/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

Regarding the second topic, why not convert it and repurpose it towards pagan use? I see no reason to destroy such beautiful things as cathedrals or stave churches, which are purely European despite their Christian usage. Do as the Christians did to the Anglo Saxons, instead of destroying it merely dismantle the altars, destroy any image of Christ, bless the church with sacrificial blood and offerings, then put in shrines dedicated to the gods. The Vatican would be beautiful with roman gods instead of saints and Angels, and the old churches in England Germany would do good to have wooden idols of our gods

>>5679

i have a hard on for choir music personally. i would love to see this repurposed for pagan purposes.

>>5679

This seems like a good idea.

What do we do with the history though?

The same we do today, just say "they believed in this jewish deity called Yahweh, and did that stuff for him"?

>>5682

I have the sane feelings for Gregorian chants. One of the historians bede or saxo I dont remember which, said that the heathen priests would growl like dogs for their chants. Maybe some form of throat singing?

I like many of the surface aspects of Christianity but we must remember that many of those surface aspects were pagan to begin with. Plus it would make going back to paganism a little easier for Europeans.

>All these saints, churches, art, myths, and stories relating to christian content, it is surely a loss of great value when it gets burned down and demolished.

I don't know how to approach this one, though.

This one is "easy" and has a good amount of poethical justice behind. In my country, when the christianization happened, our holy places, local deities, and basically anything religious that was arround the place, was co-opted; the holy places were converted to christian sanctuaries, the pagan traditions were converted into christian ones, the fests and religious parties were substitued with christian festivities, and such. European christianity, local festivities and even holy places of milennary cult for christians were, before they stole it, holy places for our religions.

It would just be a bit of vengance and justice to take it back (Im starting to sound like a Jew, but fuck them). So I say, take them back, their temples will be reconverted and the saints renamed, just like they did with our ancestors.

>>5686

this is exactly why I hate when Christians say paganism is dead and there's no point returning to it. Our gods never died, they just took up new masks and have been hiding as saints, devils and Angels. I know what you're talking about because in my homeland, the brothers Grimm fairy tales just reek of Germanic paganism. Thats why I had the idea of reconverting them into heathen stories in that other thread

>All these saints, churches, art, myths, and stories relating to christian content, it is surely a loss of great value when it gets burned down and demolished.

This shouldn't be too hard. LOADS (maybe the majority) of those saints and myths are simply pagan with a Christian coating. They would not be lost, they would just be re-reclaimed. If I have some more time and motivation I can try to compile a list of parallels I read about so far. I wanted to do that anyway.

>>5689

>Are there any sources on this?

The sources I have are books in Galician, so i dont really think you will be able to read them, sadly, but im sure there are tons of sources in english about this particular idea about the celtic cosmovision, surely a simple google search will give you good information about about this.

The number three is the sacred number of the celtic cosmovision, and some historians and specialists say it would even go further, to the Indoeuropean tradition. The triskel is a representation of the "three ideas, one reality" philosofy of the celts, being a representation of a lot of things in life and nature: the cicles of the Moon, crescent, waning and full; the three Moons of pregnancy, nine months, one new life; the representtion of life, birth, life, and death; spirit, mind, and body; Earth, Sea and Air…

>>5691

not even Celtic and I can confirm this, I remember that many Celtic gods existed in a similar way to the trinity , as three gods that are one. Lugh and the morrigan are good examples

>>5689

read some of the rig Veda anon. You would be amazed how similar it is to Germanic paganism, it almost feels like a lost chapter. Many Hindu Aryan practices could easily be converted and may have already been established in Europe, for example prayer flags and chanting prayers while making the sacred drink (soma for Hindu, mead/wine/ale for us)

the song John barleycorn has many similarities to the soma chants on fact, in that they personify the plants and tools being used to make it into a violent act that metaphorically represents harvest and produce

>>5683

Record it as it happened, we dont need to change European history. Put it in every detail so we always remember what happens when Semitic religion rule us.

You dont want to discard the history of Charlemagne and Olaf I?