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abd873 No.10482

Let's start a thread where we talk about dreams. I've been discussing them with Christians who think demons can paralyze you, possess you, and torment you in your sleep. Sort of like the ridiculous villains called "nightmares" from Dream Eater Merry I guess.

https://8ch.net/christ/res/4470.html#q5647

To start off, has anyone had religious dreams? Messages in the bible have sprung from interpretations of dreams so it should be an important topic for the religious.

The premises we believe greatly affect our dreams - I used to frequently have Christian themed nightmares of armageddon and hell, and I would be confronted by the devil/a demon, and I'd pray feverently for God to come down from the clouds and protect me. I had dreams where I was just as terrified he would judge me and send me to hell. Of course, I'd probably have dreamt about monsters anyway, but as a Christian Many of the monsters become demon themed.

Dreams are rich in symbols and emotions, and I used to keep a dream journal and spend time trying to figure out 1) whether God was giving me a message or an omen - a future dream. 2) whether my subconscious was trying to tell me something.

When I grew older the childhood monsters mostly went away as the dreams became more grounded, and since I'm an Atheist, I'd be lucky to remember having a dream with Christian imagery in a year. Most of my dreams today instead are harmless, and involve returning to places I've been. Sometimes they're even populated with characters from a framework I use for story writing, i.e. my "inner universe." The very best dreams are when I get to act as one of the characters from one of my favorite stories, especially in a lucid dream, which fuels reflection and idea making when I wake up.

Video is from an original Japanese indy game titled yume nikki/dream diary.

ff48ab No.10485

>>10482

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

>2015

>still blaming deamons for normal things


9aacda No.10490

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>>10482

>That thread

Why do Christians even pretend to be deep intellectuals jesus fuck stop it


9a124b No.10491

>>10485

Looks like the argument in /christ/ is that just because something is explainable through naturalistic means you cannot rule out a metaphysical cause. Basically a variation on the "You can't prove that it doesn't exist!" argument.

I can't prove that invisible faeries aren't ultimately responsible for gravity. They certainly aren't needed to explain it though.


abd873 No.10493

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>>10491

What is funny is I just woke up from a dream on that theme where a moustached guy wearing a cape said he was going to do a miracle and instantly teleport himself across the country (implied to Switzerland). He asked someone to take a pill as a sign of faith, and when the person woke up he had been instantaneously transported there, which would have taken several hours by car and walking. He then said his mystical ability needed to recharge, but he was willing to repeat the demonstration with his "hidden physics machine", but first they needed to go to a train station to do it. After arriving at the train station and choosing a destination, the dream fast-forwards 17 hours and when the person wakes up to a setting sun they've been transported entirely in the opposite direction, and the charlatan grins as if to say isn't my technique amazing? The dream was actually making fun of the idea that time dilation is a real thing in dreams.


4cd73f No.10497

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>tfw you dream about totally mundane slice of life shit that could plausibly happen

I wish I could into lucid dreaming.


21ed7f No.10500

>>10491

When christians come into the argument, everything goes to shit. On /pol/, someone called them out and jesus shills shilled the thread until the mods fucked with it and killed the thread.


5c568e No.10516

>>10497

I've been trying to lucid dream.


900142 No.10519

>>10497

>>10516

>tfw i lucid dream almost every night


168c92 No.10544

>>10497

I tried lucid dreaming, but I find that once I take control of the dream I just don't feel it anymore, because I realize it's not real.


900142 No.10546

>>10500

/pol/ christfags are the worst. Even /christian/ hates them.


5c568e No.10551

>>10546

They're like the 8chan version of /r/atheism.


08032a No.10552

>>10497

>tfw you dream about totally mundane slice of life shit that could plausibly happen

Wouldn't your own life technically be a 3D version of slice of life? Albeit a more realistic (i.e. less happy).




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