No.7193
People who can't be Pagan-Asatru by default:
>Obese people
>Mudpeople / shitskins
>People who can't speak a European language besides English
>People whose parents/grandparents weren't born in Europe
>Atheists
>virgins over 25 (unless they are practicing Druids and celibate for life)
what else?
No.7194
No.7199
>>7194
rude. I didn't make fun of you
No.7200
>Obese people
Why. Obviously they're degenerates, but what stops them from being pagans. If they lose the weight, do you still think they can't be Asatruars?
>Mudpeople / shitskins
No disagreement there.
>People who can't speak a European language besides English
Why
>People whose parents/grandparents weren't born in Europe
Why
>Atheists
If they change their beliefs, are they still banned?
That one atheist who was spamming can get fuckd
>virgins over 25 (unless they are practicing Druids and celibate for life)
Why
You've essentially given a list, but you've given no reasons to back up your list. Mudskins and niggers have no place because of their lack of ancestry, but you've thrown out all these traits without any reasons why. Why can't a 25 year-old virgin be an Asatruar? Why can't a person whose parents/grandparents weren't born in Europe be an Asatruar? Back up your points.
With all the top-quality posts around here, I can see a bright future for this board
No.7202
gr8 b8 m8 10/10 :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
No.7204
>>7200
I thought the list was self-explanatory.
>fatties
they can become pagan if they stop being degenerate/lazy/fat
the rest is obvious.
The only exception is people from the UK, they already know their mother-tongue, english, its their language. but if your ancestors are german, or italian or whatever you should speak that language, it's yours.
If you can't speak your blood language, you've lost your roots.
>>7202
here's your response
No.7205
>>7193
great list let's add idiots too sorry OP seems you're out :(
No.7208
>>7204
No its not. You threw out a bunch of traits in an "I'm a better Asatruar than you" spree without backing them up.
>You've lost your roots
Based on your criteria and personal opinion. If a person cannot speak their "blood language" but still celebrate holidays in their traditional cultural style, if they travel to their country of origin, if they study the history of that country, have they lost their roots? By your logic, they have. It's a good thing you aren't the one in charge.
>People who can't be Asatruars by default
Who gave you the authority to make the rules? The only requirement that we can explain with ironclad logic is being of Northern European ancestry. If you're a fucking fatass lefty then you deserve to be shamed and shown the error of your ways; tumblr degeneracy should be solved with an exile from the group. Hell, I could tenuously tolerate a lefty practicing Asatru so long as they don't use our religion to push their politics or inject their politics into our religion (a very rare case, but not unheard of). But if you throw around all these random requirements you will attract people who aren't interested in the religion itself, but who want a seekrit klub to belong to because they can fit the requirements and can play holier-than-thou.
mods, it looks like you missed one of the spamming trolls
No.7209
>>7193
>virgins over 25
more like
>people who have sex outside of marriage
You wiccatru faggot.
No.7213
>>7204
Alright, I'll bite
>Obese people
If an obese person has the desire to stop being obese, than they're pagan. As Latsbrah pointed out, how can you be pagan if you don't even lift (or exercise/take care of yourself)
>Mudpeople / shitskins
No arguement
>People who can't speak a European language besides English
Learning more about one's culture is encouraged, but doesn't define whether someone is Pagan or not
>People whose parents/grandparents weren't born in Europe
No. They still have European heritage
>Atheists
Okay….
>virgins over 25
The Wizard stage is at 30.
No.7215
No.7229
>>7208
>if a person performs empty gestures and can't speak their blood language have they lost their roots?
Yes.
>Who gave you the authority to make the rules?
True by definition, not authority.
Words have meaning you know.
No.7230
>>7213
>desiring is enough
>muh self-identity is what matters
No it's not. Just like a man desiring to be a woman isn't turned into a woman by his desire alone.
>Learning more about one's culture is encouraged
If you don't know your blood language you aren't pagan yet.
>They still have European heritage
Too hard to tell. If you, your parents and grandparents weren't born in Europe, it's all hearsay. tbh.
>The Wizard stage is at 30.
In Japan maybe. Here if you're over 25 it's pretty much over and you've given up on life.
No.7231
No.7233
>>7230
>European heritage outside of Europe is based on hearsay
are you mentally challenged or something? Its pretty easy to tell if someone is germanic/celtic
HINT: WHITE SKIN
also maybe you're too lazy to do genetic research but I can trace my families origin to the exact regions of England and Germany that they come from. There are immigration records you stupid ape
No.7234
>>7233
>race is just skin tone
2/10
gtfo
No.7235
>>7234
>skin tone is a social construct
>Africans can be white y'know
unless you're talking about albino Africans it southern Europeans with a darker complexion you're still fucking retarded. Show me a German with skin darker than an Italian plz.
No.7238
>>7235
>skin color = race
lol. stop.
plenty of asians have a white skin-tone,
doesn't mean they are Caucasian.
No.7241
>>7209
>be odin
>be wanderin' around, gettin' all kinds of pussy
>impregnating bitches left and right, frigg, fjörgyn, rindr, griðr…
>implying i give a shit about your "sex outside of marriage" christcuck bullshit
>mfw
No.7242
>>7241
Sex outside of marriage is degenerate
No.7243
>>7242
say that to my face fucker, not online, and see if i let you into valhalla!
No.7251
>>7242
Wrong place chump
Go to >>>/christian/ for that shit
Vikings do as we please, we take what we want, your moral bullshit has no effect here. Might makes right
Stop Christianizing Paganism. Fuck
No.7256
>>7251
>Vikings do as we please!
>if I want to fuck men in the butt its because I am le strong Viking xDD
>Vikings were the only pagans
>being this hedonist
you are the reason Christians mock us
did you forget that the Germanic tribes, long before the Vikings, practiced strict monogamy and only the noblemen had multiple wives, usually out of necessity more than lust?
you're the one who wants to be a mor(m)on
No.7257
>>7251
>calling morality bullshit
this is paganism not Satanism you edgy idiot. Of course paganism has morals and some of them line up with Christianity, this is the reason many pagans converted willingly.
you sound like a newcomer here. Go read the poetic edda and study the havamal until its committed to memory. Then you'll get your fucking moral bullshit
No.7260
>>7257
>>7256
No morals or commandments. You can do as you please and your actions have no supernatural consequences.
Prove me wrong, quote me the Pagan Bible where Odin declares morals and consequences for sins. Oh wait there is no such thing
>poetic edda, hamaval
Just like historical analysis, those things are irrelevant. At most they might express the spirit of the time, the customs and practical advice humans made up. Nothing divine or moral in nature at all.
No.7264
>>7260
>no supernatural consequences.
Doesn't matter. It is degenerate. There are scientific reasons for why polygamy is unhealthy.
>>7251
I'm Slavic, I don't give a shit about le Vikings XDDD. Also, the Vikings were the Norse Seamen (don't make a joke) who plundered France and The Holy Roman Empire when Constantine invaded Denmark. They were plundering villages because they were at war. Not all Medieval Norsemen were Vikings.
But I think you already knew that, since this whole thread is bait.
No.7265
>>7260
>Just like historical analysis, those things are irrelevant. At most they might express the spirit of the time, the customs and practical advice humans made up. Nothing divine or moral in nature at all.
With that mentality, any evidence we present to you is futile.
We could bring up the implied moral of the misery and endless cycle of violence caused by greed in the Volsunga Saga, which began in the first place by the gods testing humans with cursed gold.
We could bring up Odin punishing King Geirrod for inhospitality.
We could bring up the tale of the ancient goddess Frau Holle punishing a lazy girl with by covering her with pitch, and rewarding an industrious girl by covering her with gold.
We could bring up the fact that there are dozens, even hundreds similarly spirited folktales throughout European heathen and pagan cultures that deal with divine rewards and punishments bestowed upon humans by numinous beings; such tales being direct reflections of a cultures' perception of how nature and the supernatural work.
Even if you try to fire back with "But they're just made up!", it doesn't matter. These tales informed how pagans behaved and conducted themselves. They did not just "do as they pleased" as you imply.
But all of this doesn't matter anyway since you're just going to come up with another bullshit rationalization to keep this thread going since you're a troll.
No.7266
>>7260
>the poetic edda and havamal dont mean anything to Germanic paganism
HAHAHAHA good one m8 you almost rustled my jimmies
I think the atheist is back you guys, now he's trying to be pagan
how cute
seriously though, if you think the ancient sources on paganism are irrelevant to paganism why are you even pagan? You might as well be Wiccan or a hippie. How do you know anything about paganism without historical analysis? Then again, you're proving that you don't
we've been getting alot of idiots around here lately
No.7288
>>7251
I bet you started Asatru because you just want an excuse to not act Christian, take that shit to >>>/atheist/ or >>>/satan/.
One look into Tacitus' Germania or the Havamel will show you that there is strict morality to abide by.
The "need" to lose your virginity is a stupid and superficial concept pushed onto us by modern media. Being a male virgin is nothing to be ashamed of. If you should desire to do anything, it's find a loving spouse to raise children with, not some bitch to fuck for one night and then throw away.
No.7302
>>7288
a lot of these neo-pagans on /asatru/ are expecting Paganism to be like Christianity but with Vikings. It's really nothing like it, all this talk of morals and degeneracy is a new phenomena
No.7835
I'm of Scottish and German ancestry, but I speak Spanish as a second language. Does that count for your Euro language requirement?
No.7841
>>7302
If we're rebelling against the modern world, we need to rebel against the degeneracy and expectations the media has put forth for us.
No.7843
>>7835
english is a european language
No.7846
>>7843
OP specified English didn't count for his arbitrary rules.
>>People who can't speak a European language besides English
No.7848
>>7302
>Paganism to be like Christianity
That's probably because a lot of Christian morality and traditions are from pagan sources.
>morals and degeneracy is a new phenomena
You are a god damn nigger.
Morals, degeneracy are all parts of pagan life.
Half, if not more, of the myths and sagas are morality stories.
No.7875
People with brown eyes can't be pagans.
No.7876
>>7875
kek
not everywhere is scandinavia man, and even there not everyone has blond hair and blue eyes.
t. 100% irish but brown haired and brown eyed. I suppose i shouldnt be a gaelic pagan :^)
No.7877
>>7875
Why is that? Brown eyed is not associated with non-whites. Most non-whites have literal black eyes. Pics related
No.7878
>>7876
Another example of "black eye color".
No.7880
>>7875
>being this jealous of the brown eye masterrace
No.7893
>>7204
My blood language is dead, m8 :^) Guess that counts me out, huh?
No.7898
>>7893
>>7893
whats your ethnicity? If you're scottish, welsh, irish or breton, stop making excuses. Your language is alive, go and learn it.
No.7919
No.8065
>Obese people
According to BMI? If so, does that include most top rugby players? If according to bodyfat%, why can people not allow faith to be motivation for improving their fitness?
>People who can't speak a European language besides English
What if they are themselves actually English? Not everyone in the world speaks this language because it's "the language to speak", m80. Some of us were born in England to parents who were born in England to parents who were… etc.
>People whose parents/grandparents weren't born in Europe
Could the descendants of Norse settlers in Greenland and Vinland not keep their religion? Why does living in America, Australia, South Africa, etc remove people's ethnicity?
>virgins over 25
Why?
>>7898
Not him, but assuming it's a Germanic ethnicity - maybe he means Gothic? I don't know how one goes about claiming Gothic ancestry, but hey. If it's a Celtic language he means, it could be Iberian Celtic. As far as I know, very little is known of pre-Roman Iberian culture/language.
No.8176
>>7264
> plundered France and The Holy Roman Empire when Constantine invaded Denmark
>implying romans ever got past the rhine
>implying france and HRE were already seperated back then
>implying only danes were vikings
>implying a war lasted from +- 750 to +- 1100
holy shit man are you making this up as you are writing or something? what are your sources on vikings? i guess you are not as interested in vikings as some people but that does not mean you can still make shit up
No.8177
>>7238
rosa kato is half italian, probably whiter than some of the nigs and spics you see at degen cricles
No.8178
No.8187
>>8178
well that is a bit less retarded, but still they practically raided all of europe and there are theories that they even went to the canarian islands. i bet you've got some viking blood somewhere in your veins.
No.8213
>>7265
>frau holle
was that an ancient goddess? i thought it was a story by the grim brothers or some other fable, her name just means miss holle in german, and in the dutch version her name is mevrouw holle, also miss holle
No.8214
>>8213
it's theorized she was on older germanic entity that the Brothers used
No.8215
>>8213
>>8213
Yeah well she's a mythological being, kinda like fairies or giants or dragons
Not directly part of the germanic pantheon but a part of the lifeforms that inhabit Yggdrasil itself so to speak
http://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Frau_Holle
No.8217
Also, the Urglaawe guys (who are unfortunately cucked anti-racist wiccan SJW's for the most part) are worshipping her as a godess if i recall correctly.
No.8218
>being this obsessed over materialistic traits
this is why you're not taken seriously as a religion
No.8223
>>8218
>not having the reading comprehension to see everyone disagreeing with him because hes an obvious troll
>probably another christian troll
>a christian troll pointing out a christian troll to tell us how dumb we pagans are
No.8418
>>7204
I can speak my blood language. It's called English. Now, why does it matter where my most recent ancestors were born if my blood is from Europe?
No.8419
>>7230
Genetic testing, dumbass.
No.8420
>>7241
There are gods other than Odin.
No.8421
>>7251
Morality was practiced by our ancestors, though it was different from that of the Christians.