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2d67b5 No.13343

A city of people is doing something that you think is wrong and that probably isn't good for them. You would like them to change their behavior. What do you do?

A. Take on a form that will respond to, appear to them and explain to them how things could be better if they adopted your ideas.

B. Appear to one hermit in the desert, and ask him to wander into their town, ragged and barefoot to carry your message to them.

2d67b5 No.13344

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>>13343

You are creating a universe and you would like to be appreciated for your labors. Which do you do?

A. Sign your work, and make frequent adjustments and alterations to it in full view.

B. Create a clockwork universe that runs by itself and stay out of the material world.


5f3d5c No.13345

A.

Though if all powerful, why not just install a set of ethics into them. Humans are already programmed with several tendencies like avoiding danger, seeking sexual pleasure, etc so it would make sense to also give them a better inherent set of ethics or better yet an inherent set of knowledge of science and philosophy so they can better figure things out for themselves.


2d67b5 No.13346

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Question Three.

You'd like to a have one true way of worshipping you practiced throughout all the universe. How do you spread it?

A. I appear multiple times across time and space repeating my message. This way when other cultures encounter each other their learned people can compare notes and see the truth.

B. I'll just appear once,, for a short time to bunch of guys who can't read or write and let them spread my truth around the world.


2d67b5 No.13347

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>>13345

But what about free will? If they don't have free will you can't punish them for being wrong.

Where's the fun in being a god if you don't get to smite someone now and again?


5f3d5c No.13348

>>13347

They would still have free will, just as people could say we now have free will. The only difference is that there's more inherent things attached to being human rather than just what we have now.


2d67b5 No.13349

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Question Four.

As a just and caring God, you want your subject to behave and play nice. Sometimes they get a little out of hand. When someone is naughty and hurts someone else do you..

A. Step in immediately, protect the innocent, and rebuke the wrong doer.

B. Let it happen. I'm sort it all out when I get around to ending the world a few thousand years from now. That's when I'll punish the wicked and reward the righteous.


2d67b5 No.13350

>>13348

Who says people don't have a few pro-social instincts?

Although,, they could use a little boast now and again.

Maybe this universe is just a test run and it's being play tested.


3505d1 No.13354

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>>13346

He kind of tried, didn't he? After Jesus died an was resurrected, he went to the Americas to appear to a civilization of Indigenous peoples who had migrated from Jerusalem centuries earlier. Before he left, however, he was faced with a choice:

A. Tell the people of the Americas to create a variety of records, accounts and portrayals of their life, all correlating to one another so that no doubt would exists they were a real civilization.

B. Wipe out all archaeological evidence of their existence, including texts, paintings, weapons, buildings and coins. Also compile all of those accounts into a single record, add some made up shit to spice it up (what the hell are "horses", "barley" and "curelom"? Ah, whatever.) and bury in upstate NY for a blond boy to find.


5f3d5c No.13357

>>13350

>Who says people don't have a few pro-social instincts?

I said they did. Hence why I'm able to say my plan doesn't violate free will (more social instincts) because we already have free will even though we have some instincts.


2d67b5 No.13358

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>>13354

Mormon "history" that's just adorable.

Massive battle with thousands of horse drawn chariots and armor and swords,, not a single shread of evidence ever found for them.

Ancient Hebrews build temple in Upstate New York in the Iron Age. That is wrong in so many ways. Mostly because the ancient Hebrews had one and only one temple ever and it would be nigh blasphemy to them to build another.


ac491f No.13359

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You are Izanami, the Japanese creator goddess. You died giving birth to the fire god, and your husband has come to the underworld to save you. You ask him not to look at you, while you talk to the gods of the underworld, but he accidentally does and sees your flesh has rotted. You want to come back to the land of the living, so how will you react?

A. Keep your cool. Finish talking to the gods of the underworld as you promised, and return to the land of the living with the man who loves you. Create lots of babies and islands, and have stories to tell with gods and humans. Shinto is all true, so there are definitely plenty of magical objects that can improve your looks or health.

B. Chase your husband through the underworld trying to murder him for peeping on you when you were vulnerable. Promise when he escapes to kill a thousand Japanese every day. Force your husband to cover Hades with a rock, permanently sealing you off from the land of the living. Make your husband into a widow and become his arch-enemy, and the enemy of everything you tried to create.


2d67b5 No.13362

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>>13359

Thanks for the Shinto. A little culture is always appreciated.

Which one is the correct answer according to the myth?


34146e No.13364

>>13358

Well, they did build another one after the first on got wrecked. People in the BoM didn't build temples, only synagogues. They had a weird mix of OT laws and atonement via Jesus.

What's more interesting is by development of interpretation of this supposed race. Old Mormons thought it was like Rome in America. Nowadays the apologist try and fix it by making them Aztecs and Incas. None of it makes sense, "e pur si muove".


2d67b5 No.13366

>>13364

But if you make some fake artifacts, I'm told there's a good chance the Mormon church will buy them off you.

and they definitely like to buy and destroy documents that paint ole' Joe Smith in a bad light.


ac491f No.13369

>>13362

It's always the less logical one, B. The gods in Shinto tend to be ruled by simple emotions, and regularly throw fits, forsake their duty, fight, or stop talking to each other when another god disrespects them.


2d67b5 No.13373

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>>13369

Are they as moody and dangerous as the Greek gods?

You pretty much don't want them to ever notice you. If they don't rape you or turn you into a spider, their love of you will screw you over. (Like Tithonus)

Or even if a God favors you, their rival will then torment you. Like Hercules son of Zeus was persecuted by Hera from the moment of his birth.

The Greeks had the right idea.. Gods are to be avoided.


129164 No.13374

>>13359

It's weirdly comforting to hear equally retarded mythology from other cultures…


2d67b5 No.13375

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>>13374

Hey.. all of our ancestor were ignorant shitheads. Humanity is united in that.


ac491f No.13377

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>>13373

Pretty much, but there isn't a lot of written folklore on them, at least not in English. My impression is in Shinto the gods prefer each other's company and don't meddle directly with humans quite as much as in the Greek myths. Except when they fuck a Japanese woman and make emperors (this is how some ancient historian justified a family's right to rule.)

There were good, bad and neutral kami, but you pretty much didn't want to get involved with them, and prayed so they wouldn't cause disasters. They even had hosogami, the god of small pox.

http://eos.kokugakuin.ac.jp/modules/xwords/entry.php?entryID=209

And there were tsukimono (spirits that would attach themselves to you like a leech, cause bad luck, or siphen off your vitality.) The oldest fox spirit stories from China (hulijing) and Korea (gumiho) were foxes that turned into seductful succumbus like that, although in native Japanese folklore foxes (kitsune) are neutral or benevolent, and make great fuck-buddies.

By the time the folklore for Japanese gods were written down, it had so thoroughly mixed with Buddhism that the gods were theorized as manifestations of Buddhist saints. It's disappointing for me that Shinto and Buddhism thoroughly mixed and became inseparable, and there is no "bible" for Shinto. I would prefer more erotic folklore with gods doing crazy things, rather than karma warnings and Buddhist morality tales.

Picture is of the Greek god of the north wind after he passed into Buddhist China through the silk road, and then became one of the oldest gods in Shinto.


3505d1 No.13378

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>>13366

This is true. Don't forget that God changes his mind quite often, and that the prophets of God are only Prophets when they are right, when they are wrong they are just men; give em a break!


ac491f No.13380

>>13377

When the new board comes up I will start a thread on shinto absurdities. I would start a new board but I'm too lazy, and if the buddhism board is dead, /shinto/ would have no chance.


2d67b5 No.13382

>>13380

I love religious absurdities.

I look forward to it.


64efa5 No.13383

A: Just forgive them.

B: Turn into a man, kill yourself to please yourself and them forgive them.


2d67b5 No.13384

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>>13343

O.P. here. I ran this thread over at /b/ too.

Troll gold was struck with this god test question.

You awake from your centuries long nap to discover an insolent mortal is mocking you on the internet. A god must be respected.

A. I strike the mortal dead with a thunderbolt and blind everyone who read his post. That'll show the world I am not to be trifled with.

B. I use my powers to "inspire" someone to stop fapping at anime long enough to post a picture of a fat guy in a hat.




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