is less corrupted of the two.

If you want to do some research on Celtic Paganism, here are some sites:

http://imbas.org/

http://www.paganachd.com/faq/

Be warned, most/all sites on the subject are corrupted by feminists/tumblrites/revisionists.

While Asatru is also being co-opted, there are several groups actively against such faggotry (like this board). I'd say that the majority of Asatruars aren't fags, but there is a vocal minority.

If you're looking for info on Asatru, check the stickied thread's OP.


 No.5354

>>5352

well fuck me, you were right about those celtic sites being completely subverted. "We welcome people of all races, you don't have to be celtic to practice celtic traditions, we are strongly anti-racist". fuck that, i would be more willing to associate with a movement that took greater pride in their genetic heritage, so i guess asatru it is


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 No.5379

>>5354

I think this was discussed in a Wicca hate thread but yeah, most Celtic pagans are no more better than wiccans. There are two primary reasons to this, one is the Celtic revival movement in England during the 1700s which although nice in some ways since it showed renewed interest in ancient paganism, was harmful in others. Many fools claimed to be modern druids and spread romantic bullshit about the Celts and druids. One claim for example is Stonehenge was an ancient druid temple, which has been disproven yet continues to be a common belief among Celtic pagans.

the sad fact is that the druids were slaughtered by the Romans long ago and their whole history was orally based through the druids. So most of the lore knowledge and wisdom of the druids is forever lost.

the second reason Celtic paganism is tainted with wiccans and weird fat girls is that its heavily sold as a nature religion similar to native American shamanism. This is perfect for white guilt liberals because it allows them to rebel the white Christian male while not culturally appropriating. So they make it into this religion about female empowerment and feminist environmentalism. Germanic paganism is a little scarier to liberal hippies because they are more familiar with its violent aspects in Viking terms and the fact the Nazis were the last major movement at a Germanic revival. In the end the Germans were as natural as the Celts and the Celts as warlike as the Germans, but they still had vastly different mythologies and values.


 No.5383

I respect Celts just as much as Germans, but if you want to be a true Celtic pagan it is so much harder, there are less sources the whole Wicca and new age bullshit. I Have Germanic Celtic and Slavic ancestry, but Germanic paganism is the way to go.


 No.5413

>>5383

I wouldnt say its the way to go, but I definitely appreciate my Germanic ancestry. I am glad that my ancestors' lore has been preserved and lament that the Celts' and Slavs' have been wiped out for the most part in terms of their lore and in some cases populations.

however if you are celtic and you are truly drawn to the celtic gods you cannot do anything but that. if you do not feel a connection to the germanic gods or your germanic ancestors (if you have any) then dont become a germanic pagan


 No.5529

>>5379

Yep.


 No.5833

>>5337

versus? there is no versus you fool.


 No.5834

>>5833

I think he means "in contrast to", rather than "in opposition to".


 No.5835

>>5834

All meanings of words used are significant, knowingly and unknowingly




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