/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

The fucking comments are unbearable how can people be so fucking brainwashed?

>>6559

Support the AFA they are against this sort of degenercy. By AFA shirts, books, decals, etc. Tell our Asapope Mcnallen you love him. This goes a long way.

What can one folkish heathen do against such rampant degeneracy?

>>6560

>need mo money for dem programs

Mcnallen pls

>>6559

>send us on the road of the catholics

You mean we're going to conquer the world and convert most of Europe to Paganism after a bloody purge of atheists and kebabs?

sounds fine to me

>>6563

That's a desireable outcome by all means, but we need to realize that a centralized power can equal corruption.

>>6564

The Germanics had a pretty good system for centralized power

They would elect a king and give him unlimited war powers, but if they deemed that he was abusing these powers they would exile or kill him.

We should do the same, have a single centralized command structure but have it heavily watched. At the slightest sign of corruption or betraying the people, they are hanged.

Talking about religious wars as if it was viable option, gg.

From the article "Anyone can practise heathen Asatru":

>anyone can practise ásatrú, regardless of their nationality or residence…The ásatrú faith is based on tolerance

Yes, show me where in the Hamaval or Eddas it says that we are a religion based on tolerance or that all races are allowed.

Considering that these people are supposed to be the flagship Asatruars they certainly don't know a whole lot

On FB I was following a group called "Pagans United" until today where they sided with Hilmar and his fag agenda. I told them off and am unfollowing them. Avoid them they once were recommended by the AFA but I doubt they will still advertise their bullshit. Avoid at all costs. No wonder though since the page is ran by a woman.

>>6588

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=851439508276492&id=601474779939634&comment_id=851454698274973&ref=notif&notif_t=like

This is the group I am referring to…

http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/icelandic-pagan-association-high-priest-moved-outpouring-international-support

Amber if you are here you are pretty fucking based.

Also bros I am trying to fight the good fight hope yall will join me. All these faggot commentors need to be put straight.

>>6556

>I'm Islandic, it's my religion so I'm an authority.

>Everyone can worship, regardless of race or nationality.

>White men worshiping my (and their own) gods in non-liberal ways, ban them.

What is logic and consistency for these people?

>>6605

I don't fucking know. Its the new cult of Political Correctness trying to force-feed all religions, cultures, etc their propaganda except Islam because that would be racist to tell Muslims to stop being assholes.

>>6609

And I got banned from commenting. Fuck Iceland

>>6591

>Amber if you are here

She'll deny it, but Amber Clausson = Seana Fenner. I don't know why she does it (my guess is she thinks more people will become Odinists if they see pretty blond girls), but it makes her look a lot less credible

>>6619

Idunno, googling her name turns up some pretty suspicious shit about her past

>>6619

I had that suspicion as well when "both" added me on ZOGbook. She does seem kind of sketchy

>>6620

Like what? I know she was on here a few months ago e-begging for laptop money. It would have been one thing if she'd owned up to the fact it was her, but she made like it was someone else trying to promote her gofundme or whatever it was.

>>6632

Lolz really?

>>6637

see

>>4371

>>6638

That is pretty funny. Was not aware of this shit but am definitely skeptical now and suspicious.

>>6605

What I really hate about this and this Scandinavian centric mentally when it comes to the heathen faith is that they think they invented it when we can trace its roots to PIE. And it was pretty much a Germanic religion which was found in pretty much all Germanic cultures even the peoples who later became Slavs. So him telling me that because I am German and not Icelandic that I cannot be an authority or even a legitimate practitioner of Asatru is pretty fucking retarded.

And everyone in the comments keep mentioning the Eddas as if it is the only thing they have read. Which is not surprising considering how ignorant they are on the subject. Furthermore I had some retard reply to my Havamal quote saying "Don't quote the Havamal like the bible dude". So by that comment alone we can tell that they do not even take their own faith seriously (note the quote in context was not in a way that could be misconstrued as if some christian was quoting the bible).

I would not doubt either that all that Icelander's stories he grew up with about the Gods and such (that makes him an authority on the subject) was probably Wiccatru-tier shit. Considering how Iceland is socialist as fuck and all up the progressive SJW bullshit.

I bet Hilmar could not even get a permit to preach or practice if he did not agree to marry homos.

Also that Icelander cuck talked shit about Mcnallen and Varg totally disregarding anything they have to say.

>>6652

Off-topic, sort of, but did you ever check out that ABQ Asatru group? Are they degenerate or decent?

watch out wiccatru is writing it's own books now (editing however is another story)

http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/04/anti-racism-vs-neo-paganism/

>>6674

Was going to but did not have the day off. The website though makes it sound like they are a bit universalist and I think one of the members said he studied under Hilmar. Still plan on checking them out though will let you know.

>>6674

"Keeper of Seasons Hall meets for religious and social purposes only. The hall will not accept members who promote discrimination, intolerance, or hatred on the bases of age, color, ethnicity, gender, language, national origin, race, sexual orientation, or any other divisive criteria.

Ásatrú as defined by KoSH is open to everyone and welcomes any who honestly express a desire to join. Anyone willing to enculturate himself or herself within Ásatrú and to abide by and exemplify the values learned thereby is not only welcome, but also encouraged to seek membership with KoSH."

From their website so yeah they are universalist.

>>6701

They also have insane rules like "If you miss more than 2 consecutive meetings you are kicked from being a member" and you have to be sponsored and shit by an existing member in order to become a member. Pretty fucking stupid considering. More like an Wiccatru cult than an actual religious group.

were our pagan ancestors racist and anti-gay?

And just because they were, does that mean we should be too? Just thinking about this logically, they didn't have a divine or absolute moral code, they just did what they "felt" was right…they weren't infallible.

Just cause your grandparents think something is good, doesn't mean it is. Really think about it

>>7310

Being a homosexual was almost universally amongst cultures bad. Know in modern society I do not give a fuck if you are gay just do not demand the right to have an Asatru or Christian priest to marry you faggots. Marriage was supposed to be for something other than sex. It was 70% about uniting tribes or clans. 25% percent about procreation and 5% about love. The three things fags know nothing about or can accomplish. The main reason a tribe or clan can be united is through a common heir.

Fags just get married for tax reasons and thats it. If tax breaks for married couples weren't a thing then fags would not care about marriage. Instead they would fuck whomever they want whenever they want and be content with that.

And race I agree that niggers, jews, etc should not be allowed to practice asatru because they are so far from the Germanic bloodline they might as well be from another planet. They do not understand because they do not have blood memory or legacy. Even ashkenazi jews despite havng some germanic in them should not practice because they care more for money than they do legacy. They do not care about their ancestors. All that matters to them is their Holocaust and Bar Mitzvahs. Besides being a jew is more lucrative to them then being an Odin/Ancestor worshiping pagan.

>>7321

> It was 70% about uniting tribes or clans.

We don't live in tribes and clans anymore

So obviously our customs will be different

>>7322

>Implying modern customs are in the right

>>7322

>it's LITERALLY 2015!

>why are you asking me why I've just said this in an argument?

>it's 2015 and you ACTUALLY believe this, LOL!

>why are you again asking me why I'm referencing this date that you say is irrelevant to the argument and in fact not even related in any way

>OMG you are so ignorant! it's 2015 jesus bigot

what people need to understand is paganism is an expression of the ethnicity, paganism is a dumb word, a better term would be 'ethno-spiritualism/faith' because that's just what it is. germanic gods are the expression of germanic race soul and culture, hellenic gods likewise for the greeks/latins, Mesopotamian, Shinto Japanese etc etc

before monotheism every ethnicity lived in harmony with other peoples' "paganism" i.e ethno faiths, everyone respected eachothers' gods because it was spiritualism, not religion. it's also a form of ancestor worship, and therefore attached to the fact it is ethnic + cultural it makes no sense for a nigger whose ancestors are not linked to that ethnicity/culture's roots to mimic it, and vice versa if a whitey landed in the congo and just started saying they worship their tribal gods, it's really really retarded

but of course wicca-tier people who say 'times change' have no historical perspective or context - they project their inherited judeo-monotheistic universalism from their politics and demand that ethno-faiths cow-tow to their sensibilities, ethno-faiths are for everyone, but everyone has their own ethnicity and therefore their own different gods

how hard is this to understand

>>6556

what is you guys' deal with the icelandic asatruans?

[spoiler] i'm still a newfag on this board and i want to visit iceland someday with one of the reasons being the temple [/spoiler

>>6559

an american althing?

>>6571

well maybe this attitude made christianity and other strains of judaism so succesful

>>6571

This is what gives christtards on /pol/ their fuel!

>tolerance and respect for human rights

If this isn't a wake up call to racial socialists, I don't know what will be. This is the great flaw of our people and what lead to our deaths in Sogdia and Tocharia, and now in our own homeland of Europe.

>>7389

Kiketianity produces more of this in a single day than there has been produced in an eternity of Asatru. I'm thinking of the "Catholics discuss keeping a cuck baby" screenshot in particular.