c71aba No.1463
Atheists constantly ask: "Where's your proof?".
So I've got a proof for you right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQmodO2quW0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYQzOypD9oCold case detective, former atheist analyzed the gospels and came to the conclusion that Christianity is the true religion and what is written in the New Testament is real.
Now it's atheists' turn to provide the proof for their claims. The videos are pretty long, so take your time to watch them.
3b9741 No.1464
Oh a video defending christianity.
>"Comments deisabled"
Oh boy, here we go.
It's at this point I should have stopped, but I did not.
>Uses circumstantial evidence to establish historical fact.
>Talks shit about Bart Ehrman.
Fucking dropped.
There will never be evidence of the Christian god.
Theism is a litmus test of stupidity.
93b9d8 No.1468
Here we go again, another heavenly euphoric and angry spammer from /christian/ throwing links up and telling us to disprove it. /christian/ wouldn't stand for this, you'd be banned on the spot. Why does mod allow this link spamming, it's not proper discussion.
Name a point and we'll discuss it, don't just spam youtube videos here.
93b9d8 No.1469
>>1463
>gods don't need proof, it's all faith
>gods are real, a youtube video proves it 122246 No.1475
>>1468This.
Why can't the religious even be bothered to discuss their own religion?
Well, I guess if they weren't lazy shits, they'd have read their own holy books and they wouldn't be religious anymore.
c21a2b No.1477
>>1464>Theism is a litmus test of stupidity.*tips fedora*
And I say this as an ignostic, explicit, anti-theist atheist. Lots of people are "theists" (almost nobody ever self-identifies this way) because they're pressured into it by the social climate and/or the issue isn't that important to them. Yeah, those people who said they believed in God sure were stupid while the alternative was to have hot pokers shove into their asshole.
9e3638 No.1478
>comments disabled
I kind of understand why they do this, but honestly it just sort of says, "we don't want to hear what anyone here has to say", which makes me not want to watch the video.
So I won't :^)
3b9741 No.1496
>>1477If they don't feel the need to announce that they are theists, then how would I know they're idiots?
4dc156 No.1499
>>1463The only proof I will accept is a personal appearance from God,,
(at least if I am going accept Jesus)
Because according to their own doctrine everyone of us is special, and he is everywhere and all powerful.
Therefore, Jesus is highly motivated and easily able to appear to me.
Or if Cuthulu comes out of the Ocean and smashes California.
If either one happens I am down on my knees praying
93b9d8 No.1504
>>1463If your god is as mighty as you think he is, why do we have all that "proof" you posted yet so many unbelievers? Is it because it's unconvincing? If you can't be convinced, how can you believe? Without belief, you can't have faith.
As usual, it seems another OP just shat out a video of bullshit on us and left. Never actually standing up to any questions posed upon him.
c71aba No.1549
>>1504>>1504The video basically comes down to this:
1. The chain of custody is sound, the story doesn't change over time.
2. There was stuff in the Bible that was later confirmed by archeology(places, people, etc.)
3. There are even non-believers' accounts of some stuff Jesus did, just from them you can know a lot about Jesus if you piece it all together.
4. The differences between gospels aren't a bad sign, because witnesses rarely agree on stuff. If every eyewitness says the same thing, something's fishy and probably they talked to each other at one point.
5. The apostles died without getting rich, getting a girlfriend or getting power, they all died horribly. There was no point in spreading Christianity if they didn't believe in it. Why would they risk their life if it wasn't true? Why would they risk their life if it was all forged? Why would Paul try to join this new small church?
Also the only accounts of Romans getting Christians to change their faith was after the 1st century. No account of eyewitnesses ever changing their story.
ea2e8a No.1558
>>15491. It's one thing to state, another to prove.
2. Yes, and Native Americans also have places and people in their religions that prove were real. Same with the thousands of other countless religions.
3. See (2).
4. Congratulations, you figured out accounts of your god is as inconsistent with counts of other gods.
5. Plenty of people have died for others and ideologies.
You seem to think only your religion is special and that none of those points have anything in common with other beliefs, religions, gods, etc. Your argument is basically 'let's disprove my god'. Most of us here are basically non-believers in any gods. Your argue is better suited for /islam/ /judaism/ etc since you're trying to prove a specific god and religion.
I was once in your shoes. I spent years on an internet forum debating atheists and ten years later, here I am, still saw the light. And it was very much due to one cranky old atheistic geezer which I still thank to this day for putting up with my crap.
ea2e8a No.1570
>>1558Forgive my typos there. I'm low on sleep and English is my second language.
2cabea No.1592
>>1558For me I was stubborn and there were countless atheist geezers I listened to or debates as a christian. Gradually the weight of their evidence began to erode my beliefs, but mostly it was because I was intellectually curious enough to give their pov some consideration while doing my own research, into christianity, how religon are created, and scientific theory. One day after a lecture on buddhism I saw the light and euphoric feeling of release from bullshit some born again christians claim to feel when they accept the holy spirit. By accepting the notion there was no god, suddenly everything I had a problem with theologically made sense. Everything clicked. God killed non jews in the old testament not for any rational reason, but because the people writing it were self-righteous assholes. God didn't answer any of my prayers because he did not exist. God permitted the holocoaust not because he had reasons too deep for you, but because either 1) he's evil and doesn't give a shit about humans or 2) he just is not there.
OP, I will return the favor you would have done for me. I will pray to god of nothing that you see the light. Light which unshackled me when I did not know I was bound to darkness and ignorance.
ea2e8a No.1599
>>1592Actually, come to think of it I did kind of feel like a weight was lifted off my shoulders just as it did when I was baptised. Though to atheism, that feeling was more gradual and stands more the rigors of logic than religion ever did.
Very few christians I knew encouraged questioning, actually none but a few were more tolerant of questions which usually wound up being a maze of redirections, seemed like no one actually knew the real answers.
I'd like to think my 'baptizer', the old atheist internet geezer, is like George Carlin, lovable but grumpy. Where ever he's at these days, I'd like to thank him.
c71aba No.1600
>>15491. Fair point.
2. Fair point.
3. I don't get you here. Can you show me some proof other religions have as much stuff confirming them as what non-believers have admitted to about Christ?
4. It's obvious that Christianity isn't compatible with other religions, but that point was made by the guy in the video mainly to adress people that dismiss gospels on the basis of "even the gospels disagree with each other".
>5. Plenty of people have died for others and ideologies.But the writers of the gospels actually were there to actually see the stuff happening. The guy in the video addressed that too. Why would they die for their own lie?
Also how did atheism "unshackle" you? How did Christianity shackle you in any way? There were plenty of scientists/famous people that were Christians.
Besides, this is just my experience, but Christianity helped me because I feel like God is watching over me and I have to work harder. Surely, atheists can work hard too, but I am less lazy now because I just feel wrong when I am not doing anything. I feel judged, but I also feel hope. Besides, aside from some inconsistencies that may have been from human error Bible has a lot of good advice. And I mean A LOT. So much that I feel that it must have been divinely inspired. Not to mention it isn't like some religions where one guy wrote everything, Bible was written by many authors across long periods of time.
Also, not everything can be explained by science. Why do you think exorcists exist?
ea2e8a No.1609
>>16003. I thought faith needed no proof? You don't confirm religion. In your case, you're looking to confirm history, not religion. If you want confirmed history, read history books. If you want confirmed history of religion, there's many including the Greek or Roman gods, they loved writing shit down.
5. Why do people die for a lie? Are you seriously asking this? Plenty of people get duped into fighting for lies or for money and such.
Non-belief just let me know that a lot of intuition I had was correct. I don't follow good vs evil premises, I think I see the world and people with a little more clear analyzation now and not seeing it how others tell me to see it.
The bible says Jesus says there is basically no lukewarm so I took it pretty fundamentally. It leads to a lot of misjudgements about people and yourself.
Science doesn't explain everything but I'd bet more of my life living by scientific rigors than religious ones. I'd say this world doesn't work on magic. I think everything has a reason, a cause/effect and logic/science can show us how to traverse it. There's parts we don't understand but in those cases, you don't have to have gods to tell you, a lot of things just seem intuitive even if you have no logical guide.
Rarely as a grown adult do I have to stop and think what my mom taught me or what a bible taught me, it's a lot of common sense. Man survived many millenniums like this. If utility is your reason for believing, than that's my counter. If it's emotional, you feel you have to because it makes you feel good or because you think you'd go to hell if not, that doesn't bother me because I feel well enough daily, I have no complaints and hell just doesn't seem logical to me.
c71aba No.1613
>>1609>5. Why do people die for a lie? Are you seriously asking this? Plenty of people get duped into fighting for lies or for money and such.I was talking about the original eyewitnesses of Jesus like apostles.
2cabea No.1619
>>1613Why do suicide cults exist?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestownhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29Why are fundamentalist muslims raging jihad in syria right now? Why did Buddhist or Muslim apostles do exactly the same bold journeys Christ's are said to have done. Christianity is nothing special.
484336 No.1911
>>1549Are you a fundy?
If not, become one, read the bible lots and either you'll see the light of reason ripping apart the theological framework holding the various books and epistles of the bible together as one or you'll become another fundy nutjob seeing the mark of the beast and the antichrist cybersystem everywhere.
The former happened to me, thank reason for that.
131205 No.1974
b75c2b No.1976
>>1974
>but scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the Biblical accounts of Jesus,[12] and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius PilateYou should stop lying. Also, Charles Manson is historically accounted to have preached to people, therefore what he said to others was real.
c71aba No.2082
So, how do you guys explain these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Akitahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_F%C3%A1timahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%C3%A1timahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StigmataAnd many other supernatural occurences? Are you guys atheists just because nothing supernatural happened to you? That would be like saying WWII didn't happen because you didn't see it yourself.
4dc156 No.2083
>>2082And even more people report seeing Elvis and bigfoot and being probed by aliens.
c71aba No.2084
>>2083>In 1973 Sister Agnes reported apparitions of the Virgin Mary, as well as stigmata and a weeping statue of the Virgin Mary which, it is said, continued to weep over the next 6 years on 101 occasions. The nuns at Yuzawadai also reported stigmata on the statue, as well as on the hands of Sister Agnes. The stigmata on the statue is said to have appeared before the tears started, and disappeared after the tears.[5]
>During a Sunday Mass in 1982, Sister Agnes was totally cured from her deafness.[8] It is said that professional medical examinations were performed initially after she'd lost her hearing, verifying that she was 'incurably deaf', and again after she was healed, verifying that her hearing was 'normal'.[citation needed] Some time later, a Korean woman with a terminal brain tumor was miraculously cured after friends and relatives prayed for the intercession of Our Lady of Akita. She received visions of Mary related to the Akita events during her recovery, the first while comatose. Her disease was diagnosed and (later) cure verified by medical professionals in Korea. 88a983 No.2085
>>2084Oh, it's statuefag again. For every shitty story like that there's one for bigfoots and aliens, as guy above said.
>oh, but it has no bible associated with them.Bigfoots and aliens were also written about throughout history.
>oh but more people believe godsArgumentum ad populum.
>more people believe doesn't mean it's not true.Thread winds up being proof for retards.
4dc156 No.2086
>>2084And I heard about some old man who grew a third set of teeth after seeing flying saucer.
131205 No.2106
>>2082You know, you can keep posting these 'miracles', but until you define exactly what a 'miracle' is and what method you use to seperate a miracle from a delusion, it's a complete wasre of time
4dc156 No.2131
>>2084We already refuted this miracle in another thread.
When a scientists tested the blood, sweat, and tears from the statue they came from three separate individuals.
4dc156 No.2132
>>2084Why do these types of things only occur around people who already believe?
All those nuns had already devoted their lives to Christ, they didn't need a miracle.
Why doesn't God send Richard Dawkins an Angelic vision?
If he suddenly changed his mind and described a mystic experience.. I would be at least curious about it.
c71aba No.2580
3b9741 No.2581
>>2132I would be skeptical. Why do you think that the Dr. Oz show turned out the way that it did? Or that story about the boy who went to heaven?
2cabea No.2582
>>2580Bleh another intelligent design video. The universe is huge and scientists now believe it is a lot more likely extraterrestrial life could evolve than previously thought, especially given our studies of how organic molecules behave. Life could evolve differently, making it easier than we theorize. Star trek sums it up in one episode, "it's life Jim, but not as we know it."
3b9741 No.2584
>>2582If you take a cup and collect some water from the ocean in it, and find no whales in it, that doesn't mean that there are no whales out there. It just means you need a bigger sample size.
131205 No.2587
>>2584If all you had was a cup, you wouldn't be justified in believing there are whales. The only reason we think this now is because we've actually seen them
23baa7 No.2588
>he didn't believe the claims of Christ
As if they're even Christ's claims. This is garbage.
58434a No.2591
>youtube videos
The illamanatis manipulate the sheeple by drawing triangles everywhere. I know it because of a Youtube video.
3b9741 No.2592
>>2587That's true. But I'm not talking about magical whales that can telepathically communicate with it's mindslaves.
Stop being so defensive. You know what I mean.
3b9741 No.2593
>>2591Chackmate athesits!
Its teh ilerminaty!
c71aba No.4598
What do you guys think of exorcists?
c71aba No.7122
What does /atheism/ think of incorruptible saints and quantum physics?
"The Incorruptible Bodies of the Saints: St Charbel died on Christmas Eve, Dec. 24, 1898 at the age of 70, having been a priest for 39 years. According to monastic tradition, the body was not embalmed, but was dressed in a simple cassock and was placed in the monastery chapel for 24 hours. The body was then conveyed to the monks' burial chamber in the presence of his confreres and village folk who had braved the snow and cold to witness the interment. The burial chamber consisted of a large subterranean room located partially beneath the high altar of the chapel. Those who descended into this chamber found the ground covered with rainwater that converted the floor into a veritable swamp. In view of this situation the body was not laid on the ground as was customary, but was placed on two planks which did not prevent the water and mud from encroaching upon and subsequently submerging it. The entrance to the vault was closed with a great stone. Miraculously, the villagers who lived in houses facing the monastery saw a great light over the tomb the night following the burial, a phenomenon that recurred for 45 nights. This apparition of light, together with the enthusiasm of the townspeople, encouraged the ecclesiastical authorities to open the tomb and transfer the remains to a grave more accessible to the villagers who wished to pray beside it. The tomb was subsequently opened on April 15, 1899 in the presence of the community and 10 witnesses who had been present at the burial four months earlier. They were unanimous in testifying that the water had undermined the burial ground, turning the tomb into a quagmire, and remarkably the monk's body was actually floating on the mud. When the body was cleaned it was found perfectly incorrupt, the muscles supple, with the hair of his head and beard intact. At this time it was also noticed that a serum mixed with blood seeped from the pores. They placed the body in a wooden coffin that was glassed on top, and carried it into a small monastic oratory. From then on, because of the great amount of blood seeping from the body, the clothing of the saint was changed twice weekly. News of the phenomenon prompted ever increasing numbers of visitors who for 27 years were permitted to view and touch the body. Among the men of medicine who examined the body was Dr. Elias Elonaissi who declared on November 16, 1921: "I observed that the pores emitted a matter like sweat; a strange and inexplicable thing according to the laws of nature, for this body that has been dead for so many years. I have renewed the same examination many times, at different periods; the phenomenon has always been the same." Another physician, Dr. George Choukrallah, examined the body a total of 24 times during 17 years and declared: "I have always been astonished at its state of preservation and especially this reddish liquid exuded by it. .. My personal opinion based on study and experience, is that this body is preserved by a supernatural power.""
Quantum physics debunk materialism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5pq7W5yRM
1002c5 No.7137
>>7122
THOSE ARGUMENTS AGAIN
OVER AND OVER
UNTIL YOU DEBUNK THEM 1000 times
5d3dbf No.7138
>>2084
I know he posted this a long time ago but it's worth noting that statuefag just pasted this from the wikipedia article, and the only source cites a book called Akita: The Tears and Message of Mary. Similar reports online aren't sourced at all. The Catholic church doesn't even recognize stigmata at all so I'll let them wrangle with that fact.
So we have a book claiming that her deafness was cured and the story about the korean woman isn't sourced at all.
Don't believe everything you read, guys.
2cabea No.7141
/christian/'s creating a sticky for Alex thread also uses the three miracles from wikipedia. Every Catholic you argue with on the web will inevitably bring up one of the three as evidence when you ask them for external verification of the bible. (Which does not exist.)
-First there is the priest whoose wine turned to blood and bread to flesh that overflowed from in his mouth in 700 AD when he gave communion with doubt in his heart. I just imagine a guy vomitting in front of a church. It's the funniest miracle ever. The church even kept blood samples and holds it was a miracle even today.
If you ever need to demolish the credibility of the Catholic church, this is perhaps the weakest and dumbest one they still accept today. Ordinary Catholics must feel doubt when they learn the alleged facts since only 4 of 10 know in the Pew Pew survey their digma believes wine literally turns to blood during communion.
- The Akita statue. (See Statuefag thread. You can buy "make your own weeping statue" kits at Skeptics conventions.)
- The apparations at Fatima. Focus on how the third letter never came true and therefore the girls were false prophets to refute it through their own Theologoical framework. It is more effective than saying sudden sun dogs don't logically prove anything the women said is true, or that talking about mass delusions which most people are not well read upon enough to accept.
All of these are used today to show the Protestants do not have the true church. Therefore you can use Protestant arguments when debating Catholics, and Catholic arguments when debating Protestants.
6cb016 No.7143
>>7141
> the priest whoose wine turned to blood
>The church even kept blood samples
Do they still have the blood samples? If so I'd like to see them clone Jesus for the lulz.
58434a No.7145
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
A catholic priest finds out that God is real!
Astonishing video!
58434a No.7151
>why would the apostles lies
Does someone realise that Jews and Romans quite hated each others? I mean, the first Jewish-Roman war was in 66 CE, and Jerusalem was entirely wiped out in 70 CE.
So, if the dates are correct, a guy called Jesus pretended to be the messiah (ie the warrior who will save the Jews against their enemies) 50 years before they got crushed, then he died and his followers kept fighting.
58434a No.7153
Atheists constantly ask: "Where's your proof?".
So I've got a proof for you right here:
Osei Kofi Tutu was the founder of the kingdom of the Ashanti Confederation, with the help of Okomfo Anokye, his priest (who made lots of miracles, he even put a sword in the ground and said "this sword is the unity of our people, noone can take it out", and noone could take the sword out of the ground, even Mohammed Ali tried centuries later and failed, you can still see the sword in the Komfo Anokye Teaching Hospital located in Kumasi, Ghana, but I am digressing).
Osei Tutu dies during a battle, and has two heirs: the son of his brother (Opokou Ware) and the son of his sister (Dakon). According to the succession laws of the Ashantis, Dakon should have had the throne, but there is a succession war, Opokou Ware wins and Dakon dies. Then the sister of Dakon, Abla Pokou, claims her right to the throne and has lots of followers, but she is afraid to be killed by Opokou Ware.
Therefore Queen Abla Pokou makes an exodus with her followers to the north-west (so from Ghana to Ivory Coast) while the army of Opokou Ware are purchasing them. Between Ghana and Ivory Coast, there is the Komoe river, but because of the heavy rain, the river is very dangerous and rapid. Abla Pokou asks her soothsayer how they should cross the river, and he answers "my queen, the spirit of the river is angry, and he will calm down only when we offer it what is the most precious to us". People want to sacrifice their golden jewelry or their cattle, but the soothsayer says "the most precious is our children!".
Noone wants to sacrifice their own child, and Abla Pokou herself has no child. But her sister accepts to sacrifice her baby, so Abla Pokou takes him and throw him in the river. After the sacrifice, the river calms down and hippopotamuses appears and forms a bridge, by which Pokou and her people crosses to the other side. After crossing the river, Abla Pokou says "Bâ wouli", which means "the child is dead".
Then her people settled in Ivory Coast and are now called Baoule, in reference to that sacrifice.
So, is this story real? I think so.
Why would have the Baoule taken that name if the sacrifice didn't happen or didn't trigger any miracle? That would be very shameful, they couldn't have done that, the surrounding tribes would have disrespect them.
Other stories relates of the succession war of the Ashanti, so by crossing these sources, we can say the succession war really happen and the fled of Abla Pokou too, and therefore how could have they cross the river without the hippopotamus bridge?
Now it's atheists' turn to provide the proof for their claims.
2cabea No.7155
>>7153
hi atheist!
Atheists constantly ask: "Where's your proof?"
So I've got a proof for you right here:
This lonely fox girl did nothing wrong but she was condemned to be locked forever in a shrine.
So is is this story real? I think so.
Why would they have condemned her to be trapped at the shrine if she hadn't caused Earthquakes or cast plagues? We know earthquakes and plagues exist, which is proof she exists.
Now it's atheists' turn to provide the proof for their claims.
58434a No.7160
>>7153
I love how Wikipedia assumes the hippopotamus story is real.
It's written on Wikipedia, guise, so it's true!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Pokou
c85d67 No.7207
>>1463
I'm not going to spend hours of my time on this, summarize the arguments if you think they're so great.
c71aba No.10240
d86484 No.10242
>>10240
You give us a fucking 2h long video with no time link.
>Any counterarguments to this?
c71aba No.10243
>>10242
First 30 minutes contain the message, the rest is Q&A.
d87946 No.10260
>>1463
Mark 16:18
signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; 18they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."
Drink a pint of bleach, and we'll talk about your true religion, O.P.
c71aba No.10263
>>10260
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_16#Scholarly_opinions
"Currently a majority of scholars agree that verses 9–20 were not part of the original text of Mark but represent a very early addition.[38]
Explaining his own belief as to why the verses were added, text critic and author Bart D. Ehrman says:
Jesus does rise from the dead in Mark's Gospel. The women go to the tomb, the tomb is empty and there is a man there who tells them that Jesus has been raised from the dead and that they are to go tell the disciples that this has happened. But then the Gospel ends in Codex Sinaiticus and other manuscripts by saying the women fled from the tomb and didn't say anything to anyone because they were afraid, period. That's where the Gospel ends. So nobody finds out about it, the disciples don't learn about it, the disciples never see Jesus after the resurrection, that's the end of the story. But later scribes couldn't handle this abrupt ending and they added the 12 verses people find in the King James Bible or other Bibles in which Jesus does appear to his disciples.[39]"
d87946 No.10278
>>10263
Oh, so everything in the Gospel is the gospel truth except for the parts that obviously don't work.
Which turns out to be a lot of the Gospels…
Faith doesn't move mountains, and God doesn't grant any request made in Christ's name either.
c00543 No.10280
>>10278
>Faith doesn't move mountains, and God doesn't grant any request made in Christ's name either.
How can you ever know you just didn't have enough faith to make the mountain move?
>>1463
Mark 7:2 Jesus tells you not to bother washing your hands to get rid of germs when you're about to eat. Just have a pure heart and you won't get poisoned yo.
d87946 No.10288
>>10280
Maybe I know because no mountains have been moved by anyone ever.
Prayer doesn't work the way Christ promised it would.. neither does faith healing..
When your god starts doing something I'll consider paying attention to it.
921802 No.10307
>>2082
>NOT KNOWING THE BURDEN OF PROOF
>AGAIN
statue fag, get somewhere else. Go read the miracles of Shati Sai Babba or some other bullshit that satisfies your delusions
d878fe No.10342
>>10340
If religion is the opiate of the masses, then Communism is PCP.
ed76f8 No.10343
>>10342
A broken clock is right twice a day.
8902a6 No.10344
>>10342
The people who work should be allowed to own the means of production and class should be abolished sure is wacky :^)
ed76f8 No.10348
>>10344
If only that was all it really was. You seem to have a misconception of the core principle of Communism. That private property is also abolished. Get the fuck out.
c71aba No.10481
e7180e No.10483
>>10481
Why do you think dime a dozen apologetics brings anything new to the table? Most of his argument relies on the historical reliability of the gospels and his way of proving that is quote mining. If you've got some rigorous historical analysis, then by all means. But this is weak shit.
ed76f8 No.10486
>>10484
Seriously, stop posting pictures of that slut.
859cb7 No.10488
>>10484
How convenient that none of these discoveries were made using the Bible but completely independent of it. And how also convenient that none of these passages actually says this stuff but it's all a loose interpretation.
Try harder, faggot.
e7180e No.10489
>>10488
I don't think it's a serious image, bud.
Round earth discovered in the 15th century? Snow has material value? Human beings the last living things created? Most of it is wrong and some of it bizarre.
859cb7 No.10509
>>10489
At the same time, just because the image is filled with inaccuracies doesn't mean it wasn't intended to be serious. Assuming it was serious, it would then make sense for that person to believe that humans were the last things created and then try to claim that science later backs it up.
39a38c No.10512
>>10348
Private property refers to private ownership of the means of production you faggot, you're thinking of personal property
39a38c No.10522
>>10484
Jesus christ this is the most autistic thing I've ever seen in my life
f14560 No.12530
>>10484
why don't you try making a list of predictions that turn out to be right after doing lots of mental gymnastics, but in other religions.
or add a list of claims made by your religion that are blatantly contradictory to known scientific facts, starting from the age of the Earth, the position of Earth in the universe, the order at which things occurred in the cosmic calendar, and the origin of species to name a few.
It's almost like foundational bias makes you blind to chance. Do you also believe in the predictory power of horoscopes faggit? Do you think dowsers have magic powers because they get the right answer 50% of the time? Learn some science and statistics