/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

>>6106

I live in NM were no one gives a fuck and are pretty ignorant to symbols outside of a swastika. Also I am not saying is in safe in "how will others react". Saying is it safe because some rune can be fickle and should not be tattooed or something. Was wondering if Algiz is one of them?

>>6108

Algiz is a pretty safe rune for tattoos or jewelry. I'd advise against the tattooing the Valknut though, as it is practically marking you for death. Traditionally it means that you give your soul to Odin for him to do with it as he pleases. It is the same as American soldiers signing their contracts to die for Israel, although dying for the old gods is much more preferable.

NM is pretty great if you stay away from the undesirables. I wear my mjolnir around town quite often, and I actually get compliments from the occasional country-folk. Good luck finding any folk Asatru here that you didn't "convert" yourself, though.

Are you sure about that m8?

There are strong suggestions that it might have been practice to pledge some children to Wotan before there were even born. I guess others also made this decision for themselves. Afaik we don't know what the really Valknut implies, so I'd personally be hesitant.

What is known about Algiz? From what I read just now, there also could be a connection to Wotan through the elk? That might be a stretch though.

>>6106

Yeah I live in Commiefornia and I'm putting off my rune tattoos because I know the degenerates wont like it, and the niggers. They think any moderately white symbol is a Nazi symbol.

>>6111

> strong suggestions that it might have been practice to pledge some children to Wotan before there were even born

As much as I would like to believe please give source.

Also from what I have observed the Valknut comes in two forms, the closed or tightened form and the open or loose form. Along with playing into its name as the val-knot, which btw "val" means "the slain", Valhalla, Valfather, etc are all high indicators of something related to the cult of Odin. Not to mention that almost all depictions of a Valknut on runestones are next to scenes related to Odinnic myth; horses, warriors, blood eagles, or even depictions of Odin himself on Sleipnir.

As far as the exact meaning of the Valknot, we know from the Sagas the Odin was known to have the power to "bind" or "let loose" his chosen. Those that were bound lost their ability to fight in battle while those that were loosened became mad and slipped into the beserkergang. And when a warrior died, it was custom to carve a valknot on his chest so that the valkryies would favor him.

The Valknot has very heavy connections to Odin and may be the best symbol to use for Odin/Wotan/Woden, however I agree with the other poster, the Valknot is not a symbol to be taken lightly. Unless you plan to die in race in the next couple of wars, I would strongly recommend against getting it, because the Valknot is a violent and powerful symbol.

I might get one at some point but I'm not sure, I would only get one if I somehow became a warrior. Getting one marked on your flesh is saying to Odin "I want to die a violent death" because that is the best way to Valhall.

>>6120

Probably shouldn't have said "strong", but the suggestions are still there. My source is a Lexicon about "fairy tales" (I don't like that word) involving some sort of wizardry. The one I use was collected by the brothers Grimm. It's called "Die beiden Königskinder", which roughly means "The two kings' children":

I actually found a translated version here:

http://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/the_two_kings_children

Basically is has been foretold to a king that his son will killed by a stag at the age of 16. When the son was at age he went on a hunt(!) and somehow departed form the others and encountered a stag. He tried to kill it and failed, so he followed it until the forest ended. Suddenly a great, tall man(!) was standing in-front of him. The son es being captured and brought to a great castle(!) where he dines with the man. It also turns out that the man has daughters.

There is more to it, I suggest you read it. The payment being withheld and the resulting escape of son and one daughter after the son (actually the daughter) built a great castle for the wizard, the son forgetting due the influence of a third person about his betrothed and being betrothed to another girl are interesting too.

Anyway, the author of the lexicon suggest that the promising of the child is missing from the tale and the "It is well that I have thee. I have already ruined six pairs of glass skates with running after thee, and have not been able to get thee." being a suggestion for that..

>>6110

I live in ABQ and found plenty of asatruars and celtic pagans (not wiccans). Seems like a lot of white people here are more in touch with their roots than places like Illinois (where I am from) where most whites act like niggers or bible-thumping hillbillies.

I even found a kindred here and plan on going to my first meeting on the 12th.

You know what'd be cool? A pair of ravens. One on each shoulder blade or something. Presuming tattoos were cool, of course.

>>6132

Have fun.

>>6132

I am genuinely surprised. I didn't know that there were that many non-wiccan pagans in ABQ. Then again I live in RR, so we get all the rich wiccan retards around here.

>>6147

I could see why though. Rio Rancho is almost as bad as Santa Fe with white wiccans.

I have 3 friends who are Celtic pagans and have a few asatru friends/ acquaintances. There is a group here called "Keepers of the Seasons' Hall" they meet at Frontier every 2nd sunday of the month (next meeting is July 12th). I plan on going.

>>6148

I think I'll have to check that out sometime, thanks.

Anyone know of any cool designs of the Algiz rune? One that is not overly complicated just do not want an just ordinary one. Or any drawfags willing to draw one up?

>>6378

If you give me a little more to go on I can draw something up.

>>6415

I was thinking about having knotwork in there.

>>6412

I kek'd

>>6412

Dude that is nice.

>>6116

For real though, that Irminsul design is very cool. Not wholly related to this thread (or maybe it is, discussing the term might help Bloodaxe decide about whether it's a tatto possibility or not) but how do you people generally feel about the Irminsul? Asatru is a north Germanic term but I guess that doesn't limit the scope to north Germanic spirituality only, but despite this, Norse spirituality seems to be the go-to for most. Do most of you people take a kind of pan-Germanic view on things, or do you feel that the Irminsul is "only for Saxons/people who focus on west Germanic practices", whether that's a hard rule or not?

>>6424

Also to the Valknut discussion - I have heard the same, that it's not a symbol to be thrown around lightly. Perhaps you feel it just indicates devotion to Odin, perhaps you think it confers his blessing regarding the binding/unbinding the mind, perhaps you think it marks you as willing to die and become an Einherjar, that's upto you - just ensure you're comfortable with the interpretation of the symbol you take. Also, this is pretty "a friend said he read somewhere…" material, but a friend said he read somewhere that if you get a Valknut tattoo, you should get it on the chest or somewhere "solid", not on an arm or whatever, because supposedly it's where Odin will stick you with his spear if you are slain in battle, and obviously you've got a better chance of making it to Valhalla if he's got you skewered somewhere thoroughly, rather than just through the arm leaving you dangling. That sounds kind of dumb though because Odin doesn't take the slain - the Valkyries take them, then Freya picks half, then Odin gets the remaining half, so make of the above idea what you will.

>>6425

If I was to get a valknut I said I was going to get it on the left of my chest near my heart,. Algiz I was going to get on my left upper arm (between my elbow and shoulder).

>>6424

I think Asatru takes information from whatever it can so you already have a mixture between Norse and German beliefs. I prefer the Norse terms for things like like the gods and stuff but that is because it was more familiar with me before I go into Asatru anyway.

And the Irminsul is definitely a future tattoo possibility. Its just lately I have been resonating with Algiz a lot even seeing it in dreams.

>>6424

I usually take a pretty Pan-Germanic worldview for two main reasons

1. I'm highly mixed and have the blood of many Germanic tribes within me, the only Germanic blood I don't have is East Germanic or North Germanic.

2. Because the Germanic religion is so fragmentary I think it is worth taking whatever scraps we can to paint a more cohesive picture. I still believe tribal identities are important however and one should try to find what tribes he comes from and how they practiced their religion.

I think the Irminsul is mostly a Saxon symbol but now it is a suitable symbol for the whole Germanic faith. It's name means "Great/arising pillar", this can be taken to represent how the Germanic faith, despite being burned and chopped down, will always grow back mighty and powerful.

>>6423

>I was thinking about having knotwork in there.

A tattoo artist who does knotwork is going to come up with something better than I am, so I don't think I have anything to offer here.