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47b83c No.13148

I am going to sit through a church service because I get dinner at a nice restaurant afterwards.

Is this a shameful compromise of my principles as an atheist or just a free dinner?

65d76a No.13150

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It isn't if you sleep through it like some old Christians who snore at church. My great grandmother told pastors if she stands up and leaves in the middle its because sh tends to drift to sleep and doesn't want to snore, and is so deaf she usually can't hear much of what he says. She said they were understanding of her apparent rudeness.

In my experience your neighbors are unlikely to wake you until its over, and the droning sermon, organs, and gospel music are a hympnotic lullaby. Unless it is Catholicism since they loudly stand and sit every five minutes to pray for the entire world and to sing, which is the only exercise some Americans get all week. The clacking when they drop the pew board onto the tiles and fall on their knees can disturb you, but if if you manage to sleep through it you will gain a few hours and feel more rested for the rest of the day.


47b83c No.13151

>>13150

It's a Catholic mass. So sleeping is out of the question. I don't mind the stand up, sit down mini-workout.. but I hate the kneeing and groveling.

But afterwards, I got a very nice rare roast beef with horse radish.

Did I disgrace atheists everywhere by selling out for free dinner?


1753ef No.13152

>>13148

Can you wear in-ear headphones? Listen to sind Podcast or music. Or you could train mindfulness meditation. Or just listen carefully. Christians don't do that or else they would be upset about it.


201446 No.13155

>sitting through hours of service for a meal

If you spent that time at a job you'd have enough to pay for 2 meals.


65d76a No.13156

>>13155

He is keeping your wages high and unemplyment low by not diluting the value of your labor. He is also helping to defeat religion by passive-aggressively reallocating resources that would be wasted on evangelism.


47b83c No.13157

>>13155

A Catholic mass on a typical Sunday is less than an hour.

I had good thirty dollar meal.

And I didn't have to do any heavy lifting.


7d6888 No.13158

>>13148

It wouldn't be the worst thing someone's sat through for free food.

I had a friend that just wanted free pizza so he sat in on a meeting of his university's My Little Pony fanclub. He decided he had enough and had to leave when they started getting to the fanfiction readings.


47b83c No.13160

>>13158

My little pony fan fiction does have more intellectual integrity than religious service.


bdd2e7 No.13243

I'm a poorfag, so I've often benefited by the charity of Christians. I think I see Muslims show up too for food (do any non-Islamic people wear hijabs?), so I don't feel too bad even though I don't tell anyone about my lack of belief.

I sometimes help volunteer at the church to help distribute food and clothes to other needy, so it feels like I'm doing something in exchange instead of just taking advantage of their generosity. I'm pretty sure they'd have given me the food anyways, but it makes me feel awkward since I'm not of their faith.

>>13150

>>13151

You should pay attention, even if you're not a Christian, you're still a guest and it'd be just as rude as going to a person's house, eating the food they give you, and sleeping though whatever they had to say.


65d76a No.13244

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>>13243

I used to give money to churches and my family still do, so I'd be absolved. And considering that churches are tax-exempt in America, the degree of guilt should be similar to that of taking welfare benefits from the state. The only reason it's not is you can see the faces of the donators without faceless intermediaries.

There are less obvious ways to shamelessly not pay attention in church which I developed as a teenager even before cellphones. I used to pretend to read the church pamphlets while drawing tic tac toe or "dots" on them with my friends, and generally zoning out.

When I slept at my friend's house, the mom was a Christian fanatic who made us go to church. We would try to sit in the overflow room outside the church where the speakers were so we could goof off, or to do self bible study instead. After church everyone would step outside to chat and get "free" donuts.

Their father was an apostate who often fought with his wife because he thought his wife was crazy and refused to go, ("Pastors wouldn't ask for money so much if they were expected to work a real job,") but when he dropped us off at church he regularly told his kids to bring back a couple of the free cinnamon donuts he liked for breakfast. Some regulars probably go for the free donuts they provide after church too.

"That was a great sermon today!"

*munch munch*

"Yeah!….what was it about again?"

*munch munch*

"We learned about being generous!"

*grabs a plate of donuts to bring home*


cdc7dc No.13245

>>13243

Are you a "catholic" or "protestant" atheist?

My money is on catholic.


af2264 No.13589

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Dinner and a show, what are you complaining about?


47b83c No.13594

>>13245

former catholic. I was really into it , but the legalism and scholasticism at least gave me some reasoning skills.

I'm lucky not to have been a Pentecostal, that stuff will give people brain damage.


47b83c No.13595

>>13589

The show is pretty weak.


af2264 No.13610

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>>13595

Well, it might be because I'm an "atheist" atheist. Never got brought up in a church, so services are very special occasions. Most of the time I was in a church, it was with some lame fundies because someone "invited" me to come and hear a "speaker". Big target on my forehead, no latin no genuflection no wafers. Also really reformed churches, so take Jesus on the cross and replace the deacons with guitarists.

>>13594

I have been to a number of Pentacostal services as well. Don't go, you will be legitimately scarred. Do you really want to be made to stand there in the front row, surrounded by wailing and watching someone have a seizure and froth at the mouth while babbling unintelligibly? And you will be in the front row, because someone heard you're an atheist, and now they're after you like a prize deer, and just at the right moment the entire cult is going to turn on you and drag you up to the pulpit where the pastor lays hands on you and 200 people pray out loud for you to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Afterwards everyone has tea and talks about how very nice Jesus is.

So yeah, the Catholics are all right.


6f1650 No.13632

What do you mean? i like going to church, i find it spiritually fulfilling.




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