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81fec1 No.1632

Let's share our favorite wtf religous passages. I'll start:

Remember when God punished Saul because he did not order his army to slaughter every man woman and child? "I thought I told you to kill them all! How dare you show mercy! You are no longer fit to be king of Israel!"

>Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.


> Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. (1 Samuel 15:2-3)


http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/15.html

81fec1 No.1633

>Kill Everyone in 7 nations: "When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are about to enter and occupy, he will clear away many nations ahead of you: the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. These seven nations are all more powerful than you. When the LORD your God hands these nations over to you and you conquer them, you must completely destroy them. Make no treaties with them and show them no mercy. Do not intermarry with them, and don't let your daughters and sons marry their sons and daughters. They will lead your young people away from me to worship other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and he will destroy you." (Deuteronomy 7:1-4 NLT)

ba1edb No.1636

New Testament stuff so christians can't say it's irrelevant. skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html

'But omg, that's all just methaphor, guys!'

Just to be clear, /christian/ lurkers, this board isn't a hatebox. Some of us do this because we know you have questions just like some of us did if or when we were religious and it's not always easy to ask or find criticism.

be6da5 No.1720

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>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these (Isaiah 45:7)
God admits to being the reason that evil exists.

b94ecb No.1722

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>>1636
Word.

2b7d70 No.1726

"As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."

All imageboards and basically most of the internet is "accursed".

221707 No.1736

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>1720
Holy shit. That's a Rotting Christ lyric. Neat.

81fec1 No.1818

David buys wife with 200 philistine foreskins:

"David and his men went out and killed two hundred Philistines. He brought their foreskins and presented the full number to the king so that he might become the king’s son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal in marriage" - samuel 18:27

(Later I also remember David screaming she is my wife! I bought her with 200 foreskins.)

81fec1 No.2541

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The worst chapter in the bible is probably Job.
> Job is a good man
> God says Job is his favorite (aside from David)
> God's arch-enemy Satan makes a bet: Job will renounce God if made to suffer.
> God has nothing to gain from taking this bet
> But Heaven must have been slow, because God said said why not! Satan I give you permission to torture that guy as much as you want while I watch!
> 30 pages of Satan during which Satan kills the man's daughters, makes him homeless, and then tortures him by covering him in painful boils
> Christians pretend God is merciful and is not responsible even though he was in control, and only because of him was Satan allowed to torture this man.

> God sends angels to brag about how powerful he is to a writhing man.


> Job is an idiot and says he still loves God, and God must have a reason for doing this.


> Finally God appears and stops the torture he started.


> God refuses to explain his actions to Job


> Then God tells Job and the world to fear him

> (Then God probably said, "See Satan! I won our bet!")
> (Satan shrugs and leaves the chapter. God and him are probably secret buddies, and have sadistic bets like this in Africa every day.)

> God says, "I might have killed your favorite daughters, but I'm giving you new and prettier daughters now so we're good right? We're bros again right?"


> A Christian explained that, "Oh, sure everyone died, but at least we know his daughters went to Heaven so that's okay. It's not okay! The bible said this guy lived for a long-ass time, just so he could grieve and miss them longer!"


> God finishes the chapter by going to reprimand the people that told Job he should curse God for being so cruel to him.


The worst part is many Christians look at this book and say it's proof of how much wonderful God loves us all….Are they even reading the same book?!

b94ecb No.2594

>>2541
I always understood this story as saying humans are utterly subservient to God and because God is so powerful, we'll praise him if we know what's good for us.

0faaef No.2599

>>2541
I don't know if that's the worst, but it's definitely the most obviously bad. I don't see how any amount of mental gymnastics can make people think God's actions were justified.

f2c380 No.2608

>>2599
God is more intelligent than you.
It's like penis inspection day : you don't like it, but it's for your own good.

144793 No.2611

>>2608

I would destroy Satan instead of some random guy's life, so he's definitely not more intelligent than me

f2c380 No.2612

>>2611
And you wouldn't watch the penis of children, so you're less intelligent than god.

f6da54 No.2616

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Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Your enemies will be right in your own household! If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine.

ab2b4d No.2634

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>>2611
God doesn't want to kill Satan.

It's like the Joker and the Batman.
(and just as real)

If the hero just kills the villain then the story ends, if the story ends the clergy have nothing to do.

f2c380 No.2635

>>2634
Mormon twist : Satan is God's son, making him the brother of Jesus.

ab2b4d No.2639

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>>2635

An evil twin?!

What a twist!

b94ecb No.2642

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>>2635
BROTHERRRR

b94ecb No.2643

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>>2642
LUCIFER

d2b0dd No.2645

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>>2642
FUUUUCK!

81fec1 No.2680

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David takes a census which for some reason brings God to anger and he murders 70,000 Jews.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/02/gods-76th-killing-god-kills-couple.html

David was considered "a man after God's own heart." He was also a killer, had at least six wives, but the one he loved more than any other was Jonathon. Jonathon was his intimate male friend who stripped him and then dressed him in his clothes. His friend "kissed him until David exceeded." But that's not gay right? A homophobic God wouldn't make a bisexual into a king right?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/david.html

Also, Numbers 22:20-22 2 is funny. God tells a guy in a dream to go with someone, and when he does as he's told, God's wrath is kindled because he went with them - two sentences later! (This is the story of where his donkey saw an angel and then the donkey talked to him.) Also this guy was a foreigner who supposedly knew God, but was still considered wicked and will probably burn in hell.

e082b1 No.3410

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>>1632
A bit heavy in theological content but as a fundamentalist (Calvinist) Christian this section was the biggest thorn in my side.

And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.

You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” (Romans 9:10-20)

For anyone who doesn't get what's going on here basically:

>Paul discussing God's work in salvation

>Examples of old Bible stories to show he chooses who will be saved
>Basically if you get saved its because God chose you to be saved
>If you don't its because He hardens you against being saved
>Ok seems a bit harsh to me, why does he blame us for what he does?
>You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?
>Ahhh Paul gets it, he knows this seems weird and makes God look bad
>Gear up for awesome theological explanation
>"But who are you, O man, to answer back to God?"
>mfw the answer to the dilemma of why does God blame us if He is responsible for saving us is: DON'T TALK BACK TO GOD
>mfw I have no face

099ecf No.3540

>>1632
It would be more accurate to say certain depictions of God in the Bible are of an evil God, but by basic logic this does not mean that God is evil.

d2b0dd No.3549


c69f1b No.4310

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>>1632
>God is Evil

[gnosticism intensifies]

81fec1 No.4312

>>4310
Yeah just ignore the whole thread. That'll Impress the Atheists.

167455 No.4316

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>>4310
>God is Evil
Yep, and you can read more about it the Bible.

c85f0a No.4361

>>4310
You don't have to believe in a God to say that God is evil, m8. People have been judging fictional characters since they existed.

Jar Jar binks is an annoying, Indiana Jones is badass, the xenomorph is scary, your waifu is shit.

When people say "God is evil" even though they're atheists, it's very likely that they're judging God on the basis of being a fictional character, not judging God under the belief that he actually exists.

81fec1 No.4571

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God tells Abraham to kill his son Isaac, only it's revealed to be a sadistic test. When the knife is about to come down on his son an angel miraculously in the nick of time to save him. (Gen 22.). If the angel had come a second later, he'd have felt mental anguish for the rest of his life. God likes sadistic tests. See Job >>2541 he only favors those who obey him unquestioningly, to the point of doing morally reprehensible acts in his name. He also seems insecure, because he always needs to test people's faith.

God should never have ordered a father to to kill his only son, because that is an absolute evil act that can never be justified. The moral thing to do would be to disobey God and not kill your son unless you were given a very good explanation. It's sad that God would want people to obey him even though he can be as wicked as Satan. This also passage shows how easily people can be led to doing evil when they think they must follow "God."

59513f No.4587

>>4310
With Christian God it's more like a world where billions and billions of people burn in Hell for all eternity.

7a8342 No.4643

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>God can be immoral
>Holding God to the standards of man
>Never looking into philosophy yet having a quote from a philosopher in your banner

Is this place a JOKE?

7a8342 No.4644

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>>4643
Also

>board on atheism

>95% about Christianity
>Almost no other religion
>/r/atheism 2 electric boogaloo

You are useful idiots, a TOOL for the Jewish hate for Christianity. SAD.

You are the lowest end of the Atheist movement. From desire for truth and freedom to hate and an alternate religion

511d15 No.4682

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>>4643
>>4644
FUCK OFF, JIDF

/atheism/ is WHITE AND REDPILLED

>God can be immoral

According to someone's standards.
>Holding God to the standards of man
Comparing your standards to a skywizard's can be done even if there is a skywizard.
>Never looking into philosophy yet having a quote from a philosopher in your banner
Projection

>95% about Christianity

>Almost no other religion
All the desert cults are mocked here.

>Jewish hate for Christianity.

Whatever you say, Moishe. Need more Christbucks for Israel? Atheists opening the gates for Satan's demonspawn again, right? I gotta give you this much, Moishe. You sure made these cattle believe some crazy shit.

>You are the lowest end of the Atheist movement. From desire for truth and freedom to hate and an alternate religion

Projection

f6e782 No.4683

>>4643

>Holding God to the standards of man


Considering that an all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-loving deity should be held to a higher standard of behavior, it is embarrassing that he cannot live up to a standard which would qualify even a lowly human as a decent person. Do you want God to be held to a lower standard of behavior than that to which we hold each other? Is it your form of worship to infantilize God in this way?

>>4644

>95% about Christianity

>Almost no other religion

You're the loudest group on this site and challengers who come to our board most frequently represent yours. If we didn't respond to your arguments, you would call us out for failing to address your criticism. If we do respond, you complain that we are addressing you more than other religions. No matter what we do, you will find a way to complain about it.

e082b1 No.4684

>>4644
Considering I live in a country where Christianity is by far the most common religion why wouldn't I talk about it the most you drooling fuckwit?

f117e8 No.4687

>>4644
http://davidduke.com/jewish-professor-boasts-of-jewish-pornography-used-as-a-weapon-against-gentiles/
>Is there a deeper reason, beyond the mere financial, as to why Jews in particular have become involved in porn? … Al Goldstein, the publisher of Screw, said “The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.” Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged. … Extending the subversive thesis, Jewish involvement in the X-rated industry can be seen as a proverbial two fingers to the entire WASP establishment in America. …

Anyone see the inconsistency between this and the infographic?

c85f0a No.4691

>>4644
>95% about christianity
Considering how a board called /christian/ is one of the top 25 boards on 8chan as well as the fact that every one who comes to challenge us proclaims themselves to be a Christian, including you yourself, it shouldn't be too hard to wrap your hear around the idea that it would be a subject of frequent conversation.

>You are useful idiots, a TOOL for the Jewish hate for Christianity. SAD.

Hurf durf criticizing Christianity makes you a tool of DA JOOZ!

I don't hate Christianity because a bunch of equally retarded people do, I hate it because it's an illogical backwards set of beliefs and ideals that are incompatible with the modern world.

If you want to cry useful tool I can jut as easily say you're the ultimate kike bitch because you're going around vilifying pornography of all things, something several people like and don't want taken away by moral puritans, and saying the reason porn shouldn't exist is because of Jewish involvement thus making your position the least desirable for just about everyone.

7a8342 No.4734

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>>4682
>/atheism/ is WHITE AND REDPILLED
>Jews
>White
Atheism is a movement created by Jews and self-worshiping cunts to dismantle the morals and culture of a country established by religion in order to trigger revolt and division, so the Jew can rise from the ashes and lead the people with promise of order, safety, and return to the moral society with new leaders.

>IMPLYING THE JEWS HAVE NOTHING BUT HATE FOR CHRISTIANITY


>>4683

f117e8 No.4738

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>>4734
I don't think you saw the sarcasm in that guys post.

c85f0a No.4740

>>4734
Atheism existed well before jewish people. As soon as the first God was proposed to exist, there likely was the first atheist from the guy who thought the proposer was full of shit.

There's no good reason to assume that atheism was invented by the jews when atheism is simply the rejection of a positive claim that God exists. You are aware that if atheists have their way and eventually all the world reject gods and religions, Judaism will fall along side Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and all the other gods and religions, right?

Unless you have proof of that absurd Assassin's Creed bullshit, you just look like a retarded conspiracy theorist.

f117e8 No.4742

>>4734
also
>/pol/
>not self worshiping
>MUH DEGENERACY MUH REDPILLS

511d15 No.4743

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>>4734
>Christianity is a movement created by Jews and self-worshiping cunts to dismantle the morals and culture of a country established by religion in order to trigger revolt and division, so the Jew can rise from the ashes and lead the people with promise of order, safety, and return to the moral society with new leaders.
FTFY

d2b0dd No.4745

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>>4734
Wow, besides falling for that bait, you then make a post that makes no goddamn sense whatsoever.

f6e782 No.4747

>>4738

>per-concieved

28a6cd No.4750

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Why would jews want to trigger revolt if they already control everything?.

28a6cd No.4751

>>4750
Meant for >>4734

f6e782 No.4756

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>>4750

>smug anime 2.jpg

c85f0a No.4757

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>>4747
Thanks for catching that mistake, m8. Fixed.

64d0b7 No.4759

It saddens me that from this post >>4643 onward /religiouspol/ came and tried to turn the thread to shit You should start a new thread to introduce your Jewish conspiracy shit. But you should try to deal with the scripture presented here, rather than shit post cluster fucking on a thread that had thoughtful contradictions with legitimate citations anyone can read and challenge.

34e633 No.4760

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>>4750
>never played Deus Ex

5bc592 No.4772

>>2541
Job is still one of my favourite short stories, sorry about killing your waif and kids and friends, here have money and a new waif.

5bc592 No.4773

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511d15 No.4830

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511d15 No.4831

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>>4773
Micks and Jews Bad News

511d15 No.4832

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511d15 No.4836

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81fec1 No.6028

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The bible condones slavery of the conquered who the Jews have not annihilated.

From: http://holy-bible-search.blogspot.com/2013/06/holy-bible-quotes-can-be-bad-ass-scary.html

81fec1 No.6035

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Deuteronomy 22:20-21New International Version (NIV): "stoning your daughter on the doorstep of her father's house for promiscuity."

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

Psals 137:9 "god wants you to take glee when you murder babies." New International Version:

Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

Elisha Is Jeered (men of religion can't take mild verbal insults from passing youths without calling God to maul them to death.)

23From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 25And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria.

(God forbids the castrated from going into the temple. I assume this applies to those born that way, but shouldn't circumsizion apply too?! Also the descendants of those God saw as unclean condemened for ten generations.)

◄ Deuteronomy 23:1 ►
Exclusion from the Congregation
1"No one who is emasculated or has his male organ cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD. 2"No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the LORD; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the LORD.…

So yeah, the Jews always had it rough. It was much better to not be one of God's chosen people, and be two countries away which is far enough that you wouldn't have to fight ruthless barbaric Jewish tribes that wanted to expand their land, or deal with occassional miraclous orgies of destruction. Five hundred km from Israel and you'll be safe since that's about where God forgets about you. The Bible only talked about local things and doesn't know an outside world exists outside of the deserts of the Middle East, Northern Africa, and later Rome. The prophets God revealed things to had no idea of the other continents.

a88b51 No.6067

>>2634
what if Satan one day decides to redeem himself and the story ends with everyone living a happy life forever?

Are Christians allowed to pray for the conversion of the devil?

a88b51 No.6068

>>3410
Good one

>>3540
it would be more accurate to say the Gods of Abrahamic religions and their holly books are mundane human myths that developed informally through centuries and so they are plagued with inconsistencies and human-like behavior attributed to the character current monotheists claim is a perfect supernatural being

a88b51 No.6069

>>4310
>hey guys, just look at these Greek myths, Zeus was so horny and a dense motherfucker

>OMG YOU REALLY BELIEVE ZEUS EXISTS BUT THAT HE IS NOT THE KIND OF BEING WE WOULD EXPECT.

>ATHEISM IS JUST ANOTHER RELIGION

a88b51 No.6070

>>4682
>/atheism/ is WHITE AND REDPILLED
and assuming your unfounded claim is true, why would that be important?

a88b51 No.6071

>>4836
>implying Judaism isn't a spinoff of Akenaton's religion and Zoroastrianism

81fec1 No.7423

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

How to cure someone of leprosy.

Catch two birds and kill one of them.

Dip the living bird in the blood of the dead one.

Then sprinkle the blood off the living bird onto you for 7 times.

Wait 7 days.

Let the bird go free.

You will be cured of leprosy.

- (Leviticus 14)

Am wondering why faithful Christians prefer modern medical treatments today instead of the bird blood treatment. It's almost as though they don't believe in their bibles.


81fec1 No.7548

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"You remember, when Jesus was born in a manger according to the story, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem. And they were led by a star.

Now the closest star to the earth is more than a billion miles away. Think of the star leading three moth-eaten camels to a manger! Can you imagine a star standing over any house?

Can you imagine a star standing over the earth even? What will they say, if they had time? That was a miracle. It came down to the earth.

Well, if any star came that near the earth or anywhere near the earth, it would immediately disarrange the whole solar system. Anybody who can believe those old myths and tables isn't governed by reason"


0faaef No.7636

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Genesis 11:1-9 (The Tower of Babel)

>early times

>all people living together and getting along, speaking the same language

>Genesis 11:4 "'Let's build a great city with a tower that reaches to the skies–a monument to our greatness! This will bring us together and keep us from scattering all over the world.'"

>God's reaction: "'Look!' he said. 'If they can accomplish this when they have just begun to take advantage of their common language and political unity, just think of what they will do later. Nothing will be impossible for them!'"

>can't have that, can we?

>people actually making progress and accomplishing shit?

>no way.

>God gives people different languages so they can't understand each other and scatters them all over the Earth

>That'll teach 'em

The end.

Until the 20th century at least :)


81fec1 No.7815

File: 1432064214089.jpg (30.2 KB, 189x265, 189:265, 65024.jpg)

EX 28:34-35 Entering the holy place without wearing bells can result in death.

"34 A golden bell and a pomegranate, a golden bell and a pomegranate, upon the hem of the robe round about.

"And it shall be upon Aaron to minister: and his sound shall be heard when he goeth in unto the holy place before the Lord, and when he cometh out, that he die not."

http://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/absurd.html


2fc606 No.7825

>>3540

>>6068

If I'm recalling correctly there was a Persian writer by the name of Mani who wrote a huge deconstruction of the old testament to determine if it's written from the perspective that god is actually the devil. The idea was that we could fundamentally never know who really won the war in heaven where lucifer is cast down, and it could have actually been the original god.

I'll see if I can find the text or this video I saw about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62QNG71djpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmmEB40O96Y

I think this guy had a pretty good handle on it.


81fec1 No.8848

File: 1434436271056-0.jpg (89.73 KB, 718x634, 359:317, image.jpg)

File: 1434436271057-1.jpg (10.56 KB, 240x180, 4:3, image.jpg)

File: 1434436271091-2.jpg (9.94 KB, 240x180, 4:3, image.jpg)

New Jerusalem will be 1500 feet in height by 1500 miles wide, and by 1500 miles in length. God's new cubical-house is gonna descend on Earth like a Borg cube and probably crush a billion non-believers in India while the Angels blow trumpets. Then it will fill up with all the good Christian dogs, it will also abduct the most beautiful women.

The men will be angry and will form a Federation and presumably fire weapons at the cube to try and reclaim their wives, but to no avail for God has shielded the walls it with 12 thick layers of precious stones at the cost of living space. Then the cube will destroy the Earth and escape into space. The precious gems will protect people from cosmic radiation, although God's light will always shine in the city which implies the inside is radioactive.

(Then it will make it's way to Kolob, because the Mormons were right about God being a divine spaceman after all.)


b2d51d No.9134

File: 1435255227038.jpg (47.19 KB, 500x400, 5:4, image.jpg)

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. " - Jesus, Luke 14 : 26

http://biblehub.com/luke/14-26.htm


5e870b No.9162

>>8848

>Federation

>Fedoration

Missed a good opportunity there.


b2d51d No.9601

File: 1436725544425.jpg (74.54 KB, 640x360, 16:9, image.jpg)

Roots edition:

EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly.

MT 26:51, MK 14:47, JN 18:10 The ear of a slave is cut off and left that way

EX 21:7-11 A father can sell a daughter into slavery to pay a debt. A daughter sold into slavery is not released at the end of six years as is an ordinary male slave.

EX 21:16 Whoever steals a man is to be put to death. (Note: This is in spite of the fact that a father can sell his daughter into slavery; see EX 21:7-11.)

EX 21:28-32 When an ox gores a man to death, the ox must be stoned. If the ox has gored a man previously, the animal's owner must also be put to death; in the case of the goring of a slave, the only requirement is that the owner of the ox must pay thirty shekels to the owner of the slave.

LE 25:44-46, DT 15:17, EP 6:5, CN 3:22, TS 2:9, 1PE 2:18 Slavery is an everlasting institution. Slaves are to obey their masters in everything.

EX 21:7-11 A father can sell a daughter into slavery to pay a debt. A daughter sold into slavery is not released at the end of six years as is an ordinary male slave.

EX 21:16 Whoever steals a man is to be put to death. (Note: This is in spite of the fact that a father can sell his daughter into slavery; see EX 21:7-11.)

EX 21:20-21 A slave owner is to be punished if he strikes his slave and the slave dies shortly thereafter. If the slave lives a day or to and then dies, the slave owner is not to be punished. A slave is the same as money to his owner.

http://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/precepts.html

When Sarah's slave Hagar flees from Sarah who is mistreating her (with Abraham's blessing), God sends an angel to tell her to go back to her abusive owner.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/interp/slavery.html


a109a3 No.9691

>>4571

I wrote a whole post about this, but I forget where… Basically, everyone sacrificed children to their God at the time. God asks to be sure He is considered the same way, and, and that's the main point, He spares the child. The point of the story is that God doesn't want child sacrifices, unlike the other Gods.

(Also don't forget it's Jewish fiction, just like Job is a poem, hence fiction, it's not literally God doing all this.)


8c17c4 No.9694

>>9691

>Jewish fiction

It's nice to hear a christfag admit this about the bible.

'Oh, but not the part I believe', is probably what you'll tell me next.


b2d51d No.9713

>>9691

>unlike the other Gods

By the same token other cultures also condemned human sacrifice. Rome outlawed it around 97 BCE, and one of the Roman criticisms of Christianity was that it was founded on human sacrifice,(and "canibalism" when eating the body and blood of the savior.)


b2d51d No.9880

File: 1437707308527-0.png (306.63 KB, 1023x1198, 1023:1198, egypt 1500 bc max exten.png)

File: 1437707308546-1.png (658.25 KB, 1600x1100, 16:11, assyrian-empire.png)

File: 1437707308569-2.png (74.84 KB, 591x529, 591:529, Neo-Babylonian_Empire.png)

File: 1437707308570-3.jpg (42.79 KB, 1020x652, 255:163, zoroastrian-persians-in-eg….jpg)

Maps are in chronological order starting at 1500 BC. Remember Judaism wasn't affected by their masters, they gave those countries any religious similarities!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible#Torah


55a6cb No.10349


b2d51d No.10566

File: 1440106963974.jpg (476.28 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, image.jpg)

>when Jesus died darkness covers the land, there is an earthquake, and the saints are resurrected and walk the streets of Jerusalem. Apparently Jesus's resurrection was a boring routine event in those days.

>no one talks about any of these 3 miracles except in the book of Mathew

"It is an easy thing to tell a lie, but it is difficult to support the lie after it is told. The writer of the book of Matthew should have told us who the saints were that came to life again, and went into the city, and what became of them afterward, and who it was that saw them — for he is not hardy enough to say he saw them himself; whether they came out naked, and all in natural buff, he-saints and she-saints; or whether they came full dressed, and where they got their dresses; whether they went to their former habitations, and reclaimed their wives, their husbands, and their property, and how they were received; whether they entered ejectments for the recovery of their possessions, or brought actions of crim. con. against the rival interlopers; whether they remained on earth, and followed their former occupation of preaching or working; or whether they died again, or went back to their graves alive, and buried themselves."

Part II section 15 Age of Reason by Thomas Paine


ee10d6 No.10574

>>1632

I used to be depressed that god didn't exist and then I read the bible.

How did the whole "God loves everyone" concept come out of this mythology?


ee10d6 No.10577

>>7423

Even when I believed,, I couldn't understand why Leviticus was in the Bible.

Leviticus is filled with stuff that Christians never ever done.. dietary laws, animal sacrifice, a dress code….

This book that everyone ignores is in the Bible, but the Book of Enoch which has that super cool story of Lucifer's revolt and fall didn't make the cut..


b2d51d No.10658

The book of Genesis was written in the Near Eastern IRON Age, and the Hebrews were worshipping an erupting volcano while they were "in the wilderness" (Exodus 19: 16-19;)


b2d51d No.12615

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

The kid from the twilight zone sums up what life in heaven would be like if you kept your mind. You don't dare question or reprimand the kid who has godly powers, because he is too spoiled to take criticism, and will condemn you into non-existence.


784b0e No.12624

>>12615

I forgot all about this episode and it was one of the scariest ones. On a relatable note, there's nothing more scary than irrational people with too much political power.


802a94 No.12648

>>2541

Also notable is that, though it's translated as capital-S "Satan," the character in Job is referred to as ha-satan, i.e. the satan, i.e. the accuser. He's an angel acting as an agent of God to put roadblocks in front of God's favored race, for various reasons. The development of the Satan myth is actually petty interesting, not to mention it shits all over modern theology.


10aa4c No.12659

>>2541

>>2594

That's basically how Christians interpret it, but that doesn't make God any less fucked up though. Christians who talk about how wonderful the book of Job is remind me of people suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Actually, Christians in general remind me of people suffering from Stockholm syndrome. They're constantly tormented by the idea of eternal hellfire, and they modify their behavior and radically change who they are in order to make sure they'll be saved. They're slaves to their religion, yet they rationalize it, and manage to convince themselves that they're free. I actually hear this quite a lot from Christians. They say they're free because they're not slaves to their primal desires, like the desire for sex, drugs, etc.


b2d51d No.12897

File: 1449472460320.jpg (57.43 KB, 450x604, 225:302, CRAZY PROPHET IN THE CITY.JPG)

http://infidels.org/kiosk/article/crazy-old-ezekiel-904.html

>"…Ezekiel, one of the major prophets, was not only a lousy prognosticator, he was an absolute lunatic as well."

infidels.org is a treasure trove of well written articles. What's funny is how Christians can read the same story and recognize Ezekiel was not normal. But instead of dismissing him as mentally insane like Atheists would, they respectfully call him "eccentric" and try to learn lessons from the lives of the ancient wandering nutcases called prophets.

http://www.morfmagazine.com/article/bizarre-bible-study-ezekiel%E2%80%99s-uncomfortable-object-lessons

>Why would God ask him to do something that made him look crazy?

>How would your daily life and the people around you be impacted if God asked you to copy Ezekiel?

Christians should recognize there's little difference between ancient prophets who lived in the desert, and modern religious nutcases who sleep on the sidewalk and shout at the rest of us. Bums are modern prophets. Any schizo that scrambled his brain with hard drugs can cook up a prophesy with rich imagery.


825ec9 No.12903

>>12897

>>How would your daily life and the people around you be impacted if God asked you to copy Ezekiel?

This line bothers me because I feel like they're feeding into schizophrenic delusions. If a kid grew up believing that Ezekiel was merely eccentric, rather than insane, and then grew up and became schizophrenic, he would be far less likely to realize that he was delusional. Which would be incredibly sad since a lack of insight is one of the hallmark symptoms of schizophrenia, and since psychologists try very hard to get schizophrenics to recognize the irrationality of their behavior.

And since we're talking about God being evil, I think the existence of mental illnesses like schizophrenia is proof that the Christian God is evil. When Christians are asked why so much suffering exists, they'll often say that God makes us suffer to make us stronger or to teach us a lesson. But no schizophrenic has ever benefited from their condition, it's just a tragic disease which affects 1 percent of the population, which is a pretty significant number once you realize how much pain and suffering it inflicts on the people suffering from it and their loved ones. Some Christians will also say that a lot of schizophrenics deserve to have schizophrenia because of the sins they've committed. This is also ludicrous, because although some schizophrenics are obviously bad people and have done some pretty immoral things, a lot of schizophrenics are also very good people who had promising careers and lives ahead of them before that pernicious disease wreaked havoc on their lives. Not only that, but children can get schizophrenia too (although it's pretty rare), and obviously it would be ludicrous to suggest that a toddler deserves that much suffering. The same argument could be made if you replaced schizophrenia with polio, pediatric brain tumors, or any other really tragic disease.


000000 No.12910

What was the story where God orders a prophet to marry a hooker?


43fb6a No.12914

>>12903

>it would be ludicrous to suggest that a toddler deserves that much suffering.

It would be the same God that killed the first borns in Egypt. Or sent bears to slaughter a bunch of kids because they called one of his prophets 'baldie'.


ee2faf No.12915

File: 1449528310186.jpg (48.1 KB, 490x490, 1:1, jon snow laughs.jpg)

>Read this thread

>Only focusing on the most boring and uninteresting sects of Christianity

All right fellas, I think its time we had a chat about Korihor.

Korihor was a man living in pre-columbine America about the year 75 B.C. and he had the audacity to be an atheist. (This is from the Book of Mormon)

He went around challenging people's faith, and asking them how they could believe in a God they could not see or hear or prove, and what God had ever done for them, and that they probably only believed in God because their parents raised them that way, and all that completely illogical nonsense. Naturally, people started to treat him like shit and kick him out of their towns, which sounds nice except for the fact that all their societies had been founded on Christian principles (yes, before Christ). God told the prophets that their societies NEEDED to have Freedom of Religion, or they would be against God. He said this to them back in the 600's B.C., even when He demanded that men, women and children who had other Gods be put to death in the Middle East. This can be easily explained by the fact that God is all-knowing, and of course he was aware that eventually the Enlightenment would happen, and the Founding Fathers would happen, and America would happen, and that it would have these types of Laws. In fact, God liked them so much that He went back in time and gave this understanding of proper secular democratic governance to a civilization of Jewish Indians living in pre-colombine America.

Eventually, Korihor gets kicked into Zarahemla, the main city where Alma, God's prophet and high priest, resides. The people want him dead, but Alma decides to debate him publicly instead because he understands Freedom of Religion but he has to put this atheist nigger in his place. This dialogue is pretty much what ensues. I paraphrase a little but I have the source material right next to me and I'll give it upon request.

>Alma: Do you believe in God

>Korihor: No

>Alma: You deny that God is real and so is Jesus?

>Korihor: Yeah

>Alma: I KNOW there is a God and Jesus and all that. What evidence do YOU have that they don't exist? I know these things are true, and I know deep down you are Christian but you are deceived by Satan so hard you can't even see it bro.

>Korihor: Show me evidence God exists.

>Alma: How dare you? Just look around you, there's evidence to spare. You have the scriptures, you have the testimony of all these people (you sayin' they're all WRONG?) and that of the prophets (why are we in charge if there is no God, huh?) Look at the Earth, how beautiful nature is, the fact that the earth moves the way it does and that the planets are so organized pretty much proves there is a Supreme Creator (actual term used). You still don't believe in God?

>Korihor: No, just show me evidence.

>Alma: It makes me incredibly sad that you are so hard-hearted and ignorant that you refuse to see the truth and you will go to Hell. However, it would be better for you to go to Hell alone than to take more people with you, so God will strike you dumb (mute) so that you can't keep saying these things and make people loose faith.

>Korihor: Well, OK. I can't prove there isn't a God, but I have no reason to believe it because there is no evidence, and neither do you. You can't know there is a God, just show me some evidence or else I won't believe in God.

>Alma: Here's your fucking evidence you fag, SHUT THE FUCK UP

>Korihor is struck mute by Alma's powers, brought to you by God.

And then Alma gives Korihor a writing utensil and a writing surface and asked Korihor if he believed in God now, the little bitch. Korihor said:

>Yeah, I do, this pretty much proves it. I always knew actually but Satan just dominated me somehow and made me say that shit. He gave me a ton of money and success and bitches for this, but damn, I just hope God can forgive me. Can I be cured now?

Alma, in a shining example of Christian charity, tells him no fucking way because he'd only start doing the same shit again. Korihor became a beggar, Alma published (don't ask) his story so everyone would know what happens to little atheist cunts in the Land of Religious Freedom.

Korihor was a homeless beggar for the rest of his life until he was trampled by the horses of some other Indians in the area and died like a dog on the streets.


a3684c No.13147

^Crazy how the Atheist dies for no reason at the end like in God is not Dead. Except the narrator had to explain he died because Satan abandons Atheists and makes them die faster. And what happened to forgiveness when the guy said he completely wanted to repent for blasphemy?

Also great how in it they called planets "planets," and it switches between thou and ye in one sentence (second person singular and second person plural) as Smith gets confused by 'ye olde butcherede Englishe.' And these advanced Indians must have had a high degree of universal literacy for the Atheist to write it down.


9c3d21 No.13272

The extra-Biblical "free will" theory itself implicitly demonstrates that the Christian god is an evil being. It contains the self-contradictory premise that an allegedly all-good deity would have installed in his humans the ability and the desire to do evil. By definition "all good" means "no bad", so ipso facto it would be beyond the ability of that god to perform such an evil act as to program his creations this way. We are told to believe that god has, for reasons of his own, endowed humans with the ability to reject "his will for them", which, since they are made in his own image and likeness, is to do good. Here, humans contradict themselves by imposing limitations of their own imagination on what they represent as the infinite, which, again by definition, cannot be limited by idiosyncratic (and culture-specific) human value judgments such as "good" or "evil." And, since he is all-knowing, god already knows exactly what mischief this dubious endowment is going to bring about, and who will fail to meet his expectations and who will not.

.

But, oops, since god is also all-powerful, does that mean there is nothing he can't do, including being evil and good at the same time? Can god make a square circle, a dry liquid, or the proverbial rock so heavy he can't lift it? God then is reduced to no more than a caricature of a human wish-fulfillment fantasy, happily churning out one logical impossibility after another. Truly, we cannot say anything about god at all, for to acknowledge the obvious evil that he has wrought in the guise of "free will" is to deny him claim to the titles of "all good", "all knowing" and "all powerful" all at once.

And so it goes. The point of this is the fundamental intellectual dishonesty of Christian theology. The reality of the innate human love of cruelty and selfishness completely voids the concept of a supreme being-creator who is both all-good and all-powerful. And sorry "God works in mysterious ways" just doesn't cut it. Unless of course you can supply a coherent argument to demonstrate that faith is superior to reason as a means of obtaining accurate information.


a14bc5 No.13303

>>1632

Watch Christians do amazing mental gymnastics to call this stuff moral and perfect.

http://8ch.net/christian/res/236159.html


a14bc5 No.13304

>>1632

Watch Christians do amazing mental gymnastics to call this stuff moral and perfect.

http://8ch.net/christian/res/236159.html


b2d51d No.13381

>>13303

They are like funny circus animals doing flips.


a14bc5 No.13385

File: 1451688280210.jpg (166.83 KB, 566x848, 283:424, small-dog-761121.jpg)

>>13381

very angry funny circus animals doing flips.




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