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The rejection of belief in the existence of deities

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dda243 No.14256

What's your opinions on religion or references to religion in films? What makes these references good or bad?

For me a bad reference is when it doesn't go anywhere or add to anything. Prometheus is a prime example where the main character finds out that humans were made by those space jokey/engineers and then the whole philosophical subject was dropped after she said "I choose to believe."

200ec0 No.14259

It's almost alwas bad.

>fake deepness with bible quotes

>jesus style self sacrifice

>praying actually works

>super unlikely event that implies :God helped them. Main character starts believing again

>the bible is the most important book for some reason

>bible name dropping to imply the story has more to it than it seems.


999d73 No.14260

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>>14259

This. It's terrible when Hollywood extols you to have faith in every film because that message resonates with Christians. You see it in the X men series when anyone says "trust me" and then you're supposed to have so much faith in this stranger that you'd risk your life doing what they say to do.

I also hate it in anime when reincarnation is taken for fact. It likes to suddenly invade a previously secular story in the last third of the show, usually after someone dies unless they turned into a visiting ghost/spirit. And no characters seem surprised that supernatural shit/ encounters with the kami-spirit of your dead mom just happened, or that you're really the reincarnation of a 2,000 year old hero, because deep down no characters are Atheists in anime. It's like when Christian characters don't act confused when angels appear.

I also hate the theme of giving up every single one of your personal desires to become like a bodhisattva for undeserving people, just as I hate being extolled to 'turn the other cheek' like a masochist. I do find Buddhist mysticism's imagery interesting though in the form of hand signs, shamanism, magical talismans, and the fire consuming ritual you see in series like "Shinsekai Yori: From the New World."


200ec0 No.14365

>>14256

Worst examples out of my head:

Signs

The book of Eli

Phenomenon


999d73 No.14366

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>>14365

Phenomenon was hillarious scientology propaganda, complete with a magical tumor that caused ESP, evil government scientists, and a persecution complex. Sad thing is I liked it and Signs when I was a Theist.


1c2fa8 No.14515

"Field of dreams"

Guy builds baseball field in his cornfield after hearing voice. "If you build it he will come."

He doesn't ask for an explanation, just builds it on faith. And who comes? The ghost of his dad for one last game of baseball, as if that made the expenditure worth it. Would have been hilariously realistic if the movie ended with him losing the farm from the loan he took to build it, and nothing supernatural whatsoever.




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