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3a204d No.10804

>theistic robots

Why god why?

13cb34 No.10805

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Oh my God.


3a204d No.10807

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>>10805

I fucking love Rick, he's practically my ideal self.


2520b7 No.10811

Well, if you program them to be obedient to a god, then they will be.


82df90 No.10812

I just marathoned the first season of Rick and Morty because of this thread without knowing this series beforehand.


3a204d No.10815

>>10812

Check out season 2, S02E05 is relevant to the topic of this board.


3a204d No.10816

>>10811

If I remember BSG lore, and it's been a while since I've seen it, Cyclons weren't programmed to specifically believe in anything. But it's scifi anywho, the thing is though given how AI is programmed with learning algos it's plausible, given a certain level of complexity, they may lead themselves to believing in nonsense. There are a lot of mistakes in the process of machine learning, it's practically trial and error. The thing though is it's supposed to reduce the error with increased iterations of attempts. The thing is if it doesn't catch the mistake and proceeds. Idk this is barely speculative. But yeah machines can be wrong.


185890 No.10825

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>>10805

They went for the good old "no atheist in foxholes" in the first episode of season two though…


4d0205 No.10829

>>10825

I've met a lot more atheists since being in the military than before. Purely my own subjective experience, but still…


314a5b No.11451

>>10805

>>10807

Holy shit this is fucking great. I never even heard of it. Thank you so much for this.


ad2d98 No.11452

>>10804

are you a blaspheming unbeliever in the old machines?


13cb34 No.11453

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>>10816

Couldn't get into the remake, or any post 9-11 show that replaces the intrigue of fighting a natiom-state with fighting Terrorism/a couple of cartoon villains, manifested in a dumbed down good vs evil theme. Modern sci-fi is being infiltrated with Theistic themes.

The final episode had a ridiculous premise concerning our origins, which isn't supported by evolution. But even the premise, that humanity was nearly destroyed because they had completely networked computers that even though they knew they might have to fight against an AI is stupid. If humanity enables a command structure that only takes one contact point to disable an entire fleet's computer system, the robots are right about humanity being too stupid to live. (Video unrelated.)


000000 No.11470

Forgive my faggotry, /atheism/. I tried doing this in an independent thread, but got denied because I can't start threads here while using TOR.

How many of you have had experience with mental issues, /atheism/? I'm posting here because I can't think of any other place on the internet that I can go without having everything I post logged and fed into an advertising system, and you all seem like level-headed, intelligent people. Forgive me for being offtopic, but I sure as shit ain't sharing this with the likes of /b/ and I can't think of any other board with people who aren't assholes.

Growing up, I had a pretty acute set of mental symptoms; I would stave off social contact as much as possible and lived out life in a fantasy world. I had imaginary girlfriends and imaginary friends in a world that I controlled, but in the real world I was incredibly socially awkward and could not function as a normal person socially. I couldn't talk to people and my mom, thinking that all I had was ADHD, proceded to drug me out of my mind with Ritalin, thanks to a doctor that just took everything at her word. I also exhibited OCD-like symptoms such as mumbling "SHIT! GOD FORGIVE ME! SHIT! GOD FORGIVE ME!" over and over in my head, as well as thinking that my parents could read my thoughts if they were touching me, especially on my head.

I knew that what was going on in me wasn't normal, but it got really bad during puberty. I began having delusions that all sorts of fucked up things were true that weren't. For instance, I got it stuck in my head that the Yeerks from Animorphs were real and that my parents had them in their heads. I lived in fear from about 13-14 that they were being controlled by aliens. Later, religion started to play a part in it; I would get by myself and think that The Rapture had happened, terrified that I was going to hell and would come home running to my parents, crying out of fear. I also found myself terrified of thinking that I was the antichrist and would find myself staring at my hand and a scar on my forehead, making out patterns that I was convinced were the mark of the beast.

The worst part about all of this was that I knew that I was crazy, and I fought it every single day. Eventually, I won. It took years, but at 15 I had a girlfriend and by 16, I'd managed to develop a circle of friends and was on my fifth girlfriend. Now in my mid 20's, this all seems like a distant, echoing memory of a guy I knew once, a guy that doesn't exist any more. Still, I know that I am the same person who thought all of these fucked up things. It's terrifying that I was like that then, but I'm nothing like that now. My wife, who knew me back then, as well as my parents talk about how different I am, how it's like I'm a different person. Thing is, I never told them about it. I can't imagine what they'd do or say now if I told them how I was. My blanket of secrecy has never been lifted before and I can't help but to think that I'm not all that rare, that there may be a lot more people out there like me.


5abad6 No.11471

>>11470

So forget about it. Everyone did stupid shit at that age. It's not important.

also >>>/mental/


c42815 No.11496

>>10825

>>10829

IIRC it's actually been studied and more people become atheists after being in the military than the other way around. I don't think atheists tend to join the military though.

>>11470

Gonna second this >>11471 /mental/ is a good board.

All of that sounds completely expected for someone who had very little social contact. It's like how an isolated group of people are given to developing cults and all kind of insane beliefs, but with an individual.


13cb34 No.11497

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>>11470

I still have a magical imaginary girlfriend I wrote about when I was 18. In the next three years I wrote a hundred pages of a self-insert going on fantasy adventures with her. I'm no longer actively write about her, but I can still fap quickly to a tweaked version of her. I consider it a tool that's worth preserving. Thinking about her and her universe has yielded inportant insights in the real world: she was written as a cynical anti-hero that needed to be saved, so it was natural to make her an Atheist. The more I thought about her views to write better dialog, the more her views began to made sense though.

Since my story is unpublished and originally paralleled my reality, it feels an alternate universe that only exists within my head. Since you've lived a meta life in a multi-verse, this book might interest you:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard-Boiled_Wonderland_and_the_End_of_the_World

>detective in cyberpunk dystopia uncovers messages that the world is going to end soon

>every other chapter the story switches to an alternate universe where events are being mirrored symbolically, (it's implied events from one universe effect the other in synchronicity.)

>both universes gradually become aware of the other.

>spoiler: the twist is that everyone has these parallel universes in their unconcious. When the detective is about to die, his mind transfers to the other universe, where time is slow and he can live peacefully for eternity. But since everything that happens is simultaneously mirrored in the other universe, the parallel self decides at the end to return to Earth.

>Fiction and reality influence one another, and are stuck in an endless loop.




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