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 No.5719

So I bought a set of runes and was thinking about using them for Divination. I was just wondering if anyone knew any methods (not influenced by new age wiccatru faggotry) to cast them?

Also is it considered Argr?

 No.5721

Sorry, I can't help myself.

OP is a faggot.


 No.5724

wat iz an argr


 No.5728

>>5721

Le EBIN shitpost m8

>>5724

It's what you are.


 No.5730

>>5724

I'm not sure but I think

seidr: tradition

galdr: magic

argr: faggot


 No.5732

No, runes are not argr, the only form of magic that was alluded as being argr is seidhr, and its debated as to actually why (no, they did not stick toadstools up their ass like Wiccans like to imagine)

And you should probably look into the way the Germanic tribes used runes, as described by Tacitus. Also, Futhark: A Handbook is Rune Magic is a pretty good book, it seems Wiccan on the cover and I think the author used to be a Satanist or some shit, but he knows his stuff and has pretty good insights on the runes.

Also I dont recommend using plastic runes like that. Make your own.


 No.5740

>>5732

My rune set is carved in horn. Pic related is not the ones I got just a stock image off google but thanks for the answer!


 No.5741

I don't think there is any known use for a set of detached runes like this other than divination. But as far as I am aware, the only primary source is Tacitus so you are pretty much on your own to determine how that works. But, then I would even argue that Tacitus is a secondary source.

From what I see in Tacitus, there is nothing to suggest to me that cutting the Elder Fuþark into detached chips and casting them onto the table is preferable in any way to just shuffling up a tarot deck.

Primary lore sources tend to describe prophetic dreams and consultation of volven as the main divinatory practices, so if you're really after Authentic True Asatruar Fortune Telling then that's the direction to look. Maybe a draumstafir will help.

I think we can be pretty certain that the "blank rune" we see in so many of these rune sets is nonsense. It fucks up the whole numerological harmony of the EF, so I would just set it aside in case you lose a rune and need to carve a replacement.

>>5732

I read it on a plane once and it's basically useless. The drawings of the runic "postures" are pretty hilarious though.

Stephen Flowers (aka Edred Thorsson) was run out of the old AFA after it came out he was involved in some offshoot satanist group. He went on to found the ultra-universalist Ring of Troth.


 No.5743

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Was thinking about getting this book. A friend of mine has it and highly recommends it. Anyone else read this or have any info on it?


 No.5745

>>5743

Last time I checked, Diana L. Paxson leaned toward the Universalist Wiccatru side of Heathenry.

Avoid.


 No.5746

>>5741

I didnt say it was perfect but its the best rune book I've read. For some reason the aspect of runes tend to attract the unsavory type, I think its because of a vague similarity to Tarot (which is complete nonsense)

If you have any better books on runes I would be interested to hear


 No.5750

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>>5745

Thanks! Did not want to fall for that trap again. I once read pic related thinking it would be interesting but it turned into some neo-feminist bullshit that accused of Woden of being some narcissist male power fantasy bullshit. Literally threw the book in the trash.


 No.5751

>>5750

Would like to note that the cover of the version I had did not say "Feminist" on it just said "A Jungian understanding of Wagner" or something to that extent.


 No.5754

>>5746

I just don't see how you can do any better than a couple of paragraphs of Tacitus plus copies of the rune poems.


 No.5755

>>5741

Which specific work by Tactius though? Am looking at books online now.


 No.5756

>>5755

The passage you're looking for is from Tacitus' work: "Germania."


 No.5757

>>5756

KK am downloading an audiobook of it now. But thanks also might buy Taking up the Runes or Futhark: A Handbook to Rune Magic too


 No.5758

>>5757

It's like two paragraphs. An audiobook is perhaps the hardest way to find it. It's quoted in full in the Wikipedia article on runic magic, just read it there.


 No.5759

>>5757

Its a very short book, Germania that is. You could probably find a PDF pretty easily just googling it.

Theres a specific part where he describes their methods of divination


 No.5761

>>5758

>>5759

I do not mind listening to the whole thing I need something to read anyway…


 No.5808

>>5761

>>5761

Its a good read, very interesting. Completely changed my outlook when I first read it because I didnt really know about the Germanic tribes, who are really my true ancestors not the vikings.


 No.6078

>>5719

we dont actually know much about runes as divinitory tools beyond what Tacitus and the various rune poems tell us of them (which is basically: the runes had names, people wrote them on things that were thrown, and somehow, this gave oracular knowledge)

now then, most systems you see /x/ types or even certain modern heathens using typically derive from the works of a little crypto jew named Ralph Blum. Mr.Blum wrote a book in 1982 called "the book of runes", where he basically smashes together

>the names of the runes

>the I Ching

>medieval tarot

and combines it with new age tier ideas about how divinitory magic work (basically, if you know how wicca sees divination, then you know how Blum sees it).

the shit poffered about by the likes of Diana paxon and edred thorsson inherits alot of thought from Mr.blum's work.

the great big tl;Dr of it is: if someone tells you they have a system for predicting the future with runes, its likely derived from this jew charlatain's work. otherwise, rune divination, like seidhr, is a relatively lost art.

the runes are letters. their magic is in the fact that they let you listen to the dead.


 No.6085

Wouldn't be argr or seidr


 No.6088

>>6078

Normally I would agree with you but there has got to be some similarities between rune casting and other known systems of divination. I am not saying Blum would be 100% correct though.

Do other Europeans or even Indians have systems of divination that we can compare by?


 No.6377

>>5745

Confirmed for Wiccatru. My friend had a copy of this book and I read only like the first 50 pages and it is littered with universalist bullshit. She also speaks of consecrating runes with "moon blood" (that is period blood). Avoid this author at all costs!!


 No.6381

Doesn't Germania by Tacitus say that the Germans only let a woman, who cut a branch off a fruit bearing tree and carved the runes for a one-time use and laid them on a linen cloth do rune divination?

Regardless, the way our ancestors looked upon Seidr, this is no different. It's unmanly and you must let the women take care of that aspect of our faith.


 No.6398

>>6381

>Doesn't Germania by Tacitus say that the Germans only let a woman, who cut a branch off a fruit bearing tree and carved the runes for a one-time use and laid them on a linen cloth do rune divination?

Negative. Tacitus uses the words sacerdos and paterfamiliae to describe the people who conducted the divination – the sacerdos in public and the paterfamiliae in private. "Sacerdos" can be either a masculine or feminine noun, but "paterfamiliae" refers unambiguously to a man, literally "the father of the family".

My Latin is pretty shitty, so the passage is here if you want to double-check:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/g01010.htm


 No.6399

>>6398

(Also I want to point out here that his word we tend to read as referring to runes is notis which refers generically to markings on the wood chips. Latin had words for letters, but he didn't use one of them. This doesn't mean that they were not runes, but merely that we don't know what kind of markings he was describing.)




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